Why is the UK police better armed than the UK ARMY

>>34066364
Maybe it is personal preference?

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>the L85 is shit

t. Someone who can't slot a cunt from 400 metres with one

G36C is designed for an entirely different role, and although the price per unit is more, the Armed Police budget to equip one man is greater than the budget to equip one british soldier simply because of the size of the amount of Armed police compared to soldiers, not to mention each section has a uber fuckbig expensive counter IED ECM, but I'm sure you knew that as this post is bait.

>>34066364
This is the third fucking thread. Did you not get answer in the first two?

>>34066364
A lot of our coppers have the HK416 now too

>>34066364
well the way British immigration laws has been there probably more terrorists in london than anywhere the army deploys to.

>>34066364
the po po also got a side arm and eco red dot which the soilders don't got lol

>>34066412
>polymer gun shoots a smaller caliber and weighs more than the steel and wood gun it was designed to replace

>>34066364
Because their police didn't have a rifle designed just for them that they're still forced to use out of a sense of national pride and because they need to get a ROI on them.

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>>34066504

>>34066691

>and weighs more than the steel and wood gun it was designed to replace

Except it doesn't, no matter how many times you try to say it does, it doesn't make it true.

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>>34066364
BTP officers are now patrolling trains with suppressed weapons

>>34067404
Makes sense when you need to fire in confined spaces, I am surprised more police do not use them especially since range is never an issue.

>>34066691
Technically, and if we're talking about the Sten, you're - wrong. By 380 grams.

>>34066364
That orange bitch is kinda cute she can sit on my face while she plays with me spud any day

>>34067874
>while she plays with me spud any day
You only have one?

>>34067558
This. Sounds like quiet a good idea.

>>34066405
Lol. I love how people that have never worked in large organizations think soldiers and cops get personal preference for stuff like rifles.

>>34066364
Police:
>G36
>Glock
>Good posture
>Smart uniform

Soldier:
>L85
>No sidearm
>Hunched over
>Uniform looks like a soup sandwich

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>>34067404
>That qt on the far right enjoying opr8n

>>34067404
P O L I C E
S T A T E

But really, why is this reaction so big?

>>34067985
>Policeman
>Soldier (gender neutral)

Sure makes the popcorn pop.

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>>34066691
Hmm, what's a bigger number, 3.82 or 4.34? Because the first is the number of kilograms an L85A2 weighs, and the second is how many kilograms an L1A1 weighs.

>>34066364
>Women in combat roles
Sigh these fucking Europeans never learn

>>34066364

How did that nerd become an army man!? Is she trans? This is why engalnd is cuck

>>34068955
Do you know that she is in a combat role? Can you identify that TRF?

>>34069218

Bitch has a rifle standing guard in manachester during a terrorist act. Whether her primary role is combat arms or not, she is clearly in a combat role

>>34069419
Hey.

You wouldn't happen to know what the English equivalent to the Army's 92S would be, do you?

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>>34068899
man that rifle is ugly no matter which way you slice it

>>34069563
It looks like he smeared poo on his face.

>>34066445
None of the UK police forces use HK416s

>>34069419
>stagging on
>combat role

also
>Manchester

>>34067404
Me in the middle.

For showing the "flag" duties i rather have an mp5 or one of those shorty l85 boarding carbines.

>>34070662
Yes they do

>>34068443
Primarily because most of the UK terror attacks have been the sort that are hard to intervene with. Apart from the Westminster car attack and that other attack with knives a few years ago, everything else has been through explosives. Although it sounds a bit counter-intuitive, creating a bomb in the UK is easier than getting your hands on a firearm.

Being a Britfag and having a bunch of armed police at the train station only prevents maybe a knife attack or car attack. You normally won't see a bomb coming until it's already too late.

>>34067558

Impractical to holster a suppressed weapon (sidearm) for normal police duties, such as riding in a vehicle, climbing/running, or physically subduing a suspect.

>>34071114

It's to give potential losers the jitters. Are you gonna risk strapping the bomb to yourself if their are substantially more police around who might notice the nervous looking young muslim with a very large backpack.

You've completely wasted your life if you detonate without reaching your target.

>>34071130
>Strapped with bomb
>Preparing to take out a bunch of civvies
>Suddenly police outta nowhere
>OH SHI-
>BOOM
>3 Police Dead, X amount of civs dead/injured
>Daily Mail shits itself again

They aren't going to sulk and take their bomb home if they can't find enough people, they're going to do as much damage as they can without being captured. If that means they only kill a handful of people, rather than the dozens they imagined, they'll still do it.

>>34071144
Half the cops in London are Muslims, they don't want to be blowing up their friends.

>>34067404
Fucking A E S T H E T I C

>>34069572
Never-been-in-any-armed-forces-guy detected.

>>34071151

I don't know what drives people such as yourself to make retarded remarks like that when others are having somewhat of a productive discussion.

Should check out the police in Northern Ireland. Armored cars, armories that would make /k/ blush, more riot equipment than you can shake a bomb at.

>>34066364
I cant for the life of me figure out what TRF shes got

>>34071427
She's a chaplain from what i can tell by her beret and cap badge. TRF is something completely new, never seen one like it before. Looks like a camel, or a duck or something

>>34071454
> cap badge

Thats a bloody good eye youve got there mate. Crusades when?

>>34071151
What doesnt that make london a very shitty place to be now. Kebabs everywhere turning a blind eye?

>>34071010
Which ones?
All I ever see are LMT Defenders, Sig 516s and Sig MCXs

Haven't seen a single HK416 in the hands of any of the forces with major firearms units like BTP, the Met/SO19, Greater Manchester Police, West Mercia or any CTSFO

>>34067404
>that chick off the right who doesn't have a suppressed weapon but is just happy to b there anyway
Cute!

>>34071427
It's a London District formation badge. Can't see her TRF since that's be on the other shoulder

Beret's dark blue though so she's probably REME or Sigs or something.

>>34071477
Im wondering what the coloured patch on her left arm is right where the flash patch would go, looks like Royal Dragoon Guard colours but upside down. Fair play though, good spot m8

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>>34071477
>It's a London District formation badge.

It's not. You'd be able to notice the red from the hilt of the sword. The crown's shape would be distinct and easily noticeable. Whatever the shape of yellow is, it isn't the shape of a crown.

There's also a bit of brown under the yellow.

Must be something completely new with the army 2020 formations

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>>34071130
>You've completely wasted your life if you detonate without reaching your target.
You know these guys do that mostly because someone told them they'll fuck virgin for ever in paradiseif they die for kalif- I mean Allah, right?

>>34067928
Is that the evolution of the Sdkfz 234/2?

>>34069125
>hurr durr she has glasses so she must be in IT or something, not a soldier
This is why US Army is moslty composed of retards.
>inb4 mad britcuck
I'm not even british

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Old geriatric and a girl.
Oh brownteeth, you truly have fallen.

>>34066364
>female combat soldier
kek

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>>34071554
U wot m8

>>34071529
>Old geriatric
still more capable than 99% of women out there. He's also old and managed to nor be obese so he's probably capable of outlifting the remaining 1% too.

>>34071121
Yeah this is the consideration why police departments don't have suppressors.
You must be some kind of expert.

>>34068899
Tfw your service rifle weighs 5.1kg and it's plastic and 556

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>>34067933
>This. Sounds like quiet a good idea.

>>34071114
>Primarily because
>>34071130
>It's to give potential losers the jitters

You idiots. It's got nothing to do with what will work and everything to do with convincing the public that real threats exist and only the current government can protect them.

There is a FUCKING ELECTION!

The soldiers and armed police are going to stay on the streets until a week after the election, then something useful can be done. Though if you have soldiers, you may as well have them patrolling streets instead of sitting around barracks doing drills, at least you know their kit is being regularly checked.

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>>34071488
It definitely fucking is m8

Anyway, she's Royal Arse Hortillery

>>34067404
>>34067558
Keep in mind suppressors don't seem to have the same stigma in the UK as they do in the states, hell, it's considered rude not to put a suppressor on a hunting rifle.

>>34071621
Must be peak for her, in barracks shes probably a 7/10, in public shes a 3/10.

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>>34071621
Di-
Did you just clever-girl an anon with newspaper images?

>>34071529
>Old geriatric
pic related

>>34071483
Flash goes on the right arm (and sometimes on your helmet or bush hat if your in certain regts).

Formation badge (usually Brigade insignia) and the union flag goes on left.

>>34071562
>My feet hurt
>I'm cold
>This UCP makes me look retarded in this green field
>Those limeys told me my hat was crap
>I wish I were flying a drone

>>34071638
They're from the MoD's media ops people.

So in case anon here >>34071628 wants a wank they're not proud of:
http://www.defenceimagery.mod.uk/fotoweb/Grid.fwx?folderid=5000&columns=4&rows=7&search=((24052017B))

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>>34071664
>Major General BIG MCLARGEHUGE, General Officer Commanding HQ London District (right), meets military personnel deployed in support of Police on operation Temperer at the Palace of Westminster with Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick (centre right).

>>34071686
>how are you so tall?
>i don't know, it seems like every time i destroy a terrorist stronghold for queen and country i grow another two inches

>>34071462
I think most people just go there to look at the Queen, or try to end up in one of those fake taxis where you get your dick sucked and ride for free.

>>34071739
>I was 5'5 when I joined up

>>34069419
>days after lone wolf terror attack
>"combat"

You're one of the people who think Kuwait is a combat deployment too aren't you?

>>34067404
how exactly is this supposed to stop a suicide bomber?

>>34072699
Deterrence. The idea that they might be caught. Also may not always be a suicide bomb, like the Paris attacks where bunch of guys just shot into crowds with ak's.

>>34072728
>worried they might get caught

ye, im not sure you understand how suicide bombs work, m8.

>>34072796
not sure you do either m8

some iraqi staff sergeant apprehended an ISIS suicide bomber earlier this week

>>34071622
I like to shoot my.338 lapua with a muzzle break, during bench resters testing loads time.
Because fuck you.

>>34072807
an enemy combatant wearing a suicide belt in a warzone is hardly comparable to someone in a peace-time urban environment who is dressed as a civvy and carrying a concealed device probably with a dead-man's switch.

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>>34072836
Nope, the suicide bomber had a firing switch and was in civvie clothes

>>34072836
>Be Hakeem
>Want to blow up infidels for the glory of Islam
>Want to be as effective as possible
>Effectiveness would be drastically cut down if I'm stopped by an officer/soldier outside the monument/sports event/orphanage for blind puppies.

>>34072873
this

It's a sad fact that the officer\soldier stopping the suicide bomber will most likely lose a life, and maybe 2-3 other pedestrians around him. But it's better than not being stopped and going into a stadium, detonating, and killing 20+

>>34072728
>>34072728
>Paris attacks where bunch of guys just shot into crowds with ak's.
that didn't happen in a train station, or at the french parliament, or at a tourist attraction.
Putting armed police in train stations is a completely pointless gesture, and sends the wrong message if we're being honest.
What is the likely-hood they'd be able to prevent a suicide bomber? Pretty slim. The chances are so slim that it's no deterrent at all, certainly not for someone who is completely committed to the idea of blowing himself up.
And even if it were a deterrent, it only serves to deter any would be attack away from one target and onto another. i.e, he'll blow himself up in the mall, rather than the train station.

>>34072892
The authority losing their life in the process is what you hope doesn't happen, but there's still the possibility that shows of force at least may well cause the bomber to pause or second guess their actions due to the simple fact that the bomber is only going to have one chance (hurr hurrr). It's about forcing pressure on attackers as much as it is having extra eyes.

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>>34072910
Except security officers saved what was likely dozens of lives at the Stade De France during the same attacks anon.

>>34072873
>Be Hakeem
>Want to blow up infidels for the glory of Islam
>Spend months researching and building a bomb
>Plan to go boom in a train station
>Armed officers deployed in the train station
>"oh well, guess i better just dismantle this thing and give up on jihad "

>>34072966
>Be Hakeem
>See the city is on lockdown with heavily armed police and military around
>Oh man, I should probably wait before snackbaring
>Get caught in the meantime

Pressure works anon, why do you think there haven't been follow on attacks to Paris, Brussels or Manchester?

>34072966
>Be Hakeem
>Want to blow up infidels for the glory of Islam
>Spend months researching and building a bomb
>Plan to go boom in a train station
>Armed officers deployed in the train station
>catch subsonic 5.56mm round in the braincase right as I'm about to initiate snackbar n chill

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>>34071463
Hampshire Police

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>>34071301
Shit-eater-that-doesn't-have-a-molecule-of-critical-thinking detected.

Go back to your hole.

>>34071621
>Women in the Army

Kek

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>>34072966
>"bin that bomb"

>>34068899
It's a lot more than 3.82kg with a full magazine, LDS, LLM, bipod and any other shit they make you attach to it. The SLR didn't have attachments like that; maybe a scope if you were lucky.

It's absolutely unreal that the L85 weighs anything close to an SLR. I don't care if it's heavier or not - there shouldn't be 500g in it!

>>34066364
what are those brown boots the soldiers are wearing?

>>34073873
Altberg Defender combats

>>34073969
I find the Altbergs are better for cutting around barracks all shiny, and the YDS for everything else

>>34073969
>>34074098
for your royal marines I've seen you cheeky cunts walking around sleeves down sleeves rolled 3/4s the way sleeves rolled up 1/2 the way and all manner of boots.

What gives? Why you guys suchcheeky blokes

>>34074299
because we can and no dopey cunt can stop us

>>34074299
> (Backs away slowly in scaley)

Marines...sure...

>>34073422
Holy shit, they fell hard for the HK416 meme and got the memiest version of them all

>>34071686
>>34071739
>>34072027
Good work. I did a chuckle.

>>34071613
I'm very much aware of that. I was just bringing up how little an armed presence could achieve when trying to counteract a threat that is hard to detect and committed to giving their life to commit their act.

The campaigning has been fucking shit on both sides of this election. I'm only voting Labor because they've done a decent job on a local level. I prefer Corbyn to May but that's like preferring you're stabbed in the left testicle rather than the right one.

>>34074098
What the hell have you used the YDS for? They're not even remotely weatherproof.

>>34074990
If you give them a quick once over with ledergris or whatever the polish to keep them watertight is theyre pretty good for tabbing, feet dont get as sweaty and a lot more comfy I find. Yeah they have mesh that water could get in but if youre knee deep in a bog your Alts would get swamped just the same. Then again I have wide feet and short legs so I sweat like a priest in an orphanage on tabs.

>>34074645
yeah, almost as bad as the people who fell for the G36 and M4 meme.

>>34073422
Portsmouth here, can confirm.
Seen in Gunwharf, where they have an ARU on site at all times now.

>>34066364
one is a carbine the other is a rifle nignog
different purposes different firepower

>>34070662

They do. I've seen them being used.

>>34068443

It's just to reassure people.

>>34066364
Wasn't the G36 recently found to have problems with melting in high heat/with sustained fire? I mean that's not surprising: almost every original design has some sort of issue but since most aren't actually used in large scale combat it's pretty easy to bury them for political reasons (the flaws of the SA80 did not show up until the Gulf Wars, for example).

>>34076526
>>34076526
arent the frogs buying german guns too?

>>34076571
Yep, HK416s

>>34066364
>tfw no english operator gf with a crappy rifle

>>34076571
Not G36s though.