Middle East Thread "ISIS last stand EDITION"

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4540822/Rebels-went-Libya-MI5-blessing-amid-Abedi-probe.html

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/after-assurances-by-trump-bahrain-mounts-deadliest-raid-in-years-on-pro-opposition-shiite-neighborhood/2017/05/24/6995e954-4067-11e7-9851-b95c40075207_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.22a661398e17#comments

>"ISIS will be defeated any day now by str000nk assad"

It's like I'm living in 2014 again

>>34064611
Why am I supposed to care that israeli rounds are being used by Bahrain to BTFO some shia islamist rebels?

Try harder Ahmed

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Coalition investigation says airstrikes ignited ISIS explosives killing 2 ISIS snipers & 104 civilians on 17 March in second explosion.

>>34064687
If it was a Russian strike /k/ would be saying 2 ISIS snipers & 104 ISIS infiltrators

>lel

Senior Da'ish sharia judge captured by Iraq's armed forces in western Mosul.

>He's in good hands now.

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>>34064708

>>34064719

Is he died????

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>>34064742

>he will wish he was

>>34064516
Daily mail is usually shit but that was actually interesting

>>34064719
Hey look, it's Woody Harrelson.

A little Afghanistan olds.

Wednesday, taliban attacked in:
- Kandahar, resulting in 13 dead ANA soldiers and wounded. No numbers on tali losses.
- Kunduz city where they fired 5 rpgs at a shcool. 1 dead and five wounded, all students.

>>34064790
...Woody Harrelson, Peter Stormare, Jude Law, the cop from Allo Allo and Obi Wan Kenobi.

>>34064611
Drumpfh BTFO lol. #ImpeachDrumpf

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Al-Jazira begins a propaganda war on the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

>REDPILLING Arabz

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>>34064453
Holly shit that was quick, all we know is if assad secured a road between him and iraq, the war would end in half a year

I haven't been following this war for a few weeks, anything significant happened during that time? Did Kurds stop Raqqa offensive?

>>34065255
ISIS finally doing the right thing. I never understood why they kept fighting for that desert

Drone footage of airstrikes,missile strikes targeting fleeing ISIS convoy in southeast Homs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XQsAqqR00

>>34065810

What's that flash at 1:02/1:03?

>>34065908
>34065908
no idea tbqh ,looks like projectile but no impact

what's this i hear about a US drone getting shot down in Syria

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>>34064687
what if all of Dresden was just a secondary explosion?

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>>34066673

Who knows if its true ,but its drone after all ,its plausible

#US reconnaissance plane/drone over the Badia al Sham was destroyed/downed by allied Forces

>>34064779
Guy on the right must be the senior jerkoff instructor

Russian Army Chief met Israeli PM Netenyahu today to discuss continued cooperation on Syria

Warning to all "axis of resistance" fags, literally whenever this happens a major Iranian/Hezzie/SAA commander gets blown up by the Israeli's in Syria, all with Russian approval. Head to your bunkers and pray that the Jews miss this time.

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And another IS HMMVV captured, this time in East Homs, alongside a decoy tank.

>https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/867819402611249152

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>>34065410
The SDF is still closing in to Raqqa and Ba'ath Dam up the river after taking Tabqa and its dam. Their closest line to Raqqa is now only 2 km from the city.

The SAA just merged two salients in the East Homs desert. The SAA in East Aleppo is also making slower progress on the road to Tabqa.

The US-sponsored NFSA in the East Homs/South Deir ez-Zor is talking about taking Bukamal again; OIR airstrikes have occurred along the road linked to the town.

Shia-led pro-SAA militia attempted to cut through NFSA territory to capture the highway to At Tanf and the Syria-Iraq border. Promptly got bombed by OIR airstrikes.

>>34064779

>Quick! What day is today?

U.uh Synthol day?

>>34064719

Those eyes

They say "I've raped and killed more children than you could imagine!"

That sumbitch needs a DShK enema!

>>34065810

How nice of them to bunch themselves up like that.

>>34065908
You see it a few more places. Almost looks like someone using a laser-pointer on a screen to point out things in the movie.

>>34064719
>>34070556
He definitely looks a little upset.

>>34064516
Karma for the UK after what they did

>>34064706
And the mainstream media would only report it two months later in a very quiet manner.

/k/ only would say that since we don't like muslims

>>34065255
1. Split forces into two groups.
2. Southern group should cut off East Suweida by linking the parts and then remove FSA.
3. Northern group should take Arak Fields.
4. Southern group should refocus on Daraa since the situation there is bad. Maybe they can try cutting the FSA salient to Al-Faqi.
5. Northern Group should attempt to cut off ISIS in East Homs and link up with the Tiger forces near Masayanah. Dier can wait.

Benefits
1. More territory
2. Secures flanks from ISIS attacks.
3. Regains all the oil fields and phosphate mines, other resources.
4. Looks good on the map the internationa media shows.

>>34064516
>People still think IS is a formidable force in Libya

The only remnants of IS there are cells. They've not mustered anything more than street bombings since they lost Benghazi to the LNA.

The only jackasses still proudly flying the "seal of Muhammad" Black Standard in Libya is Al-Qeada in Maghreb, because for some reason they think that flying the same flag design as one of the most hated Islamist groups is a good idea. But hey, bombing the fuck out of them is fine too.

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Report on the reality of sport "shooting" in Syria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPh5dCp14r0

I'm surprised there hasn't been a general on the ISIS fighting in the phillipines as of yet, shits going down

>>34072623
Military talk about that conflict is is nothing to shout about. It's little more than an under-equipped military fighting equally under-equipped bootleg IS fighters.

>>34072401

I am interested but I don't speak the language. What is the essence of what he is saying? Also, are all the handguns and rifles air guns? Clearly there are no loud bangs and the distance can't be more than maybe 60 feet.

>>34072956
its 10m Olympic air rifle & air pistol

>>34069526
Well there are certain ground rules they know about. Crossing them is their own responsibility and places them outside of the Russian umbrella.

>>34071342
Not entirely correct, the IS cells in Libya are still very active in weapons smuggling between IS-Sahara and IS-Sinai.

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Certain twitter is posting great pics of Russian SF in eastern Homs. This is I assume in around eastern Qalmoun where the SAA took the entire area. The speed of the IS retreat surprised me as I thought they would attack either the SAA or FSA but as more info is released I see why. It reminds me of Al Bab with FSA now facing off with the SAA and IS out of the picture. Operation Lavender is in full swing although IS still firmly holds the silo area (big surprise, heh)

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>>34074287
https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/868123372391215105
source

>>34074304

What heck has he done with his cell phone - do they get wifi out there?

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>>34073373
>>34071342
>>34071342
IS in Sirte was destroyed by the forces of Misrata but many of their fighters escaped to Bani Walid and other places deeper in the desert like Hun and Waddan, they have hideouts in the empty desert scrubland between Bani Walid and Sirte, the heartland of the Wearshafa and Gadadfa tribes, who hate Misrata so they shelter IS.

There's also lots of IS infiltration from Tunisia on the coast road and sometimes in the mountains. The Tunisian countryside near the Libyan border has jihadist guerillas who are waging war against the Tunisian government and they cross over into Libya a lot. The countryside around Sabratha in Libya has a lot of little IS hideouts and camps.

And of course they have cells in Tripoli although they don't control any of the capital city.

http://www.tacticalshit.com/these-children-deserve-to-die-horrible-deaths-video/

Glock perfection!!!

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>>34065169

this would be like a 180 turn.
i dont get it. anyone has more informations to that (implying its true) ?

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>>34072623

>>127235934

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>>34074797

fuck me, didnt work

however, go to /pol/ and search for /pg/.
If there are no results, you will get infos on /sg/ too

>>34073373
>>34074368
I was being more specific that their relevance hinging on them being a "state actor" that is in control of cities and towns for an extended period of time. Of course it's expected of them to melt back into guerrilla and auxiliary functions, but they're only about as effective as any other foreign-sponsored jihadi group in the area at this point.

Oh yeah, brain fart. I forgotten that Sirte was their last stronghold, not Bengazi.

>>34074929
IS in Libya has begun raiding checkpoints and disrupting road traffic around Sirte again

They never stopped doing that around the Tunisian border

>>34074366
With cheap commercial drones usually use your phone to control them and see what the camera sees

>>34075452

That is interesting. I have not owned a drone yet. What kind of communication are we talking about - wifi, bluetooth, cellphone-to-cellphonedevice?

>>34072956
there talking about how they used to be the best and how they used to be first place in shooting on an olympic level and about how they are understaffed and need new trainers and shooters in general btw i am a kebab so yeah

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http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photos-russian-forces-help-syrian-army-ambush-isis-tanks-march-deir-ez-zor-begins
>when OP beats you to posting the pics

>>34074696
Qatar sponsors Jazeera
Qatar is out of the loop now with UAE-Saudis alliance

https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/868242797807243264

Ivan claims 3 SAA were killed by a Isreali drone strike in the last couple of hours. The area they were killed at is on a front line between SAA and Quneitra rebels that was the scene of a minor SAA offensive during the last hours. Basically pro SAA are accusing Israel of providing direct air support to rebels during minor clashes.

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Translation of IS infographic on their rocket launchers.

>>34064949
"Good Moaning..."

>>34064516
>>34064516
how hateful and racist :^)

>>34064719
Is that mike from RLM?

>>34076547
Hot damn
Now, are they also making their own rockets? Or were they just in need of additional launchers for ordinary RPGs?

>>34074696
AJ is Qatari, they probably backed a different horse.

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>>34078371
just launchers

>>34079064
this, they're re purposing rockets they don't have much of a use for into anti personnel and anti vehicle rockets.

info about the launchers surfaced about 2 months ago in Mosul. ISIL has been making home made rockets for a while now, but Im unsure if some of those rockets are used in the launchers. The home made rockets are most likely used for MLRS arty.

>>34071332

Being that they're arabs, they'll do just the opposite.

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>They Didn't Fly So Good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5e89DqaiJA

>>34076430
This guy >>34069526 knows his shit

can i get a tl;dr on the current happenings in libya please

>>34074983
At this rate the GNA should just hand Sirte to the LNA since they do a better job keeping the peace. IS has it way too easy across GNA territory.

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Things are heating up in Libya.

For one we have the continued Fezzan fighting. After the Brak al Shati massacre the pro-Heftar forces are on the move, having taken the major ("""""major"""" as in libyan terms, its not used anymore) airbase of Tamanhint two days ago and threatening the provincial capital of Sebha.,

Misrata is rumoured to think about sending further troops south-.

>>34080208
The interim Tripoli-based Government of National Accord is struggling to maintain control, as skirmishes by militia groups continue to occur in and around Tripoli, hampering attempts to push back against the opposing Tobruk-based Libyan National Army government.

The LNA is far successful in maintaining order, controlling about 60% of Libya, and is advancing against GNA forces, particularly around the central city of Sabha.

Al-Qaeda affiliate Shura Council of Mujahideen controls Derna, which is surrounded by land by the LNA. Current reports mentioned that the Egyptian Air Force has been bombing the fuck out of that place after militants that attacked Christians in Egypt trained there.

The Islamic State affiliate is reduced to asymmetrical tactics, but could be regrouping within GNA territory.

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Since ISIS is getting BTFO so hard and so fast, these next 3-4 months are probably the last chance anyone is going to get at harvesting a few prime, feral Sunni ragbeards for their own personal collection or hood ornament.

Then, Misrata is also causing havoc in Tripoli, where they attacked several militias of the GNA (the official unity government, which Misrata is part of. Hey its Libya it doesnt have to make much sense)

Clashes are still ongoing and its not really clear why and for what purpose.

Third we have Derna, an eastern islamist stronghold, which has been bombed by the egyptian airforce in response to the coptic attacks yesterday.
There are rumours that egyptian forces might enter Libya for a ground offensive on Derna, extremely likely together with the LNA (but it can also be just as embedded advisers and SF, like the US and the SDF in Syria)

>>34080238

What are the relations between the GNA and IS?

>>34080281
They have no relations. It's just that with the GNA busy dealing with infighting, IS can operate more freely within GNA turf.

>>34080281
ISIS was only successfull in Sirte and the GNA was the one who defeated them there after 9 months of battle.

>>34080318
>>34080333

So there is no 'tacit understanding' between them that would allow for free movement, weapon sales, undercover activity, that sort of thing? I am more than a little comparing with Turkey before the Russians got involved in the fight with IS.

>>34064684
Because if Salafists control Saudi Arabia and start a Caliphate, their Caliphate will control Mecca and Medina.

>>34076547
>>34078371
I saw those in the movie "The Procession of Light 2"

I was wondering how standardized they are because they all looked similar but different.I guess the answer is very standardized with different variants.

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I was going through some ISIS gopro videos. Found a premium meme, get it while it's fresh

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>>34079064
What is the source of this image?

>>34080249
That's because the GNA is a joke. While the UN and the rest of the world pretend that their conjured government has some relevance, they have zero presence and the only influence they have comes from the UN and independent militia forces that want to clad themselves in a bit of that delicious UN legitimacy.

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>>34080644
all praise is due to the internet archive

https://ia801501.us.archive.org/14/items/gowentgn_gmail_Lnah/lnah.mp4

>>34071332
Military officer Background or armchair General?
State your qualification!

>>34076547

>Tanks with weak armor like the Russian tanks
>Weak armor Russian tanks
>Weak armor
>Weak.

>>34081167
Ignoring the nationalist shitposting your post is likely to stir, you do realise the vast bulk of MBTs seen over there are T72's and earlier T-series models? Against any remotely modern (ie last 20 years or so) warhead they count as having weak armor, especially anything not plastered in ERA.

>>34081333
the only defense for any tank against "any remotely modern warhead" is not getting hit

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Rolling though another good day for the SAA and friends in operation lavender. Starting with large IS retreats in eastern Aleppo as their left flank disappeared. The line that was still close to Deir Hafner finally smashed by the SAA.

IS still doing what I thought they would do by continuing attacks along the Khanasir route as they focus more on Aqirbat in Hama. Ruaf is bombing this area now. Although this has caused high casualties it only served to slow the SAA down, not stop them.

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>>34081465
Step claiming SAA gains on US backed NFSA near Qalamoun as fighting is escalating there after IS left the area. This front should interesting.

>>34081523
I should add pro rebel claims of NFSA counter attack around Badia(not this front) where they claim to have destroyed some SAA armor and vehicles. I have yet to see proof of this but I'll check on it later.

Also a uptick in Afrin YPG vs TFSA fighting has been happening.

>>34080912
The link is broken, do you know the name of the video?

>>34081103
Anon that misses PDR

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>>34080236
>the current state of Libya

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>5 Star actually defended the overthrow of Gadaffi three years ago when the 2014 civil war started
>he probably still does
>mfw

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>>34081963
>he probably also defends the Iraq War

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>>34081975
>he thought SAA would essentially lose the war in 2014 after Jisr fell

>>34081963
This is a baseless accusation, in fact I was very negative on Libya when it happened. I thought Obama was making the same mistake that happened in Iraq but since it was the black libby hero the media completely support it. You misunderstand my views or think I am some random pro rebel person. I am more on the "let them kill each other side" than rooting for any side.

>>34081984
Ok , fine were you the "SAA IS RETAKING JISR ANYDAY NOW" guy because PD sure was.

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>>34081984
>Plague Doctor isn't here to see his predictions not come to pass

>>34081963
Gadaffi deserved it.

>>34082015
>>34082027
Apologies 5.

I've been here since around when Idlib city fell. I'm the anon who always laments the loss of PD, and I must've forgotten much of those times.

Where is Zvesda?

>>34082065
Cont*

I appreciate your dedication. You outlasted the other namefags. We just happen to disagree all the time.

>>34082059
Gadaffi deserved to be raped by a pack of hyenas and burnt to death like that Jordanian pilot, but his people definitely did not deserve it.

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>>34082086
>talking shit about the guy that turned lybia into one of the most prosperous african nations
granted, he had is faults, but he was a good leader

>>34065810
>The fucking cars hightailing it off in different directions after the first strike

>>34064516
>that terrorist group that sends thousands of sleeper agents in the immgrants wave?
>oh yeah lmao no we do not bomb them

*one bomb later*
>U BETTER WATCH OUT ISIS WE WILL DESTROY YOU!
*bomb couple tents in the middle of nowhere*
>"the operation payback was sucessfull!"
It was the same with frogs

>>34082065
Zvesda doesn't namefag He still lurks. Yes me and PD got in a pissing match when Idlib fell but otherwise got along. A lot of what we discussed was pre Russian involvement. Assad is golden but the war still has some twists ahead I believe.

>>34082095
>most prosperous
Lets calm down there champ, he just sold oil.
Libya wasn't exactly a hot vacation spot under Gaddafi, and its economy wasn't growing anything like Nigeria's.

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>>34082095

>>34082086
Educate yourself you nigger cum eating faggot. Gdaffi kept all the filth in check and said that if west would get rid of him all the filth would head to Europe. And now Gadaffi is dead and guess what's going on in Europe?
Stupid fucking faggot i hope your wife and daughters will be raped and killed by pack of peacful moderate muslims that were opressed by that evil nazi Gadaffi.

>>34082144
>supporting bunch of commies
Im glad turkroaches are bombing them.

>>34082133
which is pretty much everything you can do with a country that consists of sand, a bit of oil and a dozen ethnicities that will jump at each others throat the second you stop kicking their teeth in. Granted, most properous is a massive overstatement, but they were doing OK.

But most imporantly, his government could be reasoned with, preventing the country from becoming the staging area for refugees it is now.

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>premium meme

EasternAleppo Tribal Fighters & Aleppo Activist Claim fighting is happening inside Masakanah.

>>34082176
The country probably would have been fine if there was a follow on mission to rebuild, since there was a credible force on the ground to rebuild with. But we didn't and the militias just jumped down each other's throats.

>>34082191
Short attention span is one of the greatest problems with American foreign policy.

>get bored after the Civil War and let the KKK turn the South into a de facto tyranny
>get bored after WW1 and abandon the League of Nations and the Fourteen Points
>get bored after Operation Cyclone and let the Mujihadeen get rekt by the Taliban

>>34080559
>Salafists
>Controlling Saudi Arabia

Don't you mean Wahhabists?

The Salafists are the Muslim Brotherhood losers who, until the 2000s, were consistently rendered irrelevant after being assblasted by Arab nationalists.

>>34082191
or we could've just let the guy that has been running the country relatively successful for a few decades in charge.

>>34082243
Gaddafi wasn't going to be around forever. It's my biggest problem with everyone that argues MUH STRONGMAN, every single one of them came to power in a civil war/coup and the second they die there's gonna be a civil war/coup for power.
It's not a way to build a stable state.

>>34082253
So what? All we did in lybia was reduce the timescale of the cycle. There won't be a stable, democratic government, these countries are not capable to form one. So now we get hafter or someone else as next strongmen, and once he shits the bed there will be the next civil war and someone else will become king of the debris hill that remains.

If we let these strongmen in charge there will either be a civil war when they die, or they manage to pass on their position to someone more or less capable, like it happened in syria. And even if it comes to the next civil war, the country will have had a longer peace period to develope, probably resulting in a more advanced society more open to the values we have. Poverty has never been good for advancing secularism.

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>>34081984

without Hezbollah, russian (Air-)Support and shitloads of shia militias, things would look waaaay worse.
and yes, 2014 was morale low in the SAA/NDF - and we all know how important morale is, in this war.
The SAA was literaly collapsing in Idlib. Thats fact. I hate fanboys that are delusional af.

>>34082283
I mean honestly it comes in the form of massive economic and political restructuring.
Afghanistan isn't the best example, but if it manages to fight off the Taliban, it's gonna come out the other side as a genuine nation state with strong economic ties to China and a Western trained and educated bureaucracy.
It's a 50 year long process though, and we just never seem to have the stomach to see it through.

>>34082299
and without the rebels "finding" shitloads of weaponry and foreign recruits in the desert they probably wouldn't have been able to push the SAA/NDF back that hard to begin with. It's a proxy war, all sides get outside support. Otherwise this shitshow would've been over 4 years ago.

>>34082283
We also killed somebody who fucked with us.

You can't underestimate this, it's always a good idea.

The Arab must know fear.

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>>34082321

agree, without foreign support of manpower and weapons, this "insurgency" would have lasted just a couple of months.

>>34082315
afghanistan would be back in the hands of the taliban in less than half a decade without outside support. How to fix them up, no idea. Back in the early 70s they were doing OK i think, my gramps was there for his company supervising cooling tower construction. Always raged about the soviets destroying such a beautiful country, no idea to what extent that is true. Besides his stories i know little to nothing about the country, probably they'd have done OK had the superpowers stayed out.

Lybia and syria are different though, before the arab spring they had a functional government that actually controlled all of their territory without outside support. And that would most likely still/again be the case had the rebels not recieved massive support.

>>34082333
i don't think revenge for a single downed airliner three decades ago is worth the cost of hundreds of thousand sub saharan welfare leeches. I don't think gadaffi is a nice guy, but for europe he was beneficial.

>>34082391
Well in all fairness, the Taliban get more than their fair share of outside support. In all honesty of Pakistan would just fuck off it'd be okay.

Libya and Syria were far from stable though, Gaddafi came to power directly through a coup, and faced fairly widespread opposition which was unlikely to go away, and for Assad his father came to power through the same means and faced open revolt, and the country is fractured along ethnic lines.

Neither is particularly stable, and I'm highly skeptic that a dictator would do very much for solving the issues rather than just shoving them off later until another coup/civil war happens.

>>34082429
my point is that you can't do anything to solve these issues (well, unless you fully commit to it as a western country, but no ones going to do that), except long term economic improvement of the region. So the best option is to have some strongmen in power that hits the problem really hard every time it tries to manifest in open conflict. Eventually the countries will be economically better off at some point in the future, allowing a process of national reconciliation and formation of a more stable or even democratic government. Starting civil wars and then leaving the detritus that remains to rot only makes the situation worse.

That, of course, requires a functional, harsh and reasonable government. I'd argue that both gadaffi and assad provid(ed) that, while for example a mugabe doesn't.

>>34080247
>>34081984

I can never get enough of people parading jihadi dead meat.

>>34082404
You're assuming all of the niggers are coming from Libya.

You've got Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Eritrea, and Afghanistan also pouring out diversity. Libya is only like the third largest source of refugees.

But yeah, the US should be extremely vindictive. We can't be everywhere all the time, so we should do our best to make sure that foreign leaders who screw with us suffer personally and horribly, whenever such an opportunity arises.

Fear is a necessary tool.

>>34082523
the third largest source of diversity is still a big enough problem, and wouldn't be there hadn't we killed gadaffi and destroyed his government. He was by no means a threat

>>34082543
There's an intangible benefit when a foreign leader sees one of their contemporaries die with a bowie knife up their ass and starts to think

>maybe I shouldn't screw with the US

Also, it isn't guaranteed that the war would have ended quickly, even without NATO intervention.

Syria has produced way more refugees than Libya, because the US didn't bomb the shit out of the Syrian government and force an end to the major fighting.

A stalemate could have produced a lot more chaos than the internecine conflict you see in Libya.

>>34080236
Misrata still looking out for themselves above all others like usual.

>>34080249
Misrata has always been about themselves and fuck the rest of Libya. They're so self serving and their Militias are PTSD ridden nuts.

They never got over the fact that most of Libya allowed them to become a mini Stalingrad for a good 3 months.

>>34082480
Eh, agree to disagree I suppose.

You might possibly say that Khadaffi's Libya was keeping the refugees away from Europe in that it wasn't offering an industrial level of ship transport. Now that the navy cannon boats are gone, the whole shore is a transport him AND the militias are probably cashing in on it as much as the mafias, if they can even be considered two different entities.

>>34081963
>>34081975
>>34081984

Yeah, the guy is a crypto-Kike fanboy. Our very own Jihad Julian Roepcke.

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>>34082591
>>34082583
But that is what is confusing me, because the whole point of bringing the GNA into being and propping them up was to return out of political isolation and becoming the 'good guys' again. Besides, the GNA is controlled by them already.

So it makes no sense to now attack their militias and make themselfs even more hated in tripoli for no obvious benefit (its not like the are conquering the capital or completely taking over the government)

>>34083005
Not any of the anons you're replying to, but wasn't the preceding General National Congress a bit of a shitter in their own right?

>>34083024
Yes-
And it was connected to multiple islamist militias, so Misrata as its military muscle had come to be known as islamist-allied or even islamist themselfs. With the internationally supported GNA and as primary force against ISIS in Sirte they are yet again back to be the good guys

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Heavy shelling north of Raqqa , one Apache spotted in the air. SDF moving on Raqqa now from about 5 kms outside the city according to multiple sources.

Interesting enough similar pro SAA reports of SAA moving into Masknah. Should be a violent early morning.

>>34084355
More bombs droppin tonight. Step reporting large Ruaf strike in Idlib. Wording it as a "huge explosion" with "new bomb".

late night bump

>>34082577

You don't have any idea what you're talking about, you spastic retard.

>>34084355

Let's hope many ISIS scalps are harvested by the morning.

>>34085330
Molyneux.jpg

>>34080247
>probably the last chance

Not even close to being over.

Phase II kicks off when ISIS melts back into the population and goes back to an insurgency.

>>34085778
>implying anyone cares about an insurgency when brown people are the only people they can kill

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>>34080642

You asked for it....

>>34082042
>Plague Doctor isn't here

Haven't seen that name in a while.

What happened to him?

>>34081750
lnah, also works fine for me. Its from mosul a few weeks back

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>A pigeon has reportedly been caught by customs officials carrying illegal drugs in miniature backpack in Kuwait.
>A fabric pocket attached to the back of the bird was found to contain a total of 178 pills, reports say.
>Drug smugglers apparently used the animal to fly across the border from neighbouring Iraq.
>It was intercepted above a building near Kuwait’s customs department, according to Al Arabiya.
>It is thought the drugs were a form of ketamine, although this has yet to be verified, an Al-Rai journalist claimed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/pigeon-drugs-backpack-kuwait-customs-caught-miniature-a7757686.html

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>>34085881

>Haven't seen that name in a while.

--afaik-- he left around 2-3 years ago....--afaik-- there where too many anons, not beeing okay with his point of view...

but, as already said --AFAIK--

>pic unrelated

>>34069568

I get they want armor but the window is bulletproof already, why make it so the driver literally cant see anything if one round hits the spot like it did.

>>34084355
Man, imagine getting downed over ISIS territory. With any luck, you die on impact and not captured alive.

>>34069526
Unlike Russians, Jews don't miss.

>>34064779
the guy on the left. his shoulder has been swelled up with photoshop.

>>34082480
The problem with your premise is two fold. First it requires a dictator who works towards dismantling his own dictatorship, a dictator who does not use religion or ethnicity in staffing his power structures in order to avoid creating long term hatreds between groups in the country.

Second it require a dictator willing to reduce his power for economic improvement for the people.

Nether Qaddafi nor Assad were that type of dictator. While it is true that Qaddafi did create a relatively rich populace, he only did it because it didn't endanger his power since he could exercise absolute control over source of that wealth, the Libyan oil. Assad, who on the other hand lacked the oil money needed, kept his populace poorer that necessary in order to maintain absolute power over the economy through his own inner circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3yIUoU10w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuvkzFCu9eU
>When you had an agreement with Kurds about safe passage, but Kurds are not guys who control airspace.

Continuing with Libya:

In new fighting the GNA has taken over the main prison (yesterday), where still a lot of former gadaffi officials are being held.- And in more major news, they captured the Tripoli Airport today.

As I understand it, it is from the former GNC (the western government, which had dissolved into the unity government, but which still helds apparantly some places for themselfs), which had triggered the Misrata involvement, who were part of the GNC and are thus now part of the GNA, but prefer seperate GNC/Misrata control

Its all really confusing

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Meanwhile the second wave of egypt airstrikes have hit.

While officially its still against Derna, some guy on twitter geolocated them and said all of them hit the southern desert town of Hun, where the LNA is preparing a ground offensive.
(btw, since when are there freaking ads on /k/? Its the first time I see them here)

>>34088260
Hiro is gradually ruining the site, the last couple of months he's figured out how to get them past adblock and noscript. Either that or the site is broken somehow.

>>34087919
It's just a chance to get a sweet movie made out of your ordeal that shows you going rambo on ISIS, even if the reality is that you stayed in a hole and waited for evac for 3 hours, while any ISIS forces that got within 20km of your crash site were vaporised by predator drones.

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have an old webm of some iraqis almost getting fucked by shrapnel because this is kinda off topic. But you can't really have that type of discussion on /pol/ either so fuck off


>>34088210
I don't think the dictator needs to work towards dismantling his own government, he just needs to ensure reasonable economic developement. If his government finally breaks down, leaving a more advanced country, that may then possibly lead to the formation of a new, less regressive system. The ethnic/religious conflicts are there anyways, i'm convinced the only way to make that situation better is economic developement. The more you have to loose the less likely you are to stab your neighbour in the throat because he prays differently. In syria for example the rebellion was largely fueled by the poor population of the countryside, large population centers, while having a diverse mix of ethnicities and religious sects, mostly stayed under government control.

Even if its just for a new shiny golden palace or a bigger stick to potentially hit your neighbouring dictator with, all governments are interested in economic growth, and in the end that will benefit the populance. I don't see where syrias government didn't work towards this under the assads.

My argument basically boils down to larger timeframes between civil wars, allowing faster economic developement. With the arab spring lybia and syria made a big step backwards, it will take a decade or more to recover to the level they had already achieved. The only other way i see is occupation and then a marshal plan type procedure, but that's so expensive that no one will bother to try. Of course i'm pulling all of this out of my ass, but it sounds reasonable to me.

>>34088301
didn't work out that well for the jordanian guy

>>34088355
True, but the Jordanian AF/military in general doesn't have the same potential degree of OH FUCK NO YOU DON'T to bring down on an area in that situation, see black hawk down incident for the US threatening to go full annihilation on warlord ass in order to get their guys back at the end of that clusterfuck.

>>34088381
aren't they in the same coalition and thus shoud've recieved immediate US support? Anyways, it's not always possible to keep situations like that under control

>>34087682
They're probably paranoid enough that the glass will finally fail that they're willing to sacrifice visibility for any sense of security.

That peephole design did worked well enough for some of their VBIEDs though.

>>34080383
If there was any involvement between elements of the GNA and IS, it would be through some loosely-tied militia groups under the GNA umbrella that don't necessarily heed the GNA's word. But as far as the GNA leadership is concerned they're not really in good terms with IS.

>>34088347
kino as fuck

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>Russia: We will expand our strikes against ISIS to include Iraq if Baghdad asks us to do so.

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>>34088800

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from Yemen

https://youtu.be/ybYHXceiCjY

>>34088347
>File: vbied shrapnel.webm (1.69 MB, 853x480)
at least the humvee was useful this time

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>ISIS releases photos showing ongoing commerce in Raqqa in effort to show everything is normal

i-it's fine...

>>34065255
What are the colors?
Red = Assad clearly
Black = ISIS probably
Green = Al-Nusra?

>>34089432
rebels

>>34089370
>in effort to show everything is normal
???
IS is still in power. they have no air force nor real supply routes..

>>34066673
It wouldn't surprise me too much if it was one of our smaller uas platforms. If they say it was a grey eagle or something id have a harder time believing it.

The based Houthis destroyed a sudanese brigade in central Yemen.

Pro-Houthi sources say 83 killed and injured; the official sudanese government has admitted 21 of their troops killed
(they are the largest contingent among the arab coalition, but still had suffered only 8 KIA up until now)

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>you can't make this shit up

Syria: US-led Coalition dropped leaftets warning pro-Assad to stay beyong 55 km from Al-Tanf HQ.

>>34089379
That fucking wad of cash, holy shit.
Are they suffering from post-ww1 tier inflation?

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>>34090073
This reminds me of all the Shia in Syria like Afghans. The Saudis have their own Sunni version of the expendables I guess.

I am still trying to put the pieces together from last night but tl;dr IS still holds Masknah with the SAA on the outskirts and further south and SDF is still on the outskirts of Raqqa with continued fighting. Reports from last night suggested the Apaches strafed IS positions near a grain silo (it's always silos) and likewise Ruaf is very active near Masknah and other IS locations.

Picture is SAA in the Masknah train station. Recent buzz is combat on the perimeter here.

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>>34090142
I was getting to this. Pro rebel sources claim US backed NSA destroyed some armor and a handful of SAA east of Suweida in a artillery attack plus the leaflets warning SAA forces to come no closer to Al Tanf.

>>34090250
Why SAA can't take a hint to not advance? They will loose even more armor which they don't have much of.

Malhama tactical/HTS video of them in a raid of the air force intel HQ in Aleppo city. They claimed to have killed 5 SAA in this attack. Pro rebel source was quick to point out they started the raid using a Shmel rocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5zY1Q8BuvE

>>34090351
SAA is steamrolling FSA in eastern Sweida , repelled all counteroffensives ,FSA didnt manage to regain any ground in counter offensive ,just lost menpower and vehicles

Ka-52 striking IS in Homs and Hama CS

https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/868794691474608128

>>34090426
That's why I said "pro rebel sources claim", it is true the SAA has made some advances there. It's a dick waving contest at this point without further proof from either side.

>>34090185
yep. currently at 47.7%

>>34089370
>>34089379
>>34089386
>>34089394

kek, these fuckers are so desperate now that their little Caliphate LARP session is about to be roadkill.

>>34090477
That said I wouldn't doubt more SAA advances, just not toward Al Tanf. What they are claiming is the SAA was trying to push them out from around Al Seen airbase area and they repelled it.

Lastly heavy airstrikes and shelling on Masknah. SAA likely to storm it soon.

>>34090543
Do you know what sort of currency they are using?
If they print their own money I'll bet those notes will be worth quite a bit in a few decades.

>>34090578
i wouldn't mind having some of their passports/money as collectors items

>>34090578
I was referring to the Syrian pound, which iirc is still the primary currency of all rebel territory

>>34090578

You mean what currencies are they paying their people with, or what currencies the leaders use when they are hiding out in western countries?

>>34090447
>https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/868794691474608128
>this comfy counter at the bottom

>>34090655
I was thinking/hoping that they might have minted money within their own territories, but based on the anon above you I suppose they just use syrian and iraqi currency.

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>>34090679
p.sure they did some coins. My syria folder is huge and disorganized but I think this was one of them

>>34091285
>My syria folder is huge and disorganized but I think this was one of them
you wouldn't mind uploading it somewhere, some time?

>>34079852
What's going on during the aerial part thing at around 1:30?
This can't be fired and guided from a drone right?

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>Award

>>34091334
ATGM from helicopter, should be an Mi-24/28/35, Ka 52 or a gazelle

I don't know if the russians use armed drones, i don't think so. The usual armed drones we know from US/Israeli forces pack a punch just as nasty, but with laser/radar guided air to ground missiles. Can't really use ATGMs from a plane that's loitering at at 10k+ feet.

>>34091496
Russians only use drones for recon and their attack drone project is still in the works.

>>34090250
Why are the Americans still backing these NFSA fucks? So much money was wasted on them and they're still not very competent.

>>34091604
because they're the only option for them to seal the iraqi-syrian border up. or at least buy some time. It lends at least a shred of legitimacy to what they're currently doing

I don't get it either. At some point the PMU and other shia milita will pour into syria from iraq, that's only a question of time. Why bother trying to conquer empty desert?

>>34091604
>So much money was wasted on them
Not really. And if they annoy Assad and are a good-enough excuse to smoke up some shia militias or ISIS guys froim time to time, all is well.

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debkafile’s military sources can disclose that Putin has ordered the Russian commanders in Syria to impose an aerial and special forces ground siege on the northern town of Raqqa, the Islamic State’s de facto Syrian capital. This move was designed to match the American initiative on the strategic Syrian-Iraqi border, without a military clash.

Why Raqqa? Firstly, it is in the north, far from the American positions. Second, Russian intelligence had apparently discovered a deal between the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces – SDF – and ISIS which allowed the jihadists safe passage out of their stronghold towards the south.
The Russian siege on Raqqa was therefore a move against the US-backed SDF and the Kurds, without getting entangled in a direct showdown with the US forces in the South: Putin had installed a Russian-backed foothold in northern Syria to counter the US-led front in the south.
Immediately after the Putin-Erdogan phone call, a Russian military source in Moscow released this story: “Russian intelligence drones have set up a perimeter around the city ([Raqqa] to monitor possible terrorist escape routes, with combat aircraft and special forces units engaged in preventing militants’ escape.” The report went on to warn that any attempts by ISIS fighters to leave the town “will be squashed.”
Putin’s maneuver in Syria was designed to achieve three goals:

1. To counterbalance the America-led takeover of the Syrian-Iraqi border in the south, the Russians would assert control of the northern section of that same border.

2. To showcase the Russian army as the great champions fighting the Islamic State terrorists, compared with the American troops and their allies who had turned aside from this mission, although President Trump had made it the centerpiece of his nine-day trip.


3. To hit US allies, such as the Syrian Kurds in the north, without tangling with the Americans in combat.

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>>34091604

WW3 when lads?

>>34091795
RIGHT NOW

>>34091795
Keep asking every thread, every day.

You'll be right eventually.

>>34091285
I doubt they made many of those. Probably gonna be worth a fortune in a few years.

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>>34091755
>Why Raqqa? Firstly, it is in the north, far from the American positions.

rt news is a hell of a drug

>>34090679

Well, they did make some money. Part of the process of controlling the population, so it made sense. Hell, they captured Iraqs entire passport production facility fairly early on so printing shiny paper would not be particularly difficult. Since the IS are going down the drain it will be practically traitorhood for anyone to be caught with it and the value is zero now, so yeah any found money is collectable. But the forgery is probably going full tilt lots of places already. What are the IS going to do - complain?

>>34091755

I'm calling bull. For one thing, the 'safe corridor' thing has been a strategy used over and over. The dagger in the neck is that Putin is aware of the strategy but isn't bound by any deals, so he gets the opportunity to strike.

For another, what's to secure in the north?

Third, since when has Putin been hitting syrian kurd forces?

>>34091496
That is strange, aren't Konkurs Laser guided? Just strap a launch tube to a drone capable of lugging it, and rig the guidance laser to the camera unit.>>34091601

>>34091689

>I don't get it either. At some point the PMU and other shia milita will pour into syria from iraq, that's only a question of time. Why bother trying to conquer empty desert?

Isn't it obvious? They want to cut the Shiite axis.

The ONLY purpose to any American involvement in Syria or the Middle East is the showdown with Iran, because that's what the Zionist Jews with money in NY demand the US does for them.

>>34092539
You are right. It is directly to counter Iran however you left out the "Zionist Jew" allowing the IAF to target Hez in Syria anytime they feel like it. Putin. The US is not only one here serving Israeli interests. The S-400 operators must be bored.

Late breaking a few hours ago IS launched their usual night attack in Deir Ezzor city focusing on the panorama this time.

>>34082161
this has to be bait, that or yer just another ignorant fudd, cus if you did any real research you'd see theyre more libertarian/ancaps than ancoms...

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>>34088889

Russia-US military clashes when

>>34094572
light years ahead of the afghans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdggP7rw0mg

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>>34089370
>>34089379
>>34089386
>>34089394

Reminds me of someone...

>>34092459
Like the TOW the konkurs is wire guided, you're probably thinking of the beam riding Kornet. That doesn't matter to much though, SACLOS weapon systems in general don't work well from platforms with high lateral velocity. Dedicated ground to air missiles like the hellfire work by painting the target (or something close to it, and giving the rocket information about the deviation) with a lasergrid and then letting the rocket figure out how to get there by itself.

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Anons, i want a serious answer to my next question. No baiting, no trolling, no lying. Once the Syrian civil war is over regardless of the victor, what will Israel, America, and Saudi Arabia do with Iran? because let's be real, Israel and the house of Saud will never ever accept a nuclear Iran. Do you think an American invasion of Iran like the Iraq war is possible, or will we see a major Middle Eastern war in the near future between Iran against Israel and Saudi Arabia?
Also pic related is from Hilary Clinton's leaked emails.

>>34095315
These doesnt have Russia in the equation lol.

So put Russia into the equation, and thats it. Nothing is going to happen.

>>34095514
>Nothing is going to happen.
I don't think so. Nothing might happen now, but if Iran goes nuclear something will happen. If Iran is successful in going nuclear, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, and every regional power
in MENA will start going Nuclear. It will break the Israeli nuclear monopoly. Israel will no longer be able to invade any country it wants without having to fear retaliation. Israel will not allow that to happen, regardless of what Russia thinks.

>>34095611
It is inevitable. These nations, more like all nations, at some point of time will go nuclear. Pakis are fucking nuclear and Paki-Saudi ties are good.

So really, they will lose the nuclear monopoly. And better weapons will be made that replace and make nukes obsolete. Its the circle of life man, it wont stop.

What Israel can push for is - stability and peace in the region and the place is sitting on a lot of oil too. A peaceful middle east solves a lot of problems world wide.

>>34095514
Also, Iran is never going to trade it's nuclear weapons for a piece of paper that says ''I won't invade you''

>>34083938
That's a Tigr right? Air droppable and has an unmanned version?

>>34095668
I can tell you this much - Iran, much like Russia and the DPRK - despite what they say - wont attack any nation FIRST.

>>34095677
That is a Tigr with a 120 mm mortar mounted on it. It is air-droppable.

>>34095658
>What Israel can push for is - stability and peace in the region and the place is sitting on a lot of oil too. A peaceful middle east solves a lot of problems world wide.
You're delusional if you think Israel gives an atom of a fuck about Middle Eastern peace. The only thing they give a toss about is their Greater Israel project and the dominance of Israel.

>>34095514
Russia won't die for Iran. MAD means no nuclear war, not no conventional war.

>>34095684
>wont attack any nation FIRST.
Exactly. It doesn't matter if Iran doesn't attack first. Israel will be the one attacking if Iran develops Nuclear weapons.

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>>34095315
white mans gotta rule the world dawg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B22z7deh3bg

>>34095693
See that is the real problem. I know they dont want this at all, after all its ((them)).

>>34095697
Russia wont die for Iran but Russia wont let people keep on doing shit they are doing without Russia getting involved.

>>34095709
Well the game is gonna equalize in 10 or 20 years. The nations will have nukes, there is a reason why Saudis bought a THAAD. They already had the other shit - Patriot PAC3s, Black Hawks, Chinooks, Abrams M1A2SEPs (which /k/ still denies to this day)

>>34095713
Shit, truer words havent been spoken.This means war.

>>34095713
>white mans gotta rule the world dawg
The white mans ''rule of the world'' is over though. We no longer live in the 19th century where Britain, France, and Germany had more people than the entire Middle East and Europe controlled the majority of the world.Today? The people from MENA are the ones immigrating to the West and are slowly taking over. Talk about Karmic Justice.

>>34095697
>Russia won't die for Iran.
Look at what Putin did for Syria. Do you think he is going to sit down and watch America hang his most important Middle Eastern ally?

>>34095611
Iran is not going nuclear. By letting "moderate" Rouhani win the mullahs are showing to the west they want to honor the nuclear deal. Nukemongering is only Israeli propaganda from now on.

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>>34095731
>(which /k/ still denies to this day)
I absolutely laughed my ass off when /k/ went into vehement denial about Trump brokering the largest arms deal humanity HAD EVER SEEN with the Saudies. They refuse to believe that their messiah is nothing more than a Zionist and Saudi stooge.

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>>34095822
doesnt mean the great game wont go on being played tho . . .

>>34082974
Who killed who in this video?

>>34097125
wild guess would be the houthis > saudis/their allies

>>34064453
That's an ugly tank. Big silhouette, easy kill.

>>34097162
>tank

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>>34097162

>tank

>>34095822
These are the same people who don't realize that Spider is basically the American version of Baghdad Bob.

>>34095731
Honestly though, none of the state actors in this region can be assumed to be level headed enough to use nukes properly. Eventually some warhawk whackjob in any of these states will completely forget about M.A.D. and push to launch a nuke at any local enemy, triggering a localized nuclear war.

Larger nuclear powers will stay the fuck out of that shitshow, looking more rational in comparison and sparing the rest of the world, while the Mideast/South Asia gets a nice taste of nuclear annihilation and fallout as a reminder to everyone else on how fucked up the weapon is.

I'm all for leaving these fucks to fend for themselves and so they arm up by themselves. If M.A.D. works it's fine and dandy, but if they decide to lob nukes at each other it's their loss. As soon as the Saudis, Israel and Iran went the down the destructive ultraconservative/ultranationalist route they shouldn't be trusted at all.

Edit: Holy fuck, this new Captcha feature is fucking unusable.

>>34097543
new captcha?

>>34097561
The "Select all squares with vehicles/street signs" one.

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>>34097623
use legacy captcha

>>34097623
not very new

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/29/vladimir-putin-is-bigger-threat-than-isis-john-mccain-says

>>34097917
Literally who

>>34097917

McCain is such a fucking prostitute. I hope they feed him some polonium.

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>>34097917
>>34098841
I wonder who could be behind this post.

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>>34098841

Whats going on in the south desert of palmyra?
How the SAA are still threatening the FSA?
The FSA should fuck them hard since they have the god damn US SF with them + the border of jordan.

>>34080642
>sony

>>34099327
no ones interested in escalation, and the US has a very limited scope for direct actions against the SAA since they're still the UN recognized government. The only airstrikes that were carried out supposedly targeted shia militias, not the SAA.

I don't really know what the US is planning to do in the southern desert, their best bet seems to be to buy time, i doubt they can prevent the syrian government from linking up with iraq forever.

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T-34/85 in use in Libya.
Watermark is covering the only viable roadwheel so no idea if it uses T-34 or T-55 roadwheels.

First time I have seen WWII era armor used in Libya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aLQPNPlK5M

this feels relevant to post here

>>34100019
we're on /k/ if you hadn't noticed

>>34100074

it's all about Ghaddafi, Libya, Syria, the Assads and the long history of double narratives that culminated in the modern clusterfuck

>>34100087
We're all pretty well aware that the media and political establishment are feeding the public shit to justify their dicking around in random foreign countries. This isn't new
I'm just here to see Muslims get blown up

>>34100109

yeah but it's a nice tl;dr and it also includes the development of yuppie socialism, the corporate-ownership of governments and the rest of the insanity in the west

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http://syriadirect.org/news/us-backs-off-battling-pro-assad-forces-in-east-syrian-desert/

>>34100250
why are ryssäs always so butthurt? well, a bit atleast

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>>34100264

>>34100339
lol

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more cargo for IS

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>>34100829
potatoes!

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>>34100844
>>34100829
>saa is giving potatoes to the dudes in deir and crates of 7.62 to IS

get your shit together assad fags

>>34097917

Shit just got really real. I vote we form the Bill Kristol brigade filled with chicken-hawk (((neo cons))) and send them Al Tanf to engage the rooskies. They are big tough talking MoFos when they got no skin in the game. Lets see how they act when its their ass on the line.
I bet they would cry like little bitches.

>>34082124
>>oh yeah lmao no we do not bomb them

Are you retarded

>>34102454
It's high time other coalition forces start dropping more bombs.

>>34097634
Now that's cool. Who's running that?

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Russian Officers are dying in Syria again. Official media keep silent about losses of the Russian army in the Middle East. However, it has transpired that two more Russian military “advisers” were killed in action on the frontline on May 3. Russian regional newspapers are more overt. The following is their description of the combat action:

https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-army-s-losses-russian-officers-dying-syria/

>>34095713
>white mans gotta rule the world

Jews aren't white anon

>>34090073
While I think the real number is somewhere between the two claims, although the Sudanese government has not claimed 21, but only claimed five
While Sudanese soldiers are not the most tactically competent, they're no strangers to fighting, over 50 years of civil war fighting an insurgency

>>34095822

>their messiah is nothing more than a Zionist and Saudi stooge

Obongo is no longer in office anon.

>>34099257

< THIS >

McShitStain is a NWO puppet.

Ever wonder why he's the "go to" GOPer when CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, etc. need a republican talking head to "balance" their reporting?

Yeah. McShitStain is an embarrassment... and not just to republicans, but to every American.

>>34103307
>informnapalm
Nice try, hohol

I haven't seen many tanks going up dot webm's lately. Are people running out of ATGMs?

>>34103792
Ashkenazis are.

>>34104107
>What is continuity

>>34102808
You know how many they're dropping now?

>>34103307
they have a lot troops on frontline atm ,2 died in May I think

>>34075663
I have one that uses wifi to connect. Limited range though