AR thread /arg/ tripfag containment

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>>34058568
>night /k/ edition
okie doke

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>>34058568
Night time is the right time.

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>>34058568
>night /k/

It's not even midnight

>>34058582
What googles are these?

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The absolute best

Fight me

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>>34058568
nice

>>34058568
>/arg/ finally into NODS
>Tier 1 moves to thermal

>>34058585
Why did you do the thing you did?

>>34058603
It's ok

>>34058612
$1500 thermals come out this summer
The flood will come then

>>34058568
Was that the $3k tube? That's impressive.

>>34058612
and you have neither so it works out

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>>34058657
yeah the L3. SNR is 29.1

>>34058681
how did you get such good pictures?

>>34058681
No you gotta go innawoods with it. I'm curious how far usable vision range is.

Trade got declined but I'll still get at least 75 out of the mags. Dunno if he'll budge on price tho

>>34058619
No one even compares desu. Seasoned fries are god tier

>>34058676
>NODs
Useful for anything other than bullying sandniggers. You're retardedly delusional. I shine my light in your face for half a second, then take my time to shoot each one of your tiny balls off while you fumble to look under your NODs to get a sight picture.

>>34058732
>how far usable vision range is
quite
I have a 3x magnifier for mine and it's very surprising

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soon

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Why is everybody in these threads a weirdo without exception?

Fuckin weirdos.

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>>34058730
just used my phone my dude

>>34058732
i was going to go tonight but its pissing down

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STANDING BY

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>>34058748
>weirdo
Excuse me?

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>>34058738
thanks for the b8

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Posted for TS

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>>34058738
>what is autogating

>>34058745
slav/10

>>34058738
>Useful for anything other than bullying sandniggers.
Very useful for killing hogs.

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>>34058748
jerkyhut doesn't provide a tracking list, wtf buurt

>>34058798
bought some ir patches

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>>34058745
Shoot it

>>34058738
don't forget to teleport behind him first sperg

>>34058748
>MechWarrior 3
Based

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>>34058811
what kind

>>34058568
Non AR related question, but seems aproprate for the peole in this thread. What NVG would be good for someone blind in their left eye?

>>34058833
PVS-14 but like on your right eye instead

>>34058781
>posts a fictional mission from a fictional still from a fictional mission bullying sandniggers
You know when you talk shit and argue, you not supposed to prove the other guy right.

>>34058827
OD WA flag and ir NO PCN

>>34058855
>PCN GET OUT REE

>>34058798
>autogating
>autogaring vs 600 lumen light
See? NOD fags are delusional. It's okay to use them, but know your limitations.
>>34058807
Hogs don't shoot back. I guess also useful for getting boyfriends on the internet if we're going down the non-combat uses route.

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>>34058855
ir wa flag*

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>>34058584
Nice

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>>34058844
the picture is for the thread, not some random aspie

>>34058865
That rail looks like shit
>>34058864
>Hogs don't shoot back.
Figure that out all by yourself?

>>34058593
Halp

>>34058864
>anon gets gored by a hog the next night cause he couldn't see

>>34058874
>That rail looks like shit
now i know it must be good seeing how you own keymod

>>34058864
they damn near turn off if the light is bright enough

>>34058840
Thanks.

Guys I want a steak but don't have a grill, how do without setting off every fire alarm on a city block

>>34058872
Dude. You got btfo. Just admit NODs are for larping and bullying desert people. They are cool toys, but in full scale warfare would only be useful for navigation. You talked shit first >>34058676

>>34058913
>2017
>samefagging

>>34058912
go to a steak house

>>34058912
Can of hairspray, spraypaint, etc and a lighter. Get a good sear going

>>34058927
Frig that I want to do it myself

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>>34058568

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>>34058811
idk duuuuuude I got mine from mahogany and blue ox. Jerky Hut should also, they ship USPS Priority as of the last time I ordered, which has trackine.

Tomorrow.

Tomorrow I'm going to dine on dried bovine meat.

>>34058748
Touch me peepee

>>34058897
Read >>34058738
Either way it'll be useless and easily defeated by a cheap focused white light. I think they are cool, but Suchka talked bull shit so I had to set him straight.

>>34058912
Salt it let it sit for half an hour at room temp. Sear it then bake to desired temp

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>>34058941
Not an accurate representation unless you locked your camera's settings, which the last photograph betrays that you did not.

Sorry.

>>34058952
You got it. Address?

>>34058926
wdhmbt

>>34058913
yep you got me, your limited knowledge of the application of night vision means it's useless

>>34058912
ask /ck/

>>34058855
>>34058865
>gets shot by muddy girl 243 in the dark

>>34058877
If you need a $3k piece of equipment that is the culmination of thousands of years of civilization to not get mauled by a hog, you deserved it.

>>34058971
I'll cum to you

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>>34058946
maybe it will be here tomorrow. it shipped from ca, i cant imagine it takes very long to get here.

>>34058977
BUT how did she see me? check and mate

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>>34058864
>Hogs don't shoot back.
So what?

>>34058978
>If you need a $600 piece of equipment that is the culmination of thousands of years of civilization to not get robbed by a nigger, you deserved it.
>If you need a $6000 piece of equipment that is the culmination of thousands of years of civilization to travel over 12mph, you deserved it.
>If you need a $60000 piece of equipment that is the culmination of thousands of years of civilization to not die of weather, you deserved it.

>>34058975
>ask /ck/
wtf do they know about ars tho

>>34058975
So please enlighten me with your superior knowledge on the application of night vision. So far you've offered no counter argument but insults since you got btfo so hard.

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>>34058954
btfo again guess ill just sell them

like new PVS-14 $3050.49 shipped and insured

no lowballers i know what i have

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>>34059029
u take scuba gear?

>>34059003
So that NODs are for larping. What? Nothing. Enjoy them.
>>34059004
All those false equivalencies.
Using your brain for all of those situations is 1000x better than needing NVGs.

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>>34059040
O fuck it's retarded

>>34059039

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>>34058971
go fuck yourself

>>34059001
Cheapo NV
Hears the power scooter
Smells the sewage you reek of

>>34059029
A piece of equipment is only as good as the operator. But yes NODs require high signature lasers to use, and you'd get btfo so hard if you face an equal enemy. 80 IQ sandniggers with cavemen tech are not worthy opponents.

Where did I say you should sell your NODs? Only pointing out how vulnerable you are even in the American civilian world with access to cheap powerful illumination.

I'll take it for $2.50

>>34059054
Nice argument m8.

Thermals > NODs. NODs okay for navigation.

>>34059087
anyone is vulnerable to illumination regardless of what gear if any they have, but wearing nods doesnt make you more vulnerable to the aforementioned. like i said any autogating tube isnt going to blind you

i dont get what scenario you're imagining here, some dude knocks your door down with nods on and you have your light on already?

>>34059116
>u-u have no argument
>"nods are washed out by my gas station light and are literally useless guys"

>>34059148
why are you responding to a 17 year old

Who here is the one with that armalite 25 rounder?

>>34059173
He's not 17, he is a master baiter, and now has more (you)s than he knows what to do with.

>>34059173
not much else going on rn

>>34059187
no one

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>>34059200
Can always start garandposting

>>34058749
what front sight is that?

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>>34059040
>So that NODs are for larping.
I'm not being defensive about them, but have you ever hunted with NVs at night? It's like cheating. I've walked up within 20 feet of deer out in the middle of the field, I've walked within 10 feet of a bobcat. Animals feel invincible at night and they're really effective. Can't say I've walked up on Coyotes though

>>34059196
i think you're right tBH

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for ts

>>34059148
You never know when you come knocking on my door at 3am wanting to shoot my steel and violate my NAP, and I need to throw flashbangs at you to buy time to reach my minuteman launch console in my basement.

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>>34059218
post enfields

>>34059224
kac 99051

>>34059200
Lame dude if I had NODs I'd walk around with the lights off and peep neighbors windows for boobies

>>34058913
Yup, in a real shooting war we're all just not gonna wear NODs just in case someone shines a light at us. it's okay that we can't see anything, even our own sights, when there's cloudcover. just so long as we aren't wearing NODs we can't lose.

>>34059238
Nice highschooler wannabe wallet

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>>34059243
>bolt actions
Only two I really want are a 1903 sniper and an SRS teabeesyate

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TS

>>34059208
I though someone has one or something like it?

Like someone gutted a mag or something and put internals in it that holds 25 rounds? It looks like a longer colt 20 rounder, super sexy.

>>34059261
Needs a length of chain from Home Depot attached

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>>34058584

>Night time is the right time.

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in for night k but I don't even own this rifle anymore, need some new nods of the DD's

>>34058876
Looks kinda like the AN/PVS-9 that I've been flying with. Flying with NVGs is kind of a pain in the ass.

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>>34059304

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Anyone have a pic related? It just seems so choice I can't stop thinking about it.

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>>34059218
Better idea than most of this shit thread

>>34059348
Yeah, like that. What magazine is that?

>>34059357
Yes everyone does buy it

>>34059371
Nam era standard SCAR mag.
Shipped with the rifle. Only one though. Super rare

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for hoosier

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>>34059401
Based

>>34059443
fuck off faggot no one wants you here.

>>34059443
Yeah, that one. What is she?

>>34059399
Time traveling snake eaters?

>>34059401
Do your shoes look new cause you only ever need 4-5 steps to get anywhere?

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>>34058971
Holy shit, a P88. I haven't seen one other than my dad's in person or even on /k/

>>34059443
Nice, more of this pls

poor fag here I got $200 for an upper without a charging handle or bcg what should I get and dont tell me to save money because I cant.

>>34059499
Buy Orangcats

>>34059499
>dont tell me to save money because I cant
don't buy an AR

>>34059499
Cryptic

>>34059499
Setting that money on fire would be a better use of $200 than any shit upper it would get you

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>>34059499
Cryptic Mystic black.

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>>34059480
lmao i just bought em yesterday

>>34059513
>Cryptic
I said an upper not a bcg

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>>34059525
Confirmative

>>34059525
Wait I just noticed he wants to buy an upper. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks he wrote it like shit tho

>>34059526
Shiiiiiiiiet. I haven't bought shoes in like a year and some. Brahmas are good shoes

>>34059525
Read my post again retard. I said an upper not a fucking BCG. God you tripfags are legit retards.

>>34059526
>buys shoes
>goes home and sits

>>34059547
Nice when were you in the sandbox

>>34059542
You write like shit dawg. Do this >>34059508 but also buy my BCG/CH

>>34059542
>you tripfags are legit retards
>I can't save more than $200

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ships to fluffy nigger tomorrow

>>34059539
>Brahmas
Wat

Oboz or Salomon
Mammut, asolo, and lowa are also acceptable

>>34059479
he chopped two 20 rounders up and jb welded them together
every round nose dives like a motherfucker but it looks cool

>>34059566
Realtively cheap lowcut boots with steel toe. They hold up pretty damn well desu. Only like 25 a pair too

>>34059565
r u srss? is he paying you?

>>34059565
Did you shot it with a bb gun

>>34059564
Its kinda hard when you only make minimum wage and can barely make enough to live in a shitty apartment and eat ramen noodles 5 times a week.

>>34059581
>Steeltoe
Gross

$25 a pair? You sure you don't mean socks? I mostly buy smartwool or icebreaker

>>34059588
lol no
>>34059594
shot gun, twice

blew it up twice as well. still works

>>34059565
>>34059588
he should be paying fluffy to take that shit

>>34059602
I love my steeltoes, gotten so used to them over the past few years now

>>34059599
then don't get an AR right now

>>34059599
Nigger you got bigger worries than what upper to buy

How can you feed a gun if you cant feed yourself, you need to be a responsible parent. Think of that gun's quality of life

>>34059615
I was going to start reloading I got some old reloading equipment from a family member.

>>34059603
not even going to pee on it or spray paint it pink?

too nice

>>34059599
I'll sell you a whole upper for the lowlow m8

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>>34059612
What do I do with the lower mom got me for Christmas then? I dont like that it sits without an upper on it.

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>>34059565
Still covered by Vortex's warranty.

Fluffy just got a brand new optic. Congrats kiddo, it's about time!

>>34059196
I prefer "discussion initiator."

Don't feel like responding to each of you individually, so here's the general gist.
>NODs good for navigation
>NODs get BTFO by thermal easily
>the reason they are popular with SF is because sandniggers can't even into weapon mounted lights or decent tactics
>PEQs would get btfo so hard in a real war, or if insurgents weren't too retarded to use cheap NV cameras to spot foes.
Anyway, thermal or hybrid devices are the future.

>>34059670
>NODs get BTFO by thermal easily
>oh no glass exists and I can't see through it with thermal

>>34059666
>deble trumps

uh no nigger, i already asked them after i did this. dumb faggot

>>34058650
which ones?

>>34059697
Take a picture of your glass armor suit senpai.

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>>34059697
mmm yeah but laser beams

>>34059664
Srsly buy orangecat's

>>34059719
m8 you're gonna make me look like I'm samefaggin lmao

>>34059666
Nice rail Lizerd.

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>>34059670
What about >>34059225 ?

>>34059714
w-what
no u

>>34059664
get better at saving
you can do it

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>>34059565
>>34059682
>>34059703
Very nice of you to give him a free optic. He really could use it.
http://www.vortexoptics.com/content/vip_warranty
>We will repair or replace your Vortex product in the event it becomes damaged or defective—at no charge to you. If we cannot repair your product, we will replace it with a product in perfect working order of equal or better physical condition.
>You see, it doesn't matter how it happened, whose fault it was, or where you purchased it.
>it doesn't matter how it happened
>Unlimited Lifetime Warranty
>Fully transferable
>No warranty card to fill out
>No receipt needed to hang on to

So very nice.

>>34059670
>a bunch of shit that shows you've never talked to someone who has hunted bad guys under NODs.

you realize if you need to you can shoot with your fucking day optic right?

as for WMLs good luck making that work when it's dark out, you can't see shit, and I'm somewhere out there in the dark watching with NODs. you can swing your fucking flashlight around all you want, I can still see and engage you from further away. only time that issue actually matters is indoors, in which case if you're constantly shining your light at noises and all over the place, i can still put a frag in your room before you ever see me.

>have a block ii fsp upper
>have an unused MRO
Why am I so demotivated to just put these things up on barfcom. I could buy a new optic for my gun as soon as they sell, but I'm completely apathetic about it

>>34059731
I am thou, thou art I
PERSONA

>>34059748
you have to see fluffy's gun damn near every day

relish that it'll be slightly less shit

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>>34059747
I will try. I have been looking for a new job maybe I can make enough and get my dream bcm upper

>>34059666
>fluffy gets a brand new optic
>Brand New
>NEW

I don't think you know what that word means

>>34059817
Once he returns it to vortex its brand new

>>34059817
After a trip to Wisconsin by post it will be

>>34059808
that would be nice

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all these retards over a cuck vortex optic

>>34059817
Vortex doesn't make the SPARC anymore, so when he RMAs it they will send him a brand new SPARC II.

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>>34059851
take an insulin shot you retarded fuck. THE GOD DAMN BOX SAYS SPARC II ON IT.

holy shit

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>>34059824
You think that they are gonna honor that hunk of shit that was shot multiple times?

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>>34059850
>Delaware Machinery hotness

I see you

>>34059745
What about it? Was talking about non-hunting applications. You can do all that with thermal too. If you're sneaking up on prey, you're using NODs for navigation, which is one of the necessary uses for NVGs I listed.

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>>34059883
join the incest mustard race my friend

>>34059879
looks like not until the optic doesnt turn on.

>>34059879
if it still works then they might even claim its cosmetic damage

fluffer would have to kill it in a way that's not obviously on purpose

What $1500 thermal optic is coming out this summer?

>>34059851
Burt PLZ go back and look at the pic again >>34059565 after that then go here

http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/tc/how-diabetes-causes-blindness-topic-overview#1

>>34059898
Flir q14b

>>34059898
Flir q14

>>34059873
>>34059902
Ok.

Read the warranty page again. Unless Vortex has some sort of matter recombobulator, they cannot repair the damage to that unit. They will therefore provide a new one in exchange.

>>34059879
Yes.

>>34059931
no one cares. stop sperging out dude.

>>34059755
>bad guys
You mean poor sand people right? They have no NVGs or even WMLs. Not a fair fight.
>navigating with a white light at night
Even the most retarded sandnig wouldn't do this. They are pretty retarded.
If your entire argument is based on strawmanning that your enemies are retarded, you have no argument.

>>34059879
I dont see the problem. It got shot up in a BCM GUNFIGHT™ and needs repair?

>>34059958
>They have no NVGs
but they do my guy. It might only be gen 1 but they have them.

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Why are you guys so upset that a disadvantaged, handicapped sperg gets a free optic from another similar sperg?

It's like you're invested in Fluffy not getting an optic no matter what. Why the hate?

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>>34059148
NV/thermal fusion is the future. This device will convert a PVS-14.

https://tnvc.com/shop/anpas-29a-coti/

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>>34059931
explain to me why a company would be willing to repair/ replace/ refund/ reimburse/ what ever word you want to use in the situation, a product that was intentionally damaged? apply that line of thinking to ANYTHING and it wouldn't make sense. it its very obvious that this optic was intentionally fucked up

>>34059958
>pic related

>>34059959
>pic related

>>34059986
its not that we care that fluffy gets an optic finally its that you are a shit head that think he gets a free new optic and are trying to argue something that makes no sense.

>>34059976
They can also buy NV filters for cameras. Even if they do have IR capability. Their tactics and training are still inferior.

How about this? All things being equal. Take two cloned teams of Delta. Have one use current NVG setup and PEQ, the other team with mixed NV for navigation and Thermal for targetting. If you pit them against each other, I think the latter has a huge advantage.

>>34060014
>responding to this many people at once
It's like you don't want people to read your drivel, let alone take it seriously at all.

>>34060046
i never said it was a fair fight.....i simply said that they have NVGs

>>34060046
Why not just use both at the same time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmut2Xd_dyo

>>34059958
If you are navigating at night unaided and I'm under NODs, how the fuck are you going to find me to shine your stupid light at me anyways?

As for indoors same question stands. if you're just pointing fucking lights all over the place I know where you are. If your light is off then you can't see shit and I'll just fill you in from the darkness

>>34060058
put your trip back on burt

http://www.primaryarms.com/UA556MM41617M-15MLOK
Worth or naw?

>>34060014
Brownells, SilencerCo and Burris do the same thing. Absolutely no questions asked, it doesn't matter if you smash a product with a hammer, they will take it back and repair it. A much larger number of companies get close to that level of warranty service but not quite Vortex-tier, such as Steiner, Dead Air, Benchmade, Leupold, Gerber, Adams Arms and Hipoint to name a few.

Why would they do this? Because it earns customers and shows the company's faith in the quality of their products.

Stop being silly, and stop putting your faith in garbage companies who treat you, the customer, like an expendable turd instead of a valued ally.

>>34060090
Not me. Stop hatine.

>>34059883
>tfw almost got you to leave that lower at my house

When we gonna go blastin with the Hmmve?

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>>34060046
this kind of stupidity is exactly why we know you haven't used any of this shit for real.

with dual tube NODs there is no good way to use any of the thermal riflesights on the market

your attempts to pretend NODs and thermal are somehow mutually exclusive are retarded. How about I have all 3?

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NOD-SHILLING TRIP FAGS BTFO!!!!!
>2017
>not going full Predator
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6N4wf_5FySc

Keep your $3k PVS-14 and $1k Cuck PEQ. You better bring your space blanket or glass suit with you innawoods when this $1500 FLIR drops.
AYYYYY LMAO. Has anyone ever seen so many trips get rekt this hard all at once?

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>>34060142
nah

>>34060123
man i found out tonight it has strings attached...might bail on the whole thing. pretty shitty deal desu

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>>34060142
>thinks Trips wont buy 3

jokes on you nigger

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>>34058568
More like butt hurt at random Taiwanese sweat shop workers edition

>>34060084
If I know you have NV, why would I go fight at night? Even then, I can just hide and wait until you get close. This is why your argument is dumb. Brain > equipment.

>>34060133
Your entire argument is hinged on
>dual NV tubes
You know you can wear just one right? Or maybe lift one side up and use thermal on the other eye. Also, there are hybrid devices now.
>this retarded

I want to build an ar for 3gun,
And It needs to have at least an 18inch barrel, many build ideas/suggestions?

>>34060193
monoculars a shit, welcome to stumbling around and bumping into shit

wearing 1 NOD and 1 thermal is shit, really disorienting and fucking awful in general

and you still need something to aim with if you have a fusion device

>>34060165
Notice I said "NOD-SHILLING TRIPS" in caps?

>>34060142
How good would this be for peeping in neighbors windows for boobies

>>34060222
godawful because thermals can't see through glass

>>34060212
Dual tubes on helmet. Clip on thermal on rifle. Lift one side to aim with thermal. Do you even future warfare?
>But no, I'll just wave my laser beam around at night and give away my position.

>>34060228
>before i can shoot my gun i need to fuck around with my tubes
uh huh
or how about dual tubes + COTI on helmet, RDS on rifle, and i just shoot with my day optic????

>>34060206
How much $? It can get expensive real fast. I know good race gun builds.

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Is there any reason I SHOULDN'T make my go-to AR (until I can afford a C8 clone) a sexy retro CAR-15/Commando/retro carbine? I love the looks, but when I bring it up, I get the
>It's not as effective a fighting rifle!
>The optic you want (Aimpoint Mk.III) doesn't have ten billion hours of battery life and it's old!
>REAL OPERATORS wouldn't use that nowadays!
arguments.

>>34060228
>>But no, I'll just wave my laser beam around at night and give away my position.

I dont think you understand how IR lasers work

>>34060241
Any amount.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-8-nitride-freedom-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle-516445740.html
Worth for a fuck around rifle?

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>>34060251
You won't buy a tax stamp and it will look like shit because of it.

>>34060227
wow its shit then

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>>34060142
Sure, I'll buy one of those too.

>>34060270
>Tax stamp
Never heard of 'em. Must be an American thing.

>>34060120
Hipoint is fucking awesome. We cracked the receiver on a 45 carbine after 2000+ rounds of stupidly hot ammo. They laughed and said send it in. They couldn't do shit so he got a new one and 3 mags.

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>>34060263
For a spare rifle or a backup gun thats fine but the nitride 1:8 barrel isnt the best thing in the world
>>34060251
Nothing wrong with it, just going to have to negro rig lights, optics and basically everything.

Nobody moved to rails because they looked nice, they moved to rails because they could add shit without pipe clamps

>>34060280
$200 stamp to make rifle barrels less than 16 inches

>>34060290
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ptac-16-mid-length-5-56mm-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html Would this one be better?

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>>34060299
>PTAC
Step in the wrong direction my dude. If you want PSA try to shoot for one of their "premium" chf uppers as they use the FN barrels.

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>>34060293
That's gay and retarded. Up here, an AR is an AR, nothing on length. My "A1 build in progress" is my favorite innawoods gun, though it needs new handguards and a proper finish, among other things.

>>34059748
Mcl

>>34060255
>no one else allowed to have nods but me
Lel

>>34060311
I just want a budget upper for an extra lower I have.

>>34060314
and here a magazine is a magazine, regardless of size ;^)

>>34060320
Then the first upper isnt bad at all

>>34060239
Sure, but it's hard to see RDS through tubes. You can look under your tube into RDS or into thermal sight too.

>fluffy will have an optic before gecko
What world is this?

>inb4 he warranties then pawns it for McD money

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>>34060325
>Implying
Oh nooooo all my rivets fell out oh no
:^)

Literally the first thing I do is reach for the dremel.

>>34060256
Any mount? Buy a JP rifle if factory.

>18inch rifle gas
>AGB
>LMOS
>comp
>nice trigger
There can be many variations. Be more specific. Have a realistic goal.

>>34060360
reported rip pupper

>>34060360
>maplegiddy

>>34059357
yeah I have one in ddc, better than vanilla ch

>>34060339
>Sure, but it's hard to see RDS through tubes.
not with the right setup

>You can look under your tube into RDS or into thermal sight too.
yes but this is way more awkward

>>34060320
Colt oem upper for like $350.

>>34060380
>Colt oem upper
carbine length gas system lol no

>>34060314
Since when can you AR innawoods faggot?

>>34060392
Probably airshit

>>34060391
Name something wrong with it.

>all this NV butthurt poorfaggotry
inb4
>i dont own nods bc they suck

>>34060417
Everything is wrong with carbine length gas systems they are legit shit unless you are build a pistol.

>>34060429
>he can't read

>>34060446
>he cant understand how NV works
>hes never used it

>>34060440
Be specific, list any example of "everything." I don't think you can.

>>34060440
14.5 carbine is fine

>>34060471
Which is a pistol unless you sbr it or pin and weld it.

>>34060460
Show me 1 single post that said NV sucks.

>>34060364
Freefloat
18in
Under 800$

>>34060489
Wdhmbt?

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>>34060392
Since I don't really care about the law and nobody's around to stop me.

>>34060501
>$800
That's hard.
18 faxon gunner
Aim lw bcg, or psa bcg + remove all weights from buffer
Superlative Arms AGB
Miculek brake

Those are the recoil managment components that are essential. You're on your own for trigger (s3g on sale maybe), handguard, upper, lower, etc.

Power went out and my phone is about to die bye guys :(

>>34060501
I'll sell ya a cheap Troy VTAC Alpha

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>>34058568
Your opinion lads: Would I regret making my first AR's upper and lower receivers 'two-tone'? An FDE upper and black lower is tickling my fancy.

>>34060580
yes

>>34060580
Well have a look-see at the examples in ARG.

Have you seen one that looked good?

>>34060580
Most FDE parts from different manufacturers/companies don't match.

>>34060471
There's nothing wrong with Colt's 16" carbine gas uppers either. inb4
>muh increased wear
You'll never shoot enough to notice any difference unless you out-shoot all of arg combined, in which case you wouldn't be asking these questions to begin with
>muh increased recoil impulse
See above, and also you're a pussy/female

>>34060513
>doesn't care
>won't post clear shot of face

>>34060270
How is the WOLF upper holding up?

>>34060643
Nice try, RCMP.

>>34060557
How much?

>>34060716
Idk probably like 100 bucks. I've got one of the bolt on rails for it too

>>34060724
I may be interested, I'll email you tommorow

>>34060745
Aight. I wakeup late as fuck in the day so if it's in the morning I may not see it till like 3pm

How are PSA's free float rails? Any issues?

Troy flip up BUIS are the same price as Magpul MBUS Pros, which should I get?

>>34060796
not as good as geissele

>>34060805
MBUS Pro, also:
>troy
that aside, MBUS Pro are noticeably lower profile and don't hang over the edge of the rails as grotesquely as troy's do

>>34060808
No shit, the complete PSA upper with BCG and CH is the same price as a Geissele rail.
>>34060817
Whats wrong with Troy?

>>34060827
>inb4 waco

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>>34060827
>what's wrong with Troy

BABY KILLERS!

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>>34060626
>Most FDE parts from different manufacturers/companies don't match.

What are we talking about here? Would I just get a bit of rattling and gap between the two or would they just not lock together?

>>34060827
If you don't know, it doesn't matter. Regardless, the MBUS Pros are objectively better than any other flip up buis on the market aside from KAC, and definitively better than Troy.

>>34060835
>>34060841

Can anyone explain without memeing?

>>34060848
What makes them so superior to other offerings?

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>>34060848
>the MBUS Pros are objectively better than any other flip up buis on the market aside from KAC

I've owned all three types you mentioned, and several more besides.

Please explain how your statement is correct.

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>>34060885
Well, what sells me personally on them is they're very narrow so they sit practically in line with the picatinny strip, they aren't all fat hanging over the rail like pic related

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>>34060885
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_397/239784_Troy_Industries_Statement.html

Tldr hired baby killing sniper

>>34060904
explain how it's wrong

If I have a folding buis, presumably the intent is for it to be low profile and not cluttering things up when not in use. MBUS Pro is objectively better than Troy in this regard. KAC is similar in terms of compact size when folded, but have the 200-600 adjustment in addition.

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>>34060885
You can wait for his response to >>34060904 but tl;dr they aren't.

Virtually any aluminum flip up sights from YHM up to KAC are perfectly fine, though some may prefer certain apertures or features to others.

Troy is the standard. They're a bit boring now, that's about all that's wrong with the product. The company itself has been embroiled in a PR issue for awhile, you can look it up, it's related to two FBI snipers at Ruby Ridge whom Troy employed and defended.

>>34060933
That's not how it works, squirt. I've owned 6+ brands of iron sights and never had an issue or grievance with a single one of them, not even height. I prefer KAC because they're the only ones to integrate a 600m adjustable turret into so small a package.

You explain, using your own personal experience with the products, what the problem is with them. I've got nothing to defend.

You can start by naming an optic under which Troy sights will not fit.
Protip: I've never owned an optic that even my ARMS 40 would not fit under, so good luck.

>>34060913
How do you feel about Fluffy getting an optic before you

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>>34060952
See pic

>>34060958
Airsoft doesn't count

I also was contacted by a head hunter and have some pretty cool shit coming up, I'll be surprised if I see my AR for the next month

>>34060968
>losing your riffles for a month
Cucked again

>>34060913
What exactly is the issue, this Dale guy was just some sniper at Ruby Ridge who afterwards denounced a lot of the government's decisions there and never shot anyone?

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>>34060975
The ATF was involved so I'm willing to guess that's enough to demonize him in gunowner's eyes.

>>34060968
>kidney hunter

>>34060952
>two competing folding buis
>one noticeably more compact than the other
>while retaining full functionality
>same price point
Sure thing champ, Troy are "muh just as good" as MBUS Pros.

"Compact" can have more implications than what optic they may or may not fit under. Keep recommending Troy though, I mean, it's not like a better more refined product has hit the market in the last decade.

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>>34060974
>making a lot of fucking money working around the clock

Yeah really cucked

>>34060975
I think he was a spotter or something
Regardless ruby ridge was shit and gun owners aren't happy

>>34060985
I was worried for a second that was what I typed

>>34060992
You get hired at the deli with fluffy?

>>34060999
He got hired at a subway?

Someone at PepsiCo needs to be shot. They got this new thing called PepsiFire which has cinnamon in it. It's horrible.

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>>34060991
>"Compact" can have more implications than what optic they may or may not fit under.
It literally cannot. Ocular bell housing is the only relevant consideration even remotely related to folded BUIS height.

You ignored my challenge and tried to create a straw man argument, which fell flat.

Anon, I have nothing against you. I'm trying to help the other anon from being persuaded by literal memes.

YHM, PRI, Troy, Magpul, KAC, MI, Diamondhead, Spike's, Matech, LWRC, GG&G, LMT, ARMS, it literally doesn't matter. They're all equally stout and effective. Pick one that looks good and fits the budget.

>>34061025
Burt calm down, your diabeetus

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>>34061045
Sorry. :(

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Just curious. Why don't you guys use EMR rails?

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>>34061025
You're right, there's literally no difference between these xbox hueg irons...

>>34061051
>pretending to be a leaf

>>34061064
>there's literally no difference
That's not what I said and you know it.

Quit with the straw mans.

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>>34061064
and these

seriously, I'm not the one meming here. what a farce

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>>34061057
Arg thinks they uggo

They strong and ergonomic though

>>34061068
Except it's not a strawman. I've been saying from the start that there is a noticeable size difference in these two products.

OH GODDAMN BURT HERE YOU GO. FAYGO AND 90s SHIT

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/05/faygo_bringing_back_popular_19.html

>>34061079
What Buis are those? Ty

>>34061124
Stolen

>>34061079
>ergonomic
>misspelling ergodynamic

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>>34061087
No, you started by condescendingly telling anon that one was "objectively" better than other when the opposite is true, one is subjectively better than another in your opinion. Your argument then morphed into height, and morphed again into aesthetics of compactness. Which was literally part of my argument by the way:
>>34061025
>Pick one that looks good

You've been moving goal posts for an hour, and now you've turned my argument into your argument.

Like, god damn.

>>34061093
Is it good? I've never had Faygo. I wish they would bring back Crystal Pepsi and Cactus Cooler and Ecto Cooler and Squeezits and all the cool shit I remember. And also those Ninja Turtle Hostess pies, holy shit.

>>34061124
MBUS Pro front, stolen government property KAC USMC rear.