Protection is important!

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>>34058394
Wear cheapo flak jacket over cheapo plates, kevlar will catch shrapnel.

>>34058394
>not taking truck bed liner and covering your plates in that shit
not the best but it does stop some

Would a soft armor vest on top of it work? Then the handgun rounds would be stopped by the vest, and the rifle rounds would be stopped by the plate and the spalls caught by the soft armor?

>>34058623
i tried wearing an iba with plates and no soft armor under my german kelvar and could barely move.

Yea, it's called buy ceramic, not shit steel

>>34058394
they list the laser cut, isnt't that bad for the edges? they lose strength from their heat treat. I read on some ar500 targets I got the water jet cut or alt cut method preserves that. so thats another reason these plates are cheap.

>>34058688
spall is technically pieces of armor thrown off the back when it's hit, if people are talking about shrapnel that would work, if the ar500 spalled you would take hits.

>>34058700
>IBA

We're talking slick/lightweight plate carriers/vests with a flak vest over it.

OP here, the issue I have is they are making "light weight" armors and carriers with higher ballistic defenses without pointing out.. yeah the spalling may go right through your junk below.. well.. we made everything lighter through.

>>34058667
>not covering your junk in truck bed liner
saved my ass a few times, kept me from catching the herp

>>34058764
Why not get a soft armor panel that's a little bigger than the plate and fold the excess kevlar around the edges of the plate and carefully insert into the carrier?

>>34058747
even with the soft armor getting in the way?

>>34058837
Wondering why that isnt a thing or specialized plate carrier just for the cheap plates. Mini kevlar flaps and what not sewed in. The issue is they are selling complete packages that are not as they seem.

>>34058944
>The issue is they are selling complete packages that are not as they seem

It's almost as if they're just trying to make a profit on the fact that some people are so paranoid they think their plate carrier will save them in their fantasy SHTF scenario

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>Not wearing a groin protector

>>34058755
an iba with no soft armor is about as light a plate carrier as you can get. i have a psgat vest i could try wearing under the base iba with plates if you're curious, but stacking vests doesn't work well in practice, well my practice, ymmv. i have a british flak vest somewhere too.

>>34058892
plates in that scenario were under the soft armor

This exists to remedy spalling: http://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-spall-and-frag-shield.html

>>34059157
>not being rock hard 24/7 so the shrapnel bounces off

>>34058892
oh yeah, soft armor against a hard surface is going to be raped by a rifle round.

>>34058394
AR500 plus Kevlar ICW inserts get rid of the spalling issue

With that said, I prefer my IV Ceramics because they don't weigh 30 pounds

>>34058747
I logged back into my work computer to tell you that you're retarded.

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>>34058739
HAZ from laser cutting is significantly smaller than from plasma cutting. Water jet and EDM are the best for AR series steel.

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>>34059636
Equation describing the HAZ in a given laser cutting scenario. the variables are power, velocity of cut, and diameter of cutting laser.

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>>34059621
how so?

>>34059377
>being so rock hard that the shrapnel causes your dick to break in twain

>>34059316
>>34058688
>>34059452
soft armor should always be worn underneath the rifle plates.

>>34059693
y?

>Buy plates with spall liner
>Problem solvesd

>>34059658
link to white paper.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/amse/2016/1242565/
>>34059702
to prevent soft armor being cut by the bullet. If soft armor is against something hard, like an AR 550 plate, it will be cut cleanly by much lower power rounds than what is necessary to penetrate the armor when it is worn over something yielding, like fat Americans.

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>>34059797
that and spall

>>34059157
Trust me, after using one of those for a day you aren't going to want to wear it ever again.

>>34060175
that one doesn't even have pauldrons

>>34058394
Here, this shit is about the same price as steel but it's actually armor.

>You're welcome

https://armour-wear.com/shop/all/hard-plates/hard-plate-10-x-12-alum-level-4-stand-alone/

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>>34059663

>>34058772
>not removing your cock and testicles and keeping them safe at home in a drawer

It's like you want to die from aids.

Sierra12 proved spalling is a meme

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>Not keeping your cock and balls safely guarded behind your shooting hand