Explain yourself

>>34039291
I'll tell you what it is.

It's fucking ded.

I've been here for 11 years now, I see people every so often claim they're gonna make a firearm. I've seen a few get somewhere, but they've been far between.

Most of all I see people basically trying to reinvent the wheel. Hundreds of thousands of people have already banged their heads against the wall to create functional guns, we can see the fruits of their labor all around us in the millions of pistols, rifles, and shotguns everywhere. Yet, still people come here and try to make something that's already been tried ten, fifty, or even a hundred years ago (usually multiple times).

So yeah OP, the explanation usually ends up being "the mook did not lurk moan enough"

>>34039291
you can't make your own gun that's illegal the goverment makes guns

>>34039621
Yes you can you fucking retard

I remember the first thread that guy made. he's literally some /pol/ack noguns who knew nothing about how guns work or how they are made. I never expected anything out of it.

>>34039642
>unable to recognize a farcical post

>>34039642
>the government makes guns
Clearly you didn't realize he's french

>hurr they refused to give me a janitor position
>i know i'll keep making shitpost threads until all my pass accounts are banned
>that will show them
get cucked faggot

>>34039665
He was claiming IWI is shitposting about him and his secret invention over the weekend.

>>34039291
What kind of action does this abomination supposedly have? Blowback? It looks like a retarded subgun.

>>34039291
Shit died. And for good reason.

>>34039846
It's like a sten gun, except shittier.

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>>34039291
Its oddly medical looking.
>beige
>"ergonomics"
>cafeteria tray front divot

is it just me?

>>34040325
The new medical gun! It'll heal you with magical health bullets!

>>34039786
>secret invention
>blowback 9mm
Jews confirmed for going back in time to invent every early smg?

>>34040482
That sounds a bit like something he'd spout.

>>34039762
What are you talking about?

>>34039603
I hope you're not saying no one on k makes guns, cos I'm a machinist and I'm no stranger to making a nice gun.

But you're right on the inventing part. There's basically nothing left to invent in firearms. This guy wanted to make a sub 100 dollar gun, and that's the hard part. Sure I can make sub 100 dollar gun, but with scrap and not counting my time and on hand material. If you try to go into mass production, you quickly learn a billet of 3 quarter inch aluminum is 39 bucks each.

>>34040622
>This guy wanted to make a sub 100 dollar gun, and that's the hard part
Not if it's a slambang.

If you wanted to make a 9mm carbine that's dumb cheap then the Hi-Point is about as good as you get.

>>34040691
It's about 300 bucks msrp right?

>>34039786
He legitimately believed there was an orchestrated attempt by Jews online to discredit him, and he'd just scream "JIDF!!" every time someone posted a legitimate criticism or called him out on bullshit.

I'm guessing he's permabanned by now, because he got banned for a few days a few times, then started ban evading, pretending he was "a friend" of himself.

>>34040756

sounds like a typical 4chan retard. Nothing of value was lost.

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>>34040741
Yeah, not too hard to find for slightly under that.

It really isn't a bad gun for being a cheap zinc-bodied blowback, with those new factory 20rd mags it's a decent plinker and a passable defensive gun.
If you can find an ATI stock for one at some point along with the mags, they transform it into something not terrible.

Of course you'll also ask yourself if you want to spend that kind of money on a Hi-Point
It'll beat the shit out of the meme liberator vaporware.

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>>34040756
>He legitimately believed there was an orchestrated attempt by Jews online to discredit him

>>34040801
It takes a certain type of lunatic to dream big. Unfortunately that's the same type of lunatic who gets bogged down in random shit that no sane person would spend a second on.

>>34039846
>>34039856
>>34040756
>>34040691
>>34040915
>>34040907

You are missing the point, If there is a nutcase trying to make a new gun we need to encourage this with everything we have. We need more weird ass prototypes for videogames and movies. We are running out of Pancor Jackhammers, WA2000s, and the like.

>>34040989
Except after several months of high speed, low drag planning, all he had to show for it was pic in op. Dude couldn't answer very simple questions, and would get really belligerent if you pushed him for info.

I'm all for weird, new, or otherwise homemade guns, I'm always in garage gun threads, but you've gotta be realistic.

I've even got an idea for a lever delayed 5.56 Sten gun, but I'm not going to spout entire threads of bullshit about it, because my knowledge of machining and engineering is pretty limited.

>>34039291
>Nigga

what the fuck is that shit ?

on the internet nobody knows you're a nigger unless you type like 1

>>34040907
Would you expect anything else from someone who named a gun "Pepe"?

Sad thing is he still posts 'updates' on his kikebook and twatter saying how some nigger celeb will endorse him, how it's gonna blow everyone's mind and yadda yadda. It's all really peripathetic

>>34041535
This is 4chan, we call everyone a nigger unless you're black, where you'd get called an upstanding gentleman of nubian descent.

If you happen to be an ACTUAL upstanding gentleman of nubian descent, then you'd be called a nigger like everybody else.

>>34040989
He can shine on like the crazy diamond he is as far as I'm concerned. His obsession with conspiracy theory suggests his energies are directed in the wrong pursuits, however.

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>>34039665
>>34039786
>>34040756
>>34040907
>>34040915
So, the quick rundown,
>Some /pol/lack wants to invent a gun
>After making a few shit to average tier blowback 9mm designs and naming it Pepe he's convinced JIDF and IWI are after him for his design
yeah?

If so that's fucking hilarious. Honestly what a fucking time to be alive.

>>34041643
There actually is an upstanding gentleman of Nubian descent on /int/, he's a doctor who lives in Sudan.

>>34040989
But he isn't a nutcase with a grand vision, he's a nutcase with an extremely bland vision, his grand design is an absolutely, by the dozen blowback carbine, with no standout or interesting design elements to it, even the looks are dull.

>>34041505
5.56mm is a bit intense for lever-delayed, I hope you're going to buffer the bolt somehow.

>>34041722
...wut? No it isn't. See FAMAS.

>>34041705
That's the long and short of it.

I remember when it looked like a piece of shit. It is looking much better. If I had some skills with manufacturing I would help out on getting this started.

>>34041744
The FAMAS literally has a recoil buffer in it's stock.

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>>34041744
>>34041851
Seen here, it's in the top of the buttstock.

You *can* do without it, but I recommend fitting SOMETHING in the rear of the receiver to help catch the impact of the traveling bolt (even if just a rubber or fiber pad), saves on the bolt and receiver while making recoil a bit nicer.

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>>34040435
Children, behave

>>34039291
I follow him on FB and Twitter and he's chugging along.

My biggest concern is the sights are fixed and he will be shit at sighting them.

>>34041803
Yeah he sounds real easy to work with.

Is anybody else buying one for the novelty of owning something made by 4chan?

Usually native products are shit but some are cool. It's kind of like when you hear an American made something cool, like autistic patriotism.

>>34042121
If you want something made by 4chan, buy some patches.

>>34042130
Oh I have a shit ton of those. I like the *weird* stuff more though. Like RPG systems, knives, etc

>>34042121
>Implying he'll be able to commercialize them.

Nigga has 0 engineering knowledge. Of any kind. His marketing skills aren't very good either.

A cheap lathe costs like 1000 bucks, and his stock design would need some serious casting equipment. Plus whatever milling etc is required. Plus I doubt he has any understanding of material science. And let's not forget the equipment to rifle barrels. Even If he bought all the tools, I doubt he has the machining knowledge to use a single one.

If he makes 1 it's gonna be a haphazard pos with mild steel barrel too thin to handle the pressure, and aluminum parts that wear down quickly.

>>34042292
Actually, I'm pretty sure he wanted to 3D print the stocks.

>>34042301
Even worst.

He's probably gonna do cheap abs printing and the stock will crack by the 4th round. Not only that, but 3d printing is currently very expensive and shit for mass production.

A cast takes minutes to hours. A 3d print takes hours to days.

>>34039291
Don't insult his godly design for fear of him smiting you with a mighty and righteous REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE before he starts ranting about the Jews stealing his design over your horribly mangled corpse

>>34040741
Something along the lines of
>it's only gonna be $100
>what do you need that $150 for?
>help some anti-semite is trying to swindle me out of $200

>neat gun, how does it work?
>it's a fucking secret REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>inb4 it's a twice as complicated version of the AN-94, but 4 shots for one pull instead of 2

>>34040756
He was in a thread yesterday

>>34042921
Spoiler alert: It's a sten gun clone

>>34043051
Probably ban evading for the millionth time.

>>34039642
You took the most obvious bait

>>34042121
If I was going to purchase an imaginary gun this wouldn't be it.

>>34042936
Why would it be? The guy knows nothing.

>>34043829
neither do the russians

>>34039291
its designed to be easy to 3d print

you can't just print random shapes and expect them to come out nice every time

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>>34039291

First of all, before I respond to anyone; let's clear up a few things:

1. The price of the gun has not, and will not "keep going up." It was always ~$100 range, and always will be.

Let me explain something to you.

The 199$ is the out of the door cost, no shipping, handling, federal excise tax, extra sales tax, etc.

So if you like, I can say it's about 165$ if that helps you.

Also, this is the direct manufacturer cost. If you buy from an affiliate vendor (who is the celebrity that many of you are sure doesn't exist), there will be an additional, probably $25 dollar discount on top of this.

>TL;DR: Before tax cost is 165$ from me, ~140$ from a vendor, with the out of the door price being under $200 in any case, no exceptions.

When my Bridgeport, plasma table, etc, etc get paid off, I will lower the price further. When I can make larger material acquisitions, I will lower the price further.

The same people bitching are the ones who will be breaking my door down to buy one; Do everyone a favor and chill out.

>>34048643
>only $50 guys
>I swear it's only $100
>what a bargain at $150
>so what if it's the same price as a hi point carbine now? It's literally brilliant
Lol gtfo

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>>34039291
>>34039315

2. It's not dead, it was never dead. It turns stamped steel is always king, and BTFO'd my plastic lower in pretty much about every way. Could I have continued with the plastic, yes. Was it the best, no.

The lower went through a redesign by yours truly, and is currently being assembled for a test fire.

> TL;DR: "Pause" in updates was actually a revamp to bring it to you all even faster / cheaper.

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>>34039603

remember when those anons decided they were going to make a VSS Vintorez clone?

>mfw

>>34048667
He should of went with $99.99. Psychologically, that's a great price point, it's less than $100! It's practically free!

>>34048693

Shit, whatever happened to those guys? They had a website if I remember right.

>>34039642
That wasn't even bait.
That was a whole capsized commercial tuna rig.

>>34039291

Ace, where are you? Defend your creation!

>>34048643
>>34048692
Are you a machinist?

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>>34039603

That's all fine and dandy; but I'm not any of those people. Perfectly reasonable complaint, but it's just not the case, *shrugs*.

>basically trying to reinvent the wheel

Right man, but the thing is that there has been plenty of technical innovation recently. It's not really a fair assumption that you are sure this isn't. When you see it, you will know, until then, I can't stop you from thinking that.

>>34039621

What? Maybe if you live in China, dumbass. Pretty much any country there is a path for weapon production, no matter how many regs.

>>34039642

This.

>>34039665

> /pol/ack noguns

I am a /polack/, but I have plenty of guns.

>knew nothing about how guns work or how they are made

Far from the truth.

>>34039677

Idk, some people on here...

>>34039746

"French," as in t. Muhammed Frenchman.

>>34039762

I've never applied, but that would be cool. I have one pass account that a /kommando/ graciously bought me so I could respond to people like you. Your own brethren...who's cucked now, whyte boi?

>>34039786

They have admitted it more than once.

>>34039846

Straight blowback.

>>34039856

Never died, stop shilling.

>>34040243

Sten + AR-180....yeah. But not shittier.

>>34040325

I mean...do you like that?

>>34040435

Pretty cringy breh.

>>34040482

That's not the innovative part, but I did have a chuckle, m8...

>>34040499

Maybe a little.

>>34040622

Who fucking knows what he's talking about, seriously. Strawman out the ass.

>There's basically nothing left to invent in firearms.

>This guy wanted to make a sub 100 dollar gun, and that's the hard part.

See what you did there?

>>34040691

>It would be a lot cheaper if it was an open bolt machine gun

You don't say?

Also, hi point a shit.

>>34040741

I thought it was about 330$?

>>34048912
Also, you say Hi-Point is shit, but they actually make a product that generally works and is in the price range you are aiming for. How do you expect to do better?

>>34048806
Still do just unupdated.

>>34048937

Hi Point uses dumb single stack mags. If I remember correctly this will use common Glock mags.

>not but a mediocre CAD model

Yeah, I'm sure this guy is totally legit.

>>34048971
So what if Hi-Point uses single stack magazines.

>>34048987

Save the picture and rename it as a .rar

>>34049004

Expensive and low capacity

>>34039291
looks like a gun that is 3d printed, future guns would be cheap and easy to produce.

>>34048912
>they have admitted it more than once
On their website or fb page I imagine? Or do you have to have their seder bugged? Where does one go to see IWI gloat about how they're keeping down the redpilled?

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>>34040756

They have admitted it to me, and I know when it all started. I don't need your validation to know that's it's true.

>I'm guessing he's permabanned by now

Never been permad

> because he got banned for a few days a few times

This is true

>"then started ban evading, pretending he was "a friend" of himself."

This is not true, I actually had someone on my team responding for me.

>>34040801

Says the person on a Chinese light bulb engineering forum.

>>34040880

On what grounds would it beat my gun? My gun will be half the price, take glock mags, among others. Subjective as fuck, man.

>>34040907

Not Jews, IWI / or JDIF. Jews is a catch all.

>>34040915

This is true, but when these types of people do the impossible, they go from being crazy to eccentric.

>>34040989

Lmao, If Ian ever hold my gun on FW or an offshoot channel; I think I can die happy.

"And frankly; no one thought it would be made"
"See the little Pepe on the side, that came from the Eastern plant"

>>34041505

Here, let me fix that for you:

>Dude couldn't answer very simple questions

Wouldn't divulge trade secrets

>would get really belligerent if you pushed him for info

Would get really pissed off when people wouldn't let it go that I'm not going to tell you why the FCG was proprietary.

"I've even got an idea for a lever delayed 5.56 Sten gun, but I'm not going to spout entire threads of bullshit about it, because my knowledge of machining and engineering is pretty limited."

Make your meme dreams real dude, don't get pissy that other people have the motivation to do something while you armchair hard as fuck.

>>34041535

I'm not one, pic very related. He must have genetics envy.

>>34041585

It's the Pepe Liberator 9mm Carbine, get it right.

>>34041622

I do have celeb endorsement, you will be able to purchase right from her affiliate page.


"how it's gonna blow everyone's mind"

world's cheapest centerfire semi auto rifle will blow some minds my dude.

>>34049027
>hi-point
>expensive

spotted the impoverishedfag

>>34049027
Why don't you man up and throw your trip back on. Pepe Liberator is basically a Hi-Point carbine that is going to be slightly cheaper, have a much rougher finish, be less sturdy, and have non-existent warranty.

>>34049049

Compare the price of a Magpul Glock mag and a Hi Point mag.

What the fuck is your people's problem with this guy? His project either works out or it doesn't, either way we aren't losing anything

>>34049087
You can put the trip back on dude.

>>34049087
I have no problem with him or his project. I don't think he has much understanding of how you machine a product.

>>34049087
You know that one guy who joined with a POG MOS and won't shut the fuck up about how he trains with the SEALs and Delta?

This is the equivalent.

If he'd just do his own thing and make a cool gun, that'd be great. But instead he chooses every single thread to be a blowhard cunt about it. Every single one.

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>>34039291
>>34048643
yo sick thread f a m can I get a pepe edited with this gat you cooking up ?

>>34049033
Somebody roleplayed as an Israeli in the last thread, thus "confirming" his suspicion.

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>>34041643

This guy gets it.

>>34041649

There is no conspiracy, I pissed some one off who decided to fuck with me. It is what it is. Appreciate it though.

>>34041705

Pretty much, although it isn't shit tier.

Best timeline?

>>34041712

There is also a board famous black /k/ member IIRC?

>>34041713

" an extremely bland vision, "

Continuously lowering the price of a PCC until literally most inexpensive gun in the world isn't bland, my dude.

The interesting part is the price, and it will have a certain STENstetic to it.

>>34041722

Not impossible, however.
>>34041789

Yep, but it's all besides the point of the gun itself.

>>34041803

Thanks man.

>>34041744

see >>34041851


>>34041899

I mean, spring aren't expensive lol, may as well use one.

>>34041959

They don't know how.

>>34041989

Thanks man, just updated.

>>34042025

I'm a pretty easygoing guy tbqh senpai.

>>34042130

Or you could buy my gun...

>>34042153

Guns?

>>34042292

"Nigga has 0 engineering knowledge."

You have no idea what I would or wouldn't know, what a stupid assumption to make.

"A cheap lathe costs like 1000 bucks, and his stock design would need some serious casting equipment. Plus whatever milling etc is required. Plus I doubt he has any understanding of material science. And let's not forget the equipment to rifle barrels. Even If he bought all the tools, I doubt he has the machining knowledge to use a single one. "

>Equipment is needed

No fucking way, really? Wow, I'm floored.

>too thin to handle the pressure
>9mm

K.

>>34042301

I did, the lower is being switched to stamped steel. >>34048692

>>34042320

See above, going to steel.>>34048692

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>>34042121

I agree, It would be cool to own things that are chan originated. Probably some of the allure for patch owners around here.

>>34042798

Pretty much this, honestly. RWSS when?

>>34042815

See >>34048643

>>34042921

Yes, yes it is. Anything else?

>>34042936

Nah man, it was designed to be as simple as humanely possible.

>>34043051

I was, I'm here now as well.

>>34043062

Some aspects, sure. Where can you get a new STEN clone for under 200$? I'll wait.

>>34043131

Never been permabanned.

>>34043138

It took it a little bit too..

>>34043434

It's not imaginary, you are welcome to never purchase.

>>34043829

Ohh burn, you don't even know me.

>>34045707

Russia clearly hacked this thread.

>>34048369

This is true.

>>34048643
> It was always ~$100 range, and always will be. literally 2 lines later
>The 199$ is the out of the door cost, no shipping, handling, federal excise tax, extra sales tax, etc.
You are such a fucking faggot, you are just riding breeki bros coattails and larping about making some shit gun.
>>34048692
>currently being assembled for a test fire.
Never going to happen.

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>>34048667

You are implying that a high point carbine costs 140$? Gtfo retard, don't have time for the b8 m8.

>>34048693

You mean scammed the board for preorders, something I'm not doing?

>>34048803

It could get down to that point in the future.

>>34048806

Scammed, is what happened, Akin to the Rhodie camo.

>>34048833

It was so retarded that I almost believed it.

>>34048901

He is in a rocket, on the way to space, my commiefornia bro.

>>34048909

Are you a machinist?

>>34048937

Half of the price of something is in the same price range? What?

>>34048954

That's a real dead project.

>>34048971

That is correct.

>>34048987

I have build photos on my FB and Twitter.

>>34049004

They are shitter, lower cap....

>>34049013

kek

>>34049027

Beat me to it.

>>34049031

It was going to be, even though you are being sarcastic.

>>34049049

He was talking about the mags.

Basically the point is that these will be so cheap...it's an offer you can't refuse.

>>34049052

Wasn't me. I don't do that.

>>34049068

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make because they are all different prices, but you can absolutely get Glock mags for cheaper esp for the capacity.

>>34049087

People like to bitch. They secretly want one, much like a philly playing hard to get.

>>34049102

Used my trip the entire time, that's why you need flags and ID's like /pol/

>>34049111


What have I done that is blowhard and cuntish?

>>34049181

Yes you can, for a fee.

>>34049188

They have emailed me, the IWI fag

>>34049048
You wouldnt answer simple as fuck questions about your basic bitch gun, its a blowback 9mm, and your talking about putting in a recoil buffer? are you retarded, theres no proprietary secrets here, your just larping and posting shitty 3d renders.

>>34049230
>>34049281
You still haven't said anything that proves you know a damned thing about the cost that goes into the machining process. Do you even know the what rated life span of quality cutting inserts are on a CNC lathe? Have you even used a lathe, or a mill? How about CNC? You haven't shown anything beyond a 3D model that looks like it was drawn up in gimp.

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>>34049345

" you are just riding breeki bros coattails"

The first time I even heard of Breeki's gun is when he posted in my thread about it. His design is absolutely a different target demo than mine, we will probably be working together in the future. Fuck off, mate.

Next post, watch.

>>34049395

What do you want to know? The only thing that is secret is the FCG, anything else, ask away. What do you specifically want to know about the gun?

>>34049394
do you have a working prototype yet? Im actually decently interested in the gun. Looks pretty cool for a 9mm carbine.

>>34049461
Why the fuck are you talking about a famas recoil buffer in a 9mm steel gun first off which your now supposedly making out of steel sheeting? Because your larping you idiot. None of this is real, its just 3d renders and poorly drawn build prints.

>>34048909
>Are you a machinist?
>>34049394
>Are you a machinist?

How about answering the question instead of parroting it back like a three year old. I'm not a machinist, I haven't had enough experience. But I have and know how to use machine tools both manual and CNC. I do have a fair understanding of what goes into fabrication, from material, tooling, labor, and scale. I don't believe you do, I don't even believe you could draft a blue print for your gun, let make a bill of material for it.

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>>34049437

Right....but the thing is that I don't feel the obligation to prove that to you. Literally everything on the board it here say, even people who are XYZ journeymen for XYZ Mill & Dildo corp. What do you want me to say?

>I've written G-code
>I'm purchasing a bridgeport
>Those models came from AutoCAD

What would assure you? I mean, in all seriousness, this is silly. From what position of authority are you calling me out?

>>34049461
So your threads have been around longer than his *supposedly* but you have much less progress, and no proof this is anything other than larping, when he has several <1moa prototypes built?

Yeah, tell me again how your drawings will amount to a gun around 100 dollars too.

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Completed (Rusty) upper, sitting on the new lower.

Doesn't look like much; but will in a few days. Completed upper on protype lower blank. The switch to steel puts 80% kits back on the table. I need to see what the ATF will allow me to do; because kek willing I can provide the lower mostly bent with the mounting tabs flat....you bend the tabs....voila...freedom dispenser.

Important to remember these will be stamped, primed & painted with no imperfections. This one won't be pretty; but yours will.

>>34049394
>>34049281
>>34049230
The autism in replying to each post. Wow. We really are from the same board.

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>>34049530

*lower blank. Just cut it yesterday, will have a few more things done today. All of these updates are on my FB page first FYI.

>>34049530
Nigger that is 10$ worth of (Rusty) steel pipe and fittings cut with a dremal tool. That isnt a fucking upper.

>>34049501
All I'm calling you out on is your ignorance. Whether you can make your product or not is irrelevant to me, but I don't think you'll be able to turn a profit if your price was $500.

>>34048643
>$100 range
>$199
Schlomo please.

>>34049530
>it's a threaded pipe with slots cut into it and nuts.
Jesus fucking christ.

Do you even have a chamber reamer? Or some kind of rifling tools?

Actually let me ask an Honest question. How much does the bolt weigh?

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>>34049546
I went to your Facebook, its literally nothing, all you have is 3d renders and 10$ worth of steel piping screwed together, there isnt even a fucking spring in it.
>>34049571
Theres no bolt, theres no chamber. Theres no fucking rifling, thats literally steel pipe screwed together.

THERE ISNT EVEN A FUCKING SPRING.

>>34049598
I know nothing is shown.

I'm just asking him what dimensions of bolt his design requires.

[spoiler] I'm a machinist and mechanical engineer [/spoiler]

>>34049530
Hahaha a rusty pipe upper oh jeezus

>>34049638
Im not saying that its not shown, Im saying it dosetn exist. Thats just steel piping, theres no chamber, no feeding system, no bore, no rifling. This asshole cut some slots in steel tubing, screwed it together and put it on top of a box he mad out of steel sheeting and calls it an "Upper receiver".

Theres no feeding mechanism, no trigger mech, so slot for any of that to even get into his tubing that hes faking as a chamber. This nigger is literally larping, with 10$ worth of steel tubing and a dremal tool.

>>34049598
>there isnt even a fucking spring in it.

To hell with the spring, there isn't even a trigger.

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>>34049463

See my FB page for updates, or >>34049530

>>34049480

What in the flying fuck are you talking about, Julian?

> a famas recoil buffer in a 9mm steel gun

English is obviously not your first language, Paco.

I was never at any point in time talking about that.

Can't read, English too shit. We can switch to Dutch, Afrikaans, German, Spanish, or Mandarin, take your pick...

>>34049489

I grew up in an autobody shop. I've been taking shit apart since I was 6 years old. I've used every tool you were in reference to, I'm highly educated in a STEM field, I have multiple literal Aerospace engineers at my disposal should I need them. So..no...but, I don't really think it's relevant to be honest. I'm perfectly capable if I do say so.

>let make a bill of material for it.

M8...that's like the easiest part lmao

>>34049507

I've had my threads for about 6 months on the dot, how long has Breeki been here? Genuinely asking, I'm not familiar.

>>34049533

What up, fellow kekistani

>>34049550

You are seriously implying you can make those cuts with a dremel? You must be really fucking good at using a dremel.

>>34049557

I see your feigned attempted at me disclosing my price point / margin. Not taking the bait m8.

>>34049569

What can I say. 1, read the fucking post. 2. Israel needs shekels, goy!

>>34049571

1. Yes
2. Yes

Bolt weighs just over 1.5 pounds. I know most blowback calcs will call for 1.7 but I want a little extra mobility in the cycle to account for some of the reset pressure the FCG exerts on the bolt.

>>34049598

There is a spring, there is a chamber, there is rifling. There is even a video of it cycling rounds...

>>34049638

I addressed your question.

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>>34049660

All of the other parts are polished and clear coated, the actual main tube itself I didn't. Left it in the garage for a week, then promptly lost my spaghetti. I'm kind of pissed about that desu.

>>34049693

You must have trouble reading. I said it was a blank, not finished, I cut it yesterday.

You can't make cuts like that with a dremel, you should know that.

>>34049698

There is a spring in that photo.

>>34049702
>There is a spring, there is a chamber, there is rifling. There is even a video of it cycling rounds...

Let's see the video.

>>34049702
>literal aerospace engineers
Does the gun fly?

>>34049546
You didnt "Just cut it yesterday" you posted this garbage on your fb more than a week ago,
>>34049702
You are literally on your fb posting about how you love using your dremal, your "Video" is literally your popping a whole 9mm round out of the end of your tubing, anyone with eyes can see its literally just steel tubing and some sheet metal you bent into a box. How di you make a chamber from steel piping? Howd you make rifling? how about any kind of actual anything that any asshole with 15 dollars and a dremal tool can make.

Thats the entirety of your Bullshit.

>>34049727

Feeding rounds would have been a better description

>>34049724
>All of the other parts are polished and clear coated, the actual main tube itself I didn't. Left it in the garage for a week, then promptly lost my spaghetti. I'm kind of pissed about that desu.

What part of this made you think it wouldn't have a coat of rust after a day? If you scrap even a thousandth off the exterior of mild steel it will rust in just a few days if you don't coat it or oil it.

>>34049702
I have multiple degrees in aerospace engineering as well, and I do product design and product development for a career. And you're full of shit.

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>>34049724
You screwed those pipes together at least 8 days ago according to the pictures on your facebook idiot. ANd its still not anything resembling anything other than rusty tubes.

"Upper" lol.

>>34049787
Dat barrel...

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>>34049727

https://www.faceBERG.com/736390326516854/videos/755176861304867/

>>34049731

No, but it does go swimming when the ATF comes looking for it.

>>34049743

Your retardation knows no bounds. This is not that. That was dimensional, this is the real one. Not even the same gauge of steel. That's painted for god's sake.

>>34049748

Probably yeah.

>>34049764

Right, but it didn't when it was inside. Idk man, yeah that was dumb, I'll fix it in a tick.

>>34049778

Nope, I'm not. next.

>>34049787

Different thing, autist. Your visual acuity is shit.

>>34049789

Yes, that is an upper.

TO everyone who still believes this is anything more than BS larping, his FB where all the retardation and literal nothing can be found, please view before he takes it down.
ITs on FB as V3Armaments and even 4chan thinks this is BS spam.
www facebook com slash V3Armaments dash 736390326516854

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>>34049530
I was on board until I saw this. Can you please elaborate on what exactly this is besides shit I can get at the local hardware store?

>>34049828
Its the exact same shit, except now its rusty. Good job.

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>>34049787

"May 15 at 9:00pm ·

Completed PL-9 upper (minus the stock) on a TEMPLATE PL-9 lower. This one is bolted, the next prototype lower will be stamped; sooner than later. The FINISHED PROTOTYPE WON"T LOOK LIKE THAT, obviously. Wanted to show it's very alive."

>>34049827

That barrel can be unscrewed. Think about it.

>>34049832

I already shared my page dumbass, you didn't beat me to the punch.

>>34049839

It will look like any other normal gun when finished.

"Important to remember these will be stamped, primed & painted with no imperfections. This one won't be pretty; but yours will."

It's a prototype dude. It's not pretty atm.

>>34049843

Nope.

>>34049828
You made a 9mm pez dispenser...

Look, far be it from me to critic your pet project, but you won't make money on this, you won't make money on it even if you publish this as a step by step instruction book because other such literature already exists and yields a better end result.

It looks like a fun project, but quit while you're ahead. Take what you've learned and apply it to your next project. Use this as a stepping stone for knowledge, not a business venture.

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>>34049394
no fuck you !

>>34039291
>Makes CAD drawing
>Approaching space-gun tier
>Seems to imply PL9 Carbine will be 3D-print quality
>Could easily print this in my shop
>Poorfag accessible 3D poly printer costs $1-2K
>Produces >>34049530 instead
>G-guys you can trust me I know some people from undergrad who are aero / mech
>Screws together some pipes
>Voila that will be $300 goy

Nigger this is trolling.

>>34049882
what about a trigger system? I see a spring inside a bolt lookin thingy and that's it

>>34049882
Its not a prototype its not even a proof of concept its literally 10$ with or steel piping.

You cant screw togrther a few pipes call it a workong prototype and promise "yours will look better i promise" when youd have to change literally everything to make ot anything. Take a single pic of the rifling, except you cant, its just a bunch of fucking rusty pipes.

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>>34049882
Perhaps I need to elaborate on my questioning.

>It will look like any other normal gun when finished.
Will it still be made of shit that comes from the hardware store?

>It's a prototype dude. It's not pretty atm.
I understand it's a prototype, but a prototype of what exactly? Are you actually going to buy shit at the hardware store, assemble it, clean it up, then sell it as a completed project?

If that's your deal, cool. I've made lots of potato cannons, but I never sold them.

>>34049702
>What up, fellow kekistani
Youre giving me something to chew my tendies to
well done

>>34050030
Same fag turn your trip on.

>>34049909

This has been in open development and I make no qualms about that. You aren't seeing a finished product, just like any other product in dev.

>because other such literature already exists and yields a better end result

No, it really doesn't. Muh table leg gun or bullet hose isn't a real viable option, takes a shitload of time to build, is illegal, uses proprietary mags, and won't be as reliable. People will pay the ridiculously low price to get one at their doorstep, quick and easy.

I know you are coming from a place of trying to help, and save me the trouble, but you're incorrect.

>>34049927

Yes, fuck me.

>>34049934

140$ base price isn't 300$.

It's not trolling.

>>34049939

That was just the upper.

>>34049976

The design premise was to make the most inexpensive rifle possible, I'm doing that. Your point is moot seeing as how that's all a gun is anyway. I don't give a shit that you are hung up the base materials, think harder about your troll please.

>>34049978

Steel? Yes. Just like every other gun. Some parts no, some yes.

It doesn't matter as long as it looks good and works. The lowers will be stamped, all parts will be painted, etc. It will look fine.

"when youd have to change literally everything to make ot anything"|

What are you talking about.

>>34050030

Really activating your almonds, no?

Really...making you think?

>>34050039
uhgh we're different people you kike

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>>34050039

I don't feel the need to samefag. I never turn my trip off, even in unrelated posts.

>>34050060
Yeah. In how not to build.

>>34050060
A gun is definayely more than 10$ worth of steel piping you idiot. More importantly

TAKE A PIC OF THE RIFLING YOU LIAR.

This is literally nothing. You havent made a gun you made some pipes that go click.

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>>34050071

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>>34050093

I keked lmao

>>34050083

Dude, please learn how to spell; It's cringe to read. Is it? Are you saying a slamfire shotgun isn't a gun? That's literally 10$ in parts, shoots 12 ga.

>>34050073

zinger

>>34050066

No it's me samefagging obviously

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>>34050060
Steel?

>>34049978
>Are you actually going to buy shit at the hardware store, assemble it, clean it up, then sell it as a completed project?

You can't answer a question with a question. I'll ask another way.

Are you cobbling hardware store parts together to make a functional gun? If so, that's cool.

I have eyes to see and a brain to reason and I'm seeing a bunch of shit from the hardware store.

>>34050120

Here, let me try again. This is assembled from hardware parts in the way that some of the actual base materials do come from the hardware store.

Having said that, the upper tube is milled, the bolt is milled, the trunion is dremeled, the barrel is rifled. To answer your question, no, you couldn't just assemble that shit and have it work. It's about lowering my cost to lower your cost, not simply, muh hardware store.

Does that make sense?

>>34050120
>>34050164

For instance, you can get plate steel at the hardware store. The production lowers will be stamped from steel. But you don't say a stamped steel lower is from the hardware store, do you? No, you don't.

>>34050083

Neck yourself, pleb.

>>34050164
>dREMELED trunion
wtf is wrong with you

>be me
>go to gun store
>see shitty 9mm blowback carbine on the wall
>looks homemade
>tool marks all over it
>"whats that?" i inquire
>"thats a pepe 9mm liberator" replies the attendant
>"ok cool. I think i'll buy that highpoint carbine please"

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>>34050179
Why are you still replying?

>>34050198

But what if it was $100?

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>>34050164
>This is assembled from hardware parts in the way that some of the actual base materials do come from the hardware store.
>Does that make sense?
Дa. Moлoдeц. Cпacибo.

Sounds like a lot of labor to afford customers a lower cost though. Considering most кaпитaлиcт enterprises charge premium for labor.

>>34050203
i'd buy it for parts if it was 100$

>>34050198

But the thing is that it won't look shitty. It will be polished, gloss paint, AR style handle, etc. It won't look like FO4 tier.

HPC: 330 before tax
PL9: 160$ vendor price

You sure about that?

>>34050200

I'm a man that has nothing to lose.

>>34049702
>1.5 lb bolt for a closed bolt
You have no idea what wrong with this.

>>34050217
But do you have a lifetime warranty?

>>34050203

Right, that's my point. He is implying he can resist buying a PCC for 100~$...he can't, he knows he can't....he doesn't want this to be made because he is fully aware he will break down and buy one.

>>34050205

I caught one word from that, and I think maybe your said Kremlin.

Nah, It will be line produced, 100 - 250 at a time, no big. I'm not worried.

>>34050213

Is...is that good?

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>>34048912
>I thought it was about 330$?
You'll never make it at that price and it wouldn't be worth a dime over 350.
You don't have any production capacity and you will never get the tooling to do stamping.
You should give up on actually producing these and just admit that it will be a one-off.
Now I will admit that it looks functional but nobody will buy these.

>>34050231

I could do that if it made the difference for the customer.

>>34050218

No, I don't because that's what most bolt calcs call for. Please explain to the class, I'm sure you can't.

>>34050218
>>34050248
He's right about the bolt weight for a blowback 9mm gun

>>34050240

Ok...I'm telling you that it will be. You will just wait...and then see I guess.

No it wouldn't be worth 350, notice how I'm not selling for that price.


"You don't have any production capacity and you will never get the tooling to do stamping."

You have no clue what I do or don't have. End of discussion.


"You should give up on actually producing these and just admit that it will be a one-off"

No, that's ok.

"Now I will admit that it looks functional but nobody will buy these."


Why?

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>>34050253

Get rekt.

>>34050164
>barrel is rifled
Show rifling

>>34050253
He's right about the bolt weight for an open bolt 9mm. Because an open bolt has inertia moving forward. A closed bolt needs 1.7 at minimum and it's better to go more.

You're playing a dangerous game marketing a light bolt.

>>34039291
Thanks OP< I needed this laugh.

>>34050282

No, that's alright, I need to shower and attach handle to lower, install gussets.

>Bolt weighs just over 1.5 pounds. I know most blowback calcs will call for 1.7 but I want a little extra mobility in the cycle to account for some of the reset pressure the FCG exerts on the bolt.

Can you please try to read? Just...try?

>>34050268
bolt should be closer to 1.7 pounds
momentum of bolt = momentum of projectile + momentum of gas
mbolt * vbolt = mbullet * vbullet + mgas * vgas

pressure on bolt face = pressure on bullet back

Since pressure = force / area, the forces on the bolt face and bullet will differ by the ratios of their areas.
force on bolt face / area of bolt face = force on bullet base / area of bullet base
or
force on bolt face = force on bullet base * (area of bolt face / area of bullet base)

momentum of bolt = momentum of bullet * (area of bolt face / area of bullet base)

The area of a circle is of course pi * radius2, or pi/4 * diameter2, so this is equal to:
momentum of bolt = momentum of bullet * (diameter of bolt face / diameter of bullet base)2

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>>34050258
>>34049787
KEK yeah I just scroll down and see that prototype and goddamn son, you are a fucking sperg.
I'm gonna laugh myself to sleep thinking about how fucking stupid you are.
>You have no clue what I do or don't have. End of discussion.
Fucking pathetic. Talk about degeneracy when this stupid fuck makes a pretty model in autodesk and thinks he's fucking John Browning or some kind of clever artist.
The world needs another blowback 9mm like it needs another fucking retard manufacturing firearms in his shed with the intent to sell them to autists on the internet.
Your daddy should have hit you more,boy. You are a damn sight to behold.

>>34050304

Yeah man, you aren't bringing anything new to the table here.

You also aren't accounting for travel distance and force dissipation.

http://www.orions-hammer.com/blowback/

>>34050326
Just trying to help. You don't have to be such an asshol... oh wait I forgot where I was

>>34050321

Ok, anything else to add?

>>34050337

I'm not being an asshole dude, if you read my post you would know that I already said what you said before you commented, in the post you referenced.

>>34050300
Not significant enough to matter. Not only that inertia to contain pressure at that critical moment only matters for a split second.

All that matters is immediate inertia. We did this in first year engineering. Holy fuck.

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>>34050300
Double word score!

Will it come pre-coated?
Any possibility of making versions for other commonly available mags once this gets off the ground?
You ever worry about posting all this shit to facebook and getting fucked because of that?

>>34050356

Right, and if the bolt allows for an extra length of travel from normal, what will the result be in a 9mm cartridge?

Nothing. Literally nothing.

>>34050403

What do you mean, getting fucked? How? I'm not doing anything illegal.

Yes, it will come completely finished and painted.

>>34050404
I guess there's nothing I can say to put pressure into perspective. Have fun losing something to >lol 9mm

>>34050415
All it takes it one dumbass seeing guns being made by a private party for a horrible misunderstanding to occur.
But hey, if you checked your laws and such, I have no reason to doubt you.
Are parts gonna be outsourced to other people or are they all gonna be made in house?

>>34050337

>forgetting he's on a Colombian calligraphy chat room

Get a load of this goy

>>34050427

No, you are just paranoid as fuck. Ask 9mm chambered AR people about out of battery fires and the like, happens all the time. If the case bulges, I'll increase the weight, this is semantics at this point.
>>34050431

I'm making something for myself that I will eventually get license for and sell. That's all, I fail to see the problem.

>>34050606
Alright alright, you got your shit set legally, I get that.
Anyways, I hope something comes out of this.
Don't die or quit or anything like that.

this guy legitimately thinks he's got something worth patenting to call a "trade secret" top kek

>>34050726
Technically, there is a very important distinction between patents and trade secrets.

>>34049230
Would you approve of folks making 3D models of your design for video game mods?
Like replacing SMGs in CSGO/CSS/L4D2/Insurgency with your gun?

For those of us who live in Cuckstates, do you have any intention of making a Cuckstate compliant model to fight for 2a everywhere?

I want a Pepe in MA.

>>34050631

I won't man, seeing it through!

>>34050805

He can't understand
>>34050904

No, it wouldn't bother me at all

>>34050945

Yes, there will be a NY CA etc compliant version.

>>34039621
/k/ is so easy to troll

>>34050945
I don't remember how many times have I seen this bullshit thread, it's always the meme autist itself or some newfag going "ayy check this out" then it's him replying to fucking everybody in the same format, easily generating a hundred (you)s within a day or two. At this point I wouldn't even bother to reply even to sage, but there's alway these people, who doesn't read the fucking thread, doesn't know what the fuck is going on, looks at the title and be like "oh my god 4chan cheap gun I want so much give me that delicious cock"

There's something morbid about teasing cucks like them with an empty promise, there will be more of them, begging, asking all kinds of irrelevant questions about this fantasy gun, with no conclusion in sight.

>actual homemade weapon threads get deleted
>this shrieking manchilds shilling stays
Mods were a mistake.

>>34051087
>when homemade weapons threads don't get deleted, they're just derailed by "le atf plz" and "hope you don't own no dogs op xDDD"
Can't even talk hypothetically without those morons shitting up the thread.

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>>34049530

>>34048912
>Straight blowback.
>Sten + AR-180
what did he mean by this?

>>34051397
>what did he mean by this?
Uhh, captive main spring maybe? Who know's what's going on in this faggot's head, apart from "everyone's JIDF!!"

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>>34049281
>>34051050
>Under 200$

>>34051451
>I'd love to buy whatever you're on.
32332113 confirmed for JIDF.

See?! He was persecuted from DAY ONE over his $50 dollar gun from an FFL, and free plans for everyone to build in an hour.

I mean who wouldn't want a $100 dollar parts kit not from an FFL, that snaps together in half an hour!

It's just the Jews smearing his good, honest name that prevents people from owning this secret $200 gun that'll be endorsed by a world famous person any day now!

>>34048912
>he still hasn't adressed multiple flaring flaws since the last time
At least it comes in colors other than FDE now.

>>34049048
>IWI
>he legit believes that a established multimillion weapons company pays for shitposting on a Zimbabwean rat-frying forum to discredit him
Lmaoing @ ur life.

>>34049087
There are guys on /k/, from /k/, doing what he's doing ony better and without the memes. A tripfag called BreekiBro is one of them- he made a 16" sten copy which is pretty damned accurate, but he doesn't go around calling his gun a meme, shitposting about how he'll take the market by storm, or getting buttblasted about simpe questions.
I for one dislike this fag because he's cancer, not because of his carbine idea.

>>34049530
>the fucking charging handle groove isn't straight
Congratulations, in 6th grade I was making more complicated assemblies with better finish.

>>34049702
>I'm highly educated in a STEM field, I have multiple literal Aerospace engineers at my disposal should I need them.
Let me guess, you're also a Navy Seal with over 300 confirmed kills.

>>34051527
Yeah, but the important thing is, he's not doing it with a Dremel! That surely means he's got something even better, even if he doesn't know how to use it!

>>34048693
I remember expressing my doubts and anons were swearing up and down it's totally happening.

It's very similar to bullshit kickstarter campaigns. They don't look at the important shit like have they done something like this in the past, do they have experience bringing any product to market, do they even have the capability to mass produce their thing even if they can make one. People don't think critically they only see something they want and all other logic goes out the window.

>>34049882
>It's a prototype dude. It's not pretty atm.
I'm a new arrival to your thread(s) but what the fuck are you prototyping exactly? The action? Part fitting? I just don't understand how you expected to present... that... and then expect it to stick in a climate of increasing hostility toward you and your project.

That looks like a piece of shit and your progress (based off of facebook updates) is not really remarkable enough to make up for that. Why didn't you make a wooden mockup? Wax? Something that looked more professional and invoked less of the same emotions a viewer would have playing Fallout 4. On console.

I'm not sure why you're not putting the effort into building an injection molding machine and presenting a polymer design. I just don't get it. If you have the tools to actually produce a run of firearms you easily have the ability to build a decently-sized injection molder.

Personally, to me, I feel like you're either a fraud or wildly underestimating the task ahead of you. I don't know which is real, I'm not going to decide either way, but I do know for certain you've made some very poor decisions regarding your presentation. Maybe cut back on the attitude a bit? It isn't necessary to act like this, and it's hurting you. Maybe hold off on updates, put the nose to the grindstone, and present something interesting and visually appealing?

You're not just designing a firearm, you're trying to convince people to buy it too.

>>34049530
So you're making a blowback pipe gun in an Airsoft shell? Jeeze, anon. Really taking the market by storm. Make it compatible with Airsoft m4 shells and laugh as every Airsoft gun is banned from sale.

>>34049832
The cringe.....too...much....must...kill....paaaeeaggeee

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>>34051597
>Why didn't you make a wooden mockup? Wax? Something that looked more professional
aHEM, what do you call >pic related, this exquisite work of art produced by a thousand master craftsmen over a period of MONTHS?!

>>34051597
He isn't even the one starting up threads about the gun anymore, he just goes where the shitposts flow.

>>34051493
This 2bh.
The more he reads, the more he sees that he was completely unrealistic. But it can't be his fault, or that /k/ thinks he's dumb, or that hi-point already cornered the ultra cheap market, or that he has no idea what he's getting into in terms of engineering, no. It's the Jews.

Seeiously, you can buy secondhand hi point carbines for only slightly more, and they're reputable and have an impressive warranty. I'd be willing to pay the extra 200$ for the peace of mind knowing that the designers of my gun were competent.

>>34051622
I'd buy his gun just to see how well it actually works. This whole is just making me incredibly curious.

>>34051617
... That.. is not what I was referring to when I said, "wooden mockup." At all. I meant a physical representation of the final product (or what it's expected to be, designs can change in development) that ideally cycles and demonstrates that the parts work correctly.

>>34051619
That doesn't change the fact that he's not handling criticism very well. Warfairy is on here (or at least he was the last time I browsed /k/) and, despite being a bit of a fucking sperg, handles things with far more tact and grace.

>>34051617
wow fuc, this guy is actually retarded or underage.

There is no way ANY businessperson would present such garbage.

>>34051634
Yeah. He doesn't need to respond to every single criticism or insult, but when he does he ought to handle it a bit better.

To be fair I see the intent. But it's just not gonna work.

If make it in the $200+ range you're in the territory where you can just get a Hi-point or something better for a few extra dollars. To combat this you'll need to have distributors everywhere which noobs won't have. If you sell online then there's shipping which can add 10% or more to the price (making a Hi-Point even more attractive) or seriously cut into profits since the pricing margin is so slim.

If you make it cheaper, you need to sell a LOT of them and you'll need the capacity to make a LOT of them, there's many well known brands that don't have this capability so they focus on more expensive guns.

Best possible hope, create a working prototype. Work the bugs out. Patent it. And try to sell the design to someone with the capability.

>>34051050
Question about the CAD concept goal: What is that central pylon supposed to do? The one in between the grip and the butt of the stock.

>>34051634
>[...] that ideally cycles and demonstrates that the parts work correctly.
There you go again J-IWI-DF, shilling for your Zionist puppetmasters!

>>34051672
>What is that central pylon supposed to do? The one in between the grip and the butt of the stock.
It was probably recommended by one of the several aerospace engineers he knows.

>>34051643
I just don't understand why somebody would go, "you know what, I'm going to make a 4chan gun!" and then go on the weapons board with a mediocre presentation. Then, when laughed at, this same person doesn't ignore the insults and instead responds with a calm, reasonable and no-bullshit answer to everyone else. He doesn't do that.

I do understand that /pol/ and /k/ have overlaps, but... Well, come on. I mean, at some point a reasonable man has to step back and recognize that /pol/ is mostly foreigners who can't buy his product, so the potential customers aren't going to be easily won over with silly banter of that containment board. I'm not going to actually spend money on a "Pepe Liberator" even if it was the original fifty dollars.

>>34051677
There's also this. Why would I spend money on something made by a guy who insults his customers, acts like there's some bizarre Jewish conspiracy against him, and is offering a product I could build myself anyway?

>>34051695
its easy to take shit personally when people are critical about something you made yourself. Its a term for "artists" i'm sure.

also the internet isn't known to be super supportive as simply posting a response to anything has a good possibility of invoking death threats to your person

>>34051702
I fully understand that, even presenting something to a table full of suits is kind of tough.

At some point though the neat ____ you made is going to hit reality, which means that somebody, somewhere is going to dislike it. This is not something he made for himself, it's a product he's pushing and he's using the development process as marketing. Taking criticism hard and responding accordingly costs artists commissions, musicians gigs, and so on.

As for your other point I have to ask, who the hell threatened the guy's life here? If anything a few posts are saying the exact opposite by warning that he could hurt himself or others.

>>34051718
>who the hell threatened the guy's life here?

i was being facetious

>>34051695
>Well, come on. I mean, at some point a reasonable man has to step back and recognize that /pol/ is mostly foreigners who can't buy his product
>"Pepe Liberator"
The thing that I find funny, is it's supposed to be inspired by civil resistance guns, right? Yet the design runs completely counter to it.

As far as I can tell at this point, he's set on designing something that he will manufacture and sell, with no provisions for easy modifications that break the law (eg. converting it to select-fire), no provisions for it to be easily manufactured by people who can't obtain it, either within the United States or overseas.

So if you're going to operate well within the law, with a nice, comfy buffer, and the thing is probably going to be as expensive as other (better) guns, who the fuck are you planning on liberating, apart from your fingers?

The whole thing is pointless from a commercial and an ideological perspective.

But fuck it, memes amirite?

>>34051677
>>34051695
Fuck off, I'm not interested in you being butthurt about him not liking hooknoses. Still waiting for the answer.

>>34051744
>m- muh butthertz!!
We're mocking him for covering up his incompetence with an extremely transparent, imagined conspiracy, we don't care about who he does or does not like.

>>34039291
All I want know is if the creator is south african or just larps as one

>>34051766
Pretty sure he only uses Dutch/Afrikaans because muh Rhodesia, I don't think he ever claimed to be South African.

>>34051736
you were being fascist

>>34051742
>The thing that I find funny, is it's supposed to be inspired by civil resistance guns, right? Yet the design runs completely counter to it.
I imagine with the way he's going about it my polymer suggestion probably would be a better way to go. Actually a complete "this is how I made a polymer gun at home" from start to finish would be a really neat project, from designing and building the machines to actually using the completed firearm. Doing that with stamped steel would be even cooler, probably just as useful, but as it sits now this is a commercial venture.

Even so, as you said the entire thing is a bit pointless. No matter which way this is examined (even my polymer suggestion falls under that) somebody, somewhere has done it better. Without sufficient volume the unit price is still going to be higher than competing designs.

I just don't see it.

>>34051744
>Fuck off, I'm not interested in you being butthurt about him not liking hooknoses. Still waiting for the answer.
I'm... not? Frankly I don't give a damn what the hell you're interested in.

As for "the answer" I'd need a goddamn question first.

>>34051766
>>34051788

Never larped as one; and the idea that someone would literally learn another language soley because of muh Rhodesia is pretty bizzare, my dude.

Waroom jy will ken, jy is Afrikaans se praat?

>>34051820
>the idea that someone would literally learn another language soley because of muh Rhodesia is pretty bizzare, my dude.
It's not the only bizarre idea you'd have had.

I'm just going to say this

>Some dude, who claimed to be from IWI, commented on the project.
>I made a harmless joke, revved him the wrong way
>Usually Israelis are pretty cool, this guy wasn't
>He assured me he would "get me" or some bullshit
>In the following weeks I notice a set number of talking points, word for word
>Some of the talking points would be posted in a way that it would have been impossible for one IP to have been posting them that fast.
>Someone emails me later and apologizes for the conduct of his peers, says he will talk to him

I have a good reason to feel how I feel, it's not a conspiracy, I really don't even care that much. Other people have spoken on here about similar instances in the past.

That's all I'm going to say about that, say whatever you like.

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>>34039621
>people are responding seriously to this post
/k/, please

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>>34051834
proofs.

>>34050321
>t. there will be blood.
>>34050342
stay out of his market waaaaaaaaaaaah

General comment,

>This is not a finished product
>I have disclaimed that fact multiple times
>I didn't make this thread
>OP asked me to comment, I did
>I'm not delusional, underage, trolling or LARPing
>I don't hate Jewish people, but I will absolutely call whatever I see like I see it.

>>34051742

> no provisions for easy modifications that break the law (eg. converting it to select-fire)

That's explicitly illegal dude, read some ATF and NFA rulings some time. If I were to do that, and then subsequently tell you about it, it would disqualify me being able to sell the gun due to being readily convertible. So either you are trolling, or not as slick as you thought.

Luckily I live in America, where I can do these things without fear, I don't need to break the law. Goodday sir.

>>34051867

YOUR GUNSHAKE SIR *dips finger, slurps* I DRINK IT UP

>literally arguing with mentally disturbed person.
You people should find something else to do.

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Listen guys, when it's done, and I come back on the board and say, "Well, this is me" and post the finished prototype video, and exclaim it will be available for sale at 1XX dollars, and you absolutely HATE it; that is valid. It's valid, you hate it. For xyz, there is no asspain over that.

But the constant shilling for whatever preconceived notion you have about me, my capability, resources, etc...it's petty. If you aren't Breeki, Warfairy, etc; keep your weapons engineering LARP to yourself, please. I'm the one actually doing it, you are armchairing on an internet forum about how it won't ever work...while I'm working on it.

>Pic related, it's me; and I'm cool with that.

>>34051875
You're in the right for not answering questions, wouldn't want IWI stealing your aeroapace engineeting genius, right?

>>34051834
Sounds like you got trolled pretty hard.
Tell me, what sounds more likely:
>A troll on an anonymous Laotian archaeology board decides to troll a meme-spouting sperg by pretending to orchestrate a conspiracy against him
Or
>The conspiracy is real, because the memegun is a real threat to the established firearms industry.
Another alternative:
>All the 'repeating talking points' are actually different anons all seeing the same problems with the design, which are never fixed. Memeguy is just a spreg who sees a conspiracy.
Take your pills and chill.
>inb4 claiming I'm part of the IWI-JIDF conspiracy

>>34051876

What grounds have led you to the conclusion? Anything?

>>34051891

The most likely thing is that an incident report was generated and sent to ShareBlue/CTR, some other NGO that spends millions a year on stupid bullshit just like this. What will happen beyond that? Absolutely nothing, and I never claimed otherwise.

>>34051901
you really fell for the /pol/ meme did you?

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>>34051884
>>Pic related, it's me; and I'm cool with that.
Delusions of adequacy.
>he actually claims he's not the butthurt one
>tells guys who've done more than him that they're LARPing
Dumb /pol/ack goes on /k/, shitposts about guns, gets BTFO, doesn't feel good and changes-ASSPAIN. Many such cases!

>>34051910

If you would allow me to simply impart a small parcel of knowledge on you, good sir:

/pol/ is always right.

Every time you doubt /pol/, you only do a disservice to yourself. If you would allow me to simply impart a second small parcel of knowledge on you:

/pol/: You are here forever.
>>34051913

You forgot to add the "SAD!"

I think you also meant, "Delusions of Grandeur."

>>34051913

You don't find it interesting that all of the sudden everyone on /k/ is a metal shop journeyman who can make mill cuts with a dremel? Just me? Ok.

>>34051932
After this well thought out post I am now convinced of your ability to produce an outstanding firearm and you can rely on me to purchase 10 units as soon as it is possible.

>>34051901
Boy, you must really think highly of yourself if you think option 2 is more likely than 1 or 3.
Even assuming that CTR/SB were sent a report, do you seriously think they have time to come here and argue with you over this shite? They can barely manage to flood /pol/ with slide threads and "really makes you think" single-post bait threads, do you honestly think that your pet project justifies personal, concentrated, high-effort shilling? Get a grip on reality before you lose your fingers.

>>34051932
>You forgot to add the "SAD!"
>I think you also meant, "Delusions of Grandeur."
I checked, the Autism tweet has no "SAD".
And no, I most definitely mean adequacy.

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>>34051884
>But the constant shilling for whatever preconceived notion you have about me, my capability, resources, etc...it's petty. If you aren't Breeki, Warfairy, etc; keep your weapons engineering LARP to yourself, please. I'm the one actually doing it, you are armchairing on an internet forum about how it won't ever work...while I'm working on it.

Not once have I said it wouldn't work, and it's a bit insulting that you're telling me, of all people, to be quiet. I suggested polymer because it's cheaper, you are -not- going to sell these for under two hundred dollars unless you've figured out how to source materials better than actual manufacturers. Do you have a supply of free steel? I simply don't see you producing anything remotely resembling that prototype for that price. This takes time, too, which takes labor. What are you factoring in for that? If you plan to manufacture these in any significant amount you have to have floor space somewhere, and since you've mentioned a few machines in your posts it's clear you're going to need a space wired for it. How are you paying for electricity? What are you using for tools? Your tooling is going to wear, and since it's obvious you're not going to be making hundreds of thousands of these (holy dogshit I hope you're not expecting that) that means you're skimping on the tooling, so... What? How are you even manufacturing this? Or planning to? Are you designing it to be manufactured quickly and efficiently? That's very important, your one-off is clearly not designed for mass production in any way. When are you testing that? How are you going to test that? You... are going to test that right?

Again, drop the fucking attitude. It's quite obvious that you don't know what you're doing here and when people in the industry of making stuff, whatever stuff it might be, are pointing these things out you have no room to say they're "larping."

Shut the fuck up and listen, we do know what we're talking about.

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>>34051893
>What grounds have led you to the conclusion?
Remember that time you pretended to not be you, even though your autistic posting style is so transparently obvious, but instead invented the first person pronoun 'X' instead of, oh I dunno, using 'he' and 'him'?

>X hope X see you sometime. X know it's you.
>X like that you follow along, X just wonder what your motivation is. X do think about it from time to time. X suspect JDIF, in all seriousness, over a simple joke.

https://desuarchive.org/k/search/username/Pepe/start/2017-01-23/end/2017-01-25/order/asc/

Yeah, maybe shit like that's why people think you're mentally ill...

>>34051933
>everyone on /k/
Have you considered the option that maybe it isn't everyone on /k/ responding, but only those with relevant experience?
And considering how many here have dremeled out 80% recievers, chances are that they have sufficient skill to make a straight cut in a fucking pipe.

>>34051947

"Again, drop the fucking attitude."

Or what, dude? What are you going to do? We are on the internet.

That post wasn't even directed at you, or anyone in particular.

" It's quite obvious that you don't know what you're doing"

If that's the case, why continue to keep posting? Seriously, if this is beneath you then don't waste your time. I have no idea of your credentials, just as you have no idea of mine.

"Shut the fuck up and listen, we do know what we're talking about."

So your word is good on an anonymous internet forum? Awesome, I'll certainly keep that in mind.

>>34051953

You can't dremel an 80% lower, at least not aluminum ones, and plastic would be an absolute clusterfuck; you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

>>34051952

You mean when every single one of my IP's were banned and had someone talking for me? That's mental illness?

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>>34051834
The guys who make this are apparently orchestrating a global conspiracy against your out of fear of your rusty fucking pipe.

Also I've never seen an OP samefag as aggressively as you. Or at least I assume that's what happening because I refuse to believe that even on 4chan you could find multiple people that retarded.

>>34051947

Wait a minute, I remember you....Ah yes.

>>34051975

No, it was a guy who claimed to be Israeli, and worked at IWI. I never implied it was IWI, only..."IWI guy." If I gave off that impression, I apologize.

>>34048912
will I be able to replace that god awful stock?

>>34049394
Why shoulndt I just by a hi capacity truck it has alot of better kill record.

>>34051947
>expecting him to take any actual critcism or advice
At absolute best all you'll get is him pretending to have come up with the idea at a later date once he realizes "oh wait the current design is pants on head retarded"

>>34051947

And what did I tell you last time? I have the space at my disposal, as well as electricity, etc.

You don't find it all all odd that you are trying to hash out with me how I'm going to afford space and electricity, which are, for your intensive purposes...so, so very far out of scope of the discussion?

>>34051980

Read thread, probably not going with the Polymer stock. Stamped steel.

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>>34051978
>backtracking just like you did on the $50 price tag

>>34051970
>you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
People regularly dremel 80% polymer recievers. Which implies that they at least know how to properly fit a workpiece into a jig and use tools, which is more than can be said for your effort. You haven't just missed the point, you deliberately dodged it.
>You mean when every single one of my IP's were banned
Have you considered that maybe you were banned for a reason? Such as being cancer incarnate?

>>34052004

I never backtracked on anything, I'm sorry the final price didn't line up with what it is now, I've given super clear and concise prices at this point.

I was merely trying to help you understand the context of a comment. Take it or leave it.

>>34052010

I mean, you could melt a polymer lower with red hot steel too, it would probably look about the same, jig or no jig.

>>34051991
>intensive purposes
For fuck's sake

>>34052010
No da joos paid hiro himself to personally ban me

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>>34051970
>"""""had someone talking for me"""""

>That's mental illness?
Yes, depersonalisation or dissociation is a symptom of mental illness.

Also paranoid delusions, eg.

Persecutory delusions
>online, coordinated Jewish-led conspiracies

Grandiose delusions
>exaggerated beliefs of self-worth and knowledge/ability
>belief that you have the assistance of aerospace engineers

Overall, I would recommend trying out medication such as Olanzapine (Zyprexa) to see if they alleviate your symptoms. Otherwise, more radical treatments may be considered.

>>34039603
>I've been here for 11 years now

tfw you realize you've been here for 7 years

>>34052020
You're dodging the point and you know it.
The point being, there are sufficent people on /k/ with the capability of cutting a straight line to fill a thread laughing at your inability to do the same.
We are talking machining skill.
You lack it.
Others have it.
They laugh at you.
And then you go around claiming that they're paid shills.
Get it?

>>34052025

>There are 3 people on my team.
>My best childhood friend works for Lockheed-Martin
>Went to HS with other people who are Aero engineers, one is at NASA
>Shareblue spent over 6 million dollars in 2016, with much of it being directed a 4chan, who regularly taunted them with mail
>I'm highly educated

A medical professional would never blanket recommend a drug without background information. I can do this all day, breh.

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>>34051964
>Or what, dude? What are you going to do? We are on the internet.
See? This. This, right here. This is the kind of thing that will tank your project before you deliver a single unit.

You puff up your chest, breathe through your nose really hard, and then grunt at me, "so what are you gonna do about it!?" Laugh at you. I'm going to laugh, because I, and others, have gave you a fair warning and you've acted like a spoiled child.

>That post wasn't even directed at you, or anyone in particular.
No, it was directed at everyone and, since I saw you included things only I said in it, I responded to it.

>I have no idea of your credentials, just as you have no idea of mine.
I know your auto body experience certainly doesn't compare to my two decades of, quite literally, living in a machine shop. I haven't addressed the dremel controversy yet but do you really not know how to use one? A straight cut is not some arcane sorcery, you should not be surprised by that.

Dumb. I don't need to know your credentials to know you're talking out of your ass.

>So your word is good on an anonymous internet forum? Awesome, I'll certainly keep that in mind.
I really don't care if you do or not, my conscience is quite clear and I've given you all the warning to shape up.

>>34051976
This is my first interaction with you directly and you've done a fan-fucking-tastic job of making sure I do not have an iota of respect for you.

>>34051989
Well, savvy /k/illers will include my post in a screenshot proving he's full of shit.

>>34051991
>And what did I tell you last time?
>last time
This is the -third- time you've replied to my post and the second time you've implied we've had a previous conversation.

Please, to whomever is capping this:

Include this post and my cute pic related that I'm including for your enjoyment. I hope you smile, and then whisper, "Hi, Baby Godzilla," as you think about this dumb, dumb /pol/ack who thinks Hillary/the Jews/liberals are keeping him down.

>>34052030

That slot is straight I'll have you know. There is one light in the room and it's offset, it was cut on a mill.

>>34052044
>That slot is straight I'll have you know. There is one light in the room and it's offset, it was cut on a mill.
Easy to prove, then.

Take a picture of the slot next to machinist square, on the mill.

>>34052042

You know full well that we have spoken before. Your writing, content, and point set is just like before, you even mentioned electricity, which I found to be extremely odd when you did it the first time.

" I've given you all the warning to shape up."
" sure I do not have an iota of respect for you."

You are the one speaking as if your opinion of me has any....any bearing on my life. It doesn't. Yet...here we are, you trying to browbeat me into listening to you, while I've told you I don't know you, you aren't making good points, and I really don't give a shit.

What do you want? What is it?

>>34052053

That's ok; I'm not going to dance the jig.

I'd put you over my knee and spank you, before showing you my mill.

See, that's mill humor.

>>34051834
I was one of the people you claimed were part of IWI after I dug up old posts of you saying shit you later claimed never happened. That was right around the time you started claiming something like six guys were one person and the JIDF was after you because of your 'brilliant' design.

Also when you got canned for promoting this dumb shit, all your posts got scrubbed off one thread and then your equally butt blasted 'friend' came in. You got BTFO off the board for being a fucking spergs and somehow you expect things to be different now?

>>34052070

What shit? You just said you dug it up, what was it? Where are the proofs?


"That was right around the time you started claiming something like six guys were one person and the JIDF was after you"

There were multiple people shilling the same points in every single thread I made in the past. JDIF, who fucking knows, but something was clearly going on.

>>34051978
You are like 15 years old. Someone who is
>highly educated in a STEM field
and has
>multiple literal Aerospace engineers at my disposal should I need them
cannot be this blind at the transformation from CAD designs to product, or mind-blowingly, autisticly horrible at rhetoric and all verbal communication.

>>34048912
Where did your inspiration from the '180 go into this design?

>>34052076
>something was clearly going on.
Yes, it was you acting like a retard, ignoring advice, and getting anally annihilated when you got shit-talked over it.

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>>34052060
So he's probably right then, the line wasn't cut straight.

Figures, because the sheet metal on the... lower receiver thing? definitely wasn't cut straight.

>>34049230
>buy your gun
Post manufactured examples show ATF approval and FFLs and I'll buy two. Until then, shut up and stop posting examples you made in CAD. Is it cool? Yeah. A real sample would be cooler.

>>34052056
Not that anon but perhaps the content is the same because they're a consistent concern and issue people have with your project

I need to sleep.

End of story, I'm a reasonable guy, some of you don't have an interest in that being true for whatever reason, troll, butthurt, w/e. Second reminder I didn't make this thread, but I will when I'm done. At that point, let the hate flow, I'l pepper my angus for it.

>>34042130
fuck off neet

>>34052104

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to sell them before that, so, that's no problem.

>>34052098

No, I did fuck that part up a little to be honest. They were saying the bolt travel slot wasn't straight, which it is. Fair enough on that.

>>34050116
Way to dodge the question about your steel piping.
Show the rifling retard, you didnt say you made a shitty slamfire 8mm out of piping you are jerking yourself off over your "Prototype", a word I use very loosely here.

Show you even have an actual barrel, it looks like steel piping from home depot, but you wont, youll probably just ignore this, and dodge the question.

SHOW THE RIFLING.