Who else here loves the 80s and 90s aesthetic

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Me nigga. If I was home I could fill this thread with hundreds of aesthetics

>>34033524
hhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggg

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>>34033521
>Pre-rail/molle/digital camo
Fuck yes I do, those three things basically destroyed aesthetics.

>>34033533

God I miss Air Force BDUs.

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>>34033524
This guy looks like he posing for an album cover

>>34033524
why are only three wearing camouflage paint?

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>>34033521
60's was the best

>>34033626
Those are the direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians. They have the genetic advantage of having permanent built in night camo paint.

>>34033754
WE WUZ CAMOFLAGUE N' SHIET

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>>34033521
These are from the early 2000s for the local NG when the governor issued another order to aid police in attacking syndicates when they were undermanned and outgunned.

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>>34033774

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>>34033783
The 2004 crime wave really isn't as bad as the ones in the 90s. The NG was much more of an inprovement since the locals distrusted the police but loved the military, so there was more compliance

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>>34033790
To this date, the NG still assists the local police during patrols and operations, just that they're recently backing away since the FBI has done a cleansing already against the police and there are more recruits to make up for the lack of man power

>>34033524
Are these russians? What the?

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>>34033819
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilisation_Force_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina

>>34033524

Seriously why did we ditch woodland? It works, it has an air of professionalism and sobriety and looks cool.

The new outfits look like they're pajamas for tards and roadside workers.

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>>34034601
>joined too late for aesthetic as fuck BDU's
>joined to early for the probable service wide switch to OCP's

It hurts to think about. BDU's are just so classic. Black short and black boots are so much better than tan shit. To make matters worse I'm in the Airforce so I have the worst uniform in the galaxy, the ABU.

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>>34033521
Love the aesthetic and the technology, it's my favorite time period for the military in general.

>>34033521
Chocolate chip camo best camo.

>>34034910
Why are you including a pic of the present day Indian Army?

>>34034733
just a wild guess, but did you serve during this time?
what i remember most about this time ( picture related) was wearing those damn masks.
one of the main reasons i never reenlisted were those masks and mopp gear.

>>34035002
>but did you serve during this time?
I didn't honestly. Most of it comes from video games, movies, and acquaintances that did serve during that time.

>>34034681
Currently in fag here
Everyone wears OCPs now
Everyone
Unless you are a shitbag

>>>34034681
Oh shit, didn't read, my bad anon thought you were Army for a minute

>>34034986
looks pretty 90's ish

>>34034910
>endor helmets
>a steel pot from the looks of it
>more than 1 mag

insane!

Watching indian border guards patrol thousands of miles of land with one beretta cx4 storm mag is insane.

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Desert DPM is the superior camo

>>34034681
What? It's not too early for OCPs, I see them every where now.

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>>34035141
I remember in elementary school in the library I'd always browse through the same encyclopedia type books of the Vietnam war, gulf war, and other conflicts; probably Bosnia. I think I ended up conditioning myself to the OD/BDU aesthetic. Everyone else was busy trying to read Harry Potter, I had the cool shit to myself.

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It was a cool looking period.

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>>34033521
STALKER makes good use of those type of aesthetics.

>>34033524
when the world was in a simpler time

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What do we call this type of aesthetic? It was before multicam ruined everything

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>>34036516
Are you me?
>tfw Wikipedia and YouTube videos about weapons and gear practically replaced my need to look at girls

>>34038477
>just a little UCP famalam, not too much
>here take a ranger green shirt and foliage green chest rig, nigga
>Tyrese dont forget the tan helmet
>we look /fa/ as fuck
>where the hajis at

>>34033521
I do
I especially love 80s/90s SWAT aesthetics

>>34033582
>This guy looks like he posing for an album cover
coz that's a real man, not a fucking beta pussyfag.

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Yeah

>>34038477
That's the "Iraq Surge Rangers desperately trying to minimize their fuckawful issued camo pattern" look.

You can bitch about multicam being boring, but from the POV of somebody who has to wear stuff in combat it is massively better than fucking mooncamo.

I feel fucking old now that UCP is considered "retro", but I'll tell you that everybody I know did every damn thing they possibly could to minimize it. They hung onto their DCUs and BDUs until they were actively forced to switch uniforms. They continued to wear old camo helmet covers or wore painted helmets. They wore vests and pouches in any pattern but UCP. They tried bending regs and wearing old wet or cold weather gear in a different pattern.

Rangers had the flexibility of being issued all RG colored vests and pouches, and getting away quite early only with painted helmets.

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>>34038812

Any reason why rangers tended to do away with helmet covers in favor of painting them?

>>34039073
It's easier to attach velcro for doodads and big NOD plates than if you have a standard ACH cover.

In terms of camo, if you're only issued a UCP cover, taking it off and painting your helmet at least gives you a helmet that isn't a shitty color.

Last thing is that the military is autistic about regs and everything being the same. Being able to paint your helmet gives a little bit of a moto bump. Literally anything that allows you to do something non-standard is nice, and actually painting a helmet gives you a measure of customized personalization.

>>34033521
Truly the best time to have been in the military

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Metal Gear: Desert Storm when?

>>34039235
>NTC

Gross.

>>34034733
>gas masks
>in the fucking desert

I feel so bad for those guys

>>34039324
What's worse is that it's:
>GasMasks
>Literally no other ProGear and wearing rolled up sleeves

Training for maximum discomfort AND failure.

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>camo BDUs
>PASGT
>M16A1
>80s/early90s mustaches

The only thing I would like better would be an M1 helmet, but the PASGT does have a certain appeal. Otherwise this image is perfect

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I like the 80's mixture of Vietnam era gear with the new BDUs and upcoming gear. It had a distinct modernization feeling to me.

I recently saved a bunch of pics from the National Archives, they have some good stuff.

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>>34039355
How about chocolate chip and M1s?

>>34039390
the guy on the left looks like Will Farrell

>>34033537
>God I miss Air Force BDUs.

Yes. Hot weather BDU was most comfortable BDU. Only OG 507 green utilities were more comfortable in hot weather, and were also much less expensive so if you fucked 'em up on the flightline you could replace them without raping your clothing allowance.

Desert boots however are most comfy boot. Fuck wearing gloss black anything in the heat. Jungle boots were closest so I bought them for hot weather wear with BDUs.

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>>34039324

I served in the 80s. In the middle of the day, 29 Palms in the Mojave Desert, temp at ground level 138 to 142 degrees in the sun, would have to go full MOPP and run through exercises. Would sweat so bad you couldn't see and would have to constantly unseal your mask so it could drain.

Had a Marine go down after an hour or so of exercises, called for Medivac, CO made everyone stay in full MOPP, 4 guys carrying him to Helo, one of them goes down, I ran out to take his place. Got the first Marine in and as we were going back for the second, another Marine went down. Pretty stupid considering there wasn't ice water or any corpsmen on standby.

Finally were told to get the MOPP gear off. Everyone was alright, but our poor Chaplain was conducting services in the field that Sunday and had a heat stroke and died later in the hospital.

My favorite then and now. Green dominant ERDL. It's all I ever wore except for winter. That ERDL tropical weight ripstop was a life saver.

>>34039459
Do they still do that? Forcing soldiers to move in full kit in the hottest place in the world sounds distinctly like a Central American doctrine of
>Torture? It's training!
You can't walk off a heat stroke.

>>34039459
That's horrible. Even the Air Force did 12-hour MOPP 4 fun but we didn't actively try to kill our own troops by heat exhaustion.

Fuck the M-17 gas mask and the idiotic rubber booties, since replaced with standard rubber overboots because some sharp fellow figured out they are chem resistant.

>>34039509
They need to because you may have to fight in those environments.

Don't forget Iraq used chems against Iran and the entire Communist bloc had mustard and nerve agents. If you don't train that's a great way to guarantee you'll get smegged when you least expect it.

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>tfw you will never be old school delta

>>34039494
Great photo.

Guy on cot is presumably "dead". I always preferred to be a dead guy over being wounded since you got to chill while awaiting pickup. QA were nice enough to kill me a couple of times.

>>34039544
Endurance and force of will < relative hydration; no one can fight thermodynamics, the hardest cunt and the weakest runt are still going to pass out when they're dehydrated and overheated.

>>34039682
That's why you train but with reasonable precautions. You could certainly stay hydrated in an M17 mask with a drinking tube, and wise G.I.s froze a couple of canteens where practical. I did.

In extreme heat, train with work-rest cycles.

However if your supervisors fail to provision enough water and enforce hydration bad shit happens. As far back as Viet Nam mandatory hydration was practiced by intelligent leaders. Stop, drink X amount, press on.

>>34039387

>those service revolvers

Truly, 80s Air Force was the best Air Force.

>>34039509
>>34039518

That was the worst time. New CO was going to impress us with how hardcore he was.

MOPPing up was pretty standard. Usually you would just do normal patrols or sit in fighting holes and sweat and try to use the broken water tube that your canteen didn't have a fitting for.

This time it was full blown PT, which the CO watched but didn't join in on. May or not have been related but he was gone a couple of months later.

Not a horrible idea to stress test everyone but you better have some ice water, shade, and corpsmen on standby when folks start dropping.

>>34039722
Exactly, what was described does not sound reasonable. If soldiers are being left in an area where chemical and biological weapons are active for an entire day on full alert they aren't doing important work, they're being left to die.

>>34039417
>Stay tuned boppers

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>>34039864
>Good morning Korea!

>>34033533
>those three things basically destroyed aesthetics.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I find the ALICE system is more comfortable than the MOLLE system

>>34039742
Yes, it was. The late Cold War Air Force was a beautiful thing, and having a bunch of Nam vet SNCOs and senior pilots helped make it that way.

t.1982-2007

>>34033774
>>34033783
>>34033790
>>34033799
Where was this exactly?

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>>34040123
I know this pic is 70's but still

>>34039787
>If soldiers are being left in an area where chemical and biological weapons are active for an entire day on full alert they aren't doing important work, they're being left to die.

They may not be able to move because they are carrying out the mission. War isn't "reasonable" and some deaths are expected from heat stress in prolonged MOPP 4 conditions.

War is more important then the people fighting it. The premise of war is trading own side death and suffering for a desired outcome.

For example an air base cannot move out from under an NBC attack so ground crews and everyone else train in MOPP 4 to combat turn aircraft. In a real war Korea Osan and Kunsan ABs might stay in MOPP 4 for weeks and you can't always observe work/rest cycles.

>>34036056
>one beretta cx4 storm mag is insane.
The poo in Loos use the CX4 as an actual weapon?

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>>34040166
I wore all those items in the 1980s except the revolver. I wasn't aircrew but their gloves were great for maintainers because of dexterity so we scrounged them from Life Support.

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Fuck yeah, especially the old CBRN gear. There's just something incredibly A E S T H E T I C about the M40 mask + hood.

>>34040108
That guy on the right has his rear irons turned WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up. Must be shooting past the curve of the earth.

>>34039771
New anon here, that sounds like the same dumb shit that still happens. Saw a bunch of dudes in the mobilization center at JRTC being forced to jog around in their masks.

The thing that shits me is when the training with the masks is notionally for actual chem environments. It was like that in JRTC where they were going into a Libya inspired hypothetical invasion scenario. Wearing masks CONSTANTLY on patrol does not make troops better in a chem environment. If anything it actually makes them worse, because they start taking shortcuts and "admin breaks" like taking off their masks randomly for breathers or adjusting the mask to pop the seal ever so slightly while moving around. Zero training on how to actually handle themselves in a chemical environment.

I'm not above hard training, but when it is hard & stupid training it grinds my gears. I have spent a whole day in full up legit JSLIST gear where it was 100% treated like a chemical environment. We had detection gear actually looking for some training chemicals that would read positive on it. Taped up gloves. A humvee kitted out for a chemical mission. A hasty decontamination line manned by guys also in gear and nobody got to downdress until the scenario was successfully over. Difficult as fuck, but it actually taught something rather than be difficult for difficulty's sake.

>>34034733
I always feel bad that guys in the Army now don't get to argue with Navy and Marine pukes that rolling the sleeves with the camo out is the only proper way to do it.

I dont figure it's as fun laughing at the blue digi and being jelly over MARPAT.

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>>34040201
I don't know if it's because I was born in '94 and stock footage/documentaries when I was a kid embedded the image in my mind, but nothing quite says "oh shit" like the image of guys in full '80s-'90s MOPP and M81 woodland or six-color desert.

>>34040242
I wonder if he is supposed to be OPFOR in those urban BDUs.

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>>34040123

I'm legit envious. Modern Air Force is a disaster

>do more with less
>overtasked across the board
>undermanned across the board
>new EPR system is shit
>uniforms are shit
>training is shit
>culture is shit
>obsession with looking good instead of being good

Just fucking end my life

t.2008-present

>>34040281
The Six Sigma shoe clerks won and the pilots who ran things let them win. Ultra-corporate culture set in around 2003.

>>34040281
BTW stay in for at least twenty no matter how much it sucks ATM.

The middle portion of a career, say 8 thru 12 years sucks most for most airmen. Last couple years of anticipation are some stress, but vesting is beautiful and retiring to enjoy your earned deferred compensation is insanely nice.

>>34040333

I'll keep that in mind. I wanted to do 20 at first but the endless parade of BS is grinding away at my willpower. I'm probably going to apply for a special duty next where I can hopefully have a less insane opstempo and get some school knocked out before I decide whether or not to palace chase.

>>34040223

He just wants more thrust per squeeze, it was a thing before ACOGs became standard.

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>>34040264
It was a very short lived uniform for Marines during Urban Warrior and other MOUT operations in the 90's alongside the "Urban-T" or "T-Block" pattern of pic related.

>>34040625
I'm aware of T-Block, I didn't know Marines tested urban BDU. I always thought that was just a knock-off pattern.

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>>34040638
I'm not sure if there was a legit contract like T-Block or if they were bought off the shelf, I know some police/SWAT wore them at that time and they may have gotten them from the same supplier.
All I know is that was the only time they were worn by the Marines.

>>34034681
Go to an AFSOC base. We started wearing OCPs a while ago.

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>>34033754
>>34033770
Lettuce recognize their superior camouflage techniques.

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Picture of my dad. Doesn't seem very aesthetic

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Another taxpayer funded delta safari

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>>34041350

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Love all the American stuff but 90s asthetics crown goes to the guy wearing vsr

>>34041374
is your name Eric Foreman

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>>34041637
>Dumbass

>>34041332
>titty spotted

>>34040638
"Urban" supposedly started out as a camo pattern for people who lived where military camo was illegal, IIRC

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I'll dump what I have.

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>>34041937
Oh woops, forgot that they were wearing marpat, sorry.

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And that's the ball game.

>>34039434
Agreed my good sir.

>>34041955
LA Riots? Fire looks odd when shot on film to me

>>34041911
>lived where military camo was illegal
Living somewhere where you can't even wear certain types of clothing must be the most oppressive feeling ever.

>>34042037
It looks really GOOD
Even explosions are hella aesthetic on film

>80s/90s aesthetics
>no mention of trusty ROPE

seems like it died after desert storm.

WHERES THE ROPE?

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>>34034601
The purpose of the replacement for woodland, the ACU, was the development of an IR neutral fabric.

>>34042452
Where is this one ? Sudan ? Somalia ?

>>34033819
They're not Soviets.

>>34041270
>U.S. AIR FORCE name tape
>82nd AB Div. shoulder sleeve insignia

The fuck?

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>>34042875
He's part of the RDF so I reckon he was attached to them.

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Fuck, these threads make me so sad. The only thing I feel like I was meant to do was to go to war and fuck shit up with my brodies but instead be born to late for any of the invasions and the war in Afghanistan (aussie here) and instead join the army for it to be an adult daycare of wimps and crybabies too scared to even shoot 5.56 and can't even pass the entry level fitness test *sigh* :'(

>>34042872
Praise be to the eternal, OG operator, amen.

>>34042971
Another Aussie here

With that attitude you sound like a colossal faggot who both implies wars aren't hell on earth, and that you're making up your own bitch ass excuses as why you're not an operator.

>>34042979
>Implying I don't know they weren't
and CUNT what the fucks the point? Literally got mates in 2CDO who fucking hate their life because they do fuck all except shit exercises

>>34042490
Somalia, yeah.

>>34033537
Fuck that.

>no iron on crease? I'm going to ignore you and assume you're a pos

Although ABUs are shit too.

>>34035261
Bullshit. PACAF here, was AMC months ago. This doesn't happen.

>>34043005
After a few trips through the cleaners with "heavy starch" they stayed creased for life.

>>34043046
Fuck that shit. Its a utility uniform, not dress blues. Also starch makes a ugly shine on your sleeves.

>>34042940
>>34041985
>>34041927
>>34041511
>>34040242
>>34039565
>>34039313
>>34039235
Something to note then ignore.


For whatever reason, camera men always take photos of black service members.

Had two black dudes in my platoon. Both are in magazines and have been on CNN...

Basically if the cameras show up, operation stand next to the darkie if you want your fifteen minutes of fame.

>>34043076
Unique things draw attention in places filled with uniformity. If there aren't many black dudes around they'll naturally draw the eye.

>>34043108
Agreed, it just sheds some light on the fact that photographs are rather "What was interesting and different of the time." Rather than "This is the way things were across the board."

Sure it doesn't really relate to the thread, just something that came to mind.

>>34039073
They are fucking stupid and want their heads to be silhoutted more obviously in favor of 'looking cool'

>>34040201
That's an M17 in your picture

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>acceptable in the 90's

>aesthetics
>implying this is not a front to post pictures of men
you're just gay as hell

>>34044494
if liking 90s camo is gay I don't want to be straight

>>34034681
I think the abu tiger stripe looks A E S T H E T I C as fuk

>>34039459
>our poor Chaplain was conducting services in the field that Sunday and had a heat stroke and died later in the hospital.

divine retribution maybe?

>>34039458
>and were also much less expensive

https://www.shopmyexchange.com/army-dlats-ocp-acu-trousers/7263179?_requestid=280154#%20Size

>>34039417
worldslongestfilename.jpg

>>34044519
Amen

>>34039355
That guy on the left is GI Joe as fuck.

>>34042362
Rope?

>>34034733
>now run!

I really hate gas masks. Running with them on was always a mix of, vision fogging, helmet/hood tilting over your view and heavy slimy breathing.

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Kinda love how FSK/MJK looked pre-multicam. Don't take me wrong, I love Multicam and how effective it is. But you can always appreciate the silliness of having desrt camo's carries while being all black/blue

>>34042367
Something about DCU's and woodland webgear, covers and armo is just so appealing. Even though it basically highlights all the spots for someone to make you dead.

>>34045486
>>34045486
>>34039387
>>34039387
>>34039387
>>34039387
everyone had a bit of this nice brown rope then somewhere after desert storm rope was longer acceptable.

based on the mag pouches form 70s,80s, 90s gear can you guess how many mags were supposed to be issued as what was issued ?

>70s 2 mag pouches for 20 rounders/30 rnders
8 and 6?
>80s 8 mag pouchs on lbvs
8-9?

I remember a time where we got 6 3 round mag pouches for Alice but the 3rd mag pouch was never filled. We used it as an accessory pouch.

>>34033690
did they really go into battle with jeans on??

>>34041985
>And that's the ball game.
what does that mean they say it in company of heroes as well??

>>34043068
While starching them was retarded (and increased IR visibility making you an even bigger target) they were good for troops who worked on aircraft etc because they don't show dirt as much as lighter uniforms. Best combo was woodland pants and black t-shirts if you worked for a living.

>>34040165
Judging by the Spanish on the all the police vehicles and uniforms, I'd wager Puerto Rico.

>>34044592
Inflation calculator says that's about 23 bucks in 1988 dollars. OG 507 pants were about thirteen or fifteen bucks back then so it's a considerable increase in constant dollars.

>>34039771
>Usually you would just do normal patrols or sit in fighting holes and sweat and try to use the broken water tube that your canteen didn't have a fitting for.

Most of us bought extra drinking caps and kept them. Carving your initials in them differentiated them from the plain caps. Smart troops purged their drinking tubes before exercises but some dumbasses always drank koolaid via their canteens and didn't flush their tube.

Oddly many didn't know you can blow back through the drinking tube to add air to the canteen to improve flow.

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>>34044557
AF ABUs will be the next A E S T H E T I C uniform. It just has to be gone first for us to like it. I't all a cycle. Save this post for when i'm right.

>>34040239
What really blows goats is you aren't allowed to buy a few uniform shirts and have the sleeves shortened. It was much more comfortable in hot weather when it was permitted through the BDU era.

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I love the Gulf War through early GWOT look of the US Military.

It just seemed so high tech at the time, and it's really nostagic.

>>34048078
seeing the army all decked out in matching tri color gear before gwot is crazy. Its weird the Marines are getting all those gwot bux. They used to have some shitty ass gear.

A part of me still thinks we should have interceptor vests.

I remember reading some book that Marines were "light" infantry before body armor was the norm.

>>34033521
This thread is giving me the biggest boner right now, will post own Aesthetics soon...

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>>34033521

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>>34040189
shortbarreled with select fire too.

>>34042146
>>34042146
>240 gunner
>has a pistol

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THAT PISTOL CAN GO TO A FEMALE SNCO OR OFFICER IN THE REARRRRRR REEEEEEEEEEE

>>34041350

HOLY FUCK is that moots dad??

>>34048434
I know you jest, but that reminds me of when my 1SG gave up his M9 to a guy who was going into the field because that guy's M9 had been shot and ruined. 1SG eventually got a replacement, but he did without comfort for a bit ; having to lug an A2 around the FOB to staff meetings. Little shit like that made me like that Top.

>>34042146

>you will never e x p e r i e n c e OIF-I despite your personal views on the invasion

>>34041545
Is the Spas-12 really a piece of shit like the internet says?

>>34048459
heh that sounds like a 1st sgt with morals and wont politic so i assume he got forced out later for failing to promote.

>>34048434

I used to want to go Cooper's Color Code: Black whenever a SNCO or Officer wearing clean cammies and nothing but, save the M9 holstered on their side would try and blast me for having my hands in my pockets or using my A-Bag strap as a sling.

>>34034733
God, I hated Chocolate Chip, Try pattern was good, ans we still had a bit of old Vietnam Tiger Strip running about as well. Yep I'm from the Old Corps

>>34041955
Those are some old time handguards

>>34041977
These are my boys, 15,13,11, and 31st MEU's

>>34042676
Looks like staging up for Cobra Gold

Why is it that during the intial stages of Iraq (<2005) they wore the green vest over a tan BDU? Where's the benefit? Or was it just surplus?

>>34042971
We're gearing up for another invasion right now, literally everything is pointing to it. It won't be long before we're on another WMD goose chase.

>>34049146

Not a good thing.

>>34049060
supply issues.

before it was only infantry would get the interceptors so everyone else could get the pasgts but you know how congress and the media are...

>>34042490
Oakland

>>34047721
special forces people still often go with jeans on

>>34041695
>>3404163
I needed to hear that so much lol. He was a ranger during the 80's

>>34049274
PASGT was shit faggot. Go back to camo noguns general if you think vintage looks is better than taking a gunshot wound

>>34047757
It's an American phrase that basically means 'It's over.' or 'Job's done.'

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No idea why they are wearing British vests, they had Flecktarn vests in Somalia

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>>34051468
I think those are Dutch vests

>>34051475
And the Germans in UNOSOM wore French F1 uniforms.

>>34042350
>>34042380
>>34042391
>>34042425

These are mid 2000's likely OIF I-IV

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>>34049060
Like the other anon said, logistics is imperfect. The default color for gear used to be OD or Woodland. Normal troops only get issued one set of armor, LBE, pouches, and packs so it's not like they had an option.

Uniforms are a lot cheaper and easier, so handing out sets of desert uniforms happened a lot faster than handing out desert colored gear.

It's like nonadays when you see the random UCP pouch on a dude kitted out in Multicam. It's not because UCP is a better camo, it's because that happens to be the pouch he's got.

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>>34033770
Underrated but witnessed

Thanks

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>>34054488
Here's OG Special Forces guys in Afghanistan with a whole mix'n'match look going on.

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>>34054523
OG operators wearing black kit expediently spray painted tan.

>>34040165
Puerto Rico

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>>34033521
I built my A2 clone for that reason

>>34055122
>Gee Bill, three mags?

>>34055136
Gotta be slav thing I guess
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