Is this the best shotgun shell for self-defense?

steel core slugs

>>34031593
Schrifle rounds would be better if they made them in 12 gauge. Legitimate expanding hollow point round. Basically like being shot with a repeating muzzleloader.

>>34031593
Load a shotshell with broken glass and aids blood

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>>34031593
No

>>34031664
Don't home intruders usually have aids already?

>>34031682
Give them more aids

A 12 gauge slug is a .58 caliber bullet. Larger than a 50 Cal. With proper shot placement it can kill anything on the planet.

>>34031671
This.
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>>34031593
>wood house
>dragons breath rounds
If I can't have it niether can they

>>34031671
That's not No 4 bu-
>ohwait
Yes this is indeed the best.

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>>34031671
.25s are too small.

>>34031593
>not 3.5 inch 0000 buckshot

>>34031671
No.2 at the minimum, 00 as standard.

>>34031834
No they're not, because in a self-defense round at shotgun distances you're not getting 1 pellet hits, you're getting multiple pellet hits.

There have been tons of tests, No 4 Buck hits hard and doesn't over penetrate in the home.

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>>34031857
Seems interesting, but not for self-defense.

>>34031671

whats the meme

Wait, do they make hollow point 12 gauge slugs?
Because that seems like the simplest, most-effective fuck-you to home intruders.

>>34031593
>Is this the best shotgun shell for self-defense?

Sabot Slugs

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>>34031898
Yes, but I figured a slug and buck combo would be better.

>>34031857
>zero buck
>double ot buck
>triple ot buck
>QUAD OT BUCK
is this correct?

>>34031671

But that's not No.1 buck

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>>34032037
Number 1 Bucky Bucky

>>34032002
Consider the hole you would make with a 12 gauge hollow point.
Also consider the fact that you could put another 5+ holes of equal size into the intruder.
Seems pretty decent for HD.

>>34032026

It's "ought" not "ot." But yes, the more oughts the bigger.

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>>34032117
All of a sudden, Ought Oh Spaghetti Os makes a lot more sense.

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>>34031593
>using a shotgun for home defense

>>34031593
No.4 Buckshot 41 Pellet

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>>34032275
>Not using a shotgun for home defense
>Not cuddling in bed with it

>>34032716
Go to bed Mitchell.

>>34031900
Iraq veteran 8888 or taofledermaus did a video on how poorly sabot rounds actually perform.

Turns out that the individual sabot rounds tumble and fuck up your barrel without even being able to seriously damage a cardboard target

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>>34031593
I have these loaded in mine

>weapon that fires once a second and requires manual cycling
>self-defense

lmao its not the wildy west anymore get an actual gun

>>34035400
No one said what type of shotgun he was using

>>34035400
>I've never heard of a vepr/saiga

>>34035400
Yeah, nah bruh.

25 round drum on a Vepr-12... For close encounters.

>>34036071
why not 30 rounds of something more controllable that penetrates less?

>>34036091
30 .22 < 25x9-9mm of fuck you

Basic bitch buckshot will always be better than whatever boutique shit they try to slap out.

>>34036201
>"i want to shoot something that will damage my house more, be less controllable, and in the event of usage surely deafen me"
Yeah anon, surely 24 rounds of something that will overpenetrate is better than 30 rounds of a more controllable firearm that wont hit your neighbors house...
If >>34032716 was you, you'd be living in a shitty apartment and accidentally end up with an endangering charge.

>>34031671
>>34031737
>>34031771
>>34031872
You guys are stupid, #4 simply doesn't penetrate far enough to be as reliably effective as #1 and larger.
>Muh over penetration
Worry about killing the fucker first and hitting a neighbor second.