Hornady Critical Defense and your favorite ammunition

Mostly... HST for life... Unless I can actually find some speer gold dot projectiles to load myself...

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>>34027948

>dat poor expansion

just use HSTs and be done with it

>>34027969
What's your experience? Won't expand?

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>not shooting a clip of 10mm

>>34027948
4/4.5" bbl and they are cherry, 135 + is gold too.

I run 124 +P HST or if I'm feeling wacky 115 +P Cor Bon DPX

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>>34027948
totally not a meme.

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>>34028007
>10mm
>clip

Bitch, please, one meme at a time.

>>34028012
I think most hollow points are designed around 4" barrels

>>34028035
It's on a moon clip you sperg.

>>34027948
Look how repliably it expanded to almost 0.05 inches above normal diameter.

>>34028035
>He doesn't know what a moon clip is

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winchester

G O L D E N

S A B E R S

or fuck off

How retarded would it be to replace the plastic with a primer of some kind?

>>34029982
>that 9mm Bonded +P

Damn.

>>34029964
>Not wanting those Winchester talons

>>34028035
hello newfriend

>>34028007
>tfw no 10mm revolver

>>34028029
How big of a shitfit do you think their lawyers had to get them to put that warning on the box?

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>>34030317

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why take the chance on your bullet expanding when you could make the flesh expand instead?

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>>34031258
Good man.

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>>34029979
>golden saber
>Winchester

>>34027981
HST under penetrates unless you are using large, heavy calibers or are shooting thru 4 layers of denim.

>>34031334

Not Federal. That shit works even with pocket pistols with 3 inch barrels. There's been a guy who has been testing exactly this for literally three years now, and pretty much from what I've seen only Bonded Remington Golden Saber, and essentially any Federal HST is good to go.

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>>34027948
Doesn't matter, you'll never *********get to********* use it outside the range and your fantasies. On average, you'd increase your longevity more by not owning a gun, or much, much more by eating better.

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>>34031362

>>34031368

>wanting to live into your 80's

Lol, fuck that shit. Geriatric medicine is literally a trick. You are trying to salvage a broken machine that only continues to break itself more and more with each day. QOL sucks ass once you pass 60 with modern medicine, and if you're 20 now you still have 40 years to just do whatever and see if they sort that shit out by then. And if they don't? Oh well. It's better than getting hips replaced, knees replaced, put on a dozen different meds, general deterioration of the mind and body, tremors, parkinsons, etc. I would rather be taken out right then, as opposed to dragging my quickly becoming a corpse body through life for another 10 to 15 years.

>>34031368
>increase longevity by not owning a gun

First of all please explain. Secondly some things are worth giving up a little lifespan, like USDA Prime steaks. Some people are so obsessed with longevity they'd probably lop off their balls if someone told them it give them an extra few years.

>>34027981
I spit on your ancestors and take a shit on your children. I drink your milkshake and slap your hoe in the ass as he passes by, he likes it.

>>34031406

https://www.amazon.com/Castration-Advantages-Disadvantages-Victor-Cheney/dp/1414012292

>>34031393

That's nice, but I can show you the exact same loads with the exact same setup as laid out in the 1993 and 1997 conventions and detailed by the FBI and see 13-15" penetration with at least the 9mm ammo. I could give a fuck about the others. 13-15" on bare and denim is not underpenetrating, that's basically perfect.

>>34031402
Medicine is the #3 killer in the U.S.

Your need for it can be minimized with a healthy diet. You can live to your 80s or 100s and die with your boots on if you live well.

>>34031406

He is talking about how statistically if you own a gun, you are much more likely to be killed with your own gun than you are to kill someone else with it. This is due to family/spousal/etc. murders, and suicides.

Priv Partisan's makarov hollow points look like they just drilled ball ammo.

Bear makarov hollow points look better. like they actually tried making hollow points instead of drilling ball ammo.

>>34031432

The fuck you can.

Predisposed illnesses and environmental effects essentially nullifies any "good diet" shit when you hit this age range. Why the fuck do you think that the elderly are particularly susceptible to illness? Because they didn't eat well in their 30's, and so now the flu can get them? No, dipshit, it's because their bodies are breaking down - this is a natural state. We weren't meant to live this long.

>>34031368
>t. lefty/pol/

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>>34031415

Wow, the subversion is real. They're trying to turn us into literal sissies.

>>34031463
Counter-intuitively, testosterone is a vital component of sissy drive.

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>>34030317
Sounds interesting

>>34028035
Lol, dumbass. Everyone point and laugh at the dumbass who thought he was being witty and smart by posting a stupid picture and pointing and laughing at some guy meming about memes and suckign dicks. dumbass fuck./

>>34031450
genes load the gun, but diet pulls the trigger :^)

>>34031437
I feel safe in saying if my wife ever shoots me with my own pistol, I probably had it coming.

>>34031444
>Priv Partisan's makarov hollow points look like they just drilled ball ammo.

As expected of Serbs

>>34030317
we did that in ww2 and it worked real good but it's illegal in some states and most states won't take kindly to it if you defend yourself with fucking EXPLOSIVE AMMUNITION