why not

>>34018754
>programmed to shoot at any movement
>soldier turns it on
>the thing immediately starts killing friendlies

to be frank i cant think of a reason. just program it to shoot anything that moves and send it on its way.
>drone, kill
>beep boop brrrrrrt

>>34018754
It wouldn't be able to tell friend from foe or combatant from non-combatant.

Furthermore, do we have the moral fortitude and understand to accept the implications of giving a completely mechanized and independent machine the imperative and self-determination to kill?

It isn't that they "can't" it is that the prospect of putting a mobile self-directing death machine in a combat zone is a STUPID IDEA.

>>34018779
I am genuinely curious how old you are and if you are employing the "modest proposal" argument.

>>34018754
range too short it would only be good to engage incoming atg missiles and very low and close flying aircraft. the 20mm will not even be good against newer ifvs on the ground.

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CIWS.

>>34018754
>flock of sparrow empties the gun

>>34018754
I would be interested in a scaled down model that maybe used .308 or 5.56 as a small scale point defense capable of mounting on vehicles.

>>34019606
>>flock of sparrow empties the gun

>CIWS now used to keep birds away from airfields

Fund it.

>>34019674
>congradulations you have now killed XXX and XXX and XXX endangered birds
>please pay XXXXXXX monies

>>34018754
because it's not cost effective. the rounds are expensive, it's magazine doesn't hold enough rounds for continuous fire, and it requires quite a bit of maintenance after shooting.

plus it's radar based, not video based, so it can't fucking just shoot anything that moves.

>>34019779
Still better for wild bird populations than the furry niggers crazy cat ladies let outside.

>>34019625
look up C-RAM. full sized version already exists

>>34019625
What about 50? Cheaper then the original, but still packing some vehicle stopping power.

>>34018871
I unironically want one.

>>34019625
>I would be interested in a scaled down model that maybe used

there's no point in scaling a CIWS down. it's that size to support the electronics for the gun and the radome/antenna. changing the caliber of the bullet wouldn't change the required size of the set up.

>>34019834
>>34019625

20mm is used because you load it with MPT-SD and it self-destructs after a preset range.

Dump 500 rounds of .50 into the air and chances are someone's going to have a bad fucking day a couple of miles away.

E L E C T R I C I T Y

>>34018754
Needs audio: "Exterminate. Exterminate."

>>34018807

What if it was a situation similar to the terror bombings of WW2 - for whatever reason. How effective would they be?

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>>34019779
DEFUND THIS!!

>>34018807
Fuck off you pseudo intellectual. It is not like we are asking it to make decisions. It kills everything, indiscriminately.

have some ptsd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heLuUd0VK2s

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>>34020061
My penis.

>>34019830
>>34019885
C-RAM is 20mm and pretty much bigger than an Abrams with all its equipment. I am talking about something able to be completly mounted on say top of a Humvee, Abrams or Bradley, what ever.

I envision it being a semi-APS/CIWS capabilities in non-permisive environments. It doesn't need the massive radar a base/FOB C-RAM would require and can be a lot smaller package.

>>34018777
>time delay

>>34020090
> It doesn't need the massive radar a base/FOB C-RAM would require and can be a lot smaller package.

kay, so you're envisioning a giant target with a quarter of the ability of it's parent system that would likely require significantly more maintenance and likely wouldn't be effective against incoming threats in the area you're imagining.

hell it wouldn't even get the chance to shoot if the incoming track was launched from less than 200 yards away. or if it was shot in a high clutter environment.

>>34020095
it runs on a radar system, how's waiting a second before blind firing at a moving track gonna help anything?

>>34020061
what is the back story here?

>>34020269
land based phalanx units are used in Iraq and Afghanistan to defend against incoming mortar and rocket attacks. apparently it's pretty fucking good at it too.

>>34019863

>Shall not be infringed right?

>>34020061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XceGKHATcYE

>>34018754
So what does it do after the first 20 seconds when the gun is empty.

>>34020061
Jesus fucking christ that was awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsVUISS8oHs

>>34020061
>Video shot in portrat
Found a marine.

>>34020034
But I am being serious. The US government won't make the thing because they can't guarantee that it will do exactly what they want it to do when they expect it to do. Furthermore, the bad publicity and public ill will would be immeasurable.

Allies would break treaties. The world would re-shuffle around those who built and supported the thing and those who saw it as an abomination.

It would be a geo-political disaster and people would call for the head of the guys in charge.

>>34020061
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>34021352
>portrat not portrait
found the army

>>34018777
>implying there wont be a safety switch

>>34021466
>implying that a safety switch is gonna fucking stop it killing friendlies when you turn the safety off to use the damn thing.

>>34020034
That's his point you fucking knob

how the fuck are you supposed to calibrate a radar based anti-missile system to shoot people?

its 'vision' is completely dictated by radar, we aren't even close to killbot technology, morality aside

>>34021648
>how the fuck are you supposed to calibrate a radar based anti-missile system to shoot people?
FLIR with image recognition?

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>>34018754
>>34018779

>>34021758
>fantasy image recognition technology

Show me one good proof that image recognition systems that are rugged enough for combat and can serve as IFF where its 100% accurate, when the target is distant, in camo fatigues, and have low enough latency/think time to work in combat.

This isn't FSA/NSA facial recognition where civilians are either standing still or moving at slow speeds close to the camera.

It's non-existant technology

>>34019674
Only yesterday did I learn that the biggest airport in my country employs six men with shotguns to ride in a tractor trailer around the runways and surrounding fields to shoot birds twice a day and maintain a number of motion sensor-triggered air cannons used to scare off birds.
Fuckin full time employed with the full retard airport pay and benefits to shoot trap and wiping snow off motion sensors.

>>34021308
>LOAD SOME FUCKIN H.E.
>LOAD SOME FUCKIN H.E. NOW

>>34020034
>It kills everything, indiscriminately.

If you think that's a plus, you're too young to be here.

>>34018754
We already have something that fills the role you describe, they are called "bombs."

>>34019891
> .50 Cal automatic artillery
>implying this is a bad thing

>>34023906
There's hope for everyone when bullshit easy/fun jobs like this exists.

Have you heard of the "bap rap"?

>>34018807
pussy

>Scale it down to 12.7 or 14.5 milimeters.
>Get rid of all unnecessary/expensive radar equipment etc.
>Retrofit with movement detectors and proximinity sensors
>Basically turn it into a Trophy/ARENA Active Area Denial Countermeasure system
>Add options to remotely control the unit
>???
>Profit

>>34020061
They actually hit anything? Or is there some poor pigeon with PTSD saying, "I'm never going to fly again. Never going to fly again."

>>34018807
Even if you set it to kill everything that moves. It would still be no more blind than dropping a big bomb

The difference is that the robot might decide not to kill what you set it on.

>>34025769
>just call it the rain maker
>whoever is on the receiving end wont hear the gun shots
>shit will just start falling apart people exploding

why are we not funding this again?

>>34027944
>infantry move up to the vehicle for fire support or cover
>or just civies walking down a road by it
>BRRRRRRTTTTT
>massive fuckstorm of bullshit ensues

>>34019989
Drone death squads

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>>34018754
Israel already uses unmanned dune buggy things for stuff like border patrols.

Your idea to use a phalanx however, is just stupid. It is beyond unnecessary.

>>34018754
Because engineering

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>place these on threads
>program to kill any movement
>air drop far behind enemy lines, where there's absolutely zero friendlies
>turn on
>send in SOF a week later after all enemies are dead/bots are out of ammo

>>34018754
give it a conical kill zone and instruct friendlies to stay out of said kill zone. or, give friendlies an identifying beacon

>>34018754
Just how viable is a armored vehicle with a rotary cannon?

>>34029956
Kek. That's why I said remote control options but I was thinking of it as more of a are denial than infantry support desu.

>>34031493
You mean like a Gavin with an autocannon? They exist

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>>34031588
See:

>>34019891
>walking doggo on a sunny Sunday
>throw Frisbee for doggo
>doggo runs like the ATF have just arrived
>he catches Frisbee and turns around
>doggo sees you get shredded by 30,000 rounds of .50bmg
>doggo vows revenge on reverse ATF

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the only CIWS we need is the kashtan,
for glorious soviet might

also make good missile strikes and dual mini guns. can accomodate many system on boat or car

>>34019674
>not using it to protect your crops

Puts the SCARE in Scarecrow.

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I think that not best korea has something like this that is automated

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As a reminder to why these things suck:

>75 round per second rate of fire,
>900 round high capacity ammunition clips
>muh suppurior autotracking kill factor
>12 seconds of sustained fire

>>34020090
C-RAM is fine. It may not be Pantsir tier but it's good enough for a SPAAG. Honestly our biggest issue is we have nothing for medium ranged air defense, we have short range MANPAD, SAM and AAA, theater level long range Patriot, and Strategic level systems being deployed. Optimize CRAM for counter drone as well by giving it a higher altitude Missile to threaten UCAV- give it RAM for all I care

>>34031882
Kashtan is fed by external radar comrade, although it's FLIR sensors can track and engage shorter range

>>34032397
I bet that thing can do mad wheelies

>>34020061
>that voice they use is so fucking unassuming and cute

>>34018754
There are few in the DMZ between NK and South Korea.
Fully automated and all.

>>34031618
Sparky pls.

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>>34018754
>What the fuck is Shilka, Tunguska?

>>34032397
Fucking Taiidan interceptor pilots--always showin' off.

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>>34018754
Because we already have the 25mm autocannon

>>34030002
why the heck would that get canceled?

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>>34033787
And it's already been put on tanks, as well as killbots

>>34021451
>referring to an individual as "an army"
Found the underage kid who wants to be a marine

>>34019891
The army patented self-destructing .50 cal last year.

>>34023906
Totally worth it. I've seen what birds to to jet engines and wing leading edges. BASH (Bird Air Strike Hazard) programs are dirt cheap compared to aircraft crashes.

>>34031633
Obsolete, retired.

Made a very nice ambush buster in Viet Nam though.

>>34032397
High CG target that's rollover bait. Appealing to children and retards.

>>34023841
Breath in the light and say goodbye.

> not developing flak cannons

Wai? Too expensive in comparison? Too much space?

>>34020061
>trail of explosions
Just like my animes