Middle East Thread "BORDERS EDITION"

>>34017640
Apparent daesh made another run at Deir-Ez-Zor Cemetery, were repelled by SAA (aided by SYAF/RuAF airstrikes).

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>>34017666
Also recently read this report by Charles Lister at MEI, "Al-Qaeda’s Turning Against its Syrian Affiliate"

cliffnotes, Nusra/JFS/HTS formally broke from AQ in an attempt to appease other opposition groups into joining them, not to get off US Terrorist Designation.

Central AQ is cutting loses with Nusra/JFS/HTS since they are uncontrollable, and have priorities that are out of line with AQ.

Central AQ wants to continue a transnational jihad, while Nusra/JFS/HTS (whatever) want to focus purely on establishing a large foothold in Syria (with a focus in consolidating in Idlib).

Here is a link to the article, recommend it.

http://www.mei.edu/content/article/al-qaeda-s-turning-against-its-syrian-affiliate

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>>34017735

>Charles Lister

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>>34017735
>ISIL weapons from Saudi Arabia seized by Iraqi forces in Mosul: video

>BEIRUT, LEBANON (5:05 P.M.) – Iraqi counter-terrorism forces seized a large cache of weapons inside an Islamic State (ISIL) depot in western Mosul this week.

>Several boxes of weapons from Saudi Arabia were discovered by the Iraqi counter-terrorism forces while they were combing through this depot in the recently liberated parts of western Mosul.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isil-weapons-saudi-arabia-seized-iraqi-forces-mosul-video/

>>34017817
I swear you are a broken record.

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>>34017850
>SANA’A, YEMEN (10:20 P.M.) – Yemeni forces loyal to Houthi movement and former president Ali Abdullah Saleh launched a missile strike on Saudi capital of Riyadh.

>According to emerging reports, missile division of Yemeni Army fired “Burkan-2” surface-to-surface ballistic missile.

>Minutes after Al Masirah TV channel reported the strike, Saudi fighter jets had been heard buzzing in the sky over Sana’a.

>Local military analysts believe that Saudi retaliation strikes on Sana’a indicate that Yemeni missile was not intercepted and hit the target successfully.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-yemeni-forces-strike-saudi-capital-ballistic-missiles-ahead-trump-visit/

From yesterday, another AMN report states that Saudis confirm the strike. Kind of feel that the KSA/UAE action in Yemen will turn into another "forever war".

>>34017913
>Turkish vetted forces capture and beat up three Syrian soldiers in northern Aleppo

>DAMASCUS, SYRIA (10:45 P.M.) – On Saturday evening, Turkmen fighters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) captured three Syrian government troops on the southern outskirts of Al-Bab in rural Aleppo.

>In a photo uploaded online by a Turkish-backed FSA group, the soldiers were visible bruised after being taken captive. The rebel faction did not specify how they were captured.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-vetted-forces-capture-beat-three-syrian-soldiers-northern-aleppo/

>>34017735
Wew this might be the step where Nusra receives money and support because our neocon analysts totally assure us they really have changed sides

>HTS "Horror Shooters" Episode 1 - Face to Face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzBLDJAdW60

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ISIS DIY rocket launcher with heat shield and fires 57mm gunpod rockets.

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>>34017640
Holy shit that guy is like walking Synthol

>>34018278
Another interesting development, there has been at least two 2-man (driver and gunner) SVBIED crews in W. Mosul lately.

AFAIK, only Nusra had done that before, though wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

>>34018396
ISIS has done it a handful of times already.

Well, now that the ANM has dropped the coin more info is showing up - although still the Norwegian news are only telling what foreign newslets have already revealed.

Basically the Norwegian SF, all 60 of them, are to hold the Syrian border near Al Tanft against ISIS penetrations. On the other side of the border the Iraqi Army is watching. For my countrymen's sake I hope they aren't holding the fort alone.

>>34019098

Damnit, it's late am here. I am not sure I read that correctly at 60. Not that it is likely to be a lot more. If I get a firmer number I'll post it.

>>34017640
>HAMEED, WHERE HAVE ALL THE SYNTHOL RATIONS GONE?!

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>>34018269

>mfw thinking of some dunecoon shooting this without a heat shield and the rest of them witnessing it

>>34017963
>US special ops just got 350 kamikaze drones to fight ISIS in Iraq

>After an urgent request earlier this year, US special forces were just given 350 kamikaze drone missiles to help fight ISIS in Iraq, Defense One reported.

>The drones, called Switchblades, are fired from bazooka-like launchers and have cameras and a cursor-on-target GPS navigation. They can stay airborne for approximately 15 minutes and at speeds up to 100 MPH.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-special-ops-just-got-350-kamikaze-drones-to-fight-isis-in-iraq-2017-5

Can someone give me a rundown, of why /k/ and /pol/ supports Assad? With facts and perhaps a few sources please, not feels. Genuinly interested in hearing the argument

>>34020087
Mostly because mainstream US public opinion opposes Assad.

>>34020122
So contrarianism? Can't say I'm much suprised tbqh

>>34020087
/pol/ does, /k/ doesn't really care. And yeah, edgy teen contrarianism

>>34020141
Assad isn't an Islamist and the people who are fighting him are islamists. That, and a healthy dose of hatred for traditional media.

>>34019212
Apologize if I'm piling on. Always enjoy these threads on /k/, but rarely contribute.

Another extremely interesting article, on the source and supply channels of opposition groups in Syria.

Guardian Newspaper ran a series of articles on the same subject, this one seems equally well sourced.

>The Coyote’s Trail – A Machine Gun’s Path from Serbia to Syria

>A batch of heavy machine guns travelled from a Serbian state-owned factory to Syrian rebels, via a Bulgarian arms tycoon and a Saudi training camp, BIRN and OCCRP can reveal.

>This pipeline has pumped up to a 1.2 billion euros of weapons from the Balkans, Czech Republic and Slovakia to the Middle East, with Saudi money and, according to a former U.S. ambassador to Syria, CIA logistics.

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/the-coyote-s-trail-a-machine-gun-s-path-from-serbia-to-syria-05-08-2017

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>>34020087
he's a shitskin who cries about "muh palestine"

/pol/ are shitskins who cry about "muh palestine"

>>34020087
Won't speak for /k/, and especially not for /pol/. My own opinion is as follows.

He is a true and proper dictator, and a dick.

That said, he is the best dick Syria will likely get. Lesson learned from Iraq (OIF 06-07).

>>34017850
and the orange one just made a 300 billion dollar deal with the saudis....fml

>>34017850
That ammo was supplied to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war.

Just another overrun government stockpile.

>>34021767
>British-educated ophthalmologist
>proper dictator
You, burgers, like to personalize what you consider evil, but any dictatorship is a system, not a single person.
It is worth remembering that the war in Syria began after Assad, who came to power, began limited liberalization in the country.

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>>34017640
wHat THE FUCK IS THAT?

>>34021767
this. Im more of a neocon but since Syria barely exists as a state now, better to have the devil you know than the devil you don't

>>34020087
I don't really support anyone.

Its a Saudi-Iran proxy war, and I don't care for Saudi or Iran.

Trump meeting Netanyahu on Monday. Bibi is on very good terms with both Trump and Putin and said one of his goals will be to mend US-Russian ties with himself as a mediator. Get read for lots of RUSSIA RUSSIA stuff soon over this from the media

>>34022282

synthoil. Lots of synthoil. Arabs are notorios for it.

>>34022282

A big fat target with those roided out arms. I doubt his bulk can stop .308

>>34022829
Lol you mean synthol?

>>34022797
I'm excited to see combat footage of the new Saudi toys that they just bought from the US in Yemen. plus it's gonna be interesting to see how idiot proof (i.e. parking vehicles out in the open without infy support ect..) the new equipment they get is. Obviously this example isn't of America tech, but Id like to see how the UAE's BMP3's have fared in Yemen.

Assad? Evil dictator. If the opposing forces were capable of fronting, supporting, and uniting behind a viable alternative then Assad should be strangled in his sleep. After being woken up first. However, so far Syria has not been able to produce that alternative and swapping Assad for some bandit chieftain with delusions of grandeur and zero support or power base for his claim is not going to improve things.

>>34023566
>Evil
kek

>>34019098
>>34019127
Its not like we have that big of a SF detachment anyways. Bet you top dollar that they have JTAC's ready and stacked 24/7

>>34017735
>w-we aren't islamic terrorists anymore!

>>34023566
nah man his dad was Evil
Assad just does what he thinks he needs to do

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>>34022282

Shabiha son, thats Shabiha.

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>>34022015
>Iran-Iraq stockpile from a war that ended 30 years ago
>somehow left intact during 1991
>forgotten about by Saddam when putting down Shiites and Kurds from 1991-2003
>still gathering dust in 2003
>AQI, Iranian-backed Shia, and the new Iraqi govt. still leaving it alone from 2003 to present day
>ISIS only happens to finally find it
Why do I not believe you?

>>34023887

Evil is just a word anyway. Torture, gas, imprison, overthrow foreign governments, ally with mass murderers, condone genocide - it's not long since Russia, England, Germany, Japan, China, Mexico, Turkey, France, was busy with that on a daily basis. Most of them still are. Evil. All that's changed is a slightly newer cut of suits and more expensive sunglasses. I'm old enough to remember Donald Rumsfeld shake hands with Saddam and hear Khadaffi speak in the UN, and see Boris Jeltsin stagger around dead drunk with the atomic suitcase. Shit happens. Evil happens. And here we are with Assad, and until old age takes away his power and then his life I guess we are stuck with him. Because I can't recall a tyrant or dictator die young, EVER. The gods work in mysterious ways, eh?

>>34023961

That's not much of a stockpile though. From all I could see in the clip, it could have fitted into one single truck and have room left. While I assume those crates were for small arms ammo they were all conveniently closed, considering the whole place looked like a bombed garage dump. Even if I buy that those RPG were real and the crates full, that's still not a major story.

>>34022844
They're not "roided out". They're injected with synthol. Think of it like breast implants, but for muscle tissue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7Fz0d9H8M
How does it feel /k/?

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>>34023125
When it comes to BMP-3 one drove on IED and blew up into small pieces, but that was at the beginning of invasion in Yemen. UAE troops are as bad as Saudi's no matter who produces toys the usually end up burning.

>>34019212
How heavy is the warhead, a couple pounds?

This may have been translated forth and back a few times too many, but if I get it right: Offices of islamic rebel group Ahrar al-Sham were hit with two suicide bombings today, killing 14 shammer who were having a meeting. Source of the source of the source for this was SOHR. Who sent the bombers is not yet known.

>>34020087

Literally the only good guy. And he's on the side of Gen. Zahredine.

>>34024055

Shut the fuck up lying you neo-cohen agent.

>>34025112

Okay, I will bite. What the fuck is a 'neo-cohen agent'?

Okay, here's a new ball in the grass: The Gulf Cooperation Council, featuring Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

Who buys this one? Is it a good good idea, or a bad bad one? They do seem to have a lot in common at first sight.

>>34025537

I guess I should have added that the Council idea was part of the Trump agenda in Riyadh today. The general concept seem to be an 'arab NATO'.

I am dubious. For one thing, what is going to bring about the coordination bit? These countries do not have much of a shared fighting past, but they do have a shitload of princes not used to teamwork. And for another, which of these countries have an army with the kind of morale it take to field shock troops?

>>34025655
Saudi Arabia has already pushed for their own security alliance with other Muslim states called the Islamic military alliance. Though it's mostly an anti terror organization and is for the most part a regional as supposed to political alliance.

Sauds would most likely lead the new alliance. Egypt could be on board, they field the largest Arab army and are pretty experienced compared to a lot of their counterparts. But they've started to lean to the neutral side and are trying to play both the Americans and the Russians against each other for more support. Egypt could join if Saudi Arabia and The alliance promise to help out in Libya. The real question is which Arab states outside of the gulf will join.

Sauds have received a bloody nose from their expedition in Yemen, I'm hoping that in the very least it helps them build up experience and leadership, even if it comes at a great cost.

All in all, if the alliance becomes a reality, balancing between the members interests and the Saudi overall goal of countering Iran will be tough.

>>34025953
egypt has officers in syria in support of assad and most likely silently supports hafter in lybia, i don't think they're that close to the saudis anymore. I'd bet the military is still quite salty about the whole muslim brotherhood thing

>>34025986
Yes, but if Saudi Arabia sides with haftar it could tip the scales. Haftar already has some support from the UAE, and Saudi intervention or support in Libya could bring Egypt into the fold. But you are correct about their position with Syria, that will be the thing that needs to be balanced If Saudi Arabia want Egypt. Ties between Egypt and SA are starting to mend, so in the very least Egypt could be brought into the alliance and slowly pushed away from Syria. But that's part of why the alliance will have a tough time of balancing between regional interests of the members and the overall goal of countering Iran.

My guess is that Egypt will be a paper tiger in the alliance until/if the Saudis manage to counter Syrian and Russian influence.

>>34026038
>until/if the saudis manage to counter syrian and russian influence
iranian, not syrian i guess. And i think that game's already over. What remains in syria? The pet rebels are pretty much dead, only the kurds remain as a useable proxy, and they will probably settle with autonomy. The iranians got their iran-iraq-syria-lebanon axis finally, now its just a matter of containing the. Wrapping up yemen would be a start.

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Chinese AR

More Kashmir action. Three Indian soldiers and four rebels were killed in skirmishes during the weekend. This according to the Indian Army.

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>>34020087

unfriendly reminder

The last rebels have left al-Waer, completing the agreement with the SAA regarding evacuation. This means that Homs is now entirely on SAA hands.

>>34025169
I'd guess it's a mixture of neoconservative and Jew. Cohen being a common Jewish name. Just a guess though.

>>34028989

*snerks* Ah. There goes my theory that it was a Matrix reference.

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>>34022810

>Get read for lots of RUSSIA RUSSIA stuff soon over this from the media

As if the assholes haven't been beating the "RUSSIA, RUSSIA" drums enough already?

Perhaps that's why there has been less "Russia, Russia" over the last week... their saving it up!

>>34024127

>How does it feel /k/?

Zero fucks given.

And Lynda Grahamnisty is an asshole neocon war hawk of the highest order (along with his butt buddy, the latte sipping dunce from AZ).

>>34025008

About as much explosives as a 40mm grenade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_Switchblade

>From its introduction to the end of Operation Enduring Freedom, over 4,000 Switchblades were deployed in Afghanistan.[17] In mid-2017, 350 Switchblades were delivered to SOCOM for use against the Islamic State.[18]

>>34031747
Shame they are kamikazes rather than the reusable ones that the ISIS guys rigged up.

>>34030377

Wow. First AK-104 I've seen in Syria. Cool!

>>34031756
It should be more precise this way, and easier to use. I doubt they are cheap but I can see them getting under 5k bucks a pop considering how cheap the hardware thats required is.

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Oy vey!!!

Russian troops deployed Sunday in close proximity to the US elite forces holding the Syrian-Iraqi-Jordanian border triangle against Iran’s machinations.

>Military tensions on Syria’s borders with Iraq, Jordan and Syria jumped another notch Monday, May 21, on Day 2 of Donald Trump’s foreign trip, with the arrival of the first Russian ground troops in southern Syria for taking up position opposite US and coalition elite units.

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>Is the US-Russian Race for Eastern Syria Headed for a Military Confrontation?
Syria and allies rightly fear US is plotting partition, but plans are already underway to counter it by keeping Americans from taking more of eastern Syria
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/us-russian-race-eastern-syria-headed-military-confrontation/ri19894

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/syrian-army-calls-us-bluff-advance-towards-iraq-border-continues/ri19895
http://russia-insider.com/en/military/russia-counting-hezbollah-help-spearhead-eastern-syria-offensive/ri19898

>>34024127
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7Fz0d9H8M
I need more blood milkshakes goyim!

>>34033067
Why would israel hand out ammo with their language plastered all over it?
Is it that they assumed "it'd never get captured!" or more likely, some smuggler got a hold of it and sold it to rebels?

>>34033199

What does the text say anyway? Is there a date stamp? All I can read, haha, is 7.62. Which is a calibre the Israelis used only back in the 60s with AK's captured from the Russian-supplied arab enemies.

>>34033365

Argh. Didn't read far enough. The new Negev NG-7 machinegun, phased in by the IDF a couple of years ago, uses 7.62x51. So does their M24 sniper rifle.

>>34033199
Ex-IDF here. The IDF have a serious problem with equipment theft. It happens more on the southern bases where there are plenty of bedouin communities, but it's not uncommon in the north. It's plausible that someone stole it from a base and sold it to smugglers for a quick buck. Also, the fact that they found a single crate and not a bulk of them kind of raises my suspicion that this might be the case.

>>34033365
>What does the text say
230 rounds 7.62 for Browning
Series:(82-18)
Belt composition: 4 normal + 1 tracer

By the way, we've been using 7.62×51 pretty much since beginning in many different small arms.

>>34033469

Ah, thanks for the data on that. Still - its' belt-fed 7.62 for Browning. What Browning? The two Israeli-used Brownings are M1919 and the M2, neither of which are 7.62. But wiki is not always the full truth, of course.

>>34033491
We've been using FN MAGs for decades now.

>>34033498

Oh. FN as in FN Browning. *facepalms*

>>34022854

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthol

Wikipedia is fun

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Free Syrian Army Launches operation "Desert the Volcano" to expel Regime & ITS States Foreign militia from the Desert.

ISIS tank "factory"

http://within-syria.blogspot.hr/2017/05/isis-tanks-from-workshop-to-farm.html

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Liberation of the Syrian army neighborhood east of Damascus Kaboun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwY1EYWl0Xg

>>34033199
Cause it's old and inconsequential. It's like a retard who sees ISIS with an M16 in hand and clearly America gave it to them!

it could've came from anywhere.

>>34034947

That was a pretty impressive tunnel system. Is the earth that heavily packed, that they can have wide tunnels with flat roofs and not a support beam anyway? And I don't get how the place looked more or less unused. No factories, no sleeping places, nothing. Granted, I only saw the first half - limited bandwidth where I am.

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>Men in the face of fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQpN0iZZ87k

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ISIS fighter killed east of Palmyra, his cell phone packed with pictures of their armour workshop, he was a worker there.

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>>34035317

>>34026426
What a waste of time. He should be out suicide bombing if he expects to win this war.

Fucking retard

>>34035173
it aint me starts playing...only it aint nam

>>34035246
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQpN0iZZ87k
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>>34035262
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>>34035329
Either the kid was a shitbag, or ISIS is getting really desperate to send a handyman to the front lines

>>34036253

Good question. At this point, are there still ISIS held areas which are NOT the front line?

>>34035249
I have to wonder why they love pointing up.

>>34036356
Everything down the Euphrates from Deir ez-Zor to Haditha.

>>34020087

Look how well Lybia worked out for Europe.

And Lybia

And basically everyone

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>kurd future

https://www.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ISIS-propaganda-video.mp4?_=1

>>34020087
A lot of the people fighting the Syrian Army are jihadists

so.....where will ISIS last stand be? what are some good areas in iraq n syria that are easily defensible...mountain plateaus and the like.

>>34036798

Hard to imagine it will be anywhere but Raqqa. Much easier to hide in a population area than out in the wilderness. The escape plan is more likely to involve dispersing into the ranks of the refugees, then reunite in a time and place under more favorable circumstances. The Apache, just to compare with someone, did slip into the wilderness. But they wanted to survive as a tribe and a people. The ISIS is built on the idea of domination through tyranny.

>>34036891
nah, they will fire everything they have at foab's dropping on them.
Its pretty fucking hardcore to go out like that

>>34036798
It's going to be pretty hard definitively marking out where their 'last stand' was I think, largely because so many will continue to wage a guerilla/terror campaign even after they cease to actually fully hold any terrain, and a last stand usually implies complete defeat of a force afterwards if they lose, which IS will.
For sure we'll be able, either at the time or later, to point out the last major urban area retaken from them (very probably Raqqa), and probably as wellthe last minor town/village to see significant fighting to kick them out, but beyond that they may well continue much as the Taliban have done, forming a parallel govermental structure in areas of weaker goverment control to maintain their presence around the country from which to launch terror attacks and indeed continue to receive income from those areas. They wont for the most part be hanging their flags everywhere and driving around as openly as they are now, but they'll still be there dispersed throughout parts of both Syria and Iraq.
And do you then count each time you play whack-a-jihadi as their last stand? Because theres going to be years of discovering and flushing out units and personel in areas previously considered 'liberated' and some of those fights are likely to be pretty significant in their own right.

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http://syriadirect.org/news/pro-regime-forces-advance-toward-base-in-syrian-desert-as-us-warns-%E2%80%98coalition-forces-will-defend-themselves%E2%80%99/

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https://sputniknews.com/politics/201705191053794757-us-assad-work-syria/

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-trump-could-deal-a-blow-to-iran--and-help-save-syria/2017/05/21/913f62ae-3cb2-11e7-a058-ddbb23c75d82_story.html

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>>34037025
Mandic sure loves that Jew pic.

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>>34037053

>>34036985
Kek. Time for round 2

SAA can't stand up to us airpower.

Cuck out or get killed. Either way is Kek worthy

I have lost track again. Which US naval units are near Syrian waters at the moment?

>>34037117
If your trying to figure out how much force is available, don't even bother.

One Ohio class sub is literally worth 5-7 burkes offensively.

>>34037193

Sure. One single Ohio class sub with the SSGN conversion can field 154 Tomahawks, which sounds like a lot. I assume without blinking that the Russians will have supplied the SAA with a few antirocket batteries, just so they can have them tested out without getting their own men roasted. It's how most modern weapons get tested after all. And I have difficulties believing the SAA do not expect the aerial barbecue.

All that, of course, assumes the SAA are actually making a real push for the border control.

>>34037368
Nothing can stop 50 tomahawks, much less 100.

>>34037512

Define 'stop'. All the SAA need to do is to 'escort' a couple dozen civilian Iraqi refugee buses to the border, and then there won't be a single American commander or politician willing to spend his entire career future on that order. It's not like the west haven't caved in to the human shield trick before.

>>34037610
They will to protect US troops.

All that will give the SAA is extremely bad PR.

>>34037643

Ah. At what point will they truly have to 'protect' them? The SAA could do the entire escort armed with twigs and just sit on top of the buses, The object is to gain control of the border, not to start a fight.

>>34037676
If the soldiers are disarmed they won't be in control of anything, friend.

>>34031756
>He doesn't realize that for every successful hit with the ISIS drone bombers it missed literally dozens of times

>>34021496
i watched birth of israel by bbc man the shit in it is disturbing no wonder the middle east is fucked

i recomend every one watch it

my prayer is with the americans once the jews use them up americans will grow crazy and start putting jews in camps then usa will lose that war and the jews will kill the americans just like wha the jews did to germany after ww2 and it's not going to be pretty

>>34017640
Turkish hunting rifles?

>>34037737

That depends. Are the US and other soldiers willing to shoot unarmed SAA soldiers by the hundreds? I don't mean the individual western soldier; they are probably triggerhappy sonofabitches to the last man and good for them. If they can chain themselves to the border pole and get away with it, there would be armed backup coming in before the sun was down.

Shit like this has happened before, in a similar fashion. Remember the Little Green Men in Ukraine? Maskirovka is an art.

>>34037787

You think BBC is a neutral part in the telling of the creation of Israel? Or of the ME struggles? England created half the problems singlehandedly. You might as well watch an American program about the Vietnam war.

>>34021004
great they have Russian NVG now?

>>34037512
A battery of Iron Dome systems could...

>>34037830
If they are unarmed they are effectively civilians. So no?

>armed backup

Would be engaged

>Remember the Little Green Men in Ukraine?

I remember them being heavily armed.

>>34037897
Nope.

They have a launch rate they need to maintain and each launcher would be individually targeted. Targeting for the iron dome would be terminal only due to NOE.

This is not a ballistic threat.

>>34037927

Effectively they would, in uniform, still represent their country's government even if they were marching backward while juggling raw eggs. And the western forces would have to deal with them as such. If Assad got away with it he'd win praise from everywhere as a clever bastard. And if the western soldiers shoot his unarmed soldiers down, he will win more support than he ever had before.

I know this is not a particularly realistic scenario. But this is a war where the SAA have won territory by letting armed rebels run off in SAA-provided bus convoys. While unarmed warfare would be a new one, I AM expecting unconventional shit to happen yet.

>>34037998
>And the western forces would have to deal with them as such.

No? Unarmed soliders are no threat and will most likely be treated like deserters, told to fuck off and stay out of the way. Being as how they are unarmed, that's exactly what they would do.

>B...BUT WHAT IF THEY RUSHED THE BASE UNARMED?

Then they would be shot like any other person.

Why, would they have to treat them as an armed threat? Because the color of their shirt?

This entire scenario is retarded anon.

>>34030384
It makes me so mad that ISIS can get sexy brand new Toyota Hiluxes, but I can't.

>>34038023
Go steal one like isis did then.

>>34037246
the road to bagdad....for the....6th time?

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>>34038299

http://www.alternativenewsnetwork.net/toyota-confirms-ksa-qatar-uae-jordan-supplied-isis-cars/

>>34038079
"Steal"

That's a funny way to spell "Sold to corrupt Iraqi politicians by the US State Department"

>>34038365
>Le ISIS is CIA!

Kek

>>34038332
thats literally the worst article I've ever read

>>34033104

Meh. It's like a game of chess. The Russians are just moving a few pawns around.

Their ying to our yang if you will.

>>34034646

So those "curtains" are straps of leather and they are supposed to eliminate/reduce the thermal/IR signature of the tank?

I know they're inbreed... but that is just pants-on-head retarded levels there.

>>34038451
It's Mandick. What do you expect?

You're better off treating him as a AI shitposter trawling for links remotely related to the topic and posting links with out of context images.

Mostly Manchester terror news since yesterday. A few ME factoids popped up anyway.

- Trump is still in Israel. I think he is meeting Palestinian president Abbas today; that should be a strained but inconsequential event. The meetup with the Israelis seem to have gone smoothly; maybe I haven't read the right news outlet yet. If Trump is trying to build a saudi-israeli alliance and it work even a little then I a going to be quite impressed.

Meanwhile:
- in Bahrain the police have been firing at demonstrators.
- in Shah Wali Kot in Aghanistan, ten people have been killed and nine wounded in an attack on an army base. Who the attackers were was not mentioned.
- a rocket fired from Sinay, Egypt 'landed' on the Israeli side of the border. No damage mentioned.

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>>34017850

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>>34042439

>>34043295

Actually Mandic, that's a pretty amazing pic. It was found at Gallipolli after the great ww1 battle. Thanks for showing it, I had never seen it before.

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>>34043428

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjfn9G7kQ8c

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Not directly related to the middle east, but IS managed to take over a city of 200,000 in the Philippines during overnight fighting.

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http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photographs-show-russian-air-force-supporting-syrian-army-al-tanf-front/ri19910#.WSRGeTNt0GU.twitter

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ABOUT US 100 the WITH WEAPONS TRUCKS the FOR KURDISH Arrived FORCES SYRIA - TURKISH MEDIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKseZzSL2jM

>>34045836

Kurds really are the definition of useful idiots in the middle East. They will NEVER have autonomy, nor do they deserve it.

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>>34045836
that video was fuckin bitchin

>>34020087
He's seen as a counter to globalism, backed by the U.S. political establishment, Israel (for their own reasons) and Saudi Arabia (their economy depends on monopolization of western oil-hunger).

Most of the fighters opposing Assad are militant Islamists or Salafists, funneled in through Turkey (another country roundly disliked by /pol/) and receiving much funding from Saudi Arabia (again, disliked by /pol/ and seen as a globalist parasite) it's now known that various militant Islamist groups in Syria received funding from the U.S., and "advisers", to topple Assad, some resources of which ended up directly in the hands of the islamic State. The U.S. government is seen commonly as a globalist power by /pol/.

Assad himself and his government is Baathist, which is a pan-Arab fascist movement. Common Baathist policies are suppression of radical Islam (not secularism, just not bearded Salafist Jihadis), nationalization of resources (locking out international corporations and forcing a fair market price, generally incurring the ire of the U.S. government, and fear of competition from Saudi Arabia) Baathist social policy could be described as tolerant by neighboring standards, by the standards of the U.S. government's allies.


That's about the rundown of why /pol/ generally likes Assad. /k/, as far as I know, is ambivalent and just likes the operator porn to come out of the first war entirely documented by GoPro's and drones.

>>34021029
Now, that IS where the contrarianism comes in.

Just like Saddam or Gadaffi, the U.S. media (I can't speak for other western countries. I assume they tow the line as client-kingdoms) ramped up a large propaganda campaign with unconcealed uniformity. As distrust and disdain of the corporate media is at an all-time high, this led many young men considering themselves in some way "alternative" to immediately back the Baathists, for contempt of being fed a line.

>>34022658
That's still a thing? You mean corporate tax cuts, trickle-down economics, Judeo-Christian moral majority; the whole lot?

>>34017735
What rifle is that?

>>34023887
Hafez Assad wasn't even evil. He kept Israeli and Saudi meddling from infesting his country with Islamist insurgents, and was roundly played by Kissinger.

>>34030384
It's funny how alot of the IS were just Caucasian Islamic militants, and the Russians still end up killing them all the way over there.

>>34046886
almost. Im a big advocate of the offensive rather than defensive realist. The only way to maintain dominance for any country is to continue expanding its influence. Neoconservatism advocates for the same, but it adds international trade and soft power to the mix which i agree with (to a certain extent).

>>34046938

By caucasian you mean chechnyan, right?

>>34046958
Yes.

>>34045836
I watched half of that before I realized you could move the camera

>>34046938

Have to give it to the russians though. They have been involved for a while now and have managed to keep their noses clean. If there has been any serious cases of misbehaviour so far they have kept an extraordinary lid on it. It's not that long ago that their reputation for disciplinary breaches and heavy handed local ruling stunk. Not that the russians were alone in this, but I am sure you understand.

>>34047050
They're fighting a war in which they're usually on the ground to get their hands dirty, as far as we can see, and they're working with local forces, not occupying an area en masse, which is what gives rise to opportunities for war crimes. Yes, I'm glad for Russia's presence there (not just IS but U.S., SA, all of them needed a bloody nose for being jackals) but it's easy to be the good guy when you're protecting a government that, if a free and fair election were held today, would still win by majority, despite U.S./globalist crying.

>>34047085
not on the ground, excuse me,.

>>34017640
can somebody explain whats happening in libya?

>>34047085

I appreciate the Russians in this war too, I really do. While the US/alliesAF were doing a considerable number of sorties against IS targets it was the Russians who bombed the shit of the oil truck convoys that the first group had been strangely unable to make a dent in. And while I don't care for Assad the Russian support fills a power vacuum that the Turks or the Saudis may have been eager to fill. Even the kurds benefit, as the russians might make it harder for him to attack them. If the Russians stay for a while the odds of some kind of peace for Syria might still happen. It would be nice for a change.

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>>34047142
>tfw no scoped bar and a dozen roses

>>34037205
what truck is that?

>>34047163
Three way low intensity conflict between the major groups (ISIL, though they're not as prevalent now, Colonel Haftar and his Tobruk western recognized government, and the Tripoli islamist leaning government). Those three are competing against each other for control over the country. Additionally there are smaller more regional conflicts between differing tribes and sub-ethnic groups in the south. The Libyan national army, which has former Ghaddafi troops sides with Haftar and the Tobruk government. Haftar has taken a large role in the Tobruk government, which controls the eastern half of the country. Haftar has gone to the UAE, Egypt and has talked to even the Russians about getting aid. So far there are rumors that Russian SOF or in the very least PMC's are operating in Eastern Libya. If rumors are confirmed they would most likely be training and advising the LNA. The Government National Accord is made up of more islamist leaning militias and currently controls the western half of the country. Both sides engage in skirmishes and low intensity fighting for the most part. Peace talks between the two sides are bumpy as they've been broken multiple times as a result of insufficient control over some more loose elements in their armies. They did cooperate in order to push ISIL out of Sirte. ISIL itself has remained mostly underground since loosing its stronghold in the central coast. They've occasionally resurfaced to conduct raids (like the one that recently happened in Central Libya against LNA controlled towns and airfields 4 days ago) and control a few towns that the LNA hasn't bothered recapturing yet.

>>34047142
Where do they find these?

>>34047497

There were vast numbers made. I am more surprised that one of these are precise enough to warrant a scope.

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>>34047407

KAMAZ

>>34047425

Not the one you replied to, but thanks - that was a lot of info in a single paragraph. The newspapers in my country haven't the foggiest idea about what is going on in Libya. But ask them about every obscure tv celebrity person ever, worldwide...

>>34044812

Where's the rest of it?

>>34017735
>>34046888
>He gets a SPAS-15 and you don't

>>34046886

>corporate tax cuts, trickle-down economics

Spotted the socialist cuck in a clown car.
Time to understand that "free" isn't free. That your going to have to work for what you want. Not expect the gov to steal it for you.

>>34046938

The Russians have had a lot of hands-on experience removing kebab. The only thing that has changed this time around are the GPS coordinates.

>>34046958
>caucasian

I think he's referring to the Caucasus region they are from, hence the name "Caucasian"

>>34045347
Technically they're Abu Sayyaf, guys who have been stirring shit in the southern Philippines long before IS existed, brutal then as they are now (plus Mautes, former MILF men). IS simply took them in because they think it would make their organization look like it has a further reach than they actually are.

AS has been bleeding for over a year now (although it's harder to guage Maute's strength). 500+ men may seem large but they may also be throwing a majority of their weight into a takeover in a make-or-break situation. It's certainly giving them a lot of attention in the media, which is good for jihadi PR. That's also why they raided the nearby prison looking to recruit as many more men as they can.

>>34050775
Just to add, this isn't the first time something like this happened either. For 4 days in November, the Mautes managed to seize Butig, a smaller town of 19,000, with 200-300 men.

I have a hunch Abu Sayyaf is on its way out while the Maute group is stepping in to fill the hole.

Activity in Syria is really lighting up now.

>SAA forces in the southeastern front are close to relinking all three salients into one, surrounding two rebel pockets; IS cutting their loses there and pulling out of that area without a fight to shift their forces elsewhere.
>The SAA is inching closer to Maskaneh in the Dayr Hafir offensive.
>The SDF is breezing towards Raqqa. They're also closing in at the Ba'ath Dam.
>Al-Bukamal is being fortified by IS. Seems what coming offensive there isn't going to be the same as that hilarious failure of an FSA offensive in 2016.

>>34037025
SAA heading to al tanf could jeopardise the fight for Deir Ezzor?What a piece of neocon shit.

DEIR EZZOR WHEN

Imminent kurdish secession according to RT heh

>>34052102

Here's the link.

https://www.rt.com/news/389556-kurdish-independence-imminent-iraq/

My chief issue with the story is that it is based on a US Senate hearing with a Defense Intelligence Agency head. Anything said in that setting is about as trustworthy as a weight loss pill ad.

>>34020087

Because literally the only good guy, and he has the support of 80% of the Syrians.

The other 20% are Sunni Jihadists of the Muslim Brotherhood.

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>>34037025

Washington Post is a Neo-Con Jew mouthpiece.

Just last week they were about to impeach Trump but since he's kissed so much Saudi ass in the last few days and pledged to start a war with Iran, they're now calling for cool heads against the impeachment chants.

>>34052305

Interesting gun. It looks like it might be able to fold into brick shape, if the grip and trigger set can be moved?

>>34052277
Yeah, that's why he needs Russians, Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans and Lebanese to fight his war for him.

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The term that you used in the headline of the operations of the current Syrian army familiar with the military, in terms of characterization may be understanding of the nature of the ring as a field is to draw gradually milestones provide troops from two directions along the lines of the jaws of pincers and dishes jaws at the heart of the area to be Occlusion on them, leaving a narrow exit corridor It is under the control of firearms advanced forces to allow enemy forces to withdraw from the ring area either by force or through a settlement through negotiations, and examples in this regard are many and wide, especially in the provinces of Damascus and rural Damascus and Homs.
Before entering into showing the nature of the current operations, especially in the Syrian desert areas, it is necessary to recall the titles of the previous stage and distant ones nearby.
During 2014 , the months of July and August and between, was able to organize Daesh control of the brigade 93 in Ain Issa band 17 North tenderness airport and military class, in addition to the victory front managed during the month of May 2015 to control the Idlib and large areas in the rural areas of Idlib and easy jungle.

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During this stage , and before, and three years after the launch of the war on Syria over the Syrian military leadership began after enabling it to absorb the shock and to redraw the repositioning of forces in the case of defense within the two - stage "passive defense" and "affirmative defense", to determine the priorities of confrontation, where regain control of the region 's strategic weight of the state is a top priority by securing major cities and roads linking them to create a broad base of the fulcrum and a coherent end major risks and moving towards resolving the fighting parties.
Regain control of the strategic weight of the state of the stage of the worthiness of the first phase of the transition to the counter - attack , which overlapped with the abandonment of its tracks wide geography, under the pressure of the hostile attack of terrorist groups in the regions of Idlib in particular.
The counter-attack the Syrian army concentration was by drawing the path of progress for troops on the entire Syrian border area - the Lebanese, can be seen as a short battle and edit the beginning of this path, which ended about a month ago after the departure of another terrorist from the city of Zabadani, and already this out of the liberation of the entire city of Aleppo in addition to cleaning operations that took place in the entire Western Ghouta Damascus city down until the town Ghabagheb northern city of Daraa and even the foothills of Mount Hermon and the areas adjacent to the city of Kenitra areas, in addition of course to clean up the Wadi Barada area completely with out militants from areas closely to the capital of Damascus in Qudsayya wa Important hill and finally Kaboun and Barza, with a significant reduction in the area controlled by terrorist groups in the eastern Ghouta, which has become after the liberation of Barza and Kaboun inside the ring tightly because Kaboun and Barza were constitute lung breathing for

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Eastern Ghouta which will see a narrowing of the collar will force terrorist groups to enter settlement sooner or later, with the need to recall that the administrative scope of the province of Damascus, is completely clean except pocket Joubar which is closely linked to the areas controlled by terrorists in Eastern Ghouta.

So Over almost two years, we now see a large field shifts and geopolitical shifts greater the outcome of the victory of Aleppo and the areas mentioned above.
The geopolitical variables of the Syrian army restoring important parts of the geography , which is controlled by Bmamradtha are more flexible, as evidenced by the current processes that get creatively unprecedented through the use of maneuver property in motion and fire, and also by changing the victory of Aleppo 's political positions, especially Turkish ones, which resulted in access to meetings Astana and finally agreement " de- escalation zones", which added a positive dimensions on the Syrian army and its capabilities movement through the installation of fronts in the " de- escalation areas" and freeing a large part of many military and put him in the fronts have become a higher priority, especially Jeb Hat Badia that we are witnessing the daily operations of successive achievements.

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In linked in current processes described by the hoops and occlusal pattern side, looks clear in the map attached to where it will be the army can after a period of time not long to regain wide geography will be sitting fulcrum wide clean and depth protects the back of the forces that will advance in the battles of Deir al - Zour line border.
In direct, implement and Syrian army units various operations in the vicinity of Palmyra in the north in order to progress to Mount Abu al-Duhur and Mount poet and the Uqayribat, and arrived in a peaceful eastern region areas of current control, as well as progress towards the southeast relics and linking areas of current control when the Wadi Shalala points and the valley of experience leading north Palmyra, in addition to the Syrian army advanced east and north-east of Palmyra qualifies as units for more progress towards Sokhna, especially if we link this progress with the southeast of Aleppo, where the military operations is 7 km from the town Maskane.

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Towards the south of Palmyra Syrian army paints the regions of the collar: the first will be placed large parts of the eastern Qalmoun inside the ring through the points of jaw in Sawwanah Triangle area - the Valley of Notre Dame South Palace and Khan milkmaids south of Palmyra and point Valley spears northeast China Airport. And the second at a point or Aelchenaal southeast Seine Airport and at the points Almairadh experience and Beak spacious north - east dam Zuluf northeast endosperm.
In addition to installing the ring points and dishes in the mentioned areas, is now the Syrian army has bases the fulcrum for the launch of his troops Jbhia after laying depth coherent landmarks and Altziv towards Deir al - Zour and Abu Kamal, as well as the direction of Tanf crossing where we will be in front of radical and significant shifts in the field of drawing the war that gets in the political conditions of the course America is trying very complex and with the drawing rules of engagement of the different rules of engagement drawn by the Syrian army and its allies.

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>>34020087
I don't really like him, I just think it's funny hes lasted this long. What I'm really against is any western power intervening in Syria with a large amount of ground troops. It's not our fight, and as long as the combatants don't spill out further int Turkey, Jordan or the holy land I don't care what happens. I have given up on democracy in the middle east.

>>34052877
>It's not our fight, and as long as the combatants don't spill out further int Turkey, Jordan or the holy land I don't care what happens.

Oh, it will.

>>34052877

So a non-western power intervening in Syria is fine?

Also, Assad could last another 50 years. Tyrants and dictators only die from old age or if their power to rule has been destroyed first. The gods must be protecting them because evidently there are no lone gunmen with a scope left anywhere on the planet. Not that I can think of anywhere where it would improve matters, but the pattern has been there since the 60s. And I find that really funny too.

>>34053160

people dont have problem with "legal interventions" like US in Iraq against ISIS atm ,but with "illegal interventions" (like US in Syria)

>>34053160

Ok, it is a point worth considering. On one point, agreed, Assad has not in any way invited the US to help out with the IS issue. But on the other hand their part in this story seems to be a small scale support operation for the SDF. And unless my memory fails me neither SDF nor the US SF have been in direct combat with the SAA yet - and the ground the SDF is taking from IS now will have to be handed over to Assad afterwards because the SDF has zero power base in the area. I'm tempted to say that Assad gains more from the US ground intervention than he loses, in the long view. Yes, I know, there was that Tomahawk attack which took out a few SyAf planes. And I do consider that an illegal intervention, and I have a problem with it. On the other hand the actual damage was pretty limited.

#BREAKING NATO to join anti-IS coalition: diplomatic source
Manchester and Mawari ISIS attack initiated to give good reason for NATO to join fight against ISIS ,but mainly in ME to slowly drag NATO in fight against Iran in ME

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https://www.ft.com/content/eb7f4c3c-404c-11e7-9d56-25f963e998b2

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/magazine/aleppo-after-the-fall.html?_r=3

Busting in after a two day break with a NYT story on Aleppo post SAA victory. It's definitely not overtly pro rebel nor pro Syrian government either. He outright says by winning here Assad has assured his rule. One partly sad and amusing story is of one old man who basically went neet and hide in his home/basement for about 4 years. Worth reading for anyone that followed the battle of Aleppo.

>>34054021
I'm sick of all the retards saying Saudi Arabia arms ISIS, ISIS is using 60's Russian weapons and vehicles.

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Leaving the latest and greatest of SAA advances in eastern Aleppo toward the last IS held city. I am aware of possible IS advances in Deir Ezzor city tonight but will give the NDF/SAA the benefit of doubt until tomorrow when there is a clearer picture of the IS offensive.

>>34054055
>ISIS is using 60's Russian weapons and vehicles.
Now you just sound retarded, there's thousands of pictures and videos been around showing IS with every kind of modern (US) gear from rifles/NVG type stuff all the way through to literally M1 Abrams tanks.
If you wanted to make the (perfectly reasonable) point that they acquired their shiny toys largely as a result of their initial looting spree through Iraq (and to a lesser extent looted/bought from other groups foolishly supplied by the US) and not as a result of direct US/Saudi support then you should do so, but trying to claim they're only using ancient Russian gear is hilariously counter to pretty much every bit of action we see them in.

>>34054055
SA bought quite a lot 90s (yugoslavia era munition and weapons) from us (Croatia) ,they are not arming their own army with that .

>>34054074
last thing on the IS night attack in Deir Ezzor. One NDF story that always stuck with me was in Al Jourah, early 2017, a NDF member claimed IS could sneak into this neighborhood at night in small numbers anytime they felt like it and shit could go bad at anytime. If IS does have success in Deir it's going be in the city.

NOT OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED

BREAKING:A Footage of #Shiite Militia of Hashd meets #Syrian regime army on the border between #Iraq-#Syria. #MosulOps

https://twitter.com/KawlF/status/867442880884944896

>Iraqi army source: Syrian army reportedly meets Iraqi forces in the border point at #AlWalid


https://twitter.com/FuryBlazing/status/867439591342481408

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfbH1dY9UfA

>>34052670
Huh it's almost like you use allies when you can?

>>34054055
Ummm what

You weren't paying attention during Kurt Kobane, newfag.

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/22/israeli-officers-to-trump-youre-doing-isis-wrong-215172

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Pentagon: Russia intercepted a US plane in an atmosphere of Syria.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Oh1-tXlZM

>>34054037

I read the whole thing. Very insightful. I think what caught me the most was the massive organized plundering by the militias. How hellbent are someone to literally plunder floor tiles for loot?

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Fuck mudshits fuck commie Russians fuck commies fuck Syria fuck assad fuck turkey fuck anyone pro Russia especially American pro Syria or pro Russia tinfoil faggots. America dominates all you weak ass clown pussies. America first mother fuckers

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Can confirm, info about it was all over the newspapers here for a while.

t. Croat