using Real guns in airshit games

>>33997684
Don't be a faggot. Go to two gun and three guns and run against the clock. There is too many rules against blank fire and they're useless at milsim west. Plus NATO are a bunch of fucks who can't get anything done besides post photos to Instagram and lose objectives.

>>33997717
watch the video, seems like you are wrong

>>33997750
Read the TACSOP for blank fire and tell me that again

>>33997684
This looks pretty fantastic
>>33997717
Running against a clock is great and all but completely useless in real senarios. All that high speed low drag shit you dp becomes useless when you actually run real gear and find out half the shit you used doesn't work like you thought in real senarios

>>33997785
The video is litterally reading the tacsop while showing how it is used in application.

>>33997795
You don't have to win the competition. People go there to have fun and some go there to win. Some are there to test their gear. Number skill of combat is speed and violence of action.

>>33997819
That is not what this thread is about.
That is not testing your gear in days long combat environments to see how well it'll work while you are in a military camp, conducting operations, defending positions, and conducting offensive operations.

>>33997819
What are you even talking about at this point?

>>33997684
This is gayer than normal airsoft. There's more rules and you don't actually have an effect on the game (except "atmospheric effects") Call me when they release simunitions to the public.

>>33997819
but if i lose then the guy who wins will make fun of me and steal my girl and then i have to train a bunch to win the next competition and win her back

>>33998041
why don't we just all wear armor and shoot real bullets at eachother?

>>33998095
People sometimes die when they are shot, anon.

>>33998041
the other team also can't move into the area you are blank firing into either, so it's more than just sound

>>33998126
that's the fun of it

>>33997684
in the military we do training excersizes with paintball.

>>33998141
does paintball hurt?

>>33998154
More than airsoft.

>>33998141
Do they use normal paintball guns or do they have some sort of nigger rigged m16 marker rifle?

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>>33998183
we used to use simmunition but it got too expensive so now we use paint markers that look like m16s

>>33998141
What country branch?

We used simunitions or blanks. Blanks are pretty useless but simunitions are legit for shoot houses. I've never seen paintball being used for training.

>>33998226
US army national guard, my buddy in the marine reserves uses them too. the logic behind it is that in a shoot house the distances are so close that ballistics don't matter much.

>>33998206
The problem I have with that is the manual of arms is completely different than a normal AR. I'm sure it's fine for training but if I was going to LARP around in the woods shooting fellow /k/ommandos I'd want a gun that worked like a real gun. In that situation airsoft is the better option but airsoft doesn't hurt as much as paitball, meaning there's less incentive to not get shot, which detracts from the whole experience as far as I'm concerned.

In short: simmuntions, sell your shit to the god damn public already.

>>33998267
I'm not knocking it. I wish more training sections would use it. Blanks are basically useless in my opinion. Simunitions are hard to come by and depends largely on which unit I was assigned to.

With blanks we'd clear buildings and make it look good because there was no pain feedback. You could just run through a scenario and it would look high speed. When we got simunitions that shit set a whole new standard and made you really think and would fuck up your whole plan.

If I was still in I would propose the paintball thing to the units with less funding.

>>33998282
>>33998041
https://www.streichers.com/force-on-force-5-56-marking-rounds-20rnd-bx

https://www.streichers.com/simunition-conversion-kit

Here you go, anon. Shoot your friends for just 250 dollars total (provided you already have an AR.

>>33998377
The AR conversion kit is 750 dollars.

>>33998420
The Force on Force brand AR conversion kit is $240, all you have to do is swap out the BCG and you're good to go.
https://www.streichers.com/force-on-force-5-56-bolt-conversion-kit

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>>33997684
>Go to real gun milsim game
>Jokingly throw a few magazines of live ammunition into peoples gear when they aren't looking

>>33998454
>offer to load mags
>first five rounds are sims
>last twenty five are not

>>33998454
They make you put a black adapter on your gun. The only thing you'll have succeeded in doing is destroying a 20 dollar piece of metal.

>>33997684
I play airsoft, but i refuses to be involved in "milsim" that shit is fucking gay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpH3w9Aano

>>33998485
oh lawd.

>>33998485
>Play with /k/
>No try hard losers
It's a win win

>>33998819
i don't see the need to dress up to play pretend solder. i just want to have fun with my friends.

>>33997785

Millenial fever. A whole video that goes over exactly how blanks are used. Argues that it doesn't.

Congrats, you are truly a helpless fuck.

>>33998847
That's pretty much what the militia faction is. Join with your friends and /k/, shoot BBs and blanks at HATO, spew memes and have fun

>>33998922
Different anon, is there actually a /k/ group that goes to this?

>>33997717
That's why you play Rusfor and actually win

>>33998932
Yes, I don't know if you know him, but oxide, who makes a lot of popular milsim videos, usually organizs a 4chan /k/ group that plays at events. I think this coming event Flandre is doing the recruiting.

There is a /k/ milsim organisation Facebook page as well, it's linked in the article OP posted.

>>33998932
It's usually joint /k/ and /asp/ groups, we had a /k/ only group attend once. I wasn't able to make it but some well known trips were there,
From what I remember
Skeletor, Mike (Innawoods operating waifu), Zasta, Flandre, Mugi-Chan, Oxide, and Chimps were a there with a bunch of other anons.

>>33999020
Oh yeah and Nick too, but I try to forget he even exists

>>33998041
>Call me when they release simunitions to the public.
You and me both

>>33999169
Why doesn't some company just make commercially available sim ammo? How hard would it be?
It would sell well.

>>33997684
I think if I used a "real gun" in airsoft it would no longer be airsoft. It would be me murdering tryhard dorks.

>>33999196
>>33999169
see
>>33998377
>>33998448
Force on Force sells training munitions, and the conversion kit for an AR is literally just the BCG, so it's easier and cheaper than Simunition.

>>33999261
What if I have an AK?
Also, how loud are they?

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>>33997684
i was milita at milsimwest rostov rising.

>>33999277
Looks like Force on Force only does 9mm and 5.56mm with a BCG conversion for the AR. I don't know if there are any other readily available products on the market.

Haven't used them before, but they're loud enough you'll want ear pro.

>Get lost Oxide.
Stop shilling your little toys.

>>33998454
it would take a lot of effort to do that. you have to open and lay out the contents of your rucksack to show that you have all the required items to not die.

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>>33998932
there was a group of 4 of us on milita at rostov rising.

>>33998095
Im down for this.

>>33999286
Cum 2 gap

>>33999346
Not even a post by oxide brah

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>>33999544
can't afford it pham, if my situation changes before october and i can afford to drive across the country for airshit then i will.

>>33997717
That's why I'm organizing a NATO /k/ group for the October event; come join us :^

>>33998973
Eh Oxide has organized /k/ twice but has mostly handed it off it seems.

>>33999020
If you're talking about Grozny, Chimps wasn't there but I was. I don't think Chos has ever been to one of these. Also, Gargantuanon was there but Skeletor hasn't been to one yet.

>>33999038
Rude.

>>33998141
>in the reserves we do training excersizes with paintball.
Ftfy. In the real army we use simunitions.

>>33999752
does it hurt when you get shot with the simunitions?

>>33999759
If hit on a body part that is only covered by ACU, yes, but only slightly more than paintball. Even if hit on a plate, you know it.

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>>33997684
>Some trip faggot actually has a blog about /k

Jesus christ. The kube has really abandoned us

>>33999879
this

>>33998477
>Not knowing that a blank adapter being hit will still be able to kill people.

This sounds like a good way to get shot by some retard who has real ammo in his mags.
Also, "Kommando Blog"? The fuck is this autistic shit?

>>33999961
they do not let you bring ammo already loaded into mags.

you bring your rifle equipped with a blank fire adapter and the box of blanks as you bought them.

you open your rucksack for inspection and show you have all the required items and then you have to do a blank fire safety test and a function test of your rifle.

they inspect your ammo and make sure its just blanks.

>>33997684
what a bunch of pussies. me and my bro used to play with real guns. RIP in piece trey ill see u again some day dawg

>>33998154
It can, badly at times.


Played a game called ironman, one guy versus everyone else and he can only be "killed" by being hit in the head 3-5 times or "mercy" kill. (sneak up from behind and call mercy)

I ran into him and just dumped almost every last shot i had as i tried to move, seeing the guy flinch and squirm before he hit me.

When all was said and done, i found out that he didn't shoot me right away because my shots had cut his hand open.


68 cal (think that's what the paint rounds are) can sting pretty good, i'd hate to get hit by one that some asshole freezes before.

>>34000691
Yeah I was playing one time and my friend froze his balls (we were using cheap ass monsterballs from walmart to begin with that never break) and he bunkered me and shot me point blank in the top of the head on full auto with them. Couldnt even see my eyes were watering so bad

>>33999759
Similar to paintball.

As >>33999787 says you can tell if you're hit even if it hits your flak or a baggy part of your clothing. Also, niggers like to try and cheat and pretend they weren't hit just like in paintball.

>>34000794
>>33999787
Accurate.

People can shit all over painball as much as they want, but it's like any other sport ever, they have protective gear for a reason. If it hits hard enough that it can cause someone any kind of harm, you will feel it hit your gear.

Honestly? Unless we make stun rounds, like something out of Halo, paintball is as close as we can get to a non-lethal sim of combat imo.

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I'm not familiar with this board, this tripfag or this blog in general but holy fuck, how do you guys even warrant this type of autism?
How do you guys even watch a full video of some dude breathing into his microphone and trying too hard to sound like ASMR-tier quality on a shitty headset and telling you blank fire is realistic over footage of a 5'3 long-haired mongrel shooting a trash-tier AK while tip-toeing in mixed camo while his buddies stand around in the open, shooting plastic BBs at each other?

Honestly, besides trying to inflate your egos, why even call it MilSim if it has nothing military and nothing of a simulation?

>>33997684
Is this dude just hunkering right down in a patch of poison ivy?

>>34001572
what do u want him to do stand up and get shot

>>34001641
>Get a small plastic BB thrown at you
>Get poison ivy on your ass
I mean...

Also, is that Centre Europe camo? With an AK?
What?

>>33998973
>>33999020
>>33999386
Interesting, sounds fun. Only issue is, I don't have any airshit and have only a vague idea of where to start. Acquring milsurp chestrigs and uniforms isn't a problem, I just know jack shit about airsoft. I'm normally a paintball kinda guy, and for that I just wear stuff I can get dirty in.

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>>33997684
if anything it'll make sure your survival gear is up to snuff. at Balkar ridge 50% of Nato dropped out due to the weather (36 and raining). our VDV 1st platoon is the onlt group that had no drops. as for the training it will teach you to run patrols and security. on the 1 on 1 engagements it's still airshit so not worth much.

>>34001548
shut up fag

>>33998377
Will the next /k/ meet up feature platoon on platoon operatin?

>>33997684
Check out Oxide's channel on YouTube, he post some pretty good slavaboo shit

>>34001830
1-3 autism squad master race. It does teach field of fire, bounding, moving, it tests your gear and survival skills( at least in woods games) and it's generally a great fucking time. I highly suggest everyone go if they can, its a shitload of fun.

>>33999879
Trips write for the blog but the guy who made it isn't a tripfag

>>33997684

Is that the game where someone was doing the jihadi squat and yelling "REEEE!!" or whatever while firing blanks? I'd love a link to the video if anyone has it.

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also don't go if you're too out of shape, you have to hike a good bit.

>>34002512
Noice. Also is there any option to go NATO that doesn't involve having to look like high-speed operators?

>>34002523
don't, they're so try hard it hurts. some guy PTed his squad because they didn't set up camp fast enough. why would you pay to go play fuck fuck games.

>>34002523
Literally just dont. NATO is full of tryhard fags and wanna-be operators. And even with all of that, they never actually win.

>>34002544
>>34002701
That's unfortunate. I'm kind of anti-slavaboo, however after watching a lot of vids the only conclusion I can come to is that the NATO side seems like the nofun tryhard zone where everyone wants to look like some kinda tier-one super leet operator.

>>33997684
>using Real guns in airshit games
That seems extremely unfair to the people using airshit guns

>>33998454

>what is a Blank Firing Attachment.

>>33999286
nigga buy a toothbrush.

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You can blame me for the no one handed fire rule..... this is why we can't have nice things

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>>34004007
What about a rifle grenade rule? Lord knows we have enough of these

is there a milsim that will allow me to larp as a stalker?

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>>33997684
>>33998141
>>33998206
Paintball for shooting/tactical practice...
you are shitting me right?
what experiences do other milfag anons have to share
are thoes kind of cuts normal in the us military?
pic relatet is how we did it...

>>34004158
Now that would be cool. /k/ has got to collaborate and make this real

>>34001548
Obviously not familiar with reading either given half the thread is about why its shit and better options exist.

Go back to whatever shit hole board you're from.

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>>34004158
Yes in Finland there is, actually.

Pic not related, had to replace a pic that was too big.

>>34002544
>getting PTd by some airsoft never-served faggot in the woods
>playing airsoft

Manchildren get what manchildren deserve.

>>34001548
Welcome to /k/ now git

>>34001674
Go to the milsim west website, they have a TACSOP that explain I'm details the rules and how to play. Even people who have never played airsoft before

>>33998477
>black adapter
BLACKED

>>34002152
This. It's fun.

It does allow you to test your gear, and in some games, navigation and camouflage skills as well, but the main point is to have fun.

I mean, /k/ likes its vidya, Red Orchestra 2, STALKER ... and this is just like playing RO or Stalker, but you move your ass and burn calories.

>>34007254
It's a game for little kids.

>>34007286
which is why we have people shooting real guns and military/ex military in leadership

>>33997819
>violence of action
What the fuck does this buzzword even mean
Can anybody give me an exact and consistent definition

>>34007349
Yes.
I was shooting real guns as a kid.
My dad taught me to shoot and he was military.
When I grew up I joined the military.
It doesn't make you unable to play water balloon fights or tag.

Airsoft is for kids.
It's like hungry hungry hippos or playing cowboy and Indians.
I'm not telling you can't play kids games, I'm just making sure you know that you're playing kids games.

>>34007395
In real life it means not freezing up in a doorway or going through and objective.

Your actions and speed have to be violent and you have to be in an action state of mind.

In airsoft it's just people LARPing and using words they saw on TV one time.

>>34007404
>Stop liking what I don't like the post

>>34009302
>implying
>implying I didn't specifically state that I had no issue with them playing

I have no issue with bronys or professional WoW players either.
As long as they don't misrepresent their hobby as anything but what it is.

>>34009398
>professional
>hobby
pick one

>>34009457
Tbh most of the best WoW players Iveever met irl had real lives and real jobs outside the game.

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>2017
>simunition rounds are still unavailable to civilians
>simunition only firearms that won't chamber a real round will never be made to replace the faggotry that is paintball and airshit

>>33997684
>NATO are a bunch of fucks

Vodka talking again.

>>34009641
As much as I'd love this, you have to realize that the majority for people are retarded, and every as hole in America would be using simunitions to shoot their buddy with, and hundreds and hundreds of people would be shot with live ammunition in a week. Simunitions shouldn't be released to the general public

>>34009641
see
>>33999261

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When I was a firefighter I volunteered to be the "bad guy" in a SWAT kill house because they knew I had 3gun experience. I killed the first 2 guys through the door but the rest of the entry team shot me 57 times before I hit the floor. Shit sucked. Never again.

>>34009953
Simunitions btw

>>34009953
if they don't use the whole ammo budget then they don't get it next year

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>>34009953
if everyone managed to kill two before dying soon there will be none of them left.

>>34009398
You do realize airsoft came out as a professional sport in Asia because real guns are illegal right? Has nothing to do with kids

>>33997684
what's MSW's verdict on vehicles? I've thought about bringing some of my toys to aid RUSFOR.

>>34009953
that's why you need layers

>>34010318
Rusfor could use more vehicles for sure. If you message the Milsim west page about bringing your military vehicle to the event, you can chat about getting it approved for use at a game. I think Josh Warren has to approve their use.

>>34007395
not that fag but violence of action is basically a strategy where one simply applies the idea that action is faster than reaction. Pretty much you just string several actions together in such a quick fashion that your opponent is overwhelmed before they can think of a proper reaction.

Throwing a frag in a room, busting down the door a second after it goes off and lighting everybody up before they even realize what's happened would be one example.

Another would be if a guy began a telegraphed punch so you jabbed him in the throat, elbowed him in the jaw, and then threw him to the ground before he could do anything.

Pretty much like chaining a combo together in a video game but IRL.

>>33998141
>>33998154

Only time I ever used paintball was in basic training at Ft. Knox 2008

Those fuckers stinged. I remember I was hiding behind cover with someone shooting at me from a building. Well, I guess the right side of my torso and leg was still exposed, because that shit hurt. Feels like being stung by a bee. My Drill Sgt then proceeded to shoot me all over my legs after the battle was over while going to get some water for my canteen because the day earlier I screamed all the way down the rappel tower, and I guess he wanted to hear me scream some more.

>>33997684
Airsoft is more about training your stamina and preparation skills than weapons handling.

>>34010138
Well the next two guys magdumped me with their mp5s on full rock and roll, and the shield guy tagged me a few times with his sidearm

>>34010204
Lol

>>33997684
Been there done that.

Milsim west is funny because nothing pisses the green guys off more then not giving a fuck.

Blank squads are funny too because you can totally ignore them, i stood there and watched 3 of them shoot at me then just walk away because lolwhatchugonnado.avi. also if you walk to close to them they cant shooot which is also funny.

Shits childs play, like not even the good type

Paintball is okay, but if you dont have a 1200$ marker with a hairpin trigger dont bother going to open play public events your just cannon fodder when i can fire 40 balls per second and whipe half a flank cuz lolrange lolaccuracy

Sim is fun, but you need the proper bolt group. I made some from reloading .308 rounds with a glue mold and got the same effect. Easy to do and accurate enough.. just the glue doesnt take enouhh backpressure to cycle the bolt

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>>34010871
this guy gets it
pb is fun, but having to play against pub-stompers is boring and not really funny
best is to get a big group of players, which are at ~ the same level and know each other
THEN pb can be really fun and challenging

>>33998326
I worked at a paintball field.

Like once a year we would have marine reserve and navy reserve units show up and train.

Worked at a pb field for like 5 years off an on. We used pb guns at knox in 2009.

As for pb in training situations. Airsoft might be better, just because of the realism, but paintball lets you know you actually shot someone and not shrug it off.

Its only good use would be mout training, and maybe in the woods if you set up some lanes for small unit manuevers and reaction to contact.

Otherwise the range isn't there and people aren't used to wearing a mask

>>34010871
>Blank squads are funny too because you can totally ignore them, i stood there and watched 3 of them shoot at me then just walk away because lolwhatchugonnado.av

that is literally breaking the rules. Just as bad as not calling a hit, you are supposed to run for cover, call a hit, or hit the ground

If a cadre caught you doing that they'll give you some serious shit

>>34010655
I would say it's good for practicing use of your gear as well

Running gear, practicing with said gear, running around, stamina, working with a team etc.

Those are all good things you can get a grasp on playing airsoft and military simulation games.

Weapon handling... not so much

>>34011965
It's decent for training cqb skills though

>>34011977
true, with short distances in cqb, airsoft can be used as a great training tool. I use a CO2 airsoft pistol of my CZ-75 to train myself and my wife in our house for different scenarios

>>33998485
This is more pathetic than serious Insurgency servers.

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>>33998485
top kek
Not even RR is this bad
>>34001674
If you're hasguns and over 21 you could go militia and use blanks.
My plan for this year is to run a blank AR + $60 airshit shotgun for when I'm indoors or expecting fights close then I can use blanks.

>>34012415
What's RR?

>>34009677
They're talking about the NATO side during the events.

I have to agree, the Vatniks in those games are a lot more motivated from videos that Oxide releases.

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>tfw you will never go to DARC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9dBJD2Itw
https://primaryandsecondary.com/aar-darc-lectc-2/


It's apparently the most difficult training site that is described as the Harvard of gunfighting.

>>34012697
Rushing Russians
If you trigger them they'll try to assign you burpees

>>34009690
Real ammo can't be used in a with a simunition conversion m80

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>>34012782
are there any similar CQB courses available to civilians?

>>34013563
>are there any similar CQB courses available to civilians?
Several places will do marker gun training, im not sure about rifle based but I know a good number of pistol ones in Denver

>>34012697
Imagine a bunch of people with cool gear but autistic attitudes and an inability to take jokes outside of their own sphere of influence and that's what RR is. They've got a stupid amount of influence on NATO, RUSFOR, and even militia to some degree.

>>34004230

our shit is all fucked my man, we don't even get proper blank firing adapters or working simulation gear like in that pic as far as the army side of shit goes for us burgers

we had an up-armored crew vehicle in one exercise in fort fuckass, the fucking gun turret didn't work so i was forced to take my equally fucked M249 SAW with a cracked gas tube and lift the muzzle over the turret shield plates so i could shoot stuff (which didn't matter because i shot 80 rounds through a belt and then i had to gerber tool a fucking cartridge out of the chamber)

yeah good times, lets dump like 2 million bucks into an MRAP that breaks down once a month though

>>34004230
In rifleman trg atm for aus army

We're using airsoft for training I shit you not...

>>34013592
Wouldn't mind doing these courses every now and then desu. Taking a long weekend and flying out to a new city to train sounds like a va/k/ation to me.

Why do the separate blank squads from bb squads. Why not integrate them together so prevent nofunz like this guy:
>>34010871
>Blank squads are funny too because you can totally ignore them, i stood there and watched 3 of them shoot at me then just walk away because lolwhatchugonnado.avi. also if you walk to close to them they cant shooot which is also funny.


I would be interested. Too bad nothing like MSW comes to Colorado.

>>33998154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gq4NAx6YUk

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>>33997684
Meh. Airsoft should be silly. Back when I played it was about being silly.

Well, at least for me. Hence the headband.

wtf

>>34013808
>switch to aisoft gun momentarily
>blast stupid fucks
>fuckstick whines to cadre

>>33997819
>Number skill of combat is speed and violence of action.

>not logistics

Stop pretending to be a spook it's cringy as fuck my dude

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>>34012782
>you will never be part of SAS in the 80's

>>33999699
Wheres the October event?

>>34000746
Your friend sounds like a cunt

>>33998454
>not knowing the plot of child's play 3

>>34014525
The Guardian Center in Georgia.

>>34013975
it is if you play milita

>>34004230
Our training system is one of the best and more effective in the world.
That's why lots of foreign military generals and defense ministers come to Bure to see how it works. Ruag is selling this system to a lot of countries.

>>34013606
So just run militia and avoid the fags it sounds like

>>34013808
Usually we do Integrate bbgats into blank squads, but bbgats have a limited range. So if some fuck is standing outside the range of a bbgat, the only fire that can reach them in milsim games is blank fire. If they take incoming blank fire, they must run, take cover, or call a hit.

If you do otherwise, you are breaking the rules and wasting your money. It's a military Simulation game. No one stands around while taking direct fire.

If someone wants to stand around like the idiot in >>34010871
They shouldn't even come. Go to a different goddamn airshit game like lionclaws if you are going to be a shitty player like that, break rules, and not treat the game like a military Simulation.

>>34009953
My aunt got to do this in Michigan. Not all of the had shooters though, so sometimes she was the shooter and sometimes she was a crazy bitch holding a baby and screaming.

She said once one dude on the entry team starts shooting, everyone else shoots too.

>>34013707
>We're using airsoft for training I shit you not...

But in Australia Airsoft ARE guns according to our retarded laws, so it makes perfect sense.

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>>33997717
>Running around doing rolls and Mozambique drills will actually help in a combat situation against a competent force

>>34015847
Not really; militia is annoying disorganized and (at least at the event I went to) was more memes than it was fighting. Sure, we fought a bunch, but from what I understand at all the events outside of the one I went to militia is usually given shitty missions like "go die to distract the enemy" and so on and so forth. Hell, even at Grozny we were given the shit stick of pulling an LPOP and ended up sitting on the cold, wet ground with no movement from 9PM to 3-4AM without ever being relieved by another militia unit even though other milita guys were walking through our positions, talking loudly, and randomly popping off. It was really, really annoying.

>>34017694
Last game I played militia was so damn well organized, strong leadership groups, strong communication, and we wrecked NATOs ass.
You probably just had a shitty leader

>>33997684
Airsoft is dumb. War shouldn't be glorified.

>>34017938
get out

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>>34017938
>MFW I took the bait

You're autistic. War as a political tool that results in the deaths of others for the selfish gain of a few shouldn't be glorified, but fun should be.

Milsim is a fucking game. No matter how much you dress it up, how many rules you add to it, it's still a fucking game, not a real war, not a glorification of war. It's about winning, and losing, and all the interesting shit that happens in between, with no serious consequences at the end, that just happens to require its participants to dress up like army men and follow a similar command structure. When you remove all the actual shit that makes war so horrible, then it's fine. The glorification of war involves justifying the bad along with the good, and painting it as an acceptable outcome. Airsoft is just having a blast by playing dress-up and tagging other people with little plastic balls.

>>34018088
>99% of war LARPers are white
>99% of school shooters are white
pretty cut and dry imo

>>34018147
lmao

>99% of war LARPers need jobs or trust funds to afford all their gear
>99% of...

The joke writes itself.

>>34017938
>>34018088
both of you fags can go hug a tree or something

>>34018147
You need to take a statistics class

>>34007286
>Game for kids
>Being a passive aggressive cunt about a game that costs hundreds of dollars to get into, meaning most kids can't actually afford to play it.
>Being derisive when you probably play video games multiple hours a day

>>34017694
That sounds just like my deployment. Seems like when they say "Military Simulation" they really mean it then

>>33997785

Why not be a non-pussy and use wax rounds like how security forces and spec ops train?

>>34019428
link plz

Renactors use blank-fire for unscripted battles, yet no one on /k/ is dissing them.

>>34020154
how do they typically do that in re-enactments?

>>33999020
chimps doesnt play airsoft. it was me

>>34020543
where you at balkar?

>>34018741
Not that anon, but video games also cost hundreds of dollars to get into...

>>34020404
Honor system, people who renacting aren't the type to cheat and what not

>>34020646
True, but unlike him I don't care what people do with their free time.

As a point of argument video game consoles are a couple hundred dollars at best, with the occasional $40-$60 per game. Whereas someone doing specifically what's in this thread would cost well over $1,000 with rifle, LBE, mags, other shit.

>>34020928
Not to mention the cost of ticket which is what, 200 bucks-ish

>>34022197
Ticket is 175, if you already have gear then that's the entire cost.
Hot 5.56 blanks cost about 200$/ 600 if you do that
A decent airsoft ak can be had for under 100$
If you go militia gear can be under 100$ if you have sleep great already

>>34022389
Sleep gear*

I honestly think the hate /k/ has for airshit is underage b& nogunz trying to fit in.

Because honestly any mature adult would simply not care enough to have this much hate and dislike over the idea

>>34023398
I some think it's that, it's just the kind of gun douche who didn't get the "speak softly" party of "speak softly and carry a big stick"

>>34023398
which is why we play milsim because underage fags can't play

>>34022389
and yet, the only underage kiddies are ones brought by their daddies on HATO side of the game. It's very uncommon to have anyone under 18 on rusfor, I think I've been to one game where there were a couple of 16 year olds, and one game where a dad brought his 16 year old daughter to play with him on Militia

>>33998485

i take airsoft as an opportunity to play dress up and run around in the woods with random strangers

>>34004158
Bandits vs STALKER's vs military vs Duty/ all the other groups vs mutants (/K) when?

Everyone in this thread is a fucking clown shoe and airsoft is for faggot fuckbois.

>>34025482

you're just mad because the only thing you can do with your real gun is shoot paper and fantasize about shooting blacks.

>>34025482
kys

>>34002523
Just play the 3rd faction. It's everyone who just wants to show up and shoot shit and have fun. No real dress code, just can't look too Russian or too operator.

>>34026221
>>34002523
It's what I did last year, jeans and an ak. Buddy had the m240 and we were a comfy mg team. Just had fun.

>>33998095
Paper wads loaded into revolvers.

This thread almost convinced me to go run around and fire blanks in the woods autistically.

No way would I invest in airsoft bs but I'll go to the milsim event if I can do the above and get some pussy.

>>34026280
>M240

Can I bring M14-chan?

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>>34026221
What if you look kinda operator but simply don't want to play with NATO?

Also are the California MSW events the closest to Colorado?

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>>34013975
>tfw your aeg takes a shit and you have to upside down the damn thing to fire it for some reason but then the hop sends the BBs straight down

>>34026666
That's a good look if you're thinking that. Clearly not a leet rhino mount crye gear operator so it's not nato.

>>34026597
Whatever you want that's not go so fast m4 block II

>>34026666
Also I think American milsim does stuff in Texas and Arkansas don't they?

>>33998141
Walked through a training site once and there were lots of painball marks around.

>>34001656
russians like to copy camos and put them in their own uniform cut

>>34004230
>MILES gear
>idea is its military grade laser tag
>spend 3 weeks attaching it to everything we own and getting it calibrated
>EVERYTHING
>out in the field
>exercise hasnt even started yet
>all throughout the desert of 29 palms you can see the flashing of red hazard lights as an obnpxoous MEEP-MEEP-MEEP-MEEP echoes out of every wash and gorge
>wtf? We havent even started yet and like half of the battalion is "dead" wtf is going o-
>MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP MEEP
>godammnit, there goes mine
>literally entire field op is just random shit getting logged as killed for no reason, MILES gear contractors trying to shut it off and it starting back up again as soon as they run to the next one
>utterly useless trash that somehow managed to give less training than just making gun noises with out mpuths with notional bullets
>all it did was be really really annoying and distracting, and didnt even work right
>youd "shoot" some guy and his wouldnt go off, he would "fire" once waaaay over your head and your whole squads shit activated and registered as killed

Total bullshit, IIT with simmunition in MOUT towns was waaaaay better than that overpriced fuckin laser shit. Whole thing struck me as a military industrial complex circle jerk from top to bottom. It didnt work right and it gave even less training value than notional bullshit because it was distracting as fuck and imposible to do any manuevers with half the squads gear flashing lights and shrieking bloody murder.

>>33999879
Pretty sure people who only create content or have the ability to make content can write for them.

>>33998477
>>34003883
>But mah blank adapter
you do understand it will last one shot right? after that the bullets are going to actually leave the barrel.

>>34028771
>shoots life round, blows out BFA,
You'd notice on the first shot when your barrel gets fucked and your BFA blows out, no one would shoot another round

alright I'm one of the gear queers who went and played msw

it isn't perfect military simulation, no simulation system is perfect. milsim west isn't even a great simulation, but it's about the best you'll get to do civilian side.

I'm going to caspian breakout in Georgia in october. join the gear queer discord and we can talk about it and get a group going. there's already a few /k/ folks going

>>34029521
lots of guys going milita, I think we have a group of 30 now

>>34020032

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fZGvQYH1MM

>>34026666
Is that near Pine, CO?

>>34017694
the game i played as milita we did get a "go die mission at one point. but most of the game was RUSFOR on the defensive and the militia did 90% of the fighting at the event because that's were nato attacked.

I'd rather just play Friday night laser tag.

>>34027785
That's because you don't use the swiss system from RUAG. Ours works perfectly and you can use it with MBT, AFV, cars, panzerfaust, 40mm grenade-launcher, land mines and grenades, etc.

>>34032779
Plz gib

>>34031385
Balkar?

>>33997684
Milsim west isn't very fun.

>>34034582
Maybe to you. It's fun as hell with fellow /k/ommandos

>>33999386
You have very pretty eyes, anon.

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>>34033888
You'll have to pay...

>>34031404
I'm not allowed to do that because I reflexively grab guns and people if they round the corner close to me and I may have accidentally thrown someone once...

>>34009641
>Spending money on a "real gun" that can't shoot real bullets
Yeah no fucking thanks.

>>34036413
there are people spend money on airshit guns that cost just as much as real guns.

>>34031385
At Grozny we were given the mission to be a tripwire but ended up being called in about fifteen minutes before all of the Green beans retreated to our town and about five minutes later they attacked all of us. Saturday morning we attacked a building that they held in our town and basically got ass wrecked because of poor coordination and the rest of Saturday and Sunday morning we were attacked by NATO's largest section (they were also the most incompetent; about 80 guys and two HMMWVs but the HMMWVs held the only real skilled people) while the other units were hit with smaller attacks by people who knew what they were doing. There were a few times they broke the main attack on us to go and hit our more organized units but for the most part it was our seven man squad taking on 80 dudes in a well-fortified position.

I don't have a problem with that, but it wasn't a challenge. The only time anyone with any real skill attacked us was when the enemy had broken the backs of every other unit and once that happened we got destroyed because our radios were dead and we had some poor internal communication that was mostly the result of a 50/50 blank/airshit squad that made us virtually useless against any force that made it into the building.

>>34036791
one game dude
shit happens. Literally how war works. Shitty leadership is a real thing, and it costs battles. part of the experience. Can't always win

>>34036791
why is your trip Nick?