Ians new Subgun

you can just call it an smg

Francophile is the gun equivalent of anime weeaboo.
I know he has collection to finish but the has to stop.
Also add 10% buyers premium on that because thats how RIA works.

>>33996734
Isnt ammo like, $1 a round?

>>33996799
>Francophile is the gun equivalent of anime weeaboo
why?

>Ian trash talks Yugoslavshit
>doesn't sell
Nyuk nyuk nyuk

>>33996804
>Isnt ammo like, $1 a round?

>paying ~7.5k for a SMG
>worried about the ammo price

>>33996866
who is willed to pay 13k for a M56?
you could get them for less then 150€ over here in europe, deactivated tough

>>33996734
>$6,900
>about as much as a transferable MAC 10/11 now days
wat

>>33996734
While it's ugly as hell, I'm looking forward to seeing some shooting vids with it and watching him weeb out over it will be mildy entertaining as well

>>33996866
>>33996880
I could probably go back home and trade a couple of chickens for one.

>>33996759
Subgun works.

>>33996804
There's no real commercial source for 7.65mm Long anywhere, not in North America, not in Europe, not anywhere else.

Supposedly 7.65mm Pedersen is interchangeable (no idea if that's true), but how much of that is available is another question.
French surplus 7.65mm Long is generally unreliable garbage, collectors only, don't bother shooting.

What Ian would have to do is really to order a bunch of 7.65mm Long brass from Starline, and handload it. He should probably ask Mike Beliveau about loading, I think he found that some handloading books are actually incorrect about proper loads, as he made some of his own.

>>33996895
People don't really care all that much about French guns, also the 7.65mm Long cartridge is pretty much entirely dead and obsolete, you can't go pick it up at a store and go blast with a Mas38 like with a MAC11 or Uzi, which is in 9mm Luger, you want to shoot the Mas38 you need to handload and reload.

>>33996734
Neat. I've always thought that a MAS-38 would be fun to shoot, considering they're full size subguns chambered in a round comparable to .32 ACP (supposedly fires a 77 grain bullet at only ~1150 FPS).

>>33997011
Yeah it's basically .32ACP +P, recoil would just be like a vibration or something.

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>>33996957
Yes, 7.65 Longue was developed from .30 Pedersen. The only difference is .30 Pedersen has a heavier bullet. I doubt there is any .30 Pedersen left on the market.

Ian most likely went in the group buy for 7.65 Longue and 11mm Gras. I know I did even though I don't have a gun in either caliber right now.

>super jealous of Ian right now

>>33997119
Unless those were modern reloads of 7.65mm I wouldn't bother shooting them, the surplus really is fucking awful.

>>33996804
It's basically the same ammo designed for the Pederson device.

>>33997132
Shit. I left out part of that sentence. The group buy is for 7.65 Longue and 11mm Gras DIES from Lee.

>>33996799

don't you mean Ouiaboo?

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>>33997384

>>33996799
Try 15% (or 17.5% if you bid online).

I am beyond jealous of Ians French collection.

>>33996957
he has 9 months until he gets his hands on it anyway
so, enough time to start handloading I guess

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>>33997384
>Ouiaboo
Saved.
>>33998394
It's still a month or two until Lee finally delivers those dies.

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>>33997384
>Oiuaboo

>>33998499
He could have been like me and bought the dies as a semi-custom item for $200 years ago.

>>33998574
Kek. I spent half as much for both the 11mm Gras and the 7.65 dies.

>>33997119
What group buy?

>>33998621
Yeah, if I had waited I could have gotten in on them. But this was 2 years ago. I bought a fuck ton of custom dies that I had no use for at the time (and still mostly have no use for now) to prepare for the future.

>>33996957
>What Ian would have to do is really to order a bunch of 7.65mm Long brass from Starline, and handload it
Let's be honest we all know Ian and he will do excatly that. He'll spend evening giggling to himself reloading ammo happily as he waits for his new gun.
>hi and thanks to tuining in to another video on fuck you Carl and your shitty guns i've got frog subgun for cheap

Some pdf (in french, but machine translation works pretty well) for those who want to reload their 7,65 long.
They suggest modifying .32 S&W cases with tools.

http://www.tireurs.fr/PDF1/765mmLong.pdf

>/k/ doesn't accept pdfs
Fuck you too, Hiroshimmot.

>>33998821
You're about 3 months too late for it. It was on gunboards.
>>33999007
>They suggest modifying .32 S&W cases with tools.
How can you add 5 extra mm to the case length?

>>33997384
You win this thread sir.

>>33997384
>>33997384


Hey that's good.

>>33999070
>La transformation de la .32 SW est des plus simples : suppression du bourrelet – usinage de la gorge d’extra-ction (angle de 60°) – mise à longueur de l’étui. C’est tout.

>Transforming the .32 S&W is most simple: removing the rim - machining the extraction groove (60° angle) - lenghtening the case [Probably by drawing it]. That's all.

I'm not part of that community so I can't help you there.

>>33999280
>>33999070
>>33999007
That shit sounds bothersome, it'd be easier to just buy from Starline, you can certainly afford to buy a a good few hundred casings from there if you can afford to spend $6000 on a machinegun.

>>33996734
>I donate to patreon just for someone else to own their dream guns

I'm getting cucked with my own money.

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>>34000314
>donating money to youtube celebrities
>not just buying some merch and using your money to buy funs and ammo
why

>>33997384
It's ouiaboux

>>34000352
I should just buy a tee shirt and get it over with. Those hoodies were pretty cool too.

>>34000352
I like the content and since he doesn't get money from YouTube anymore, and I would like to see more content, I contribute directly to its creation. Merchandise has overhead: manufacture, storage, distribution, etc.

>>34000352
$1 per month isn't going to buy me shit.

>>34000352
>I should be entertained...for free

>>34000512
where did I imply that?

>>34000499
and 1$ per month isn't going to buy him shit either

>>34000545
>1$ per month isn't going to buy him shit either
With the thousands of people that give him that and often more, he gets a few grand a month, and InRange gets something close to 6 grand a month as well.

>>34000593
what is the maximum ammount of cash you can donate per month to him?

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>>33997384
I like the way you think

>>34000606

There's no realistic cap on how much you can donate.

Speaking of Ian.

He said a while ago there was some pistol be shot at Shotshow that he said was one he couldn't live without if he only got to have three guns.

I can't remember what that video was and what the pistol was. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

>>33996948
Why don't you do that, why don't you just go back home?

>>34000352
>does stuff pretty much nobody do
I'd like to see your MAC or other gay ass shit channels that you watch actually take their time to go to some collections to talk about firearms.
Thanks to Ian i now have boner for left handed sa80 prototype he showed.

Honestly the thing is pretty fugly looking. It looks exactly like something chechens made out of scrap.

For that money I would have got something not chambered in an extinct cartridge, like that tigr or Ar-70.

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>>34000801
Chechen smg's actually look a little better

>>33998885
Kek

Fuck Karl and shitty guns. was anyone else her laffin when he was trying to shill his CCP?

>>34000822
>take skorpion
>add bigger mag and wooden stock
>claim you made an smg
woah

>>34000352
>holy shit, these cucks are LITERALLY being scammed out of pocketchange every month in exchange for getting material they like, they're SO deluded, unlike ME!

>>34000798
The SA80 prototypes were atrocities in his own words though.

Also I like the occasional video of MAC's because he'll sometimes show some old pre-import-ban rifle like a Type-56 .223 or something, something you never see people talk much about.

Overall Ian's content is way better, of course.

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>tfw you'll never own one

>>33996804

You basically have to make the ammo. Including the cases.

My batch was turned from .32 H&R mag cases.

>>34000982
>Meplat

Bullshit.

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>>34001001

*shrugs* Even if I'm not, how does that affect the info I've passed?

Have a pic-

>>34000982
Do you shoot a M1935 or a Mas38? If the latter, how hard is it to find magazines? That's almost a bigger question on my mind than ammo.

>>34001041
I guess that answers my question.
How are those to shoot? I imagine recoil must be almost nothing at all.

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>>34001058
>Stupid sexy French guns

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>>34001058

Pretty much, I have a 35A as well, and they make my Colt Huntsman seem vicious.

Still, they are stupidly small, and would be sweet concealment pieces if they were not shooting spitballs.

The only real reason I like them and the 1892 Ordinance revolver, is that they are absurdly well made, and stupidly accurate. As in a blind pig could cut a ragged hole with one.

But for real use?
I carry a CZ-75.

Have some size comp with the '44 1911A1

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>>33996734

>>34001058


I have had a 36, a 44, and still have a 49..
Rifles (for the most part) are a hell of a lot easier to load for, you use 6.5 Swede for cases, and then use 7,62 NATO load data, fudging toward the lower end. (Not that it is really needed, as they're stupidly overbuilt, but it helps case life as you can just trim and neck size.).

If you get an auto, grab the (I forget the number, but they are CCI primers with thick cups) as with common primers and a MAS 44 or 49 you will get doubles or the occasional "whee full ten rounds" (which is still not bad at all. About like a mix of a M1918A2 HI and LO rate. I guessed it to be around 550 RPM. REALLY easy to keep on target if you ever shot a giggle-gun. )

The MAS autoloaders have massive firing pins and heavy falls, so you can use thick primers. Shit will be fine.

>>34001072
>>Stupid sexy French guns

Same reason I collect British and Japanese.
Stupidly overbuilt, wonderfully made. Odd since "Lee" was a Yank who had problems selling his wares in the U.S.

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man, for a gun board y'all really dislike guns

>>34001117
Too much want.
>Same reason I collect British and Japanese.
You should come on over to the milsurp bread and post some of your stuff >>34001318

>Odd since "Lee" was a Yank who had problems selling his wares in the U.S.
He was actually Scottish who immigrated to Canada and then immigrated to the US.

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>>33997384

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>>34001233
Preaching to the choir my friend.

It fucking kills me inside to see these guns go for $20,000+

It's an absolute fucking travesty that the Hughes Amendment got passed.

>7500 $

Patreon, imirite?

>>34004394

He's making a book about French arms.

In his last Q&A, he had a wall full of Berthiers, RSC1917, MAS36 and 49, Gras carbines.

Anyway pretty sure he's getting paid to make those auction videos a fair bit. Sponsored to traverl a lot. He doesn't seem to be married or have children. The good life.

>>34001233
>Lee was a yank
Lee immigrated from Scotland

>>34000499
why the fuck are you even complaining if its only a dollar a month.
especially if its voluntary.

>>34005510

You quoted the wrong guy.

>>34000545

>>34005489
He's married.

>that note of embarrassment when he said he ended up buying it
Ian is too fucking cute