What is the best hard body armor and why is it AR-500?

>weighs as much as three long guns
>defeated by basic bitch 5.56
Lol poorfag

>>33996083
>weighs as much as three long guns
Swimmers cut weights in at 7.8lbs
Most ceramics are the same

>>33996094
>only one plate
Lol poorfag

>>33996040
>>defeated by basic bitch 5.56
wut

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>>33996114
Thats the same weight for one ceramic plate as well. I never said anything about buying only one.

>>33996132
Maybe in 2008 gramps, and those ceramics are level 4.
Meanwhile level 3 ceramics and polymers are down to 3lbs.

>>33996083
Ceramic lasts only a couple of rounds you dumb fuck.
Ar500 at least lasts many many rounds and will only be defeated by very fast 556 and velocity does drop off so at 50m you're safe.

>>33996083
>being stingy = poor

That's some nice poorfag logic right there. People like you are the reason trust funds exist.

>>33996141
>I plan on getting shot dozens of times
Lol poorfags are also retarded.

>>33996083
>>33996114
>>33996152
>muh poorfag

I'll give you a hundred bucks to fuck off, because that's likely the most money you'll see in a week. Assuming mommy doesn't manage it for you.

>>33996161
If you had $100 to throw away you wouldn't be desperately trying to shill your potmetal plates
Lol poorfag

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>>33996167
If usually make excess of a hundred in a given hour, but mmhh k.

Seriously, saying lol poorfag over and over again is poor trolling at best and cringeworthy autism at worse. Here's your (You) and shuffle on back to /r9k/.

>>33996167
All this projection. I am the one who started the thread.

>>33996141
>Ceramic lasts only a couple of rounds you dumb fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CYsV1Xer9Y

>>33996194
>makes decent money
>still buys objectively shit hear
You're either a poorfag in denial or stupid. Pick one.

>>33996204
it is if you say so. So far you have provided nothing to prove AR-500 ISN'T the best

>>33996152
No you retard, but if you want to have armor that actually lasts a long time in a shtf scenario and can protect you against pretty much anything with a velocity lower than 3100fps or dedicated AP ammo not some shit that will be useless after 1 or 2 times of use.

>>33996210 see >>33996083
Lol blind poorfag

>>33996137
>level 3 ceramics and polymers are down to 3lbs
where to buy

>>33996213
>muh shtf fantasies
Are you also not a poorfag in these make believe stories?

>>33996202
The bottom blew up and I bet after those 3 hits a more powerful round like 300 wssm or even 308 would finish it off.

And again, ar500 can last against many tens of rounds of even 308, ceramic can't.

Personally I'd want personal body armory to be made up of whatever is used in tanks such as a depleted uranium alloy or a tungsten alloy.
.15 inches thick separated by .5 inches of space.

>>33996227
LITERALLY WHAT IS THE POINT OF BODY ARMOR IF NOT FOR SHTF YOU MORON!

What, do you like to austicaly larp as an operator?
Other than shtf there's no point in having body armor.

>>33996216
>where to buy
Only beat by 5.56 out of a 20 in barrel at extremely close ranges.
Show me some 3lbs ceramic plates that aren't a grand each and I will believe you.

>>33996259
>That aren't a grand each
Lol
Poor
Fag

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>>33996137

>UHMWPE
>Ever
>Laughingwhores.jpg

Stick with ceramics.

>>33996129
Fast moving 55 grains will penetrate ar500

>>33996083
Cheap ceramics weigh more than steel

>>33996263
>
Spending more the the military does to signify how big of a larper you are on mummys weekly NEETbuxs.

>>33996268

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfA3Qv9JjBA

O RLY nigger?
>Longer than M16 length barrel
>7 yards
>No pen

>>33996299
>I don't actually value my life, I just like to play pretend with heavy steel
K poorfag

>>33996308
Doubling down on eating expensive shit becuzzzz its costs more.

Wow you sure convinced me.

>>33996316
Weight differences usually don't mean anything to people who never leave the couch, I guess.

>>33996322
projecting this hard.

>>33996329
>ignore valid criticisms
>better meme at him instead!!
Smelly dumb ar500 scum.

>>33996347
Valid criticism.... which was.... pay 1000s of dollars to shave a pound off of a rig?

>>33996359
What's 8 minus 3? I'll give you a moment. Take your time.

>>33996363
why don't you show us those 3lb plates then because I can't find them.

>>33996302
One instance does not disprove the tens of other examples of it happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXvgDfE8g2w

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>>33996040
>you will never be able to say your plates are SOCOM standard issue
>being so poorfag and not heeding armorus's advice
>not having 8 lbs for both plates in multi curve and defeating up to 30 rds of all 5.56 variants.
> not being able to afford 1200$ of life insurance for yourself
Best part is they are line'x'd aswell but the reality is its the real ffin dod stuff not that pleb tear spray on truck bed liner.

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So, I'm 6'3" with a longer than average torso. Based on some of your guys experience(?), what's a good and comfortable plate carrier and level lll plate combo?
Also, should the plate carrier protect you from spall, or should I double add soft armor underneath the plating?

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>>33996213
This. Not many normies even know about fast 5.56 vs armor, or have long barrel ARs that can get up to speed. Most people are equipped with shitty handgats, airsoft, or slavshit anyway.

>>33996227
>lol SHTF is a fantasy
>recommends ceramic plates for easier all-day wear
Eat my leather-clad dick, you ultimate faggot.

>>33996040
AR680 my man. I've got a gang of that shit in 1/4", with IIIA soft armor beind to catch any fragments of .223 or big bore that penetrate the chest plates. Spall is deflected or captured by a thick leather collar and sleeves. Will last nearly forever and stops nearly everything. Good enough desu. Thinking of making an exo platform like pic related to hang swinging plates of 3/4" AR500 for extra protection.

Manlets ITT need to do squats and cardio.

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>>33996040
The future is in hybrid polymer ceramic composed of polymer with a backing of ceramic composite sheets compressed by several several tons in a vacuum based environment then hermetically sealed in DOD certified line x

>>33996456
You're also the faggot who buys oversized plates

>>33996459
Spall is a meme
Its documented in the sierra12 test that its incredibly minimal
You're more at risk taking shards of gear in the arms and neck

>>33996459
I'm a similar build. My Mayflower APC fits great, even with side plates in.

>>33996235
>The bottom blew up and I bet after those 3 hits a more powerful round like 300 wssm or even 308 would finish it off.
Still much more then just "couple hits".

>And again, ar500 can last against many tens of rounds of even 308, ceramic can't.
Bear in mind that plate covers around 15% of the frontal body area (less if target is lardass). Combat hits have pretty much random distribution so if plate gets 10 hits you can expect that target gets around 66 (!) hits all over his body and extremities. I am pretty sure at this point target would not care about his plate integrity at all.

>>33996480
>leather collar
>extra swinging plates

Fuck my combat effectiveness up senpai

>>33996402

The entire point of the "III+" steel plates was to defeat M193. There is plenty of evidence showing that it does so. So no, fast moving 55 grains do not always penetrate AR500.

>>33996504
The swinging plates were a joke, mostly. I do have extra 10" AR500 target plates lying around, and they would be useful as armor. But that shit's heavy. The leather collar is on a full length duster, when turned up it snaps together at the throat and is actually quite comfortable. Protects neck from frag and would probably stop .22lr anywhere else.

>>33996508
3+ is not ar500

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>>33996533
>duster

I thought all the mallninjas left years ago

>>33996595
>caring about fashion after SHTF

I'm more worried about adequate water intake and heat exhaustion, famalamalam.

>>33996508
Formally "III+" is plate that defeats rounds besides 7.62x51 M80 ball. So every manufacturer can have their own meaning of "III+". Also defeats M855? "III+" !

>>33996040
Can be easily penetrated by M855A1. AR500 is shit. You can buy ceramics for less than $150 a plate now.

>>33996302
>Literally from the same channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMSNc3lZsYE

How does it feel to be literally fucking retarded? The Army's STANDARD issue ammunition penetrates your target stand steel.

>>33996402
You are fucking gay

>>33996634
Any link? Also, who wants 7lbs ceramic plates? Any thoughts on Cheap poly armor like this
https://www.universalmania.com/products/ncstar-pe-ballistic-plate-shooters-cut-10-x-12?utm_source=TPA%20On%20Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=Merchant-Center&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=All-Products&utm_content=Shopping&adgroupid=9144991773&product_partition_id=92030131211&product_id=34839221194&device=c&gclid=CjwKEAjwjPXIBRDhwICRg-DbgHISJADP6QXpuHu47oqX9HwE4rFu8Xa-HjbunRl7XCknlsyBoWKmXBoCYcPw_wcB

>>33996651
AR-500 being the same as AR-680
>you played yourself.

>>33996651
M855A1 is not "standard." We got mountains of green tip to use up first. A1 would probably go to infantry units first, and they will never deploy against US citizens.

>>33996606
Yeah and a duster helps neither you fucking LARPing autist

>>33996634
855a1 defeats just about anything since its AP
And no one has a1 anyway

>inb4 fighting the military in a head on battle

>>33996693
Nasty girls had crates of it here

>>33996703
That's why I'm worried about them you illiterate rude person.

>>33996265
what wrong with it?

>>33996752
Only thing I have seen is it had TONS of backface deformation. Im curious too.

>>33996752
>>33996769
243 and 270 go right through it

>>33996730
Don't need to worry about much, fatty
Just keep living in your moms basement fantasizing about zombies

>>33996794
Im not super worried about those rare ass rounds though. Would ceramics stop them?

>>33996801
Someone is missing the /k/ spirit. We're here to have fun anon. You hurt your own soul with that needless cruelty, famalamalam. You said the words. They are yours. You will come to regret them, for the ugliness they represent within you. Remember this lesson.

>>33996811
Yup.

>>33996499
How do I minimize takimg shards of gear to my jugular?
>>33996501
Nice. Thanks

>>33996848
any recommendations for good ceramic plates that aren't gonna cost me 2k

>>33996857
Leather collar my dude. Or an expensive as shit IIA/IIIA pad as used downrange.

>>33996693
I'm a pog and I fired A1 at a range 6 months ago

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>>33996868
Ok. thanks

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>>33996926
kek

>>33996142
i cheap as fuck and i still have two sets of ceramic plates.

>>33996966
what do you have? I am interested in buying armor for my Mayflower APC and want something good but not crazy expensive.

>>33996998
surplus ESAPIs

>>33997001
>surplus ESAPIs
you buy the soft armor too?

>>33997014
for one of the sets, yeah.

>>33997001
how much did they cost you?

>>33996811
Yes
And neither if those are rare

>>33996857
BDUs like the AOR 2 Seabee issue jackets have collars
Don't listen to retard about the leather
Losing mobility in your head is the last thing you want

>>33996860
Uspalm has hescos for $140
Got mine for $100 on black Friday
They're heavier than steel though

>>33997064

got one bag of plates at an antique store for $36
the full vest was under $100, it came with other stuff.