I miss being in the Army. I was an infantry platoon medic and

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>>33975562
hey fuckstick. why were you late to formation. 1sg said we're cleaning rifles til 1800, tell your team. write it down, anon. where's your ATL1 certificate? you're amber on MEDPROS fucker, fix it. anon why did you only get a 235 on the APFT. that is not the standard. anon i need you to sign this counseling. you have staff duty friday night, don't be late. anon I need you to teach CLS. anon what the FUCK is wrong with your haircut is the army not paying you enough? motherfucker don't talk back to me. that's it, article 15. meet me in the commander's office at 1500.

>>33975562
>Wrong
Become one with the crowd and learn to dual personality. you will find middle ground bro.

>>33975562
remember looking at all those dicks because the retards fucked a hambeast without a condom? remember having to listen to the retards asking about why their [insert body part/region] hurt. remember having to redo all your certs? remember having to beg the aid station for supplies? remember that one fucker that said you were a bad medic because you didn't have a band aid for him. remember having to constantly update medpros? remember getting bitched at by leadership that you need to go to the promotion board but giving you tasks that will take up your study time. i do, and i don't regret getting the fuck out of there.

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>>33975621

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>>33975562
>in college now
>had a chance to go into the military after high school
>what I planned on doing, told everyone
>back out at the last minute, even the recruiters were saying unless I want to be infantry (which is totally fine and a great option !) Id be better off with a college degree
>go to community college, then transfer to real universities
>bored out if my mind every day, most of its bullshit and a waste if my time
>never really enjoyed college anyway, just trying to finish it at this point
>feel like I fucked up and could have/should have worked a better deal with the army or just signed up and came out later
>also probably could have arranged my time at college better and with less bull shit/better results

hindsight is 20/20 my dude, work with what you got and power through

>>33975653
you can still join the army anon. commission and get your college loans paid.

>>33975637
kek triggered

>>33975562
>>33975633
I was looking at the 68w contracts
should I reconsider?

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>>33975562
Finish your degree.
THEN go back!

>>33975562
Drink to induce a state-dependent memory of better times, works for me.

>>33975633
>remember that one fucker that said you were a bad medic because you didn't have a band aid for him
Holy shit. This was the absolute worst part of being a medic.

Those fucking cavemen 11Bs who didn't know how to tie their own fucking shoes, and then they come to their medic with the most retarded question or request and when the medic says he doesn't know because he's not a damn doctor suddenly he's the worst medic in the world.

Fuck that shit. Don't miss it at all.

>>33975675
>>33970502

>>33975678
hahahahahahahahaha.

anon is going to make coffee for a few years then get RAPED by the battalion commander at quarterly report meetings. it won't even be worth it unless he's already got 6 years as enlisted so he can get O-E pay. he'll be a 30 year old captain. no thanks.

>>33975562
Aren't you allow to reenlist?

>>33975682
Drinking the sadness away always helps. >>33975699

>>33975715
I'm 27 now. And just starting college. Even if I did go that route I'd be over 30 as a 2LT, by the time I'm a captain I'd be old as shit.

>>33975678
Not OP, but I'd honestly rather bear-hug an electric buzzsaw than go through that.

I hated most of my officers, and some hated themselves just as much. Don't think it was really them, commissioned world seems to work on overly political and in tension with situational common-sense.

>>33975699
>doc what is fibromyalgia and why does the pa think i have it.
uh idk specifically man, i gotta look it up right quick and probably talk to the pa to see why he thinks you have it.
>doc you don't know what it is off the top of your head?
uh no man
>what a terrible medic.
>my old medic would know that.
>doc so and so was a hundred times better than you.
>you suck.

>>33975716
The thing is, I just don't want to go back in the American military.

If I ever did go back in the military, it would be the French Foreign Legion, where I'm confident I'd get in since I'm prior military and still in pretty good shape.

I could get a British passport from my English father, I wonder if I could join the British army?

>>33975716
sometimes, depending on whether the service is accepting them. i know a guy who left the army twice. he was an E6 when i got out. dude had basically no soul left.

you can re-enlist, yes. but once you're out it's kind of rare. why would anyone want to go back to that. i don't recommend anyone joining the army unless you are really without options. for the right personality, it's not a bad job. and it is a nice life if you're young or inexperienced.

>>33975562
Medic here about to PCS, don't fall for it bro stay on the path.

>>33975741
So? Really, so fucking what?

>>33975755
>not knowing what fibromyalgia is off the top of your head

But really, being compared to "muh old medic in my last unit" was always the worst.
And it was always the prior firefighter paramedic type with loads of experience who joined the military as a medic that you're getting compared to. Like, duh! Of course he was better.

>>33975741
while not unheard of (i worked with ANOTHER guy) who was a superchristian and he commissioned as a chaplain in his 40s, or looked like his 40s, from E6. you don't sound like you love the job though.

>>33975776
There's nothing wrong with it, especially since officers don't actually do anything soldierly. When they do go to the field they get driven around and stay inside the tent all day. So it's not like it matters being old.

>>33975653
Just think about the massive amounts of bullshit you cleverly avoided.

90% Bullshit
10% Coolshit

Literally, 2 mins ago sitting around not doing shit. Det. OIC comes in and lifes some dude next to me for not doing anything when there's nothing to do and tells him to study a TM or something.

>>33975562

civvie life is tough because you make your own purpose.

Just fucking grow up.

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me too.
just sit at home waiting to be shot at.
cant tell friend from foe.

>>33975562
just imagine yourself making more money or becoming an officer and shitting on other officers

>>33975821
>There's nothing wrong with it, especially since officers don't actually do anything soldierly. When they do go to the field they get driven around and stay inside the tent all day. So it's not like it matters being old.

t. never served

Officers compete with each other for promotion. Anon will work harder than anyone, because it is expected. 300 APFT, being a platoon leader, ruck marches, being the CDR's bitchboy, being range OIC all day, ops and planning bitch, staff duty forever, etc. And if any of his people fuck up it's his ass.

>>33975828
what does that even mean?

>>33975912
an officer came in and yelled at someone because he wasn't being productive when there was nothing to be productive about.

Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker. And every minute Charlie squats in the bush he gets stronger.

>>33975925
and "lifed" him?

>>33975905
and even if you still manage to get all that straightened with voodoo and boot whispering... it comes around the corner and strikes again.

>>33975905
>telling me I've never served

I know exactly what officers do. It's all bitch work. My PL sat in his office and worked on presentations and went to meetings. And after we were sweating to death in the sun doing a layout in the motor pool, he'd leave his AC office to come check it.

Never did I ever see an officer do any lanes in team or squad livefires, never saw one do a dismounted anything.
And after lieutenant and captain you're not even a soldier anymore. Don't tell me a Major or above actually does shit.

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>>33975715
why is becoming an officer in the US such a terrible idea?

>>33975967
Our training is shit. All other officers are political assholes.

>>33975933
>lifed
when a lifer enters your area of operations and demands you strive to become a lifer like themselves.
common among fresh privates, a senior nco with 15+ years in service, and first contract officers.

>>33975965
Guess what. They get payed more than you.

>>33975967
Impossible expectations. High-school games. Worked to fucking death.

If you don't know the answer to the question your boss hasn't even thought of yet, you're ate the fuck up. If you don't have a 300, your a piece of shit. If you don't attend every meeting and every mandatory fun AND finish all of your tasks ahead of time, you're a piece of shit. This is why >>33975965 never saw his PL.

>>33975967
Anything past Captain is politics and dick sucking.
You stop being a soldier after O3.

>>33975965
>Never did I ever see an officer do any lanes in team or squad livefires, never saw one do a dismounted anything.
what army were you in? must be a mech thing because our officers in 10th mtn did everything with us.

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>>33975967
Trained to be part of the cohesive mind, at the same time stifled because of it. It's becoming the person you hate, and then forgetting your old self. All for a thin moment of glory.

Literally inception.

>>33976003
We had a lifer, a 15 year E5 who was a senior specialist for about 10 of them, try and tell us about all these great opportunities the army could offer us, and how shitty the civilian job market is.
Because this piece of shit had any fucking clue about the civilian job market after 15 years out of it.
The last job he had before the army was flipping burgers as a teenager, and he's here telling us never to get out of the army.

It's really because misery loves company.

>>33976052
high marginal gains is a great meme.

>>33976038
Actually yeah, it was mech. I was in the 3rd ID, a combined arms battalion.

All PLs and PSGs were mounted on Brads, but even the mounted section guys did dismounted drills. Except the officers.

Medics in 10th Mtn and 82nd also sound way more high speed than anything we did. We got stuck in a fucking M113 all day, and never even got to see our platoons half the time.
I bet it would be a way cooler experience actually being fully integrated instead of always seeming like an extra and an outsider.
Our FOs were way more integrated than our medics.

>>33976071
>be me, 28yo intel fag
>stationed with 25th ID
>running 3-5 miles to carpenter and back every morning
>being taken off-mission to do field training every other week
>ruck marches to kolekole pass
>getting into humvee rollover simulators and practicing unbuckling upside-down, crawling out, and setting a 360, on the weekend
>grass drills, emergency carries
>1SG and CDR never at 0500 PT with the rest of us
>"stractical"

>>33976071
mounted ops are a little more complicated. you need to protect your assets, which include your officers. our heavy weapons companies were mounted and their officers only dismounted after the ao was secured. the medics were typically the drivers too, which i always found to be stupid.

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>>33976038
Thanks for the answer, really doesn't sound as nice as being an officer here

>>33976123
Where are you from?

>>33975967
>be me
>ROTC fag going into third year, the year that essentially decides it all for ya

I can't speak for how officers spend their time day to day on the average grind, but I can tell you right now that the politicization and bullshit competitions are extremely real, even at our level. Everyone except cadre knows who the ass kissers are, and the points system used to rank us school-wise and nationally is such bullshit that while you want your friends to succeed, you're also actually hoping they fail because it's less competition for you.

>have a 3.5 GPA
>Cadet Asshat has a 4.0
>Asshat rubs it in to everyone, gets more points on order of merit list because muh gradez
>Fucker goes to community college but does ROTC at my state school and takes infinitely easier classes than I do
>I'm still ranked higher overall

Once you hit late third year, you start doing more PL type stuff so that by the time you're a fourth year you run the program. Cadre is just there to teach and get you green lights from cadet command. Based on what friends tell me and what I see myself, there is a fuckton of bullshit meetings, paperwork, and PowerPoints that occupy your time (God help you if you're S-3 at a school that does shit).

And if anyone here wants to do ROTC/Academy, know that JROTC kids are the fucking worst. They think they're hot shit because they wore a (worthless) uniform in high school and come in knowing drill and ceremony already, a skill easily taught to the dumbest fucksticks around.

>be on drill and ceremony team
>I'm one of few non-JROTC
>at practice, confusion over whether drill commander was right or not
>voice my opinion
>3 JROTC rangers descend on me, telling me how I'm wrong and don't know shit
>all female
>I end up being right after google search

With that all being said, ROTC is still the best thing I've ever done in life and I don't regret it at all. I'm getting sent on a training deployment abroad at the end of the month.

t. Sham King

>>33976118
Medics in vehicles never made sense to me.
The average company has 3 platoons and a HQ platoon. A senior line medic NCO and the platoon medics for each platoon. But you also have a vehicle.
For example, you have a 113 or Mev Stryker or whatever. A driver, a TC and a medic in the back.

The TC is the senior line medic, the medic in the back isn't with his platoon because he's in the back. The driver, inexplicable is a medic too, so he's not with his platoon.
You only have one medic actually on the ground with people, and he'll be with the PSG or one squad.

And if the medic vehicle gets hit you're down 3 medics all at once.

Medic doctrine in the army is broken and needs fixing desperately.

>>33976168
Good for you anon. Did you have any civilian instructors? I'm a /lit/ fag and did 7 years enlisted. Would love to go back to the Army, but not in uniform. Just starting college now and want to teach one way or another.

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>>33975562
>mfw applying for Border Patrol
>Muhreen, lucky enough to be innadesert for the probably the last major op in the last 4 years and got a campaign badge
>did my own job, spent time as provisional infantry, armory clerk and company clerk at the end
>through bullshit powers, on a resume I'm a security specialist with mechanical experience and extensive experience with various weapon systems, administrative and clerical experience with a "deployment" under my belt
>can also speak spanish fluently
>recruiters tell me I'm a shoe in for the job

You may leave the Military but my desire to be in SOME kind of suck never dies m80s, its just up to you to find it

>>33976225
>You may leave the Military but my desire to be in SOME kind of suck never dies
That's the thing. That's what I'm craving.

I don't want to be in the military, but I do want to be a soldier. I want to be in the suck, getting dirty and tired and having fun. But I don't miss the rules and the formations and the politics and the regimentation of it all.
I just want to run around with a gun and get dirty and feel alive.

>>33976143
Germany OF-1, enjoying my life as a rear admirals adjutant, basically doing some paper work, drinking coffee with staff officers and some traveling

>>33976168
Is the reserve program the only way to become an officer?

>>33976225
yeh, considering this. CBP is in demand where I'm at. Spoke to a local shitbag some months back -- his uniform looked like shit: salt stained, greasy, frayed. Morale is shit, vehicles are falling apart, and CPB doesn't let its agents out of the sector.

What was mreens like? I'm not too old to say no to a three year enlistment (35yo). Already did 7 years Army. I want that EGA anon. And a wook would be nice.

>>33976250
Look into border patrol man, they're looking for vets and from what the recruiter told me, they're looking for grunts or dudes who've been in the suck because the Agency is going to toss your ass right into high traffic areas

Remember that you're a shoe in for most federal and state agencies

>>33975562
If you really miss it, earn your paramedic cert, critical care, RN and shoot for PA. Then go back in.

>>33976258
Its a lot of bullshit and you'll start at the very bottom of the totem pole, I don't recommend it, especially if you know you can't get into the infantry, we had an Army vet who got put in AAVs and he had to go through the whole boot experience again on top of the Amtracker experience

To be fair, he was an asshole because we got a 28 year old with 2 kids come in as a boot and he just stfu and rolled with the punches, everyone ended up liking him a lot and our staff were doing everything they could to get him meritoriously promoted

As for the CBP, I hear morale is at a all time low in my state, they can't really do their jobs and they're low on man power, I plan on making a career on this though so maybe I'll bring some motivation lol

>>33975621
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>>33976336
>that time i got asked by the smaj if i shaved that morning when i hadn't shaved in 36 hours.
like i really give a fuck

>>33976386
that time i got told by the CSM in the shower to tuck my balls in

>>33976425
>that one Major who would wander around the bathroom naked and do his entire morning routine with his dick hanging out

Don't miss being crammed in warehouses, sleeping in open bays with hundreds of other people all sharing the same one bathroom.

>>33976299
Checked, and thanks for the response my man. Yeh, it seems like a good career. And I'm pretty sure your active duty years count towards retirement. Check out Act One of this TAL episode: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/613/ok-ill-do-it Seems pretty standard around here. Frequent river crossers just get processed and thrown back. No shit Mexico is just down the street from me, lots of CPB Jeeps and shitty old Tahoes rolling around.

And I'll reconsider mreens again in the morning. I'm only going to be able to do something like that for so much longer. I don't want to miss out on the experience, all my Army time was CONUS. I know I'll start at the bottom, but that's not really a problem as long as I go somewhere overseas and get paid. Three years is nothing, and I need to get in shape again anyway.

>>33976336
sizing_up_your_sideburns.jpg

"Hey PVT anon I know barbershops can be kind of expensive and it's far from the barracks y'know but how bout some self-care maybe run some scissors on that so it doesn't touch your ears okay?"

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>>33976225

Yeah me too.

>> Did route clearance
>> Never wanna get blown up or see friends blown up again
>> Still miss the blood and guts

I became an EMT. Just started medic school

>>33976052
Before I joined my dad was a lifer who got fucked over with his career. 30+ year career but got fucked over when he went active to national guard and back to active and then retired an E7. Also apparently no one liked him including leadership because he made people do their jobs and he routinely would put officers and leadership in their place and they didn't like the fact that a senior NCO with more than double their experience would show that much "disrespect". He's a hard motherfucker and I wish more people were like him. Now he's a gunsmith with my uncle and living that good life.

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>>33976725
>Now he's a gunsmith with my uncle and living that good life.

Steel... this you can trust.

>>33976254
>reserve
Not that anon, but it's the most common and easy way to get your foot in the door.

Service academies are very selective, and require sponsorship from your local legislator.

On the other hand it's an automatic cheat code when getting quality assignments, competing for promotions, and and networking, because the generals/flag officers are mostly populated by the good old boy's club that attended the service academies.

>>33976792
>On the other hand it's an automatic cheat code
This. USMA grads have political clout and will be forgiven nearly anything.

>>33976254
Nah. There's also direct commission off the street or the Green to Gold program (Enlisted->OCS->Officer).

>>33976052
Welcome to the mentality of the lifer who isn't even a Staff NCO he's just a standard NCO because he got pity promoted instead of being up-and-outed as an E-4. I know janitors that make more than he does.

>>33975965
welcome to management
happens in every job
you stop doing the day the day and get a new day to day full of new kinds of bullshit

fuck. living it right now. get paid more and get to deal with different shit but still shit.

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>>33976792
This way of nepotism is quite uncommon here.
We only have a troop service officers course and the warrant officers course for NCOs. The only to "cheat" is knowing high ranked officers from you daily duty.

>>33976269
They want people used to the suck because it's going to suck for the wrong reasons. Not fun ones, straight shit ones.

Good thread guise, OP do you still miss the army?

>>33975678
fuck that. I absolutely refuse to commission. I'm prior AD but Guard now (mainly because I like living in civilization, only shaving once a month, and having a real job) and my state is so short of officers that all soldiers with 90 credit hours are required to go to an officer recruiting brief every 6 months. We're still only at about 60% officer strength and have more E6-E9 with Masters degrees than we do O1-O4. I personally know 2 E6's with JD's and another E6 with a PhD in my battalion. Everyone E4 and above with a degree knows that commissioning blows.

It's really telling about the military when you have guys who would rather be deployed and getting shot at rather than be back home.

Garrison must truly be Hell.

>>33976177
WTF? I was mech in Korea back in 04/05 and we never had a 113 or any track full of medics. I always thought 2ID was super fucked up but maybe they did do something right.