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Any Battle of Najaf (2004) vets here?

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Any Battle of Najaf (2004) vets here?
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>>33960535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Najaf_(2004)
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>>33960563
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Najaf_(2004)

what are you trying to say? just asking if anyone else here went through that shitfest
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>>33960563
>>33960588
wow, you guys really just stood there and watched those fucks walk out of the city after fighting them for close to a week? That couldn't have been easy
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>>33960717

yeah we kinda did, 3 days of intense battle only to have it end in a stalemate was kinda shitty, but i was glad to get out of that cemetary alive

>mfw a mortar landed in the road 10 feet away from me and didnt explode
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You served with Kidd?
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>>33960766

I was in the same company as Kidd, different platoon
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>>33960812
Small world
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>>33960834

indeed, you C company too?
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>>33960843
No, I worked with him some years later.
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>>33960877

very cool
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>>33960535
SaigaMarine supposedly was
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>>33960717
Not only that but they took arms up against US forces once again in 2006. My whole tour of duty in 2007 in Baghdad was fighting Jaish Mahdi. They were mediocre fighters, but extremely clever and well funded. Their EFPs killed alot of coalition forces during the occupation
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>>33960894

thats saiga with the optic on the carry handle
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>>33960910
Here's a pic from our AO. Used to see Muqti everywhere. Fucked up ass war. He champions alot of support in Shiite communities nowadays from what my interpreter I keep in contact with tells me
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>>33960954

fuckin Sadr
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>>33960963
Yah shit's fucked. JAM was responsible for the bulk of my unit's casualties, and now we're pretty much semi aligned with them because of their support /entanglement in Iraqi politics and Shiite communities, and the continued fight against IS. Hard fucking pill to swallow for me
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>>33960535
Oh man that battle was nuts. A complete Iraqi BTFO
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OP here

fuck man i wish i could go back and finish what we started
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>>33960535
Can anyone tell me about the 2003 battle?
I've looked at that battle for research and had some questions about it. Can you guys tell me if there really was a massive sandstorm on the final? A bus with Iraqi soldier crashed into Bradley and got shredded point blank. Is this true? How did you guys deal with not demaging the mosque? Were there fights in the graveyard? Anything you can tell me would be super awesome.
This also goes for2004 battle, to try to get sense of look and feel of town and it's geography first hand
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>>33961059

was in 2004 battle

fought within the tombs and shit, just a huge pain in the ass to move around, but there was at least cover, lots on 10 meters or less engagements some hand to hand fighting in some spots and some of the first tunnel fighting since vietnam (got to go in one tunnel with the LTs M9, found 2 dead guys in a dug out area as well as some intel and weapons

no shade for miles, just baking in that shit

they told us not to fire at the gold mosque dome, but alot of us popped off a few shots at it anyways, myself included

the pullout is known as the Najaf Mile, nowhere as crazy as the mogadishu mile, but still sucked, just took a lot of indirect fire since our highbacks were full of wounded, its why today i still keep up my cardio in case i ever need to repeat something like that again
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>>33961127

to add to that, we were also told going in that there were close to 1000 IEDs in the cemetary and we were assigned "kill numbers" to write on our boots, i was 151

as you can imagine this did not sit well with us
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that was some crazy shit

still have dreams about it
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>>33960535
>13 dead
>HURR DURR HOW SCARY
why are modern vets such pussies?
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>>33961275

fuck you
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>>33961228
why is the skull so clean?
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>>33961343

we pissed all over it
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>>33961275
>Calls vets pussy
>But only over the internet
Hmmm...really activates those almonds. I bet you're a bad motherfucker
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>>33961275
wounded arent sexy enough for you kid?
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>>33961375
bitch
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>>33961036
It would have never been finished, you could only contain it and at the same time prevent isis from uprising and gaining control in other territories
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>>33961553

you sound jelly you didnt get to commit war crimes
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>>33960535
Is this the battle where a seabee team found a fucking M1A2 Abrams underwater with the corpse of the crew still inside?
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>>33961591

no
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>>33961569
>IS
Jaish Mahdi is Shiite militia controlled by Al Sadr and funded by Iran. They are complete opposite end of the Muslim spectrum to IS
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>>33961275
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op here just wondering if anyone here on /k/ served during that battle, would just like to see what others take on it was
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>>33961743
Just put your trip on Saiga so The Triggering can begin
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>>33961772

cant use my old trip (deleted the password and shit after the "incident")
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>>33961619
im talking about the whole conflict of him wanting to finish what he started. But i completely misread the context, he means to finish the najaf battle right?
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>>33961809
I dunno he could have meant it either way
>>33961795
>deleted trip/PW
Didn't even know that was possible. Make a new trip, you HAVE to
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>>33961825

well when i mean i deleted my trip i mean i had the password saved on a text file i could copy past with, got rid of that


why the hell not its not like i post on /k/ really
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>>33961858
How do you feel about selling your fuckhead friends out to avoid jail time?
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>>33961858
Just keep Bane posting to a minimal eh? The consequences will never be the same
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>>33961888

none of that happened, the story got misconstrued to an insane degree, i never implicated anyone in anything, i was never offered immunity or any of that crap, very fewe people know the facts and im just moving on

>>33961891

youre telling me, i memed too close to the sun, if anything it was a learning and growing experience and i genuinely feel bad for everything that happened


i mostly just lurk gear threads and offer opinions on normal shit as a normal anon
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>>33961888
How the fuck do you know what happened besides shitty internet hearsay?
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>>33961912
It's alright bud I've been in deeper shit than you I barely got out of. Not gonna bust into too many details on /k/, but I was facing two firearms felonies once and the only redeeming thing that saved me was the victim was a complete piece of shit with a record and I had a clean criminal record and multiple combat tours. I still had to pay money, time to the public, classes, etc... It was a wakeup call, but I know how you feel man
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>>33960733

>Ragheads decide to shoot back for once

>Amersharts give up

You guys are lucky Russia defeated both the Nazis and the IJA for you.
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>>33961949

thanks for the kind words hope everything turned out ok
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>>33961981
lol wat?

The nazi's sure, maybe
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>>33961981
They holed up in a fuckin Mosque and GWB gave them a fucking pass. If you know anything about OIF, you'll know that coalition forces continued to duke it out with Jaish Mahdi throughout the war. STFU if you don't know what you're talking about and go back to /b/-rekt
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>>33961981
>slaviboos honestly believe this
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>>33961981
Sounds to me like finishing the battle would have resulted in the slaughtering of the entire city's protective army and maybe even it's politicians as well as the destruction of the really important mosque.

It's not always so simple.
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>>33961912
Did you catch any felonies? I only wonder because it would suck to not be able to own guns.
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>>33960535
Oddly specific request.
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This is why culturalcide/genocide is needed. Either don't go to war at all, or kill every man, woman, and child, then colonize the land. If you don't kill the women and children, they'll just resent you and grow up to have conflict with you again in 20-50 years. Half-assed wars are a problem.
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>>33961591
Go on... am curious
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Based Brent was there. He might tell you about it if you asked nicely in the comment section of a new video.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Brent0331
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>>33962027

no nothing at all, aside from lawyer fees, still hasguns
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>>33962088
That's good to hear man. I'm glad everything worked out for you.
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>>33962066
It sounds great on paper, but post modern interpretation of history would shit all over that army. Just look at the Germans in USSR. They weren't even killing ALL civies, but partisans/Jews in heavily dominated partisan areas. I digress, I think it works in theory but it is impossible or completely against our liberal value system to go that route.
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>>33961912
Anyone can learn from their mistakes, but attentive people will learn from the mistakes of others.

At the very least, that shitstorm will serve as a cautionary tale for /k/ommandos to come. Weirdest contribution ever.
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>>33962136

we can only learn from past mistakes

yes indeed, please be careful with social media /k/ommandos, especially in this SJW climate
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>>33961275
Any number of your buddies getting KIA is a shitfest.

Ragheads don't even care if they die, though
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>>33961992
Yah man shit happens. These little fuck weenies on the net can act hard all they want behind proxies, but 95% of them have never been shot at and never will. Lashing out at you is just them projecting their own insecurities of never being in combat
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>>33962174

doesnt bother me, its fine
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>>33962174
It's 4chan, don't get trolled so much.
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>>33962135
I would argue that we have a falsely liberal system then. It's like having a bug crawl on you and cutting off one of its legs so it can't crawl around and bother you anymore, but allowing it to live long enough to grow another leg so you have to repeat the process again.
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>>33960954
>>33960963
>>33961002


I was in As Samawah in 2009, and we used to see this every time we went into the city. Always irritated me that JAM was the enemy, yet we let them keep a giant fucking portrait of the head of JAM at the main roads into the city.
US Military leadership and missions are cucked.
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>>33962272
That pic and the green flags made my spine tingle a bit
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>>33962263
Most attempted genocides end up that way too, just look at Africas never ending cyclical ethnic warfare. same for parts of the ME too...
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>>33962165
I must have missed the whole debacle. Mind giving a short summary?
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Noone here is a vet, everyone who posts here is just a fudd who owns a colt 45.
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>>33961949
edgy
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>>33962482
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>>33962520
>anime
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>>33962482
There are tons of vets on this board you faggot newfag. Go back to r_ddit
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>>33961127
Pretty sure you're a lying sack of shit.
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>>33961275
>I've seen horrors...

Modern day Vets are the biggest snowflakes of all. Milking the VA system, clamoring for that Gov Welfare. >MUH PTSD
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>>33961383
You're a big guy
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>>33962459
It was a while back but here are the details as far as I remember them. Might be wrong
>/k/ommandos go to dindu rally live streaming while Carrying, including flashing firearms on stream on the way there
>Spout memes IRL
>Word spreads among protesters they might be white supremacists or some shit
>Get chased away
>one of them shoots a bunch of their pursuers
>Get fucked by the long arm of the law
I didn't know Saiga got out of it unscathed though.
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>>33962591
what have you seen that's scary, anon?
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>>33962609
4 U
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>>33960954
>>33961002
>>33961127
>>33961228
>>33962272
Sirs, respectfully, salute from a civvy. Try to pay vets dinner bills, hold doors for em and what not when i can. You guys rule.
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>>33962535
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>>33962672
its cool that youre nice to vets, but that shit sounds gay as fuck and you should keep it to yourself
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>>33962591
Not that you care but the bulk of issues arise out of prolonged exposure to no combat lines/assymetrical warfare. Your average American GI in WWII saw a few HEAVY battles,but little action between. They were constantly on the front, and then back to the rear. A combat soldier in Iraq/A stan could spend EVERYDAY in seemingly normal social life in country, then BOOM it pops off out of nowhere. Then the next day shit is back to normal. EVERDAY for 15 months. Unless you're a straight up anti-social personality type, it will fuck with your mental state, the hardest part being assimilating back into your peer group and dealing with idiots like you.
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>>33962659
saw you're mum shower once
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>>33962657
What a bunch of retards. they make responsible gun owners everywhere look bad.
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>>33962672
I bet you swallow too, fagit
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>>33962659
Was quoting Col Kurtz from Apocalypse Now
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>>33962725
>Muh ideals of war from (((Hollywood)))
Just KYS now and save us the trouble. I was like that at 14
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>>33962696
>Unless you're a straight up anti-social personality type, it will fuck with your mental state

Complete horseshit.
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>>33962704
fuck, I've been BTFO.
>>33962725
I know, but my point is that most likely you haven't seen anything close to what most deployed 11B, 19D, and close support MOS's have seen. Does that mean some POG that claims he's fucked up from a deployment to Kuwait shouldn't be mocked? No, but claiming ALL modern vets are pussies is disingenuous at best.
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>>33962735
>Complete horseshit
OK little buddy. What is your personal experience?
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>>33962731
It exemplifies the weakness the absurdities that most of you "vets" like to purport... that you suffered spectacular torment by being an invading force and being SURPRISED that some took a shot at you or a bomb goes off as you drive over it. You poor little bitch.

Unless you have had a fucking limb blown off or took some shrapnel, or other wreck, your whining is pathetic.

I bet most of the supposed vets on the Internet who claim they were combat were actually fucking mechanics, cooks, maintenance, fucking food delivery crew.
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>>33962672
Why are you calling them Sir, those lads actually worked for a living
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>>33962088
Your dumb but I'm glad you didnt get convicted. Those porch monkeys deserved it.
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>>33962786
>Projecting
Nobody is whining faggot, nobody is saying they suffered spectacularly you're just imagining all that because you're an insecure little man. Just vets sharing their experience on anon image board. People like you are insufferable. You're the fedora tippers of veterans issues
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What do vets think of the drone operators in nevada collecting full PTSD benefits for "witnessing" combat? Shouldn't hundreds of thousands of youtube viewers be getting PTSD too?
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>>33962165
Im glad you arent getting raped in the big house right now, you crazy street-memeing bastard
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>>33962786
I was 11b, and I have tons of fucking pics I took overseas I could post, but I have rare social interactions I have to make. Eat a dick
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>>33961375
Awesome
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>>33962329
So why was Manifest Destiny successful? I think colonization is a key part of it. That's why Culturalcide is a key part. Alcohol, rifles, and Christianity conquered the natives along with genocide.
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>>33962672
SWEET EVER LOVING JESUS YOU'RE GAY AS FUCK, CIVVIE
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>>33962546
Go back to Iraq haji
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>>33962842
>I have evidence but I am not showing you lol rekt
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>>33961383
>Claims to be a vet on the internet
Pretty pathetic dude
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>>33961981

Agree. Anytime Amerilards get in a shootout they duck behind cover and wait for air support.

Take away air support and Amerisharts get wasted.
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>>33962657
Ohh shit yeah, I do remember that. Didn't realize it was him though I guess.
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>>33961912
WERE YOU THAT FAGGOT AT THE RALLY TALKING ABOUT SHOOTING DINDUS? AAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA why
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>>33962672
Fag
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>>33962752
not if your mind is strong
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>>33961915
>Off scott free
>Friends get time

HMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>33962657

He did a plea bargain, and sold his friends out.
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>>33963263
Read
>>33961912
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>>33963279
>I swear guys I dindu nothing
>7 felonies for friend who was an accomplice
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My lawyer said that if I pled not guilty I'd be screwed so I copped a plea got guilty sold my pal out but only got a slap on the wrist cause he ate the charge.
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>>33962066
the women you just have to keep a strong hand over and they'll bend the knee.
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>>33963343

Nice try saiga made a new trip
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>>33961888
You can't get out of jail time if you were never charged. Fuck head.
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>>33962842
>11/b/
More like
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>>33962088
That Joshua tree bullet bill tho..
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>>33962696
#seeingthe72virginsbeforedeath
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>>33963306

>newfag who doesnt know the facts
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>>33963243 not at the rally when shooting happened. Hmmm.. fuck outta here.
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>>33962696

Whenthekushhits.jpg
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>>33961981
>>33963170
same vatnik faggot. USA would literally destroy Russia if it came down to it. Russia can't even take a few abandoned Ukrop farm towns. Total faggots. Someone post that Russian gay army video.
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>>33963263
Too bad the dudes were on their own. Saiga was on a unicorn mission. Followers followed, and got caught up on bullshit. Why you mad bro?
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>>33962714
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>>33960954
Where is this donkey-fucker at nowadays? Is he still cowering like a little bitch in Tehran or did finally found his missing testicles and went back to Iraq?
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You are wrong, and I know everything.
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>>33961343
It was probably dug out or overturned from some grave being exploded.
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>>33962657
Damn I hope only the one faggot got screwed
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>>33962657
>2017
>actually shooting your raifu
s m h
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>>33962657
>go to rally
>blackpowder bro, articfox, Asian fucker, and other dude go to rally
>tell saiga call em off
>they still go
>post up on corner with blm signs
>get approached by blm
>agro conversation ensues
>take off your masks
> blm is wearing masks
>whites boys get hit
>white boys run
>dindus chase
>white boys get cornered and fire

>be days later saiga gets pulled over me on phone
>holyshit bro call me when you get out
>find out white boys call cop buddy
Turn themselves in
>saiga talks about his trip to rally
>unrelated to shooting event
>saiga is off Scott free
>white boys embrace thought of BBC in asses
>I am upset that dindus cry like victims when they are in fact the perps
>Too bad blackpowder bro was a fucking racist
>BBC all in that ass
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>>33960535
no :/
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>>33963744
We used to have threads on here alot years ago and vets would be drunk shitposting and posting pictures. I've posted alot of pictures on here before, back before your reddit immigration, before SJW's/"Progressives" co opted this board
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>>33964098
lol
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>>33962981

Manifest Destiny worked due to technology.

Even if every tribe in the West wanted to band together, form a coalition, and try to stop US interference, it wouldn't have worked because their only mode of transportation was horseback. Nowadays any wanna-be Jihadi can just get in a car and cross a border. This is one of the biggest problems we have in the ME.

All of the different sides may hate the fuck out of each other, but they hate the Westerners more. And since there is no way to lock down the borders, they can just keep coming in/going out without any sort of recourse. Do you honestly think that the armed men that the US fight are actually from Iraq or Afghanistan? Fuck no. They're all dead, or cowed. It's foreigners. And since we can't legally chase them into the neighboring countries, they can just keep doing this over and over.

You get some British National cuck take a ticket to Bum-fuckistan, talk to some Imam, that guy helps them get supplies, and then sends them across the border. You want to end this? Put up a strict no-fly zone, and then start invading everyone else in the area like it's the Iraq War all over again. Fuel-air bomb everything, tanks, CAS, the whole 9 yards. Don't stop until all you've got left is rubble.
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>>33962135
You need to do like Stalin did, random acts of democide, completely wiping out villages from existence just to keep the population terrified, paranoid, obedient and unwilling to take up arms to fight the power. The man was a degenerate communist cocksucker, but he knew how to break a people's will to resist.
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>>33964263
>Be like Stalin
You...you have to go back
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>>33964289
Why, is it because I'm right? There was almost no notorious acts of popular uprising in Soviet Occupied Territories during WWII, and during the Cold War the Russians were swift and decisive to crush any opposition to communism being the rule of day. It's inhuman, but efficient.
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>>33961858
suck a dick thief
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>>33962672
I'm in the Army and I joined for myself and myself alone. I hate when civvies try to buy me things or even talk to me about Army related stuff but I'm just an asshole.
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>>33964098
Is that Saiga? Looks thicc. What a fagit
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>>33964171
so you copy/pasta. got it.

fuck off now
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>>33964363
Yeah because life is Russia is fucking swell. You're an idiot.
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>>33961981
The worst part is that I bet someone out there actually thinks this.
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>>33964363
>what is propaganda
People fought the soviets tooth and nail until it came down to the fact they couldnt beat them
The Ukrainians, Hungarians, Baltics, Finns, etc all fought like hell as partisans
Germans, Czechs, and Poles to a lesser degree, but this was mostly due to the fact Germany killed off all their men in these regions
You would have to literally be retarded to believe the Soviet Liberator meme.
And during the cold war it went on moreso as guerilla fighting and social revolts in the frontiers of the union
I have a good chunk of family that fought against the commies in the Czech republic, but bailed to the states after tanks started to show up
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>>33962692
I wanna fug that kitter
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My old man. Airforce. Over during "The Surge".

The first day he was over there, he saw the body of some kid who shared my younger brothers name. That really stuck with him.
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fun fact: A Marine Designated Marksmen team was tasked to snipe ole al Sadr. They trained for weeks. Don't know they didn't task the snipers, don't ask questions. Last second: mission scrubbed. Al Sadr nearly got his.
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>>33964749
So what do civilians do, pretend that soldiers arent putting their shit on the line and dying for ideals that we get sans risk? Per this board, i should ignore the fuck out of em, or kick them in the balls when theyre back from deployment.
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>>33964749
To be clear I NEVER chat up soldiers, and when i buy em shit its done discreetly and i dont let them know who. Very easy, Sizzlers, see a vet and family, grab waitress, have their tab appended to my bill, leave without making an issue of it.
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>>33960912
how are you posting from jail?
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>>33964363
The USA provoked uprisings then betrayed them by directly telling the Soviets they wouldn't intervene to help the Hungarians or whoever

Never was a bigger supporter of international communism than the USA
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>>33964263
I read out of "The Sword and the Shield" that mentality came from him being Georgian. Apparently they're reall blood fieudy when it comes to the death of a family member. Blood for blood and all that. So with Stalin, he just figured he'd make sure there was no one to hold a grudge. Apply that to being the head of a repressive state
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>>33964749
This is why I never let anyone know or wear anything that indicates I'm a veteran.
I hate talking to civvies about it, but especially to other Veterans.
learned that the hard way going to college

>be me
>be in college
>guy comes in wearing OIF vet hat
>fat, wearing women's sandles with flowers on it
>"So, you were in Iraq?"
Sure was!
>"Oh cool, I was there in 2009"
Oh you probably didn't do shit then! I was there in 2004 and we killed a shit ton of people!
>Like seriously blurts out that I didn't do shit in Iraq and that he killed a shit ton of people so that everyone in class can hear it
>go silent, never talk to the guy again
>mfw I watched one of my best friends die right in my arms after an IED tore him apart

Talked with other veterans too and most of the time it's a "one upper" game with them.
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>>33966455
As a general rule I just don't talk about my time in the military because it inevitably turns the conversation/relationship sour
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>>33964262
Except that isn't feasable.
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>>33966477
yea, I've learned to just never bring it up and even go out of my way to avoid people knowing.

I mean when I first got out, it was still fresh on my mind, I wanted to try out the "veteran" status so I'd tell people and did that for awhile. Not like shoving it in people's faces, but if it was relevant I'd mention it. Even then I didn't walk around wearing hats and shirts and shit.

After a few months I realized that I hate talking about it, I don't like being thanked for it, I don't like people asking me stupid questions, and I don't like talking to most other veterans.
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>>33966508
>After a few months I realized that I hate talking about it, I don't like being thanked for it, I don't like people asking me stupid questions, and I don't like talking to most other veterans.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Although the stupid questions got me the most.
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>>33966576
>did you kill anyone bro
The most honest answer I can give to this question is that I don't know. I've also answered this question only once, and he seemed mildly disappointed, to my complete surprise. It was then that I realized most people probably believe that you see a hitmarker after every hit and headshots get you 200 points.
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>>33965046
Lol
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>>33962551

pretty sure youre an autistic sack of shit who hasnt done anything
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>>33967014
As someone who has only experienced combat via video games, this disappointed guy sounds like most people who want "action" and "combat" without actually having to do all of the hard shit that comes from it. Vets are the closest thing that someone like me will get to experiencing actual combat and by you telling him that you don't know kind of ruined the half-cheap thrill he would have gotten from hearing about killing someone. That doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes that guy a lazy pathetic fuck.

Just my two cents.
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>>33962696

Is he OK?
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>>33962672
Thank you for your cervix
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>>33960910
I was on a TIF in Baghdad in 07, place was full of Mahdi jundis, but I preferred them to the sunnis and foreigners desu.
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>>33966455
>signs up as grunt
>doesnt know this is how grunts are
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>>33966266
This. When my dad came back from Vietnam he got spit on and called a baby killer and a bunch of other bullshit. These guys get free food and booze and get a called a hero then bitch about it I know it's just a shitty fuckin job but people love and respect you for doing it. Accept that.
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>>33966266
No, just give it to the veterans that flaunt it. There are plenty of them out there to show your thankfulness to.
Me and I think this other guy are just saying that we don't like talking about it or being asked questions so we just don't let people know. Problem solved, no one is hurt. Of course if someone knows and gives thanks I'm not an asshole about it, but I'd rather just avoid it altogether.

I'm grateful I'm not being spit on or treated like shit and I really do feel for those Vietnam veterans.

My personal opinion though is that Veterans should neither be seen or heard unless it's extremely relevant or it's Veterans or Memorial day.
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>>33969792
and let me add, that while Vietnam veterans were treated like shit when they came back and are now being treated like heroes and vice versa for GWOT veterans, I think in the end, GWOT veterans will be treated like war criminals. We killed a lot of people man, something like 500,000+ civilians died in Iraq, and for what? So if Communists come to power, we'll be treated like war criminals and if Nationalists come to power, at best we will be treated indifferenetly, at worst as good goys fighting for Israel (which is exactly what we were).
That's another reason I never bring it up is because I take no pride in knowing I literally fought for Israeli/Jewish interests.
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>>33969546
>he got spit on

People are still repeating this myth?
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>>33969846
>We killed a lot of people man, something like 500,000+ civilians died in Iraq


US troops being in-country during a religious purge is NOT the same as being responsible for the deaths.
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>>33963846
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>>33969991
But we invaded their country for basically no good reason, took out Saddam, and then fucked everything up.
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>>33966355
Bro, iam hungarian. You know what was the iron curtain? You dont know nothing about socialism,you idealise it, i predict you didnt even live in it, i just lived a few years init thanks to god.

You claim that the 56' hungarian uprising was suported, it wasnt. I just remember my childhood befoure 90' ,when i went into a shoop with my mom, and there were clouse to nothing on the shelves. Now imagine its 56', you work, you cant buy anything, the intellectuals gets jailed, there are made up plays at the courts, altough the commies live well and it doesnt even matter how they fuck up. The normal guys aint stupid, they figure it out whats happening.... They riseup....

Fun fact to break the vet hate:

But i did read something about it, that we captured the moost modern tank of the Soviets in 56' and drive it to the Embassy to enable that islandnigers can have a look on it.
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>>33962657
The only crime was that they were allowed to go free for meming in public.
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>>33961202
You guys didn't have battle roster numbers? Or is that just an Army thing?
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>>33970028
fuck them. Nobody gives a shit about sand niggers. If sand niggers ran hollywood and pumped out movies about it by the dozen, then it would matter.
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>>33960535
النزول من بلدي العشب، الكافر!
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>>33972182
Get fucked hadji I will not get off your grass

Fuck your people and your stone age religion
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>>33971618
this is why they are bombing and beheading americans
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>>33961127

There were Marines who still had DCU in 2004/
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>>33961127

>Gump, check out that hole.
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>>33962088
This is why I hate most of our state
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>>33963915
He's one of the biggest players in Iraq nowadays.
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>>33969846
How was it for Israel? Why would (((they))) care about Afghanistan? I get why they wanted us to invade Iraq though.
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>>33962088
Nice digits. Good to hear honestly.
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>>33962672

wew
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>>33972539

saiga is wearing them in some of those pics
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>>33975129
its all a straw man argument for retarded vets to have someone to blame besides their own government

>dah jooz made me do it
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>>33962831
I'd think watching a video you have no connections to is a bit different to actually piloting the drone, recording the footage and murdering someone remotely
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>>33961912
Y'all still do Minnesota meets?

Also hope y'all are all right too. Honestly I was pretty pissed at you from all of the rumors. But after keeping up with some of the trial testimony and hearing you wanted them to not go the second day (because common sense). Well that cleared it up for me.
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>>33960733
>mortar
>not mortar round

Sure it did.
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>>33962066
>kill every man, woman, and child, then colonize the land.

Yup.
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>>33963170
It's called combined arms doctrine, pumpkin.

Never send a man to do what good high explosives can do better.

If you shot at me in a building, I wouldn't waste a single man on you, I'd just isolate your building, drop a JDAM on your sorry ass, and leave you in the rubble.

Welcome to the 21st century, sweet cheeks.
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>>33969846
Just KYS already, pussy.

Those fucking sand niggers killed more of their people than we ever did, and they're still doing it today, and I don't know about your shitty unit, but we didn't tolerate murder and tried to adhere to the ROE as best we could.

Just end yourself and clean up the gene pool for us, would ya?
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>>33972539
The USMC going into Iraq in 03' looked like the army did.....in 93'.
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>>33963915
He is one of the leaders of Iraq first movement, trying to resist Iranian dominance.
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>>33975569

please, curb your autism
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>>33975186

Thanks
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>>33965046
>all that gear in 2007 as AF
Was he some special squirrel in the USAF? PJ? CCT? JTAC?
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>>33977956
He was an E-9, Chief Master Sergeant. He oversaw medical operations for the Airforce. Delta dudes, SEALs and the likes would show up in his clinic because Air Force medical ops were waaaaaay quicker than the Army. He also told me that he "Escorted High Value Patients out of the country". I try to learn about his time over there but I don't want to bring stuff like that up with him.
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Yes, i lost my friend Hasan during that battle, cut down by a machine gun fire from a humvee
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>>33978989

Good, fuck him
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>>33972422
They were bombing and beheading Americans far before Iraq and Afghanistan.

They bomb and behead for little to no reason at all.

Places like Iran who call for my death, and funded such actions? I say that I'll be their huckleberry and call for their death.
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>>33975934
The Army went into Iraq looking like the army from 2003 dude. A friend who was in the invasion has pics if him in DCU w/woodland intercepter and A2 and he was infantry.
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>>33975934

The Army was still transitioning from DBDU to DCU (all the Rangers in Somalia were still wearing chocolate chip helmets, many still had the uniforms too) so that's not exactly true.

Also, still better than what either of look after 2003.
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>>33975934

The Army actually didn't finish transitioning to DCU completely until 2002

pic related, was taken in Afghanistan, 2001.
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>>33978989

I'm sorry for your loss. Sounded like a great guy
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>>33969991
Really, the vast majority if civilian deaths in Iraq were from insurgents. The country basically devolved into a religious civil war for 7 years while the US tried to control it all. People who weren't there don't understand just how complicated and retarded it was.
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>>33961981
>bury your enemies in the bodies of you soldiers
>better at fighting a war

I guess thats one way to win a war
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