Closed sea

>>33960267
israel

>>33960267
France. because your question is stupid.

>>33960278
I think that stands regardless

>>33960296
>thinking France has a better fleet than the UK

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>>33960278
>>33960306

Israel has pretty much worthless surface combatants, in both quality and quantity

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>>33960278
>>33960306

Even Greece is more powerful than the kikes

>>33960417
>>33960477
are they as competent tho

>>33960267
>Who would be the most powerful force in the Mediterranean?
The Mediterraneans would be, obviously.

Next stupid question!

>>33960323
if the mediterranean is closed, then yes, frogs would have a better fleet in the med sea than the limeys. you really should make sure your brain is engaged before clicking the post button.

>>33960267
>>33960296

The italians by the number of hulls. I'd go for the frogs in terms of experience, the italians don't do much but glorified OPV work these days, the frogs do much more coalition work and have significantly more recent AAW and ASW experience. It really depends how many of their ships you have in the medditeranean when you close Suez and Gibralatar.

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>>33960782
The UK has a Naval base is the med at Gibralter. not to mention the historical significance and regular usage of Malta, Alexandria and Cyprus.

If France can magically decide their whole fleet is in the med, then so can the UK.

>>33960267
The Turks would kill everyone.

>>33960267
If Suez didn't exist and the Gibraltar Strait was closed, the Mediterranean would mostly evaporate. The deep basin would probably be the hottest place on Earth, and its hypersaline dirt and water would sustain no life. It would be an even more effective barrier to African immigration than the Sea is today.

>>33961146
is there a kickstarter for this? it sounds like a promising endeavor.

>>33960306
Holy shit
I bet this would rock the Russians

Nobody. It would dry up and everything around it would die as the climate would be altered drastically.

>>33960417
>>33960477
Yea, because dirty half trained slickbacks and olive eating hairy backed gorilla men are worth anything in those bucket of bolts ships that are probably running on coal like the Russians

>>33960844
Hmmm this is probably the dumbest post I have ever read.

>>33961223
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messinian_salinity_crisis

Some places would be up to 3 miles below sea level which would make them hotter than death valley.

>>33961215
There was one in Germany about 80 years ago.

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>>33960267
>Who would be the most powerful force in the Mediterranean?

who is poseidon?

>>33960267
I heard the Egyptian navy is the 7th or the 6th by number of vessels + they're considered the world oldest navy from the pharaonic period. Don't underestimate any mediterranean coast

>>33961223
>>33961274
>After the strait closed for the last time around 5.6 Ma, the region's generally dry climate conditions at the time caused the Mediterranean basin to nearly dry out completely within a mere millennium
>mere millennium
yeah, the drying out of the Mediterranean isn't exactly an immediate concern

>>33961258
So dumb that you can't come up with a counter argument.

If you include counties that are partially in the Mediterranean then Russia shits on France.

The OP even says that the UK France and Russia don't count.

Yet you're dumb enough to claim France is the most powerful navy in the region.

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If Gibraltar was closed off, then the Mediterranean would be much shallower. Corsica and Sardinia would be one giant island. Italian penninsula would be much bigger. Sicily and Italy would connect to North Africa via a north bridge, cutting the "Mediterranean sea" in half.

Essentially, modern nations as they exist today simply would not exist in that scenario.

It's pointless to extrapolate current nations on this situation, as the geopolitical structure of the world would have developed along a very different route and modern nations would not exist at all as they do now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

>>33960267
I would have to agree with Italy...command a central position in the water and have the most sophisticated tech/means to produce it and get things to where they need to be easily.

>>33960267
I don't see a point in entertaining this fuckheaded hypothetical.

>>33961755
Calm autismo, he's just asking which of the mediterranean fleets from mediterranean nations has the best combat potential

>>33962480
>If Suez didn't exist, and the Gibralter strait was closed. Who would be the most powerful force in the Mediterranean?

>>33960306
I didn't realise yid navy was this pathetic.

>>33961246
They have to better than greasy smelly jews that would hop off their ship if they saw someone throw a penny overboard.

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>>33961246
This triggers the yid.

>>33961389
kek

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>>33961246

>>33963213
It's a bit of a suggestive phrase, but the guy was actually a pacifist and hoped to bring peace with lots and lots of cheap energy from the blocking dams.

>Inland sea
>Allied nations across the length of it
>Navy
Just get an air force, some mine layers and patrols and call it a day.

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>>33961274

>Using the dry adiabatic lapse rate of around 10 °C (18 °F) per kilometer, a theoretical temperature of an area 4 km (2.5 mi) below sea level would be about 40 °C (72 °F) warmer than the temperature at sea level. Under this simplistic assumption, theoretical temperature maxima would have been around 80 °C (176 °F) at the lowest depths of the dry abyssal plain permitting little life other than extremophiles. One can also calculate that 3–5 km (2–3 mi) below sea level would have resulted in 1.45 to 1.71 atm (1,102 to 1,300 mmHg) of air pressure at the bottom.

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>>33960267
>Who would be the most powerful force in the Mediterranean?
The United States Navy like everywhere.

>>33961598
>Yet you're dumb enough to claim France is the most powerful navy in the region.
I think it is, most of their fleet is based in Toulon, except the SSBN.