henry steel in 357

it's so pretty
I want to fondle it

>>33946841
I went to the LGS and held the 45 colt model. Really nice feel, nice action, aesthetic as fuck

The only complaint I really have is that maybe the recoil pad is unnecessary

>>33946848
I am woefully underinformed when it comes to cowboy rounds, how's the performance on the .45 Colt against it's competitors
my gut tells me I want to get a lever gun in .44 mag but that's probably just video game and movie memes polluting my knowledge base

>>33946855
from a terminal ballistics performance 44 magnum will be better than 45 colt and 45 colt is usually factory loaded at low pressures

really it just comes down to price, I'm not sure which is more expensive between the two but you could check on ammoseek. either way you'd probably want to reload as 44mag is expensive

357 mag not so much

>>33946871
I'm sorry I can't actually answer your question but it was fun having autism roleplay with you

>>33946876
How is answering your question on the difference between 45 colt and 44mag roleplay

>>33946878
It's not like I have the money to actually buy any of this shit

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>>33946881

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>>33946820
I feel like there are two options for levergats: 45-70/30-30 for cowboy fuckery and knowing you can hunt anything in North America if you can get close enough, or a revolver caliber you already own.
If you don't already have a 44 magnum, it's kinda silly to get into something with no crossover with your other funs.

All henry rifles are excellent. Practice reloading singles from the ejection port for dangerous game.

45-70 is master race.

444 marlin is the long range flat shooting big bore. Scope it as a scout rifle.

30-30 is a good third.

45 colt is big slow bullet has its place.

44 mag is big fast bullet but not as big as a 45 colt.

357 is a very fast med weight bullet.

>>33946871
.357 isn't super expensive but the thing is that you can handload it for less than a quarter per round with little effort.

I suppose you could also use .357 brass to make .38 loads (same powder and bullets) to shoot it for even cheaper.

>>33947003
.444 Marlin was created as a substitute for the (then almost gone) .45-70, how is it different performance wise?

Am I better off getting a .357 model in the 20 inch rifle or the 16.5 inch carbine?

>>33947801
I think you'll only ever get so much performance out of .357 from certain barrel length, a handier rifle seems like it'd be the best choice.

Otherwise you could check Ballistics By The Inch

>>33947844
I don't hunt anyway (plus my state is shotgun only hunting). So unless I was using it for HD (.357 out of a 16.5 inch barrel is way more powerful than you need to kill a person) I'd be using it with .38

>>33946820

I got a Marlin and regret not buying a Henry.

>>33946885
Keked softly

>>33946820
No loading gate.


Fuck that shit.

>>33947326
Bullet weights and velocity.

The 444 is better suited to a scoped scout rifle like a long lever action.

The 45-70 is better in close with peep or express sites

>>33946855
You can load .45 LC to levels comparable with 44. mag. Cowboy loads are much less powerful to avoid wrecking antiques and replicas. Lever guns work well with the hotter loads for their caliber. The only except being the most powerful 45-70 gov loadings, which should only be fired in something really beefy like a Ruger No. 1.

>>33948645
why won't someone build a pistol caliber (357) levergun with a fucking loading gate !?

>>33948976
http://www.gunbroker.com/Lever-Action-Rifles/BI.aspx?Sort=4&ca=5000093

>>33948417
But the loading gate?

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Join the pump gun master race. Look at this fucking case color.....mmmmm fuck you can literally jack this rifle off.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/643171717

>>33947801
I have a rossi .357 with a 16in barrel, the thing is ungodly light and handy. Go for the 16in I say.

>>33948392
Yeah then 16" is quite enough
Consider handloading for extremely cheap plinking, .357 brass would last a long time with .38 loads

>>33949113
It's actually really weird that there aren't more pump-action .357s and .44s, you'd think it'd be more common.

>>33951133
Unless you're rich the only way to shoot a .357 or .44 frequently is to reload. Since the majority of gun owners don't shoot enough to warrant investing in reloading guns in those calibers don't sell as well as ones chambered in more affordable calibers. Handguns outsell rifles so you gotta figure the demand for .357 and .44 rifles is pretty low already, then sub-divide that demand by action type and it gets even lower. I bet the current market is pretty accurate on the supply/demand for pump guns.

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>>33946820
I like

>>33949077

That's why I bought the Marlin, and I actually find it not to be a huge deal either way. I don't know if it's just my gun, but I find it to be more difficult to guide rounds home and get them to actually seat in the mag tube on my 357 Marlin than it is to just drop rounds into my 22lr Henry.

>>33951299
how often do you shoot her
do you like her
how you feel about no load gate

>>33946820

>no loading gate

It's what turns me off them.

>>33946855

All .44 mag factory will be powerful from a rifle barrel; trapdoor .45-70 level for all intents

.45 Colt needs handloads or some of the smaller company loads to be in the same range

>>33947003
>30-30 is a good third.

Fucking retarded advice from retards who don't know the first thing about ballistics. Shut the fuck up. The 30-30 has shitty ballistic performance. It drops like a hammer and hits like a limp-wristed faggot. You might as well get a lever in .44 magnum or the Rossi in .454 casull. The only reason that cartridge is around is because old farts jerk off to cowboy action bullshit, which, though arguably more tasteful than AR and AK worship, is still faggotry nonetheless..

Henry now offers a magazine fed lever action rifle, so you can utilize pointy "spitzer" type bullets without fear of a chain-reaction clusterfuck in a tube magazine. The one in .308 would be an excellent choice.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/

>>33952433
cuck tier 4 round capacity tho

>>33952433
There's nothing wrong with .30-30
That said, the Long Ranger is fucking sweet.

>without fear of a chain-reaction clusterfuck in a tube magazine
Honestly that hasn't been a relevant concern for like a century.

>>33952947
It's a hunting rifle, but yes, a 6 or 7 round magazine would make the Long Ranger pretty much perfect.

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.357 is pretty good out of a carbine barrel. Get something with a loading gate, though.

>>33952947
>cuck tier 4 round capacity tho
They are for hunting. Most places don't let you use 30 round clipazines for hunting unless it is hogs or coyotes

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>>33952433
You are retarded if you think bullets will go off in the tube

>>33953038
What scenario do you see yourself in where you need more than the 7 or 10 shots a henry would provide and intend to do active reloading?

>>33953091
It's not so much a question of "need" so much as it's way more ergonomic and reloading tube mags without a loading port becomes annoying real quick.

>>33953091
It's just kind of nice to have.

I like having a loading gate on my shotgun too.

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I actually bought one of those about a year ago and i'm really quite fond of it.
The .357 is a great little round for roe deer and other small game here in Sweden.
I undestand that many of you might question threading it and adding the suppressor but since i use it for hunting topping it off isn't really an issue.

Great little gun and i'd recommend it.

>>33953214

I mainly shoot .38s out of it though powerful enough for the game i stalk with the rifle and with the suppressor they're very easy on the ears since i prefer not using hearing protection since it makes it harder to locate the game.

>>33953332
I don't think .357 Magnum out of a rifle barrel is hearing safe even with a suppressor.

>>33953535

I don't think so either so like i said i mostly run .38s.
Even though it's a quite large can made for 9.3x62 rifle cartriges the sonic crack of the .357 is enough to be uncomfortable.

>>33953662
du sabbar hörseln, man1

>>33953709

Inte med .38spl inget obehag alls av att skjuta.

>>33946820

Rossi is Brazl shit
Marlin is freedomshit

I own a .357 Henry steel carbine with the large lever. I replaced the shithorn sights for some Skinner peeps and a taller front sight. Gun is fun as hell to shot; something about running the lever makes me feel like a cowboi.

Only get the marlin if its old, otherwise get the carbine version simply cuz its handy as fuck and If i recall 16 inch barrel is optimum for a .357 magnum.

>>33953840
Marlin has been passable in recent years.
Not classic good, but not awful.

>>33953214
this is a great little post

>>33953214
>Suppressed lever gun
My fucking dick. I don't know why tastefully done modern updates to lever guns get me going, but I'd love to take something like a Marlin 1895SBL, put a red dot on it, suppress it, and coat it as black as possible.

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I see the loading gate autism is going strong as usual. Glad I got my Henry over any inferior marlin.

>>33954404
>sour grapes

>>33951396
I'm a college student so I dont have the money to do so often, but she's my favorite of the guns I own. The action is smooth as fuck, and I actually went out of my way for a tube loading mag because I pinch my fingers on loading gates too much.

So take that for what you will.

>>33954540
That argument breaks down when you consider that the premium option is the Henry.

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>>33946820
I have one. It's awesome. Tube isn't too bad as long as you're not hog hunting or getting into shootouts at the OK corral

>>33946820
What am I looking at spending for one of these sexy leveractions in 44 or 357?
Any reason not to go used?
Any models I should run away from?

>>33956176

Rossis and newer Marlins don't have the best quality control...

>>33956176
Rossi, Henry, and Marlin all have pretty similar MSRPs that put them around $5-700. It really depends on where you find the rifle. You can find good deals our there too...i got my Henry on the Cabela's used gun rack for $425 after taxes and everything, but that was a once in a lifetime thing and I wouldn't count on finding something like that. Deals are out there if you dig around though. Check Armslist, Pawn shops, Cabela's, etc

are the dark henry's as heavy as the brass ones? The rossi 92 I handled was stupidly light, and the brass Big Boy felt like it was made of lead by comparison.

>>33959143

The steel ones are a bit lighter than the brass ones i think.
My steel big boy feels quite light and handy while walking through brush.

>>33959143
7 lbs for a steal 20 rifle 6.5 for the carbine

So, quality-wise, how are the Henrys?

Like, how slick is the lever.

Does the dumbass-tube get easier to use over time, or is it always kind of awkward

How is the recoil on the .357 model?

I'm starting to grow impatient with a special-ordered Rossi 92 from my LGS, but I know Henrys can be found virtually everywhere, and no one else makes 16" barrel .357 levergats.

>>33960224

Quality wise they seem to be spot on.
Machining, fit and finish are all good, i won't say excellent because yeah they're still quite cheap guns but they're better than what marlin taught us to expect and alot better than rossi.

The lever is really slick on mine, no hangups and i expect it to get even better with time, right now i've only had mine for a year or so.

The dumbass tube design... honestly i load mine faster than my friends can load their 1894s any day of the week, the problem is that i can't top of the magazine as easy as them.
Also with the suppressor it's a bit of a bother since i need to unthread that to actuallty get the tube out but since i only shoot suppressed while hunting it's not an issue.

>>33960315
welp, looks like I may be asking them to order the Henry instead, if they don't have them in the store (last I saw, they had a stack of them). i'll check them out. I've heard overall decent things other than the tube, but I guess I'd rather take the well made Henry to the "maybe pretty solid" Rossis that apparently don't exist.

>>33960357

I honestly don't think you'll regret that choice.
And i forgot to answer your question about the recoil.
It's basically non existant, my niece can shoot it all day and she's 5.

>>33960400
the more I've handled them in person (the brass ones anyway) I've noticed how well machined the insides were. Plus they come with all the nice fixins with regards to being tapped, sling-ready, etc. It's just extra money, but eh, I really want one for deer hunting (Ohio straight-wall-only laws prevent me from using my grandfathers old first-run Marlin 336 .30-30, which is an absolute joy to use).

>>33946820
>no loading gate
yeah i'll pass. get the marlin instead.

>>33947003
found the person that neither owns nor shoots firearms

>>33960484

Yeah there's none of the rough machining that you find on new marlins these days.
Hell two friends of mine bought 1894s in .44 mag and they both came over to my workshop asking me to take off the burrs and generally just make them work.

I think the main problem is that they use really old used up tools in their machines and that the people who work the machines... maybe shouldn't.

>>33953840
nahh, i have two 1895 sbl's and they fucking rock. Marlins been much better lately. Feeding them is a bitch though.

>>33961038
I hear tell that in the recent years that they have got better. They moved shop and got new tooling when Remington/Cerberus/freedom group/who ever bought them out. Also whats sadder then a man who can work with his hands?

>>33961734
>can work with
*can't work with
I guess a man who cant spell.

>>33959143
the steel models are almost a pound and a half lighter than the brass ones

>>33960501
Marlin doesn't make a new .357 levergat. Only .44mag and fuck 44mag its expensive and I don't have reloading equipment.

>>33961844
How's .44 Special in your area?

>>33961844
So get reloading equipment?

>>33960224
They're great, good fit and finish and a top tier warranty. The lever is crazy smooth out of the box.

The tube is only a pain in the dick when you're trying to top it off. You can load and unload it faster than a gate once you get it down.

Recoil on the .357 is super light. It feels like a .22 when you shoot .38s out of it.

They're solid guns anon. You won't regret getting one.