Mini-14

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Because asshurt AR fanboys can't get over the fact that the universe contains a viable alternative to their favorite raifu.

ARs exist, they're lighter weight and have a greater aftermarket.

Mini-14s are great if you live in a ban state though.

Because for much of the 90's they were utter shit. Plus Bill Ruger was a cockholster.

>>33944218
Even in ban states they suck... it's a bitch to load the rock and lock way with those short stubby 10 rounder's.

>>33944237
/thread

>>33944211
I'll take "Stanag compatibility" for $200 alex

>>33944185
because it's a shit choice at they price they charge. it would be fine if it were a sub $500 gun.

I like the Mini-14, my only issue is it taking proprietary magazines. I've heard they're smooth shooters and the aftermarket is pretty decent on em.

I'd love to have one, but building an AR is basically cheap as fuck. So basically it's a choice between building a decent rifle or buying one for double the price and have it great out of the box.

9/10, great rifle, would own.

>>33944241
Just go to a free state and get a thirty rounder.

I live in NJ and get all my mags in PA. Everyone I know who has guns does the same.

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I bought a Mini-14 as an AR-15 alternative. It was a good rifle but I honestly didn't like it. Traded it for a Windham Weaponry AR and I've been more than happy with my decision.

>>33944257
>muh mags
AR-15 mafia plz go

Drop the price, make it take AR mags and we will talk.

>>33944185
as a CAcuck i'd have one if it weren't for the price

>>33944386
Spend 40 bucks on a nice Ruger mag that will last for ever and then stock up on cheap ass Tapco Gen 2's which work fine for recreational shooting.

It's really not that big of a deal.

Mini 14s are honestly great little rifles. They have a real nice action, with a gas system with a history just as good as the AR's.

I'd say that if don't care whether or not it's lego gun like ARs, go for a Mini 14.

>>33944185
A gun not being an AR is already plenty enough to trigger half the board.

>>33944413
>$40 for a fucking magazine

jesus it's an issue now...

I have a truckload of $5 GI mags and $8 pmags

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>>33944185

>>33944413
>tapco
Fuck off

>>33944185
The mini is a great little gun, but it has some issues
>40 dollar factory mags
>no stripper clip guide
>ever increasing pricetag
Things seem to go up 20 bucks every few months

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>>33944185
since the Ares SCR exists the Mini 14 has no real purpose anymore

>>33944556
One of the Mini 14's purposes is that it's not an AR
Some people just don't care for ARs, much like you don't seem to care for Mini 14s

>>33944556
>judging a gun by its purpose
And what about freedom you total fucking faggot

>>33944488
FUCK YOU BILL RUGER!

>>33944595
well sure, you're free to buy a mini 14 if you want of course.

>>33944257
huh, it's almost like some guns have different magazines weird right?

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For a long time the Mini was the poor-man's AR. Back when the rifle was sub-400$. However the 80s and 90s produced rifles had a major issue in the barrel, being it wasn't sturdy enough and made the rifle very inaccurate. You could fix this by attaching a steel barrel or pipe under the barrel to act as a 'stabilizer'.

As time went on, ARs got cheap and Minis were sold less and less, so now there isn't a whole lot of reason to get one.

Also Bill Ruger pissed a lot of people off by not producing any highcap magazines and sued anyone who made an aftermarket that worked. Believed civilians shouldn't have them.

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>>33944556

>choosing a cucked AR over a decades proven wooden stock rifle

jesus christ...

>>33944493
Have you ever used one? They work fine. Use them as better mags and keep the Ruger ones stored away in case you ever need a magazine you can rely on. >>33944467
You don't need a million of them

>>33944803
*beater mags

>>33944413
>40 bucks on a 5.56 mag
>when PMAGs and STANAGs already exist
It's just a way for Ruger to make extra money.

>>33944211
>>33944185
>Because asshurt AR fanboys can't get over the fact that the universe contains a viable alternative to their favorite raifu.
Thread.

>>33944237
>>33944247
Ruger haters pls go no one wants you here

>>33944488
>pls go
Where is your anti Smith & Wesson image? S&W worked hand in hand with the Clintons.

Actually read up on Ruger and discover yourself to be a faggot

>>33944963
When you're talking about an 800 dollar gun what the hell is a couple 40 dollar mags? After that you are set for life.

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gross

>>33945033
Do the politics actually fucking matter?...mini-14 ' s are pretty fucking solid guns nowadays. No its not an ar...but it works and fills a niche that's pretty close.

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>>33945054
>gross

>>33944237
Bill ruger shipped crates of minis to fighters in Rhodesia during the arms embargo for free. He was a good man

>>33944185
I'd buy one if the following criterion were met.
>not made by Ruger
>took STANAG mags
>didn't have that stupid piston cover

I love the concept but hate the problems it has so damn bad that I can't stand it...
WHYW HASNT ANYONE MADE A MAG WELL CONVERSION?!
If we can make AKs take STANAGs why can't we force Mini-14s?

>>33945041
>>33944211
And what does it do better than a cheaper AR besides be legal in shitty states?

>>33945033
Oh believe me.
We anti S&W people exist too.
And anti RRA, anti Springfield, and anti Colt for ignoring us even though we screamed and begged for them to take out fucking money.

Let them all burn.

>>33944556
Good fucking luck finding a one for less than 1K or even the lowers for sale fag

>>33944185

because
>no railz
>cant accept stanag mags
>wood stock (only because its not as impervious to the elements as an aluminium receiver and polymer stock, i personally love the look of wood stocks)

theyre fine target rifles though and i want one

>>33944211
Wow, I cannot believe how accurate that pic is

>>33945411
More durable and less fussy about cheap or shitty ammo

>>33945545
>less fussy about cheap or shitty ammo
Even my shitty M&P Sport runs Tula all day long with no issue.

>>33945545
Both of those are wrong though.

The M1 family is undoubtedly my favorite group of rifles, due to ergonomics and aesthetics. If I was 100% out for performance and price, I'd be forced to go AR, or PTR. But the M1 line has personality that the AR lacks, in its cold metal and plastic. But to me, I see pro-gun as pro-gun. Different, competing designs add flavor: do I want Chinese food or Italian? They need not be enemies.

>>33944237
hi colbert

>>33944185
Because it's a shittier version of the shittiest rifle the US ever adopted. Shooting unarmed civilians isn't hard.

>>33944211
>Fudd stock
>Proprietary magazines
>Open action
>Vastly inferior potential accuracy
>Viable alternative
This is what Fudds actually believe.

>>33945917
>wood stock
>fudd

How Gucci is your AR?

>>33945917
oh look, an AR fanboy

>>33945928
Extremely bare bones actually, I deliberately built it according to its intended purpose: to be very lightweight and accurate. Believe it or not, it is possible to admit that the AR is pretty much the best rifle in its class without being an /arg/ tier mall ninja faggot.

>>33945932
Grudgingly. I used to hate the AR and post all the same stupid memes, but then I turned 18, stopped being a virgin and actually shot some guns and had to admit they were just better and more practical.


None of this changes the fact that the M14 was a shit rifle and the Mini-14 is almost as bad. At least it's not in a stupidly overpowered cartridge, but it's still shit in other ways.

>>33945414
What'd Rock River do? And Springfield for that matter?

>>33944185
I own a Mini 14...I own a Colt m4...guess which one I like better

>>33945976
Crony capitalism.

Basically let a gun control bill pass when they could have stopped it, after they lobbied to get themselves an exception from it. Now smaller manufacturers are screwed and Springfield and RRA are laughing.

>>33945970
Christ you guys are defensive!

>>33944185
Because it is not worth it anymore, for the $600-700 you could buy an entry level ar with mags and ammo that is on par with it.

>>33945992
>any response to my bait is being defensive
Ah, I see you graduated from the Tumblr school of discourse.

>>33944185
No idea. People have preferences, who'd have thought.
They go for about $700-$800 on Gunbroker and other similar sites, So I'm thinking about saving up and buying one and a couple of Ruger mags.
Seems like a neat gun.

>>33946009
>ancient normie meme
>fuddlore
Yeah that's about what I expected from mini fuddteen apologists

>>33945970
I agree the AR is a good rifle. I also believe the Mini-14 is a good rifle. It's aesthetics are much better than the AR, while it's adaptability is lackluster. That's pretty much what the entire thing boils down to. At least in most cases.

The mini worked well for the gunman in the 1986 Miami-Dade shootout.

>>33946020
It's all good man...u wanna go shoot sometime?...I just love guns.

>>33945970
>but then I turned 18, stopped being a virgin and actually shot some guns
What if I told you I'm not a virgin and I love shooting my chink M14

>>33946051
I'd love to have a chink 14...I'd say your lucky

>>33946021
>my nostalgia rifle is just as good cause it's better at a thing that doesn't matter and worse at a thing that does
There's nothing that the Mini 14 does better than an AR (except completely subjective things like aesthetics, although I personally think it looks stupid and outdated) and a whole lot that it does worse.
>exposed locking surfaces
>exposed extractor
>no dust cover
>harder to disassemble
>weak dogleg oprod
>requires custom work to free float the barrel
>still isn't going to be as accurate for the same reason the M14 is terrible in that department
>proprietary mags that are either more than three times the cost of AR mags or unreliable
>open action
>fudd stock that reduces controlability and has no practical benefit outside of ban states

>>33946051
I'd say you have shit taste.

I love shooting my Henry lever action, but that doesn't mean it's a good gun.

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I'll agree that an AR outpreforms the Mini-14 in pretty much every way and the AR aftermarket is worlds better than the Mini-14's.
Not to mention the proprietary magazines for it are really over-priced. The Ruger made ones anyways.
The Mini-14 isn't really a viable alternative to an AR from a preformance standpoint.
The reason I bought a Mini-14 is because I prefer it's aesthetics over most AR's and the proprietary magazines don't really bother me that much.
It a quality rifle, but if your looking for the most bang for your buck, you should probably get an AR.

>>33946076
>I love shooting my Henry lever action, but that doesn't mean it's a good gun.
Define "good gun".
I mean it's a great bench queen but I wouldn't bring it to a civil war or something.

I always wonder how many of us fags have actually ever touched a gun...

>>33946094
>Define good gun
Meets or exceeds the standard of practicality for its class.

If it's just a range toy then I say buy whatever you find fun, it's a free country. But don't say it's a viable alternative when it's objectively worse in every category that matters, while also being more expensive.

>>33946119
>don't say it's a viable alternative
I don't remember saying that.

>>33946111
I think the bare minimum for most people on /k/ is taking an indoor range trip with a 10/22 or a 20 gauge as a child.
Ownership is basically out the window at this point.

I'd say 75% of everything said here is total BS...

>>33946134
Lol...I'd have to agree anon

>>33946134
It gets worse during the summer when all the underage b& /pol/ crossboarders get out of highschool.

>>33946152
It's may...school is getting out...bring on the bullshit

>>33946152
You can't just blame everything on /pol/. Yeah, the crossposters can be grating at times, but it's not like they make up the bulk of the board or its discussion.

>>33946163
So a bunch of newfags learn a mild amount of info about firearms and the right to bare arms? I'm willing to sit through dumbass posts if knowledge proliferates itself.
Same as last year.

>>33946172
Checked...same as always

Anybody got a shot or a beer to spare?...just ran dry

>>33946180
>>33946197
>>33946163
I'm willing to bet I just gave you 3 (you)'s

>>33946201
Fuck ya got me...guess I owe you man. What's your pleasure?

>>33946210
Cherry Pepsi and a side of stop-using-so-many-goddamn-ellipsis.
Ice cold.

>>33945069
>Do the politics actually fucking matter?..
Vote with your wallet, fag boy.

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>>33946217
For you my dude

>>33946252
Good job.
Now go clean your guns.

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The Mini 14 is the ultimate tactical weapons system.

>>33944488
>complaint
Lern 2 rite

>>33944556
Try finding one in stock and try getting Ares/Fitelite to stop having shitty customer service.
The Truth be told, the demand for Ares SCR is higher than production and Ares for some reason is being butt hurt that this product is selling like hot cakes, but not their MCR AR-15 belt fed piston light machine gun stand in.

I don't know why they are refusing money and not dropping the MCR line to make more SCR's

>>33944690
That cucked AR-15 will out perform you Mini-14 without trying.

Even on youtube a die hard nyc sports shooter who used mini's his whole life was blown away by the out of the box accuracy of a stock Ares SCR rifle with it's shitty pencil barrel upper.

>>33944211
Fpbp

>>33944185
>>performed well for Breivik
>>used in the Hollywood shootout
>>saw action in Rhodesia
>Why does the mini get so much hate here?

None of those situations mean shit, try again when your pet gun has actually been combat proven like the AR weapons platform. Some people trust their weapons to go bang when they pull the trigger, that's not a high priority for the gaggle of suicidal nobodies you mentioned.

>>33944185
Because it's a rifle in .223 that isn't an AR, and that pisses AR fanboys off to no end.

>>33944658
it's literally the most common mag ever.

every single gun maker that wants to make a viable .223 semi auto rifle or pistol uses them.

EVEN RUGER USES THEM IN THE PRECISION 223 AND AR556

so why do they insist on fucking using proprietary mags? rock and lock? the mini 30 could have used ak mags, yet they again went proprietary.

>>33944185
It's overpriced a little and the AR circle jerk never shuts the fuck up. I own both. I love both. The mini and are 15 do the same fucking things, but both have their advantagesf and I prefer the mini to the area in many regards

so...can you top load Mini-14s like you can with an SKS? something I've always wondered.

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>>33946217
>Cherry Pepsi

fucking degenerate

>>33944257
why do you speak like a faggot

>>33944185
Partially fuddlore about accuracy, because old 180 series barrels were thin and flimsy, providing mediocre at best accuracy in ideal conditions and with good ammo, and getting hot really fast so your groupings opened up pretty fast.

580 and later series Mini-14 rifles don't have that issue, and considering the style of action and general layout of the gun, the accuracy is not bad, 3MOA is easy with a new one.

>>33944211
Well, the AR actually IS better, it's just that this doesn't mean the Mini-14 isn't good.

>>33944237
That goes back further than the 90's. Also Bill is dead and buried, the company has transformed radically in the past decade.

>>33944241
Wedge/tape two 10rd mags together, Canadian style.

>>33944386
It doesn't have the AR15s massive aftermarket or economy of scale for that, the AR15 used to be pretty expensive too when only Colt made them and could charge an exclusive price.

>>33944386
Also making it take AR mags would require changing the design to have a lengthened magwell to reach the mag catch.

>>33944467
It's not as common or widespread, look back in time when the AR was new, magazines weren't nearly as cheap.

>>33944488
>buh wat about bill?
Nigga's dead and gone, the company is better without him.

>>33944493
Their AK and Mini magazines actually work pretty alright.

>>33944556
Which would be relevant if they were less expensive and easier to find. The SCR is great but it lacks the market presence.

>>33944963
They're not making a military pattern mag for a rifle that takes cheap military surplus mags, go make your own rifle with it's own mag and see what it costs.

>>33945545
Not really.

>>33945970
It's also possible to think the AR15 is the best while really liking the Mini-14.

>>33946238
You know Bill Ruger is dead and Michael O'Feifer spent the last decade undoing all his fudd bullshit and shady practices, taking the company to heights Bill could never dream of?

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>>33944690
>Not turning the Ares SCR into a wooden beauty

>>33944411
I'll say, priced one the other day...$1200!

I'm afraid to buy one and then they come out with a Mini-14 that takes AR mags the following year, like the dupes who bought a Mark III weeks before the Mark IV came out.

>>33948322
I'm surprised Ares hasn't made that an option from the factory yet.

>>33945545
Welp, I guess the Mini 14 proponents are just as clueless as the AR fags they despise so much. Fitting.

>>33946588
>rhodesia doesn't mean shit

K

>>33948848
You projecting your black-killing fantasies onto something does not make it meaningful

>>33944185
Because it's one of the few gats legal in ca so the price is insane.

>>33946628
>so why do they insist on fucking using proprietary mags
So Ruger can make more money since they're the only ones selling decent mags for that rifle. The Mini-14 mags even look like STANAGs, they just aren't compatible. It's fucking stupid.

>>33944356
How is that rear sight treating you? Ive got one myself

Ever notice that they haven't been used against suicidal Islamic barns? Huh?

>>33944257
>>33944276
Mini-14 has longer mags

>>33946588

Yeah if your just shooting civilians any rifle will do.

The AR have been adopted in some form or another by nearly half the world. The only military to adopt them besides Rhodesia was Bermuda.

>>33946272
>that mount
just jam my shit up senpai

>>33944386
Tapco mags work fine and they're $20

>>33949128
There were black Rhodesian soldiers killing commies you fucking nigger

>>>Reddit

>>33945144
that grip ruins the entire fucking gun

>>33944218
>ARs exist, CAN BE lighter weight and have a greater aftermarket NOW.

>>33944386
>Alter the design and tooling while somehow making it cheaper
Yeah OK

What you actually mean is you want 10 other companies to start cranking out minis with minor variations until it hits a saturation point and the price is substantially lowered

>>33944963
You do realize that the mini came out long before the AR boom of the 2000s and it never had a reason to play to NATO commonality game. In fact most guns don't use the same mags as other guns and this shit is only ever brought up with AR mags.

>>33945400
Why don't you do it. It's clearly a cheap and easy fix in your mind so go ahead, give the people a fix that doesn't add another $200 to the cost of the rifle. Start building your own minis while you're at it

>>33945475
They've been making poly stocked guns for at least a decade and offered EBR style stocks and rail adapters for the longest time

>>33949406
It works great. Came loose after about 100 rounds, but after some blue loctite it's been rock steady ever since. I can easily punch fist sized groups at 100 yards with 'em.

>>33946076
You can say aesthetics don't matter and then legitimately say that a traditional stock looks stupid. As a whole you are of the mindset that there is only one right way for a gun to be good or enjoyable as if you're selecting a service rifle for you're own private army, but that's not the case. You don't like it and that's fine, but that wouldn't stop the gun from serving the vast majority of shooters just fine

>>33946094
>I mean it's a great bench queen but I wouldn't bring it to a civil war or something.
I feel the exact opposite

>>33946119
You realize it was the standard of practicality in its class for decades right. The AR is just an exceptional gun with a shitload of work poured into it by the mil and third party for several decades.

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>>33946272
I'll take two

>>33946588
You mean like the AC556 and the export minis

>>33946628
Those are newly designed guns and the mini was designed decades before $8 pmags where all over the place. You may as well be asking why all guns don't use glock or Beretta mags.

>>33949315
Are you a teenager?

I have one and like it but I only bought it because I live in a cuck state. I wish I'd bought an AR instead when I had the option.

>>33951067
I love her to bits but she's a bit on the pudgy side, m8

Because noguns mallninjas hate people buying guns that are just for fun.

<3 Levergun lover

>>33944257
I really hate the whole mag compatibility mess. It's moderately convenient, and beyond that has absolutely no benefit but AR and Glock fanboys tout it as being as important of a feature as the gas system or ergonomics

>>33945411
Nothing, what you just described is it's best asset. It doesn't do much, if anything, worse to my knowledge though.
I'm a Leaf, and I want one because the RCMP don't think it's scary.

>>33945411
That's literally it, tbqh.

I guess maybe this is the right place to post this.

I live in NJ and am considering a 300 memeout Mini 14 but unlike the .223 guns that are available factory with a five round mag it looks like all the blackout guns come in the box with a twenty round mag. Does that mean no gun stores in NJ are going to stock them? Or can I order one with a five rounder as well?

And I know the whole idea of blackout is because the AR mags are the same as .223, but does that apply to the Mini's magazines or did Ruger fuck it up?