Helicopter thread

>>33938556

You can at least post more than one fucking picture you retard.

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>>33938829

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>>33938841

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>>33938866

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>>33938936

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>>33938954

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>>33938982

Malaysian Army Air Corps M134 Minigun training on AW109.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-4oJ4WY-8

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>>33939000

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>>33939018

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>>33939025

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>>33939031

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>>33939054

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*blocks your path*

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>based UH-60

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>>33938984
what is this anon?

>>33938556
How difficult is it to become a pilot if I join the air force? I know jets are crazy competitive but copters pilots?

>>33939140
Join the army if you want to be a chopper pilot

>>33939167
>apache.jpg
>counterrotating blades
¿Que?

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Marines still use Vietnam era helicopters

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>>33939124

MI-35 Super Hind. South Africa modernized MI-24 Hind. Used by Algeria and South Africa (To supplemented their Rooivalk).

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>>33939269
thank you

>>33939240
All of the us still uses Vietnam era rifles.

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>>33939167
>apache.jpg
>Russian flag visible in background

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>>33941860

>>33938556
Raider or Valor, /k/?

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>>33938556
I am forever and always a Kiowa anon.

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>>33943626
>>33943626
>>33943626
F

>>33943626
Army vs marines
The osprey won in the end RIP my helicopterfu

>>33939062

What is the actual intention of putting Hellfires on these?

What are they supposed to engage?

>>33943915
Brown people, boghammars, assholes with machine guns, maybe a small missile boat.

Though I guess the first three tend to be the same thing in naval contexts.

>>33938841
Nothing sexier than a Havoc. Though the slick and simple form of the Huey also gets my cock rock hard.
>ywn have a threesome with a huey and havoc

>>33943857
Didn't they also take the funds from the Comanche to modernize the Blackhawk with a glass cockpit and such in the UH-60M?

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>>33943083
Did you mean SB-1 Defiant vs V-280 Valor, anon?

>>33939240
To call the modern huey and cobra "vietnam era" is like saying your 72" flat screen is the same as a 12" console TV.

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Sexist ASW heli made

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*blocks your path*

>>33944450
You are correct, I keep forgetting about the change from S-97 Raider to SB-1 Defiant.

So, /k/, which?

>>33944450

both, at the same time.

More Venoms and Super Cobras please!

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oldschool

>>33947426
Always see these flying over my house during the fire season.

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>>33945718

NO!

>>33939140
Another anon said it, but I'll say it again.
Join the army if you want to be a helicopter pilot.
The army has thousands of helicopters, the airforce has maybe more than one hundred, this makes airforce very competitive, whereas in the army it's more or less pass or fail. You will also get much more flight time in the army vs the airforce. The army also has more vairied mission sets.
Wanna do special shit? Special shit is 160th and 160th is army.

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>>33938556
Dem shapes.

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>>33940321

>>33938556
I fucking hate helicopters.

It's just a metal box that flies.
Just think about it. A fucking metal box that flies

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>>33941949

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>>33947926
You just went full retard. Never go full retard.

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>>33947942
Look at that, it's just a metal box that flies.

Remov them, it's spooky

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>>33938556

I like this cutie.

>>33939124
>>33939269

God damn. The front of that thing looks absolutely monstrous, but then as soon as you look behind the pilot's canopy the whole thing punches you in the face with a geriatric fist from the 1950's

>>33943626

Comanche was always going to be a retarded idea my guys.

>Let's make a stealth helicopter!
>Yeah, but aren't helicopters typically used for CAS?
>I guess, but STEALTH!

Focus on survivability and range, fuck stealth.

>>33938556
What is the point of this helicopter? If you want something for firepower, get a Cobra or an Apache. If you want something for transport, get a regular Huey or a Blackhawk. What's the point of a Huey with tons of arms but not much transport capacity?

>>33948598
DONT INSULT MY HELIFU!!!!

>>33948688
What's the point of the Blackhawk DAP? It looks cool and our engineers were bored.

>>33947426
gee bill

>>33948712

I am just sayin'.

The Stealth BH used in the OBL Op was way more useful because it was meant for interdiction and getting people in an area without alerting anyone. Meanwhile a CAS chopper like the Comanche would have been pants on head retarded for stealth. Ooga Booga's with RPG-7's would still be able to shoot at it without a problem so long as they can fuckin' see it.

>>33939043
Nice

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>ssssssssip

>>33946301
I'd honestly go with the V-280 Valor. Speed and range are better than the SB-1 Defiant and I'd like to see the tilt rotor concept take off.

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>>33938556

>>33949512
>3K-Max1200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEx3dJTIjww

has a cool sound on apporach

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>>33938556
Fuck your heloshit. This is now an Osprey thread.

>>33939240
if you havent realised a lot of our tech is 30/40+ years old, just improved on. if its aint broke, dont fix it situation

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FVL when?

>>33949368
The DAP has more range than an Apache, can refuel in flight, and I think it can actually carry extra ammunition inside, something the Apache can't do.

>>33943933

it looks so weird without the nose

>>33951042
Remember when those Royal Marines rode on an Apache?

Does anyone here have their Helo license?

>>33950139
I didn't know they could go so that fast

>>33950177
Hopefully never.

>>33953237

They actually can go surprisingly fast and have not too terrible range. The new massive helo that the Marines ordered (I can't remember it's name) is effectively worse in most ways. I think the only upshot is that you can fit more of them on a support carrier. I'm really surprised to be frank, it took forever, but it seems like the finally figured out how to make the Osprey work. Which in itself is a good thing, since if you have a functioning platform - then the next vehicle to iterate off this technology won't need to start from scratch in terms of learning what does and what doesn't work.

>>33953237
Ospreys are fucking magic.

I think that battery powered flying vehicles might be the next step for helos used by Tier 1 guys or at least helo-type vehicles.

Did you guys see that flying "car" video from a few weeks back? The entire thing just runs off batteries. It has a carry capacity of somewhere around 200kg IIRC, but it can only go a few miles. However! And I think this is key, it is extraordinarily quiet, and on top of that - I know what electric vehicles running for hours look like under FLIR and IR. They are essentially just radiate the same temperature as their ambient surroundings due to absorbing the heat/cold of the air/light. This would in theory make them invisible to heat seeking MANPADS, and if you slather a coat of radar absorbing paint/material on their already small frames it makes them that much harder to pick up.

Case in point, the BH's during the OBL mission weren't detected by anyone other than people nearby who thought it was just the military doing training. Now imagine you've got a vehicle that not only doesn't really show up very well in thermals, but is practically immune to heat seeking/radar guided munitions, no one knows it was there because it doesn't make much noise plural, and the radar sites don't pick it up as it comes/goes.

I am imagining a sort of mini-helo, like the mini-subs used for DEVGRU and so on that are attached to the USS Seawolf and USS Jimmy Carter. Just a couple of extremely small vehicles, that deliver guys to a point, they do an op, and they are gone without ever leaving any trace.

>>33953459
Makes me wonder how many of these programs are out there. Not necessarily top secret but secret level things you have to be read in on. There's still almost no information about the stealth blackhawks on the internet. What other air vehicles are out there which we know nothing about?

inb4 aurora

>>33953561
6th gen fighter jets may or may not already be in service

>>33953561

Probably a lot.

It really doesn't take that much to make proof of concept vehicles. Look at the entire X-Class of planes for instance. Making one off's or just a few aircraft is easy as shit to do. The real problem is when you need to consider how to make thousands of them, and then factor in survivability, etc. Test pilots know that the plane they are about to get into has a pretty good chance of just disintegrating around them at some point.

I like to look at technology on the market, or technology people are planning on bringing to market and then try to assess whether or not the military might have already done the same thing. I don't think for an instant that couple of nu-males out of New Mexico with a plexiglass "car" and some brushless motors running off lithium-ion batteries suddenly came up with anything new that the military didn't at least think about making at one point or another.

Case-in-point: The CIA has black patents. Basically these are patents that will remain classified until someone else brings the same technology to market, at which point the CIA can reveal their patent and enforce it. This happened a few years back when a couple kids from MIT (IIRC) deduced a way to record conversations through glass via lasers and wrote a paper on it. The CIA immediately revealed their patent afterwards.

>>33953664
>record conversations through glass via lasers and wrote a paper on it. The CIA immediately revealed their patent afterwards.
That's pretty fucking neat. It kind of amazes me that CIA even hires people smart enough to do shit like this.

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>>33953120

Yup.. flying some contract work in less developed countries mostly. There's an american uh72 lakota driver lurking here as well I think

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>>33938556
>muffled soi soi soi soi soi

>>33954106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4YGSlOVmM0

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CH-53s are bad bitches

>>33954160
Man, I really need to make time to go tour that place. I had no idea they had one of the Commanche prototypes on display!

>>33954035
how do you like it? I've been looking into getting my license

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>>33938556

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>>33954232

>>33954188
You do, fantastic looking aircraft that must be seen in-person. I was there a couple weeks ago, I really can't wait for them to do the expansion so that they can bring all the cool stuff out of storage for display.

>>33954273
that's not a helicopter that's a plane

>>33947926
I fucking hate planes.

It's just a metal tube that flies.
Just think about it. A fucking metal tube that flies

>>33954330
* correction
>>33954261
>>33954273
those aren't helicopters they're planes
didn't notice the other one :P

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>>33954330
>>33954341
by definition it's both

>>33954341
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
**CORRECTION

>>33954273
>>33954261
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>>33954212
>>33950199
>>33950177
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>>33950157
>>33950151
>>33950145
>>33950139
>>33944450
Those aren't helicopters, those are planes

>>33954363
dats da joke

>>33954373
You're so fucking racist. What's wrong with you?

>>33954397
so its a transgender plane?

>>33949400
the comanches concept was to find targets for apaches.

>>33951042
there is literally one company of DAPs in the entire army and they are flown by former apaches guys.

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*Blocks your path*
*Destroys your fleet*

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>>33954217

If, and only if you truly have a passion for all things rotary should you even consider it. Terrible career compared to fixed wing let alone non-aviation fields. As a helo jockey you're a specialist that is only needed when there are no other options, and you better be ready to move around for the rest of your miserable life chasing work making money that someone with a proper education and a half a brain gets only 5 years into their career. My suggestion would be to do something else that is even remotely interesting that makes you enough dosh that you can fly as a hobby.

That being said I thoroughly enjoy it since I've no children, no ties to any country, and it's a skillset that I can practice pretty much anywhere in the world where rotors turn

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>>33938556

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For some reason a lot of you think Kiowas pilots are crazy. In most cases that is very far from the truth and they are just as dorky as all the others. However in 2011 there were two pilots in my unit (6-6 Cav) who got so excited upon seeing enemy insurgents in a truck, they flew right into the truck and died. It's sad that they died and all but I still find it so hilarious. I don't even know if they killed any of the insurgents but they and their Kiowa were toast.

>>33938841
Can someone help me understand why Russia operates both Havocs and Alligators? They seem completely redundant.

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>>33954839

>>33954633
>Ties to no country
>Anywhere in the world where rotors turn
Ellis?

>>33954449
I still don't understand why some autist was freaking out over a Venom with rocket pods. Taking a transport helo and putting munitions on the outriggers is awesome. It's a cheap, reversible gunship.

>>33948598
The base idea was for something like the Kiowa, but stealthy. Aka, sneak and observe, call it targets for the big boys. Now, strapping 16 Hellfires on it, on the other hand...

not really a Helo ... but shiiiet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJs-Z6jXn2M

>>33956569
Are we still getting Drone Little birds for Apaches?

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>>33954232

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NH90 is A E S T H E T I C

>>33956654
noooouuuu

the german navy versions has corroding/ rust problems. the army versions can operate because they are sitting in the hangar.

guess what. french build them. they also build the A400M which is also fail. airbus is shit.

>>33956654
where is the wire cutter?

>>33956654
Visually yeah, but operationally they suck because of incompetent manufacturers

>>33938966
Best girl

Don't AH-1Z/UH-1Y have DIRCM like Apaches and Blackhawks?

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>>33947926

A a huge Hugues

>>33956594
God i hope so

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>>33956842
Again a huge hugues

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This counts as a helicopter?

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>>33956824

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Half helicopter half jeep all crazy

>>33956676
>>33956720
Is this 2014? Most corrosion problems have been fixed 3 years ago already, when the Dutch Navy first complained about them and halted deliveries. 3/4rd of the problems were easy fixes (e.g. applying grease/paint/sealant) and were done within months.
It's operational history differs a lot per country because pretty much every country has a different version with different sonars, engines, comm systems, etc. But most NH90 TTH/NFHs hit FOC years ago. The only thing that is limiting it operationally is parts availability and that NHI is still rolling out the Final Radar Configuration to give the NFH version full ASuW/ASW capabilities.


>>33956678
It's not on the NFH variant

>>33939141
>BBC
BIG BLACK CHOPPER

>>33954188
>tfw I live next to Fort Rucker but haven't been to the Army Aviation Museum in about five years

>>33956848
>>33957036

https://youtu.be/kERji-vwPlA

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>>33941949
>Is this a lifting competition?

Step aside kids. Give Grandpa a try!
Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave

>>33938886
Jesus, fix that intake grate

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>>33946026
>Lifting things that fly.

Step aside Ivan

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>>33957205
Hmm.

>>33948688
The Iroquois was the first gunship anon.

They proved the concept and then they built the cobra.
Google Razorbacks in Vietnam.

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>bong engineering

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Omju2fjCtw

>Yeah but no but yeah

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>>33957205
>>33957216

>>33955687

I can't really explain why but there is a trend of the Russian armed forces to often have multiple different pieces of equipment for the same role and this ranges from services rifles, to utility vehicles and aircraft. So while the obvious western standard suggests that having two units that do the same thing dictates redundancy, the Russian view is to continue developing and keeping these units in service regardless.

>>33957483
>>33957489
here we see the rare mi-10 in diffrent stages of feeding. to this beast even 8ton pray falls with ease

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>>33957507
Look at his face. This hornycopter is obviously mating.

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>>33957537

>>33956591
nigga thats ARMA

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>>33955687
Long story short Ka-52 was intended as a command helicopter, but then they decided it would be nice to have a whole bunch of them since it have great potential in naval and attack roles, while at the same time having Mi-28 as a heavy armoured gunship Hind successor.

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>>33957503
>different pieces of equipment for the same role
It's not quite the same and it barely extends beyond tanks and rifles.

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aesthetic

>>33957641
That one Hind is really kawaii uguu~

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>>33957686

>>33938866
I be the CIA already has those thing hauling drugs and guns.

>>33957860
>hauling
You mean securing.

>>33943704
Dat horizon fade camo is sexy.

>>33947926
It can do things an airplane cannot do. Ergo, it's a valuable piece of technology.

>>33954448
fug

>>33954339
This nigger gets it

>>33956824
You gonna pray to god with that cross?

>>33958470
Only thing I can think of is dropping commies out of them that's special to choppers.

>>33959485
>don't think helicopters are the greatest thing ever

Admit it, you are homosex.

>>33954249
I'm hard.