QTDDTOT

What's a good rail cover I can get? I looked at Knights Armaments, but they are out of 4 rib pieces.

>>33934271
His loss, you're capitalizing on his emotional outburst. Even if you don't like SA you can buy the trp and resell in a couple of months for way more than that

>>33934334
I plan on keeping it, was looking for a decent 1911 for under a thousand and this guy has zero offers. Feel like it'll sell by tonight

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What is a fair price for a mosin now? I know they have been going up but $300 on gunbroker seems like a little much

>>33934344
mechanically nothing has changed about the gun, it's fundamentally the same as the $1000+ gun it was a few months ago. Now it's just half off.
As long as you don't mind autists here giving you shit for your "cursed" gun

>>33934365
To add to this,
economically nothing has changed either. If you've taken a basic economics course, you'd know that buying used goods does not add to the GDP. No productivity is added to the economy if you buy something that has been bought before.

>>33934388
and because I'm retarded and forgot to finish my post,
you're not actually giving any money to Springfield by buying a used pistol.

>>33934388
Yes econ bro, but when RRA and SA tried to establish a oligpoly within Illinois do you think they'd compete in the bertrand or cornout models of duopolistic competition?

>>33934365
I bought it, the guy said he bought it a month ago and has the receipt to prove it. He even threw in a couple mags with a 10 rounder

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>>33934679
>He even threw in a couple mags with a 10 rounder
Meanwhile at SA...
>please buy our shit

best bore sight to get?

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>>33934704

Are there any cheapish nods that will work well over glasses? I have seen some on ebay that look like a digital camera with a headstrap that are supposed to work with glasses, but I'm kind of turned of by the size of them.

Are bore snakes a meme, or are they actually legitimately good at cleaning? I've heard people say they're only good for quick and dirty cleaning, and that a proper rod with all the fixings is the only way to get your bore really clean.

>>33934704
they do that shit all the time though. I got in on it for both my XD and XDS, it was glorious considering new mags cost 25$+ each. Also, fuck IL, no one gives a shit.

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What gun is this? Look like it's been chopped down from something else

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Can anyone identify this bag? My Enfield No4 Mk1 gas mask came in it when I ordered it from a surplus store.

>>33935392
Chiappa Rhino.

>>33935484
Dutch civil guard bag.
Or something like that, I remember seeing them for sale a few years ago.

>>33935498
Ass

>>33935484
>>33935513
I was close, it's a Danish civil defense gas mask bag.
https://www.keepshooting.com/danish-civil-defence-shoulder-bag.html

Buying a remington 1911 what can i expect?

What's /k/'s pick for a CA roster handgun these days? I have a budget of around $600 and want to get something to keep on the nightstand and to take to the local indoor range for fun, and maybe to do some IDPA matches or something.

>>33935282
Those are also the same people who reapply thermal paste to their CPUs monthly, or sharpen their lawnmower blades after every mowing.

Yeah, it can't HURT, but it's not worth doing very often.
Run the snake through a few times, and do a detail cleaning after particularly big shooting trips or when you get a wild hair up your ass.

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Straight or slanted dust cover?

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Anyone have any experience with an American Tactical 1911 in .45?

I picked this up earlier today, but I have 7 days to get a full cash refund if I take it to the range and don't enjoy it.

I'm planning to go Saturday, so I should have some time to think it over, just looking for anyone here with first hand experience. $315 out the door if you guys were wondering

How do surplus gun sites work? They get cases of old milsurp like Mosins or SKS's, put them together/wipe them off, sell them individually? Do they buy milsurp firearms from individual sellers or other companies?
I'd really like to find a CZ-82 or Vz-52 handgun but they seem to be expensive on Gunbroker. Videos made on them less than a year ago say they bought them for $200, Gunbroker has them for $400+. None of the usual sites (aimsurplus, classicfirearms, atlanticfirearms, etc) have them in stock.

What was Springfield Armory's big betrayal? I missed it.

>>33936381
nothing wrong with slated,

>>33936468
Basically, Illinois passed this law limiting firearm transfers within the state to 9 individual firearms PER YEAR. And business owners and such that need to sell more than that have to have some license which can be hit or miss to get (have to get approval from libtard board) and there's an extra layer of bullshit red-tape to go through to buy a gun.
Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms both donated large sums to the IL local government, basically supporting the act. There's some other deal about their guns being excluded I think but I can't remember, the story changes so often.

>>33936436
From what I can find, they're a decent Philippine-made 1911. I'll be interested to hear what you think after shooting it, might be a decent alternative to RRA/SA.

>>33936568

Did Candle Jack get y

>>33934271
Fucking go for it. I have one of their range officer operators and it's by far my favorite gun to shoot.

>>33934704
Just got my extra shit. Is nice.

>>33935374
>Also, fuck IL, no one gives a shit
That's what they all say, then it comes to your shitty state.
Then your fudd ass is complaining about how "nobody's sticking up for my right"

Get fucking bent

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I got my first AR and it's a 16in carbine. How badly did I dun goof?

>>33936793
16 inches is fine, 16 is the legal limit right? Should be just right. Depends on what you bought. Anything pre-built under $1k, you dun fucked up. Shoulda built

>>33936808
Yeah pretty sure 16in is the limit. Daniel Defense

>>33936820
>DD
Y'allz dun gucci

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/411546682/rock_island_armory_51484_tac_2011_single_stack_8+1_45acp_5

Is this a good first 1911? Meant to be a range toy, but wanna get a railed version in case it needs to be a bedside gun.

I can get a SIG P320 RX Full Size (the version with a Romeo 1 RMR and high night sights) for $750. Worth it? Never used an RMR before.

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what should my next purchase be? right now I only own a 10/22 and want to step it up

>glock 19
>ruger mk 4 target
>lever gun in 357 or maybe 44mag

What's the least operator colour for pants? Are cargo pants too much?

>>33936381
I think straight looks better, but that's the only difference

>>33934271
If that's a pic of the gun, $500 is a hell of a deal. The full rail version of the TRP has a lower production run.

Front strap on those things are literal cheese graters though, so watch your hands.

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Is 10 MM good enough for black bear? Encountered one a while back and was wondering if 700 fb lbs of energy is enough to stop one?

I drew my gun but was so exhausted (hr 10 of a 12 hr hike) that the only thing I could think of was if I could raise the gun. Not to mention my accuracy would probably be pretty shitty. So I want to carry an automatic preferably for more follow up shots.

Is 10 mm plenty? should I just get good with a .357 or .44?

I do a lot of back packing so having something light makes a difference.

Pic related, what I would get

>>33937560
G20, 29 or 40 is good to go for innawoods Yogi removal. 10mm has 20% or so more energy than 357mag btw.

>>33934271
Buy it.

Install laser guide rod, threaded barrel and, replace grips.

Live out Solid Snake fantasies.

>>33937346
Pistol shooting is a whole other world different than rifles, and that's a good choice for a first pistol. Makes your dollars go farther. If you end up with the lever action, you'll regret the .44 unless you reload. Which I'm guessing you don't

>>33934271
Used TRP's sell for over $1K. If he's selling it for $500 you'd be a fool not to throw him money for it. Just make sure it's not beat to shit and it functions properly.

>>33936436
You got a great deal on the price for sure

>>33937560
Bears have been downed with far less. Pack solid/fmj for bear and remember to aim for the CNS. Big bear have swallowed multiple rounds of .416 Rigby and kept going, so it's nervous system or bust. That being said, most black bears don't want trouble and will get out of the way if they hear you coming. Browns are more stubborn, but 10mms have cracked their skulls too.

>>33937571

Thx, a lot of the data points that way.

Do you want a HP or FMJ bullet for bears? Also lighter for penetration or heavy for damage?

>>33934360
I saw them for $250 at the local gun show and about 4 years ago I paid 160 for mine. I'd say under $220 is a (((deal))) these days.

>>33937605

Just read this, thanks,

Disregard>>33937623

Also, out of curiosity, the only pistol I had at the moment was a .45. Would .45 +P hollow point been any good on a bear skull?

(Yes I was an idiot but it was the only full sized pistol I had that wasn't being repaired)

>>33936436
Damn I want one of those bad just for the Rochester roll mark.

>>33937560
just use bear spray. or yell at them. black bears are pussies

>>33937750
585 bro? NY stamped mags are a hobby of mine.

>>33937087
Bump for answer.

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>>33936438
Missed the boat for cz82s bro

>>33936183
CZ SP-01. I'm so glad CZ still has a decent catalog here in California. The 75 tactical is also a great competition handgun but something about my SP-01 feels better.
If you can get one with night sights even better, trijicon has some really good ones.
What part of California you live anon?

>>33934271
you should be careful OP, you're buying from someone who's dumb enough to throw away money they already spent supporting SAI

>>33934271
>lego trigger

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>>33936684
I'll report back after I go tomorrow, if the thread is dead by then I'll make one so be on the lookout if you're interested

>>33937592
I love buying used guns, you get to barter with them like gypsies. I think it was marked $399, the guy behind the counter offered to sell it to me for $325 on the spot without punching it into the computer and I countered with $300. That was too thin for him and we ended up meeting at $315 after bouncing around $310 and $320.

>>33939887
That's not a black bear. It's a sloth bear, like we told you in the other thread. Quit spreading mis-information. American black bears are pussies. Even if for some reason they attack they are easily brought down with a rifle.

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>>33934271
>most of the 1911s I wanted were springfield or RIA
>cant justify giving them money anymore
>also cant justify dropping a grand on a fucking pistol

what are some other mid range, fancy but not custom level 1911s?

>>33940620

ruger

>>33937339
$750 is a great deal, my uncle got his new for $850. Great gun. The Sig sight has a HUGE FOV and great clarity. Worth the extra shekels for the pre-milled slide.
But the X-5 is out now and supposedly worth the money and is like $850 new as well. Up to you

>>33937087
Rock Island make decent guns. I happen to dislike the 1911, but I've shot one and it seemed of fair quality for the price. For the same price as a CZ 75, you're getting a metal frame 1911 with a decent trigger. If you're into 1911's, go for it.

>>33937346
Skip the lever gun unless you're into cowboy-action shooting. They're worthless for HD, cumbersome and not practical for plinking/target shooting, and only big bore like .45/70 are good for hunting. Get a bolt or semi auto if you really want to get into rifle shooting, building an AR-15 or getting a .308 Savage would be a good start there.
Handgun shooting is a different beast. My favorite kind of shooting, but a different world from rifles. Glocks are cheap, but out of the box they have terrible triggers, sights, and grips that won't fit everybody. With the Glock your intentions should be to modify it out of the box, which you may need help with. If you really wanna get into handgun shooting, the Ruger Mark 4 series is definitely the better option for out of the box. Alternatively the Ruger 22/45 LITE is good if you eventually want to put an optic or suppressor on it, great stock trigger, and it's lighter than the regular Mark 4, yet still uses the Mark 4 style takedown, which is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
If you want a handgun for carry, I recommend CZ, H&K, and Sig Sauer. The Sig P320 is an absolutely wonderful gun, and the H&K VP9 is a great carry. Neither really require mods out of the box unless you're an optic person, and are worth the extra Benjamins in quality and shooting ability over Glock.
If none of those suit your purposes, also consider a shotgun. 12 gauge is arguably the most versatile cartridge in history, other than 5.56 or 9mm, great option for home defense, and has some unique target shooting options like Trap, Skeet, Sporting Clays, etc. If you get the right ammo it can be just as affordable too. Mossberg has somewhat of an iffy reputation, Beretta is solid but a little more expensive, and the older Remington 870's are amazing, the reason I say older is because Remington's quality has gone downhill in the last few years.

>>33939743
Fuckin rip. Guess I'll be watching my local pawn shops and shit like crazy.
>>33940620
Ruger has some good ones. But you're better off with a modern pistol like a CZ 75 if you want a steel frame handgun good for target shooting and duty carry. 1911s are outdated, overdone, and overhyped.

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>>33934271
Where the fuck do I buy a Russian SKS blade bayonet, or specifically Russian gear for my SKS?

I can find all the parts needed online to put together Norinco SKSs like I'm building an AR, but nobody seems to have blade bayonets and cleaning rods...

>>33939993
this is true, literally just yell at the bear and it will leave

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>>33934271
>doesn't want to support Springfield.

That gun supported Springfield as soon as that company sold it.

The only way for him to not support Springfield is to not buy further weapons directly from them, and to let people know the bullshit they tried to pull.

>>33935484
>>33935576
>>33935513
Looks pretty good desu. What material are they made of?

>>33940961
what bullshit did they try to pull?

I'm out of the loop

So im 18 now and ik planning on doing 12 years in the military (leaf) and when I get out was planning on moving to the states wat state and city is the best for being left alone and having 0 anti fun laws? Oh and no anti knife laws.

>>33941139
Just ask again in 12 years, you shouldn't be planning that far ahead anyway.

Laws change, google when it's closer to time for a decision.

Anyone bought Vortex through experticity? How long did it take to get your stuff?

>>33934271
You are getting a 1,700 dollar gun for 500...DO IT FAGGOT.

You need to remember that every gun company that's not a small in house under 1,000 employees AR-15 maker or custom handgun or shotgun gunsmith have fucked us

Colt has fucked us

Smith and Wesson has fucked us

Ruger has fucked us

and now Springfield has fucked us.

It's going to keep happening cause corporations like to corporate, Every industry has it's EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Konomi and etc that are popular brands that really don't respect their customers or understands what the customer really wants and are always 15 years out of touch with the current generation.


I mean it took years for the AR-15 craze to take over after the assault weapon ban lifted and if you really think of it, the Gun industry in America is really stagnant.

Oddly enough Ruger is the only genuine large American gun company that makes guns in America and are of a decent quality and as of the past 20 years have completely turned around their 1980's 1990's betrayal as being super pro 2end and pro consumer and removing their Hilary holes or unnecessary secondary gun locks and try to produce new things.

If I wasn't a Californian I buy the whole complete line of Ruger 1911's and nothing else because while they may not be fancy or refined, they are made in America and built like a fucking tank.

As a Californian my only choices are super expensive custom guns or Rock Island Armory, Sig and Kimber...with choices like that...I'm sorry but I'm going to stick with Springfield's cause while they have mainspring housings I have to replace and are only American made by technicality, they are one of the only high quality yet reasonably priced 1911's in California.

>>33941134
had a lobbyist on the payroll who threw every single gun owner and dealer of illinois under the bus.

They (and rock river arms) withdrew their opposition to another extremely onerous gun bill in illinois once an exception was carved out for their own company.

>>33934271
Where do you draw the line between Justice and Revenge /k/?

>>33934704
This is a annual offer though, every year after winter they do this.

It's a decent offer though Springfield 1911 magazines are the cheapest in the industry...I'm talking cost wise...quality wise they seem just as good as colt magazines.

>>33935282
Bore snakes are a whole lot easier for some weapon systems.

Fuck removing the barrel on my non take down 10/22 or field stripping it for a cleaning rod.

>>33938769
Yah man, got a pic of these mags your talking about? Sounds p cool.

>>33941613
What?
They are not mutually exclusive, so there is no line between them.

Can I have a C&R gun shipped to my father who has a C&R license, but buy it with a card under my name?

Relatively new shooter here. Went to the range today, and towards the end of my session, I started seeing a trend of anticipating the shot. In those cases, what should I do to reset myself? Slow down? Take a five minute break?

>>33942322
That happens to experienced shooters too, once you realize you're doing it you should be able to stop.

An effective method for me is to "trick" myself into taking the shot by thinking "alright I'm pulling the trigger" and see what it does to my aim without actually pulling the trigger. I can usually catch my bad habits that way, but alternatively you can have your friend load the mag for you with an undisclosed number of rounds and see what you're doing wrong when it clicks.

>>33934704
this happened way before SA/RRA tag-teamed the citizens of IL

>>33942321
You should ask the seller. It's their call, and if they don't know you they'll most likely say "hell no" as it smacks of a straw purchase and/or CC fraud.

>>33942424
Figured that would be the case. Thanks family

>>33941139
firearm laws could change radically overnight several times in the next 12 years. that's 3 presidential elections away and there are plenty of SCOTUS judges that are ready to retire/die before then.
also
>good luck immigrating without family, a firm job offer from a company who is willing to do paperwork for a foreigner, or a large amount of liquid assets in the states

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Does barrier penetration really matter for the average persons CCW? Cops only really want it to punch through car doors, but the average joe has a way lower chance of encountering that.

>>33934271
I'm going to be shopping for a really cheap durr rifle sometime this summer.

I hear a lot of shit about new Remington, are they really all that bad? What specifically is wrong with them?

If I have to choose between Remshit and Savage (aka if I don't see a good used one by then and end up buying at Walmart), which is better and why? I'm leaning towards the Savage bolt-action .308, are there any huge problems with it?

>>33935961
Series 80 saftey and a shit trigger

>>33942368
Thanks. I'll try that next time.

>>33937087
Yes its a good 1911. Probably the best imported 1911 in that price range. Should be fine right out of the box. A RIA was my first, and honestly is a better fit than my colt. Springfield is still the tightest. Actually put my first idiot scratch after years working with 1911s, the springer was so fucking tight.

>>33935498
Is the rhino the famas of the revolver world now?

>>33943148
while I agree, it's preferable to get series 70 a series 80 is not that bad, mine still breaks like glass and if you are that unfaithful about your gun then Wilson combat specializes in series 80 trigger jobs.

as for Remington 1911's...the magazine is good, the gun is not.

>>33943179
This.

Colts are easy as fuck to put the slide latch back in...springer's need lube and carful patience to avoid idiot scratches.

>>33936632
Nah, they paid to have manufacturers exempt from the law because in the first draft they counted as a dealer. They shit themselves, gave a bunch of gun grabbers money, didn't testify against/fight the law in any way,got called out on it, lied about it and now have been emailing me for help stopping the law from going through the house. Then after that they blamed their lobbying group that their CEOs both work on the board of. They're just panicked little children.

>>33943005
Too lazy to post the you tube videos...while yes, it is science that going through materials/barriers will mess with your trajectory.

You can shoot 9mm and .45 acp through windshields and car windows and still hit the guy behind it.

>>33943275
But let's say theoretically a round was created that did wonders against flesh, even through thick clothing, but couldn't get through many barriers. Is that a big problem with a CCW?

>>33943306
Id imagine so. Car doors aren't particularly tough targets. Unless you hit the frame we're talking about penetrating two pieces of sheet metal and maybe a little plastic. I would seriously be disinclined to trust that bullets performance through any other common barriers like dry wall, wood, or normal glass. Most people will intuitively try to hide behind something if lead starts flying their way. It may not come up in every or even most SD shootings but it's definitely an important factor in ammo selection(IMHO).

>>33943378
Thanks, I guess that's obvious but I'm pretty new to guns.

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>>33934271
What is a fair price for a Smith & Wesson 17-8 10 shot .22 revolver?
I've seen these listed a few times for around $900, however this one looks particularly nice and he's asking $1,100.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/644751436
I already have a matching 29 classic .44 mag which I gave $800 for about 5 years ago. I would love to have a kid brother to go with it, but it's a bit painful to pay several hundred more for a .22

>>33943306
Maybe with .22lr

I'm an old fud who uses FMJ for all of my guns save for some Speer Gold Dots or Hornady Critical Defense.

I won't feel under powered or ineffective with any of those calibers or rounds.

>>33934271

I have one. It's a tack driver with everything except winclean 185 grain. Check the serial to see if it starts with NM. If so it was part of a batch that were built from national match guns. Original price when advertised as such was $3500.

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>>33943424
I wouldn't pay that much

Look for a Ruger GP-100 in .22, same 10 shot cylinder and you'll pay closer to half that

>>33943512
I would definitely go this route, or even just the stainless version of the Smith which goes for about $600, if I didn't already have the blued 29 classic. The idea of having a matching set and possibly adding a matching .357 someday is hard to get past

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>>33940955

>About 2010
>I was at a family members house up in the Appalachian mountains
>The house is in the woods, on the side of the mountain
>Fucking with a saw in the murder shed behind the house
>black bear stuck his nose through a knot hole on the back wall
>He was trying to sniff my farts or something
>Reach over and flick his nose
>Bear tactically snorts and hauls ass back into woods
>Laugh like a lunatic
>Realize bears are known for asymmetrical warfare
>Pic related
>Slice the pie back to the house wielding a bow saw and some sort of hooked tree trimming blade on a 6' stick

Can I somehow run an NCIS check on myself? I have some 10+ year old stuff in my background that shouldn't be an issue, but if I'm gonna fail I'd rather do it privately instead of in front of everybody at the gun store.

>>33943746
Not unless you're an FFL.

>>33943746
what is it?

you might be able to call and have them run you?

>>33943512
>Look for a Ruger GP-100 in .22, same 10 shot cylinder and you'll pay closer to half that

But then you're stuck with a Ruger.

>>33943802
I've heard good things about the GP-100

>>33943810
It's still a cast frame, mudblood revolver.

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>>33941969
The army designed and rightly maligned M9 mags that Beretta and Mec-Gar both refused to produce with a special guest appearance by a 30 bullet assault clipazine from the evilest of AR makers.
I have a San Diego produced Beretta mag around here somewhere. I saw it and just needed to give that poor refugee a good home.

>>33934293
ergo ladder covers, although the real answer is to get an MLOK handguard like a normal person

Im looking for a non turkish o/u with two triggers. Does anyone know who makes one?

>>33936183
S&W 686P 4"

>>33934679

I'll give ya 600 for it, Anon.

>>33943762
Two things, both stupid.

The first is a "brandishing a replica weapon in public" misdemeanor. I was 18 (31 now), got in an argument, dude followed me to my car, I had a realistic airshit M4 in my trunk, I pulled it to scare him off and then drove off. Somebody saw it and called the cops, I got pulled over down the road, and it turned into a whole legal clusterfuck. I never did time, but was on probation for a few years and one of the specific terms was not owning any guns.

The second happened about a year later. An argument with my parents blew up and my dad called the cops on me (he threatened to do it, I called his bluff, so he called mine), coincidentally the cop was an acquaintence of mine who knew the whole thing was bullshit, and he took me to the psych ward instead of throwing me in jail. 5150, 72 hour hold, and was released with a clean bill at the end.

Fuck, just writing this shit out makes me cringe. I had way too big of a chip on my shoulder as a teenager and a real talent for escalating situations.

Anyway, this stuff should all be long out of the picture, but I'd just like to be sure before I try buying a gun. I guess I'll have to find out the hard way.

>>33936793
It's (probably) fine. It's not the 90s anymore, most companies have figured out the correct gas port size for 16" carbine gas.

>>33939751
I'm in LA, Burbank-ish.

CZ is definitely on my shortlist. I've never shot one but their reputation is pretty damn solid, and I've shot enough 9mms that I think I can tell whether I'll like the CZs once I handle them.

I'm kinda tempted to get a 75B, I like guns of that era and I don't really need a ton of tacticool shit, though night sights would be nice.

>>33944051
I love the 686, in fact I pretty much learned to shoot with one. It's quite a bit more than I want to spend, though, and I'm really looking for a semiauto.

>>33935392
its a homemade 22lr revolver irrc

Going to a gun show tomorrow. I'm planning on picking up a couple Mosins for me and my dad. What's the acceptable price for a Mosin, and what should I inspect for before I purchase one?

looking to get into ACW reenactment

found a guy who has a pedersoli 1861 + bayonet that just needs a percussion nipple replacement for $500. should I go for it?

Any recommendations for knives that are both functional and aesthetically pleasing?

Looking to buy one folder and one fixed.

>>33940620
>most of the 1911s I wanted were springfield or RIA

Rock Island Armory isn't involved.

>>33944345
How big and how much do you want to spend?

can't find /arg/ so I'll ask here. I have an upper with an 18 inch barrel and a 15 inch rail and another upper with a 16 inch barrel and a 13 inch rail. Is there any reason I shouldn't swap the rails on them?

>>33944440
no
do it

>>33944440
theres no reason you cant swap them.

>>33944412
For the folder: Around 4" blade length and <$100 USD

For the fixed: >4" blade length and <$100 USD

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Are these rounds safe to fire?

I found them laying on my carpet, no clue how long they've been there but they were all corroded

First pic is halfway through cleaning, second is completely cleaned

>>33936786
That's what people that don't expect companies to give a shit say.

Get 'bent'.

>>33944638
Yes.

Can M4 + 1?

>>33944758
+2, even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8QeiMOlN0Q

I installed a Ghost - connector in my G19 Gen 4 and now the action is really rough. This is especially noticeable when decocked, it seems to "catch" right at the start where the barrel unlocks and the striker is cocked. Even when cocked it sticks a little in the same place.

I'm probably going to put the factory . connector back in as the - is only marginally lighter and otherwise feels mushy as shit, but what's the deal with the rough action now? Is the connector out of spec?

>>33934271
someone with an SKS answer this for me. How do you reload it with rounds still in the magazine? Can't you just open the bolt and put more rounds in the top?

I ask this because I just played Rising Storm 2 and you pop open the cover at the bottom of the magazine and empty all the rounds out, then open the bolt and put in a new 10 round stripper clip. Seems like a waste.

>>33944036
I got ya, senpai
http://www.boxallandedmiston.co.uk/

>>33945045
You have to hold the bolt back, and you will eject your chambered round getting there.

Also, games are typically built for gameplay more than realism. Maybe it was easier to animate, or maybe it just made more sense in the game mechanics to do it as you described.

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>>33945045
>>33945234
>maybe it just made more sense in the game mechanics to do it as you described.
I play the game and I'm siding with this, the game uses a mag system instead of the "bullet pool" of games like Gears of War and Call of Duty. You can't top up with individual rounds, you have to use a new mag.

Keep in mind it's still beta, and that could likely change to allow you to put those emptied rounds in reserve to top off with.

>>33945234
Yeah. On a related note, virtually all of the semiautomatic rifles in BF1 have wrong reload animations, especially when it comes to partial reloads. For gameplay reasons, your character just pulls the charging handle back and it locks open by itself, and somehow doesn't eject the top cartridge. None of that is correct, but the devs wanted the reloads to be consistent.

Does anyone here every get slightly sexual aroused looking at certain guns? the other day I was browsing /k/ and was looking through an AK thread and I started to get a little hard looking at the AK's with the wood and metal finishes. I wanted to hold the gun and run my hands across the receiver and handguard, and slowly load the 7,62 rounds one by one into each magazine

>>33945298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcOwz99GS4c
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/james-may/james%E2%80%99s-fizzy-logic
Like this?

I have decided on my first gun and after everyone I've talked with plus my awful bank account I'm choosing a Mosin Nagant. Is this a terrible idea? Every video and article I've read makes me want it plus the /his/ value

>>33945457
Mosins are really quite poor rifles that were only ever popular because they were like $50 each and the ammo was almost as cheap as .22LR.
Now that a Mosin costs as much as a good gun there's really no reason to bother.

>>33945457
5 years ago?
Yeah, it's a great purchase.

Today?
Not so much. I bought mine for about $150, they're going for nearly double that now. Spam cans of rounds were going about $100/440rds, now they're about $200/440 nearing $.50/rd.

How much money do you have? $300-$400 will get you a nice .308 or .30-06 if you're dead set on a full powered rifle

>>33945477
I disagree that they're bad guns, but I'll agree that the popularity is/was mostly due to cost.

>>33945489
Really don't have that much. I was hoping on spending like 100-200 as I'm waiting on more money coming my way

>>33945509
You won't get a mosin for that price now, and if you do you can't afford to shoot it.

If you really want a gun on that budget, try looking around local pawn shops for a single shot beater 12-ga, they can be had for less than $150.

My advice is to save up, once you hit about $400 (still cheap for a gun) your options will really open up. If you give it another $200-$300 after the $400 mark so you feel comfortable dropping $700 you can get *just about* anything you want.

>>33945541
Damn, ok. Originally when I was reading the sticky there was alot on .22 caliber rifles as the first gun and there cheapness, does that no longer apply as well now-a-days?

>>33945557
What makes you think that?

>>33945557
You can get a .22 in your price range pretty easily, I just assumed you wanted something powerful because you were asking about a full powered rifle.

>>33945566
Well while I do, I would rather start shooting now and get good before I invest in anything more. Is it possible to hunt with .22?

>>33945557
.22LR is still dirt cheap because ammo companies use it as a loss leader to get people into shooting
A Ruger 10/22 costs about as much as a Mosin and is far and away the better rifle, both as babby's first gun and in general

>>33945576
Yes, small game like rabbits, squirrels and birds.

All of which are easier with a shotgun, but I take stuff with my .22

>>33945584
>>33945582
That's great to hear, thanks for the advice. Let me ask you, with all this I might be moving out to DC from Albany. How bad are the gun laws in DC in regards to buying a .22 and is there anywhere I can easily shoot it?

>>33945609
DC is basically Gun Owner Hell
like their laws are so fucked that the Supreme Court told them to get fucked
it's also full of unarmed teenagers just about to turn their lives around and go to college, so you'll probably get murdered

>>33945667
>it's also full of unarmed teenagers just about to turn their lives around and go to college, so you'll probably get murdered
Exactly what I was looking for

I recently put a regular birdcage flash hider on a gun that previously only had bare muzzle nuts. I've noticed the gun has less FTFs now since I changed it. Could the hider have anything to do with it?

>>33945990
No.

Washington resident. I want to take a trip to alaska and CC. Is there any way I can drive through canada? If not, what are my options.

WTF is this thread even about. ADHD?

>>33944345
Find /KTG/. Gonna need your budget and size preferences.

I personally love the aesthetics of the Spyderco Manix 2, Zero Tolerance 0450, and Spyderco Stretch, all of which are amazing knives.

>>33944287
I'm not an expert on prices but I've been hearing and seeing $300-400 lately. Damn shame, they used to be sub $100... ammo has gotten rarer too.
Anyway, definitely inspect the receiver. If it has a "hex" shaped receiver, in other words it has square edges instead of one round assembly, FUCKIN BUY IT, even if the wood is beat to hell, just make sure there's no problems with the bore. Speaking of the bore, bring a flashlight or boresight and check the bores for pitting, rust, and rifling damage. Mosins are old as hell so some can be "shot out," others can have major rust or pitting on the inside which is near impossible to fix, don't buy one with a bore like that. If using a flashlight, shine it on the bolt face or the inside of the receiver and try to reflect the light off it, don't directly shine it up the bore, you won't be able to see very well due to the light being directly in your eyes. Another thing is the bolt, the less play in the track, the smoother action, the better. Also the trigger, which I believe can be replaced aftermarket, but you still don't want to be stuck with a shit trigger.
Minor things would be the stock. If it doesn't have a buttplate it could be a problem, I mean you can get recoil pads for them, but it's always nice to have all the original parts, especially if you don't want to spend more. Also check the condition of the wood, whether you care about nicks, matching patterns, or not, still need to be careful with cracks. Manufacturing facility marks can be important too, some manufacturers are rarer than others, especially if it happens to be a Swedish rifle. Matching serial numbers may or may not be important, if they don't match then there's no telling what happened to the rifle, so matching numbers is always better for overall quality, but it's still a Mosin, and whether or not they match is really up to you.

>>33946199
No, it's for questions to ask that don't really need to be on the main board. Minor ones, stupid ones, etc.

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>>33946199
the qtddtot? i think its about questions...that dont deserve their own thread.

not sure what the relation is from the name and the topic. anyways, these threads have been running nonstop for almost 10 years now, so welcome to 4chan

This might be a dumb question, but do optics ever go on sale or optic websites like opticsplanet ever do sales?
I want some night vision, haven't decided on what yet, but goddamn they're expensive. Just wondered if they do so I can watch out.

Why does our goatfucker need guns if Frisk doesn't?

>>33946168
Ship said gun in the mail to FFL in Alaska and then pick it up when you get there.

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Been saving up some cash for an optic for my AR, currently at 200 bucks but probably going to wait a week or so and spend 400. Looking at the Aimpoint PRO, anything else I should look at?

>>33946547
What's the knife?
Bushnell TRS-25 is great on the low low end if you don't wanna wait. Athlon seems to have a good rep for cheaper ones, I have the RD-11 on my AR, haven't had a problem with reliability or anything, gone through ~500 rounds, battery died already but that's because I left it on like the faggot I am. Heard a bit about Hi-Lux being decent with similar designs to Aimpoint and shit, but that's hearsay. Can't say much about anything higher end as I don't own any.

>>33946556

It's a kabar, nothing special. As for sights, I've already had a Vortex StrikeFire II, I'm looking for something more high quality. Vortex was great but that particular model rubbed me wrong with the 4 moa dot and cantilever mount.

>>33946578
>ka-bar
Used to be good, now just overpriced and riding on their coat-tails (cough cough Colt cough). Please upgrade to an Ontario, Becker, Esee, or Bradford.
I haven't had a great experience with Vortex... Bought a Viper which seemed okay, but the battery connection broke within 100 rounds. Got replaced by Vortex, new one did the exact same thing. Everyone says they're great online, but I've seen quite a few reputable channels like MAC diss on them a few times. I get the high quality thing, but if you really can't wait and are still using irons, just grab the Bushnell, it's like $60 and has a great rep for lasting a long time for what it is. Primary Arms also makes great stuff for all budgets, I've been impressed with all the optics I've seen by them and they have a great rep as well. Again this is all hearsay, so whether or not you trust it is up to you. I try to be honest.

>>33946611

I want an ESEE actually, but this knife has done the job and I already own it, so when my priority comes back to knives I'll get it. Right now it's optics.

I like alot of the vortex models, mine was rugged and over built as fuck. Primary arms is like down the road from me, but I'd rather just want and get an Aimpoint and then save the primary arms/vortex purchase for my AKM build when I get one.

>>33941360
>It's going to keep happening cause corporations like to corporate.

Neither Springfield or Rock River is a corporation. Both are private companies.

S&W fucked us when a British firm had control and majority ownership of it's public and non-public shares - they bought it for 110mil+ and were forced to sell their position and the company for 15mil. That was a pretty big fuck you to those limey fucks.

Bill Ruger was removed from his own company after the AWB, his shares were mostly reacquired by the corporation, and as soon as the AWB sunsetted they went balls out - making high caps, AR's, as well as publicly disavowing BIll Ruger as a motorcycle hating liberal faggot.

Colt, desperate for cash because they are eternal fuckups, had a smart gun project. They've since changed corporate ownership (again control of non-public shares and alot of public shares) several times and have had several restructurings.

This isn't the same tier as those fuck ups - Corporations have the potential to be damned near eternal - they can restructure everything, replace board members, fire the CEO, fire literally everyone involved, seize stock, divest, etc etc etc

A private company is different The owners of SA and RRA knew goddamned well what the fuck was going on and they donated large amounts of money to some the most virulently anti gun politicians in Illinois. I'm talking foaming at the mouth tier most guns including alot of fudd guns should be banned tier.
Just to get a fucking carve out.

SA is largely an importer. The XD is Croatian.
The M1A is Brazilian. The 1911's have Flip slides and frames. The only thing they make is GRIPZONE frames, and final assembly and fitting on 1911's.

Rock River willfully sells AR-15's to the NY and California governments

The only solution is to boycott them until they go under.

BTW Colt never truly recovered.It took S&W and Ruger 15 years to recover.
The gun industry needs to know clear as day that they are either with us or insolvent

>>33941360
>As a Californian my only choices are super expensive custom guns or Rock Island Armory, Sig and Kimber...with choices like that...I'm sorry but I'm going to stick with Springfield's cause while they have mainspring housings I have to replace and are only American made by technicality, they are one of the only high quality yet reasonably priced 1911's in California.

Your a fucking traitor and it makes perfect sense why a Californian would buy a gun from a company that sends profits to anti gun lobbies and politicians.

That not my state, not my problem attitude is the exact reason California has worse than Canada tier gun laws.

>>33945045
You can turn the gun upside down and pop the magazine bottom open - saves you from ejecting a round, but on the other hand it's probably going to be a challenge to fully top off to 10 in the mag that way

>>33945477
This x1000.

>>33946253
Thanks, Anon. This was exactly the information I was needing. Getting cleaned up right now to get there early.

>$300-400 lately. Damn shame
That is a damn shame. I don't need a Mosin that badly. I won't pay more than 200 for one, but I'll still check them out.

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I'm trying to disassemble my Remington 870P to give the internals a seeing-to, but I can't pull the barrel off. I think it may be due to this tube extension mount. (The ribbed circular thing near the fore-end)

How do I remove that? I tried twisting it to unscrew but it's on pretty tight.

>>33947515
Did you try just removing the barrel clamp?

I've heard that top break revolvers are shitty because they're weak and get loose over time shooting high power rounds. But then, what's the problem with a top break .22? That sounds like it'd be an immensely fun revolver, yet nobody makes one these days.

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>>33947959

Yeah, and that lets me remove the tube extension, but the barrel lug(?) is still caught behind that ribbed mount. It should be more visible in this picture.

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What proportion of U.S. police get to shoot someone during their career?

>>33948138
I'm not in a position to give you the stats, but here is what you need to find them

>how many cops are in the country/state/city of your choice
>how many officer related deaths are there in that country/state/city
>derive a percentage from that data

>>33948138
It's incredibly low

I can't give exact numbers but don't think that it happens often

>>33948138
12%
https://www.policeone.com/use-of-force/articles/3468102-Shooting-center-mass-The-dangers-of-denial/

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Guys, what other pistols are long slide/barrel and short grip like the XDS 4"? Don't mind if single or double stack.

So, I found a mosin at a gun show from a guy's personal collection. It was in great shape, and came with a bayonet, but he wouldn't go lower than 275 in cash. I know mosins are going for more than that, but is it worth it?

>>33948439
why do you want a mosin?

>>33948460
For shooting and fun

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>>33948425
Full-size/compact Glocks chopped to accept fun-size magazines
It wouldn't surprise me at all if someone made a 1911 with an officer frame and commander/full-length slide
Any revolver with boot grips

>>33948525
if you don't really give a shit about it's history, there's cheaper newer and better bolt action rifles out there firing cheaper caliber rounds.
if you do still want a mosin, shop around on armslist. you can do better than $275. a nice mosin around where i live will run between $200-$225.

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On average, how much will firearm ownership increase my suicide risk?

>>33948875
Don't buy a gun if you're even a little suicidal.

>>33948857
Thanks. I'll do some more shopping around

>>33948875
How much will walking near a cliff make you jump off? Getting a gun doesn't make you suicidal. It's just a preferred method because it's pretty straightforward. That being said >>33948888 has a point. If you're considering blowing your brains out, get some help first.

>>33939887
That's not a fucking North American black bear. That's some sort of fucked up asian Yao guai koala on pcp. Black bears are usually half the weight of a grizzly and run up trees and hide when they see humans. You could probably dispatch one with a 9mm.

Does a Glock's connector affect the strength of the reset? I installed a minus connector in my G19 and can't tell if the reset feels mushy and weak or if it's just me.

>>33949016
I've read anaecdotes of the minus connector causing failures to reset.
You can fix it by installing a NY1 (or NY2) trigger spring.

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So last summer my dad bought a ruger AR556. Since this is his only rifle, he wants to put a flashlight on it for HD, and maybe a foregrip. Preferably he'd like to do this without replacing the front sight / gas block, and minimal change .
So the question is, do I recommend him a MLOK or Keymod handgaurd, or a barrel-mounted flashlight?

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Opinions on the JC Higgins 583.16 for a $120 beater shotgun? From what I read the 583.16 is made in 1948 or so. It's a 12ga, I've read about the recall but it seems more like the guy was a retard and Sears wanted to do a gun grab than actual issues with the gun.

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what are some neat gem guns that can be had under or around $300? looking for stuff like the FEG hi power and star model super b

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My 1911 has a threaded barrel. When I shoot it the nut on the threading seems to unscrew itself. Am I supposed to leave the barrel nut on when I shoot it or am I being retarded? If I do leave it on, how can I keep it from falling off?

>>33949490
ur supposed to put a suppressor on it

>>33949208
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/magpul-moe-m-lok-carbine-length-handguards/
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/smc-light-mount-1-00/
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-g2x-tactical-single-output-led/
http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/magpull-m-lok-mvg-vertical-grip/

here you go

>>33949490
Use a strap wrench to torque it on good and tight.

I have money to blow and want to slap a 7.62x39 upper on my AR 15, mainly for the novelty of it. Might do some hunting with it too.

I've never bought PSA before, are they good quality? Also what 7.62x39 AR magazines are the best? I've heard 30 rounders have problems but 10 rounders are generally good.

>>33949956
Just get a 300 BLK or an AK.
Even if the 10-round mags suck less than the 30s, there's still the issue of the fragile locking lugs from x39's wider case head diameter.

>>33948875
Does owning a car make you want to drive it off a cliff?
Don't buy a gun if you are suicidal. Get some counceling first. The only way you can be come suicidal is if you become depressed, the gun won't make you do that.

>>33950065
But the only novelty of that is a meme round and not a meme AR.

>>33949437
CZ 52, CZ 82/83 (though those are becoming increasingly expensive), Makarov, Tokarev

>>33950088
>meme round
Still a viable round. So is the gun itself. If you don't want 7.62, get 5.45. 7.62x39 AR's truly are memes. Get 300BLK, .308, or .458 Socom instead

>>33949956
just go full retard and make a 45-70 upper

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>>33949956
get a .50 cal muzzleloader upper

Which factory configuration of the Ruger 10/22 is the best value? Just the standard one?

As a side note, I don't plan on being one of those guys whose 10/22s become money pits for them. The only things I will be doing to it are possibly changing the stock if the default stock is uncomfortable and putting a rimfire optic on it.

Incidentally, what are some recommended rimfire optics at various price points?

>>33950286
just buy a marlin,its a better stock gun. you think you wont want to upgrade a 1022 but you will beacuse its mediocre then its down the money pit for you.

>>33950329
Are you talking about the Marlin Model 60 or one of the others? What makes it better?

>>33950286
get a takedown so you can buy one of these
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/micros/silent-sr-ISB/index.html

>>33950244
holy shit, this exists?
NEED

>>33950640
tragically discontinued

Why do people insist upon front slide serrations?
I hear people call for those as being a necessity in today in modern handguns

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I just realized the barrel I ordered doesn't have a name for the profile in the description. What did they mean by this?

>>33950065
>>33950105
Either way the question is still applicable. Are PSA Uppers/Lower good quality?

>>33950811
It's self-evidently a basic bitch literally-ass-backwards A2 profile.

>>33950811
BA? Looks like government profile

>>33950770
because people rack the slide from the front?

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>>33950770
2 decades from now we are going to look at front slide serrations like we do squared off trigger guards now.

>>33951226
As a thing that some people like and some don't, but there's literally no downside to including them so why not?

>>33934271

What should I use to maintain, protect, and preserve wooden stocks on my milsurp rifles?

Got an Enfield that keeps developing water spots and I've been using Mayo and a soft cloth to remove those as with most other wood, but I heard if the stock gets to dry it can crack? But on the other hand if it gets too wet (say, saturated with oil) the same can happen.

Pretty new to milsurp guns.

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What guns have many manufacturers making them besides M1911s and AR-15s?

>>33951332
soak it down in vegetable oil

>>33951429
Glocks, AKs

What is a good price on a Henry AR7? At Dick's in NJ they're asking $240 sticker price.

>>33951635
Bud's has it for $236, so $240 is fine.

Can I shoot a brand new firearm without cleaning it first?

And I mean brand spankin' new. New in box. Straight from the store. Never been shot (except for factory testing, maybe).

>>33951781
yes

>>33951781
yes you never have to clean ur guns if u dont want to

>>33951794
Well, it would be a good idea to at least clean them *after* a day at the range, but I'm also an impatient fucker who likes to try out his new toys ASAP.

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Anyone know if the Canik P120 is any good? I'm too poor to buy a CZ SP-01

>>33951429
Glock, AK, CZ 75, (insert Mossberg shotgun here).
>>33951892
None will compare to a real CZ. Just fucking save up.
>>33951781
Why the hell would you think you'd need to clean it? There's not going to be any cosmoline or carbon. Most guns don't require lube ASAP. Just shoot it retard

>>33951926
>Why the hell would you think you'd need to clean it?
It's one of those things that I hear from fudds and some sports shooters.

I just can't tell sometimes. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

>>33951965
Don't listen to that guy, if you don't clean it it makes mustard gas

>>33952053
Why? Do bullets contain chicken & jalapenos?

>>33951926
>There's not going to be any cosmoline[...]
What keeps new guns from rusting on dealers' shelves?

>>33951965
Cleaning before taking it out is an excellent idea, regardless of what anyone else says. Especially in this day and age of piss poor QC.

Calling that fudd just shows how misused and misunderstood the term is.

Doing so, the gun gets a thorough inspection in the process, and who knows what the hell kind of residue or metal shavings may be left in the barrel? There's no guarantee it was test fired.

I suppose an inspection alone is enough, but I never shoot a new acquisition without cleaning it first.

>>33951031
They're OK.
Avoid PTAC like the plague, though; those are straight garbage.

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>>33937572
>tfw the laser guide rod for 1911 was discontinued

>>33946426
>senpai
Optics? All of the time. NV? Not very often, especially the good ones.

>>33952089
>left in the barrel
People do tend to make a big deal about this one.

Obviously, an obstruction in the barrel is a big no-no. If there's a squib or anything to restrict the passageway, that's dangerous.

But I've seen people go full-Singaporean over a tiny drop of lube or a small speck of dirt/dust. What's the deal with that? It could be indicative of poor care maybe, but surely it can't be fatal.

>>33952102
I'll keep an eye out, thanks.

>>33934271

I'm at a garage sale right now and there is an HK P7 with two magazines for $250. The guy says it was made in 1983. Should I go for it?

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Is $329 for a LEO trade in M&P 9mm a good deal? I'm looking to try one on the cheap and this looks pretty good.

I have a Browning Hi power mag, make unknown, appears to be stainless. (Bright finish). It's a 14-rounder. What should I sell it for? Also, will ship to any anons.

>>33952087
Modern gun oils.
>>33952089
Lubing a gun before shooting is good, and constantly maintaining/cleaning it every 200-300 rounds is good too. But just taking a gun out of the box and shooting it is not a bad thing. If QC is an issue to you, then disassemble it and inspect it first. That should be a no-brainer. Fully cleaning immediately before shooting is overkill and not necessary. Any brand worth their salt won't have issues with QC, unless you're only buying Remington, Taurus, Kel-Tec, Hi-Point, Mossberg, or Glock, in which case you need to step it up a notch.

>>33952626
>>33952652
Yes, do it.

>>33952652

nvm I just ordered a Pro 5" off another website since that's what i really want.

>>33940620
Springfield mil spec. i just got one for about 650.

>>33936793
I did good I mine I picked up my 300 blackout for 500 in carbine length and I haven't had a single issue with it
Just take it out and shot it put it threw it's paces and see if it holds up

>>33952168
I'm thinking maybe one of the Armasight models or the Night Owl dual tube gen 1, we'll see, all of which are "budget models," if you consider $500 to be a budget...
>>33952626
Holy fuck. Disassemble and inspect first, but dear god please buy it.
>>33952652
1.0? Eh... they're unreliable guns with terrible stock triggers. But that's still a lot cheaper than new. I'd personally go for a new G19 first for the options for aftermarket, but if you like the M&P grip better then go for it.

do you need to do an FFL transfer when buying an AR lower receiver from an individual online?

>>33953310
Depends on state law.

If you buy it from them in person, generally the answer is "no", especially if both parties are in the same state.

If the receiver is crossing state lines, or is going to be sent via parcel service, you'll generally need an FFL for the transfer.

>>33939887
That's a sun bear - an asiatic black bear, you fucking moron. BIG difference. They are far more aggressive the any bear you'll find in North America (including Grizzlies - not as big, but quite aggressive to humans)

>>33953375
Thanks that's what I needed to know

>>33941360

But it's a 1911.

1911's are buyers' remorse waiting to happen, that's all.

Even at a discount, it's going to be something he ends up feeling like he wasted his money on, gathering dust in his collection, or getting dumped on someone else - let's not even talk about the money he ends up wasting on .45acp ammo if he doesn't have any other handguns in that caliber.

Seriously, let 1911's rot. Don't buy em. If you want a piece of history, get Browning's masterpiece, the Hi Power. At least that's fun to shoot, and not just an expensive relic.

Major question:

How can one find Thompson barrels without the receiver threading? I need one for a project, and that project requires a different receiver thread than the standard Thompson.

I want to get a Beretta 92 but I don't want to play myself. What's the difference between a 92s, 92f, 92fs, and M9? Also I see there are some clones out there like Girsan, are they acceptable or is scrimping my schmeckels in this instance a bad idea?

>>33944638
100% - I analyzed them with my mouse laser and they check out. Good for anti-puerto-rican stuff too.

>>33953531
derp. I just wikipedia'd my way through question 1, but still want to know what clones are acceptable if any are

>>33953531
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92
The PT92 is tha only worthwhile gun Taurus makes, but really if you want a Beretta you should just get the real thing and be done with it.

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Anyone have experience with the ALG lubes?
Their guns were dripping in it at NRA atlanta and were SO SMOOTH, but I'm not sure how long it lasts or if it was just an effect of being soaked.

are CLPs as good as having separate cleaners, lubes, and protective oils?

>>33953531
What kind of a cost difference are you looking at? Beretta 92's aren't cheap but they're not the priciest guns by any stretch of the imagination.

>>33953834
from what I can tell it's about $900-$1100 in Canada for a real beretta, $500-$700 for a girsan clone, or I can get euro police surplus for ~$550.

Ideally I want to get a stainless model but I'm probably ultimately not going to want to pay the difference between the more expensive stainless models and the typical black ones.

I feel like for $1100that's right up in CZ75 SP-01 territory which is probably a better buy at that price point

>>33954023
CZ is generally what poorfags buy to feel important. They're really not that great.

>>33954023
>euro police surplus for ~$550
Do it; cop guns are a great value because they have lots of great-looking holster wear but have basically never been shot.

Does the 300 AAC blackout Mini 14 use the same mags as a .223 Mini 14?

I know the idea of the round is to use the same stanag magazines but seeing as Minis do not use stanags I dont know if they are comparable.

>>33954295
http://shopruger.com/Mini-14-300-Blackout-20-Round-Magazine/productinfo/90484/
>THIS MAGAZINE IS NOT INTERCHANGEABLE WITH THE .223 MAGAZINE
Signs point to "no", which only raises further questions.

>>33954068
>CZ
>not great
Pick one. The $600 SP-01 beats even lower end Sigs, S&W, Ruger, basically any handgun under $1k in terms of fit and finish, trigger, felt recoil, ergonomics, and reliability.

>>33954325
Damn ok. Thanks for the quick reply.

That fucking sucks I live in the cuck state of NJ and it looks like the blackout minis only ship with 20 round mags. I can get a .223 Mini because they can be bought with five rounders but I guess there is no way to get a blackout gun with one.

>>33953260
>if you consider $500 to be a budget
Yep. While not bottom of the barrel, that's pretty low end, unfortunately.

A quick search at slickguns.com (or rather, ii guess it's gun.deals now) will show pretty decent history of prices and past sales.

>>33954378
Also to clarify I know I can just get the magazine in PA but the problem is I can't find a gun shop in NJ that has a blackout mini so I can't just buy it without the magazine it would have to be ordered, but the gun shops can't order me the gun because it ships with a twenty rounder.

>>33939887

All those motherfuckers there and nobody does anything. Bear is going to saunter off if 10 dudes charging at it.

Thinking of getting a bolt .223 that takes AR mags for shits and giggles (and some occasional killing of medium game). Already have a .223 saiga and a shitty bushmaster.

Should I just get a .308 instead? Thinking range and energy on impact. Plus... while the .223 would be cheaper to shoot, it's a .223 bolt and I'm not sure I can wrap my head around why I'd really use it. Priced exactly the same for the two models, except for caliber.

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>>33954378
>not being able to buy a Ruger product because the magazine is too big

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>>33951226
Why not both?

>>33954530
>I'm not sure I can wrap my head around why I'd really use it
Maybe you should buy something else, then, like a less-terrible AR

>>33954602

Really want a bolt gun, though. Not a fan of the AR in particular, I just like the mag availability and commonality with every third gun in the world.

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>>33954637
Well, obviously the .223 would fit better into your existing supply infrastructure, with no new ammo or magazines to worry about, and, with the right ammo, would be perfectly fine for medium game such as deer out to 300 yards or so.
I don't really see any need to get the .308 for your intended application unless your expected deer engagement ranges exceed that or you have a bunch of guns that use SR25 mags that you didn't previously mention.

>>33954530
Mossberg MVP takes AR mags and is available on .223 and .308

These SKS threads have me wondering

is it a good starter rifle?

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Can anybody suggest a good innawoods/backpacking rifle? SKS need not apply.

No ARs either. Too many looks from the dirty hippies who are also out hiking. It's camping season and I don't want to go alone with only a 9mm.

>>33954788
It's OK as long as you accept it for what it is.
If you want 30rd detachable magazines you should just get an AK to begin with instead of spending $AK Tapcofucking your SKS into a post-op tranny AK.

>>33944870
its probably in spec but has some rough or sharp edges

>>33954841
>Too many looks from the dirty hippies
What are they gonna do about it? You've got a gun.

>>33948038
>>33947515
youve got a 2 piece magtube you should be unscrewing from the ribbed part but all your doing is unscrewing half of the mag extension tube. im guessing your holding the front part when you turn it. remove the clamp completely first too.

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>>33954884
Find a park Ranger to come hassle me. There's nothing illegal about it, but I'd prefer something that doesn't get me looked at too weird.

I'd carry my Garand which looks pretty non-threatening but that fucker is heavy as shit.

>>33954927

Turns out the mount was just screwed on super fucking tight. I managed to grip it with some pliers and twist, it unscrewed smoothly after that. Problem solved.

>>33954993
What's wrong with the SKS, given that you need something made of wood with a short magazine that's chambered in something that you could shoot critters with if the need arose?

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Price check on new mini 14 in california:

My local gun store says they can order me the wood blued one for $756.

>>33955021
Short length of pull, still pretty heavy. I'd rather carry my Garand.

Jungle Enfield would be good, but at the prices you find them at these days I might as well just buy something new.

>>33937571
Energy doesn't mean shit. .40SW makes a bigger hole and penetrates deeper than .357. Most 10mm is balistically the same as .40SW anyway. The only difference between generic .40SW loads and premium snowflake top tier nuclear 10mm loads is two inches of penetration.

Whats your favorite kung fu movie?

>>33937588
I hate the cheese grater grips on those things. But I agree, if yo can get a good deal on a used one, buy it. Don't buy anything new from SA though, fuck them.

>>33955069
Then you should get a Mini-30.
At a svelte 7 lbs, it's about as heavy as a weight-conscious AR-15, and decidedly lighter than a 8.5 lb SKS or 10 lb Garand, and the 13" length of pull is practically identical to your Garand, so you should feel right at home.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/miniThirty/specSheets/5804.html

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>>33955074
>two inches of penetration
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=394
>Straight line penetration into living tissue will exceed three feet.

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FMJ rounds generally feed more reliably than hollow points, due to their rounded shape. But then why don't manufacturers make the plastic(?) bit found in the center of some hollow points jut out and be a bit more rounded so it feeds just like FMJ?

>>33955212

Doesn't putting plastic in the cavity negate the benefit of a hollowpoint? Isn't one of the chief complaints about HPs that they fill with clothing on impact with a person, and fail to expland as designed?

>>33955212
The feeding benefit is statistically insignificant on modern guns designed with hollowpoints in mind.

>>33955232
The plastic bit forces the bullet open as though it has struck soft tissue and prevents the clogging issue you describe.

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>>33939988
>>33936684
>>33936436
I put 100rds through it today, I don't really feel comfortable writing a full review yet because the sights were WAY off and I didn't have a screwdriver that would fit it in my car, the one I had was too big. I'm going back on Monday to put another hundred through it on paper with a proper screwdriver to adjust.

What I did notice:
>Slide release is buttery when a mag is in
>No feeding errors
>Very manageable recoil
>Thumb blister creator, gonna wear gloves next time (both of my .38s also have this problem)
>Stiff mag *not even sure if this is a standard issue mag for the gun or aftermarket, just a bit tough to load not really a big problem*
>Blasts a fairly large amount of powder residue on my arms
Overall it would be a good gun if I was hitting anything with it, I'm going to make a thread after I get it sighted and put some more rounds through it on Monday with a full review

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Will a CZ P-01 slide stop fit on a CZ D PCR?

I have babby hands so I think the longer slide stop will be more comfortable.

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The MR223:
1: to what degree could I fuck with it re: swapping out upper/lower/other components?
2: to what degree could I just buy one of the shorter ones and then only buy components that differ between sizes to have both, without buying two guns? Besides a second barrel, what else would I need?

What's the best way to make really cheap ghetto improvised 12 ga. ammo good for SD? What I have to work with is a shitload of cheap birdshot and not a lot of money.

I've heard of mixing the shot with wax to keep it together for a half assed slug, anyone done that before?

>>33937560
Make sure to use Underwood, Buffalo Bore, or load your own.