Trump says we're going with goddamned steam.

>>33929174
>No digital.
There's such a thing as a digital catapult on an aircraft carrier?

>>33929182

It costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it's no good.

>>33929174
I use Steam all the time for my vidya. I don't see a problem

Is this gonna be the next Okhotnik?

>>33929174

Impressive.

I wonder if the US might consider buying the Chinese EMALS since they've already mastered this technology in such a short time and will be implementing on their new carriers.

>>33929174
You know what's even better than steam? A ramp.

>>33929174
As a former steam catapult guy on the Enterprise, why? I was excited to see the new electromagnetic cats.

>>33929304
Nigel and/or Boris, pls

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>>33929198

>>33929196
I blame the Cyber.

>>33929350
> tfw Baron played the entire US Navy and the President

Hes the real 12D chessplayer here

>>33929315

Bear in mind that the President doesn't actually have the power to make arbitrary budget decisions.

>>33929174
Isn't the Ford class already finished though?

>>33929293
> Paying for our own plans that the PLAN just stole

>>33929174
>he says like he actually has some say in the matter

>>33929174
Where's the part that says Trump said it?
Just post the whole article. I want to read it.

>>33929441

http://time.com/4775040/donald-trump-time-interview-being-president/

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>>33929198
>when your steam is digital

>>33929416
You are posting in a shill thread.

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>>33929304
>his aircraft carrier needs a ramp

>>33929397
We just had 8 years of people blaming Obama for anything from tornadoes in the gulf to the bourbon falling of Billy-John's desk. Before that, each cent in gas-price increase was litterally caused by Bush pulled levers in the Oval Office. The same can be said when anything positive/good happened. No doubt that the most hardcore Trumpeteers believe that he micro's each post on the DoD budget himself

>>33929416

Well, clearly the west is unable to produce warships anymore without problems: LCS, Zumwalt, Type 45, Ford all have their major problems whilst the Chinese have not experienced any problems with building their warships and made just as capable ships with AEGIS equivalent.

>>33929563
Any idiot can make accusations against a person in power, likewise the burden of proof is on them.

>>33929570
> Steals our shit after the bug fixes are in
> Berates us for not fixing them fast enough

We're working as fast as we can, Lee. God damn, don't you have a factory workers strike to repress or something?

>>33929570

http://shanghaiist.com/2017/05/09/chinas-loneliest-subway-station.php
I'm sure your shipbuilding programs are going just swell, 50.

>>33929614

Not I'm just pointing out that the west will be quick to fall behind.

Even Russia is considering buying Chinese frigates.

>>33929646
Well get on it. The sooner we can start stealing your shit instead the better.

>>33929665

Well, that's good that you have no delusions that the west will remain top.

>>33929174
What the fuck is he even trying to say? What a complete idiot.

>>33929646
>Not I'm just pointing out that the west will be quick to fall behind.
Says the country with around 20 actual modern destroyers and two shitty carriers.

>>33929680
>one Yuan has been deposited into your account

>>33929174
So basically Ford class BTFO?

>>33929198
What happens when steam shuts down and you lose access to your planes?

>>33929544
I dunno, I reckon it'd be pretty sick ramping off, and doing a full 360 degree backflip before jetting off with afterburners

>>33929174
who ever described it as digital instead of magnetic deserves to be keelhauled

>>33929570
>whilst the Chinese have not experienced any problems

[citation needed]

>>33929888
So....Trump?

>>33929732
>What the fuck is he even trying to say?

Ask the articles author, note the lack of direct quotation.

>>33929950

But those two entire paragraphs are exactly direct quotation.

>>33929950
Its all a quote.

Not sure why you're confused, it is in his mentally handicapped vernacular.

>>33929174
>Trump considers electromagnetism to be so complex you need to be a genius to understand it

The articles write themselves

>>33929916
Try rereading the article.

>>33930036
>The articles write themselves

The irony of this statement is lost on you.

>>33930073
?

They literally have their piece to spin from a simple quotation, barely have to put any work in spinning it to make Trump sound like a retard.

Which he does.

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>>33929570

>>33929588
you can't use the words "idiot" and "burden of proof" together.

And you know what this board is full of, right? Hint: idiots.

>>33929640
that is some impressive infrastructure.

>>33929848
Never? Trump says stupid shit, doesn't mean its going to have any impact.

>>33930255
Oh wow. What went wrong with the hatch?

>>33929862
I keep backup copies of all my games (ALL of them) on an external hard drive. If steam ever shut down, I'd just crack all of them and keep playing.

>>33929563
Thanks Obama!

See how easy that was?

>>33929570
>Western press desperate to spin any story into negative coverage
>Chinese press flayed alive for writing story with hint of regime criticism

>>33929174
Good

Then we will have famas

>>33929174
>Reading that article

Holy fucking shit, the fucking Americans have elected a demented shitlord sperg into office. What a glorious interview.

>>33930459
>>33930459
What went wrong is that it's an outer hatch..... That opens inwards.

Think about the full retardation there.

>>33930834
Somebody copied the plans upside down

>>33929544
>Most expensive carriers in the world
>Can't even figure out how to build a ramp

>>33929441
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/05/trump-wants-goddamned-steam-not-digital-catapults-on-aircraft-carriers/526386/

>>33930821
cuck

>>33929174
Defense spending in a nutshell

>>33930941
Nah, trump is the cuck here, being that typical boomer fuck who thinks tech=bad. Not in an hyperbole way, no, quite fucking literally "What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out."

The only solace is that Mattis will straighten him the fuck out just like he did with the f-35.

>>33930821
This is the guy who made a vivid description of the cake he had with the chinese president, while at the same time thought he tomahawked Iraq and not Syria.

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OH FUG

the digital mannnn, the goddamn digital

>>33929174
I'm no Hilarry fan or anything, in fact im Canadian, but holy shit, seriously how did this guy win? Like fucking 10 years ago he sounded like he was going senile. Just his fucking speech pattern sounds near retarded, like he struggles with every word. What the fuck, you guys gotta get rid of this guy

>>33929293
where do you think they got these plans?

>>33931029
>seriously how did this guy win?

Hillary. That's it. The only reason. He is not some great statesman, not some fantastic businessman. Nope, he was just better than her.

>>33931051
Fair enough, I understand that. how did he win the fucking Republican nomination then? Out of all of them he can't have been the best choice, he's a fucking geriatric for christ sakes, hes afraid of falling down stairs cause THAT MIGHT FUCKING KILL HIM CAUSE HES SO OLD AND FUCKED.

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>>33929646
Russia's GDP is less than California's. They can't afford to develop modern anything. And we won't sell to them so they have to settle for 3rd rate shit from china.

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>>33931029
You know how in France Macron co-opted some of his opponents points and kept a clear focus on policy?

Well imagine if he didn't do that, didn't campaign in areas affected by economic downturn, spent most of his time campaigning about how he is the tip of the spear of a new movement that you can't stop and that he deserves to elected BECAUSE IT'S HIS TURN, and along with literally 90+% of the media and celebrities mocked your opponents supporters and more broadly characterized literally anyone that wanted to support a different candidate or had different views as socially unacceptable.

And of course before all of this he had installed associates in high ranking places of leftist parties and used their influence to kneecap anyone that might compete with him on the left.

>>33931092
It's a GOP tradition to make the worst choice out of all the choices available to it.

>>33931092
Well he ran against the Zodiac Killer, Ben "The Pyramids were alien grain silos" Carson and the dumber Bush. Come out shouting about a bunch of things that seem too good to be through, like drain the swamp, lock her up, no more wars, the wall and so on, an you are gonna draw a lot of crowds. Combine it all with a DNC so preoccupied with fucking over Bernie that they manage to torpedo their own case....and here we are

>>33931029
He's basically the result of stagnating wages and massive demographic changes in the US. Be happy he's not literally genocidal.

Wow Trump, way to be a total Fudd

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>>33931171
>>33931167
>>33931118
Welp thanks, guess I can just be thankful the worst we did was some pretty boy fuckface riding on his last name and the fact that he wasn't Harper.

>>33930988
are you an idiot
The Emals delayed the carrier by years and is still delaying it
It cost 1 billion dollars to procure!

No they very much should not have gone with EMALS for this carrier, maybe the next, maybe the one after.

>>33931092
The GOP primary had an absurd number of people running which split the vote.

The fact he could yell the loudest and get free media coverage by saying absurd things put him in the front.

>>33931092
Because the GOP is filled with traitors and neo-cons

We will see this happening soon in Canada when whites realize they are about to become a fucking minority, and the mainstream conservative party tells them that their time is over

Also kys shil

>>33931092

Because the media played him up. He was a 'Pied Piper' candidate believed to give Hillary the best chance to win. That was compounded by the fact they kind of lied to themselves by 'weighting' opinion polls believing there would only be a heavy Dem turnout at the polls.

With that in mind, the campaign strategy against him didn't take him seriously enough and paid the price.

>>33931297
You are a fucking moron, emals had Jack shit to do with any delays, beyond government oversight groups demanding more useless testing due to a ground based hiccup that was fixed in weeks.

You would have had an argument if you said the AAG caused delays, which it did.

Fact is emals is far fucking superior to steam and your luddite ass should be taken out back and shot.

>>33931312
>also kys shil
aw man I was asking questions, never paid much attention to the american elections

>>33929646
>Even Russia
You're saying that as if Russia's purchases are a benchmark....

>>33929174
>Implying Trump can force the kind of regression requiring completely redesigning the entire class

>>33931532
This.

The emals for the third ship is bought and paid for anyways.

>>33929174
About fucking time!! Digital was a meme

Those Chinese engineers on that test rig with the experimental EM catapult must be pissed off

>>33931677
They already decided to go with steam

>>33930821
>shitlord
hey reddit

>>33929174
F-35 fixed. We are going analog.

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>>33929174
>Emals is bad
>E-mails

Jesus christ he's got dementia.

>>33929174
It's a good thing Presidents don't actually have any influence on how ships are designed.

>>33930941
Ok Bevin

>>33932010

Man is it nice to see the people turning against the /pol/acks.

>>33929174
Nice source, buttblasted libshit.

>>33932081
You do realize he is that stupid right? These are direct quotes.

>>33930821
I'm jealous tbqh

Presidents worldwide are incompetent, at least the Americans have a funny president

>>33930255
That's a Type 052C destroyer. 10 years older than the 54A friates.

>>33930255
Now what's this I hear about the Chinese Navy being a "Threat"? Look at them, they cant get damn pump started and resort to bailing water with their noodle pans.

Create an American Project Habakkuk and call it a day.
Carrier that's unsinkable and has a huge runway so there's no need for complicated catapults/ aircraft-limiting ramps.

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>>33931747

>>33929246
>>33932260

Well I'm learning about some weird shit today.

"Digital" is such a moronic misplaced misnomer in this situation its not worth the characters we've already wasted.

Electrical, Pneumatic, Hydraulic, Electro-magnetic (which is part of electrical anyways)

Those are the options, digital is 2^x or log base 2. 0 or 1, on, or off. Catapults have nothing, ZERO, to do with digital.

If steam is controlled by PLCs, then digital bits are controling the pneumatic system, but the catapult cant be digital.

Am I wrong? or am I wrong?

>>33932818

No man wrong, the digital catapults are either fully retracted or fully extended, there is no acceleration, or even movement for that matter. Its like fucking quantum, if the sensor thinks the quibit is spin up, the plane sits there, if the spin changes, the plane is instantly, faster than the speed of light, shot off the deck, and time slows for the pilot relative to every other mass object in the universe. Fucking turns into a wave like a photon and then reintegrates into matter once relativistic speeds are slowed down to something more comprehendable.


>His jets don't turn into photon wave/particles when launched

fucking plebs

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>>33932860
>His jets don't turn into photon wave/particles when launched

>Project Slipstream, test pilot Lena Oxton

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>>33932818

Well actually--
>Am I wrong? or am I wrong?
I... uh...

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>>33931021
>so how does this electrical thing work
>like shit, sir
>well what are you gonna use on the new carriers?
>electrical, sir
>AND WHY THE FUCK IS THAT?

I don't get the problem here

>>33934558
It works just fine, whoever he was talking to didn't know jack shit.

>>33934666

Exactly.

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>>33929174

Still better than a fucking skii-ramp

>>33929563

>No doubt that the most hardcore Trumpeteers believe that he micro's each post on the DoD budget himself
Indeed. Fortunately it's not the case.

>>33934892
The same reasons Trump is stamping his feet for steam apply to ramps as well. You'd only need someone to tell him that ramps are fucking great and have no downsides to get him going.

>'Sir, we’re staying with digital.' I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good."

I love the Military–industrial complex NOW!

>>33929293
>.50 cents has been deposited in your account
>Thank you for your service

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Is this what he meant by a much nigger navy?

>>33937544
Please tell me that's a real headline and that was somehow posted without anybody catching it

>>33937584
It's real, google it

>>33929293
>t.midget carrier with ramp and steam turbine propulsion
>muh EMALS

>>33929174

Sad!

I did try and fuck her, she was at someone's dry dock.
And when you're president they let you do it.
Grab them by the EMALS. You can do anything
-Donald J. Trump

>>33932818
Digital as in the planes are pushed off the flight deck with the hands and fingers of the deck crew. In addition you excite the plane to provide more thrust with your fingers. You can also finger the steam boilers to provide a good squirt of steam to the catapult.

The runners need to be fast but we have plenty of black people. It is doable.

>>33929640
It's just part of the infrastructure for future re-education plans when they put their intellectuals behind oxen, how else do you expect the intellectuals to get to their ox?

>>33930103
Watch the joke fly over the recipient, the epic new movie

>>33929907
THISTHISTHISTHIS

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>>33937632

They should be going to gas turbine propulsion with full gas turbine divert for the catapult. And the Chinese should too it would make even more sense for them. I quote:

....GE 6000 marine propulsion turbine [] has a pressure gain at the HP compressor of 29 and delivers an inlet gas to the combustion part of the turbine of 14.2 PSI X 29 or 411.7 PSI available as a high pressure bleed to supply the catapult.

The launch pressure required to deliver a 3G launch to a 70,000 pound loaded plane is 210,000 pounds. Given a catapult cylinder of 18” inner diameter, that provides a radius of 9” and an area of 9 X 9 X 3.1416 = 254.5 sq inches. At two tubes, that totals 509 sq inches. 210,000 / 509 sq inches =412.5 PSI.

This strikes me as an amazing coincidence, given the 411.7 PSI launch pressure available from the GE 6000 as a high pressure bleed is an ideal match for the C13-1 catapult requirement...

Holding military industrial complex accountable for thier subpar products at exorbitant prices is bad?
Isn't this how we got F35 discount?

All these fags butthurt that we are sticking to proven and time tested tech because they want a railgun that shoots planes

>>33938249
Agreed friend. Lets go back to coal boilers, since we're going to expand the coal industry anyways.

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>>33937632
>Digital as in the planes are pushed off the flight deck with the hands and fingers of the deck crew. In addition you excite the plane to provide more thrust with your fingers. You can also finger the steam boilers to provide a good squirt of steam to the catapult.

>>33938388
What improvements does it have that make it worth the money?

>>33938249
>Isn't this how we got F35 discount?
No, it is not. The F-35 planned cost reduction was already ongoing. LM's response to Trump shitting onto twitter was basically "yeah, we'll get on what we're already doing, idiot."

>All these fags butthurt that we are sticking to proven and time tested tech because they want a railgun that shoots planes
A system that's more expensive, requires miles of piping from the reactors, and eats up a ton of otherwise usable internal space in the carrier, that can't be adjusted to provide an optimal launch velocity for whatever plane and loadout is set in it?

>>33938406
>What improvements does it have that make it worth the money?
Ultimately less expensive to build, lower maintenance, frees up a ton of internal space in the ship, smoother launch because it can be adjusted for the planes and payloads being launched...

>>33929315
The EM cat malfunctioned whole the time and is a reason why Ford class carriers are still not adopted.

They should've make a "testbed" CV with all the crazy shit they're considering while building conventional ones in meantime instead of wasting money on unproven technology.

>>33938441
>I'm full of shit but really confident about it on an anonymous Tibetan Basket Weaving platform

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You know the doctrine is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our fire tactics doctrine. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology].

I said you don’t use shock anymore for doctrine? No sir. I said, "Ah, how is it working?" "Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the élan. You know the shock is just brutal. You see that sucker going and bayonets are going all over the place, there’s bodies thrown in the air."It sounded bad to me. Fire. They have fire. What is fire? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Ferdinand Foch to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to raise more infantry divisions. I said what doctrine are you going to be–"Sir, we’re staying with fire." I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned shock, the fire costs hundreds of millions of francs more money and it’s no good.

They delays in the ford class, some of them being emals is very scary. I'm not sure we have enough active carriers.. somebody else might actually launch a working carrier with an active air wing.

>>33938576
Just think of it as investment so we don't have these problems building the rest of the fleet.

>>33938576

>I'm not sure we have enough active carriers
Indeed we don't.

>>33931021
People are just super critical of Trump. He's not saying anything dumb here.

A steam powered catapault is pretty easy to understand, we all know about hydraulics, etc.

You want to understand a digitally controlled electromagnetic catapault? Maybe a little harder.

And if some sailor is saying the thing sucks, why keep using it?

>>33931283
That's gonna be a bleeder

>>33931336
This is the real answer.

>>33931051
>better
Let's not lie here; at least the "for the lulz" narrative is believable.

>>33940682
>why keep using it?

For the estimated $4 billion savings during the ships llfecycle due to decreased maintenance.

>>33940682
>A draft dodger who barely understands his own niche field of real estate should be telling the Navy how to manage their technological advances

>>33940682
>And if some sailor is saying the thing sucks, why keep using it?
Probably because he's just some sailor

>>33929293
Don't worry anon, I got your sarcasm.

>>33941071
See >>33931118

>>33940682
Random sailors don't always make the best decisions mate.

>>33931336
This though. The man's an idiot, but I split the blame 60-40 between Hillary's campaign and Trumps, respectively. She, like Trump, rode her name (and vagina) to the nomination, steamrolling legitimate Democrat candidates. She was the only one who could have lost to Trump, and we all knew it. Neo-Con denial about Trump's credentials and ability to lead were met by the left with Feminist denial about the same aspect of Hillary's career.

The 2016 election will go down in as the greatest clusterfuck in American electoral history. Regardless of your party alignment, support for the current POTUS, or the future of the Union, the system clearly did not work as intended .


more to the topic at hand; does Trump even have the authority to tell the USN to abandon EMALS in favor of steam catapults? Seems like there's some congressional budget magic that would need to be sorted out first, and I doubt Trump would be willing to go full sperg over this to sway congress to support these (idiotic) views. He's not a military man, and a lot of member of congress are; this is really the only thing they can all say "no, we really know better" to him about.

>>33942103
reddit spacing

>>33942152
The fact that you know more about reddit than I do seems to conflict with the point I'm assuming you're trying to make.

>>33942152
Go back to tumblr.

>>33942176
He's right though.
Maybe you should go back to rebbit.

>>33929174
So let's sum this up
>No F-35
>No LCS
>No Zumwalt
>No EMALS
American "navy".

>>33929174
holy shit, talk about being a fucking luddite

>>33942416

Apparently the Navy brass is now fairly upset.

>>33943975
As they should be when this know nothing talks out of his ass.

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>>33929646
Nope.

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>>33945756

>>33942103
>steamrolling legitimate Democrat candidates
Name one
Bernie agreed to lose from the get go, he was never a candidate, and isn't actually a democrat either

>>33945784
>Bernie agreed to lose from the get go
Go fuck yourself.

>>33931723
honestly at this point with all the shit going on with the f-35 it looks like that might be an improvement

>>33930884
>most expensive superbike in the world
>cant even figure out how to build training whee-
>needing training wheels lol

>>33930501
>yfw your external harddrive gets corrupted

>>33931336

This is correct. His opposition used their media surrogates to push him, expecting an easy win.

It's also important to note the dynamic in the Republican primary. A bunch of highly polished, risk adverse, waffling liars went up against Trump, who took bold risks, stuck his neck out to display leadership, and actually had a pulse on what people wanted to hear.

Every modern political campaign image is "zero defects", this is why Howard Dean's presidential campaign was sunk when he yelled awkwardly once. Trump's campaign was "truth to power". This is why none of his flaws amounted to jack shit. He wasn't pretending he was flawless, he was being the outspoken advocate of the everyman. He could be brash and imperfect, while his opponents couldn't respond in kind because their entire campaign revolved around not making mistakes.

Bernie Sander's "Santa Claus" campaign may have won, but Hillary's "I'm the most experienced person ever, I'm completely flawless, it's my turn anyway, the sea of skeletons you're drowning in don't really exist" campaign wouldn't have beaten anyone. If Democrats had elected Jim Webb he would have won in a landslide.

>>33945788
Bernie bent the knee at the alter of Clinton, took the money, houses, cars and ran. Sucker. But you're a faithful Bernie commie bot and that makes you insane.

>>33931353

>EMALS is far superior!
>Your luddite ass should be taken out back and shot!
>No, of course not with a finicky electromagnetic gun, those are unreliable.
>We'll use an M9, it operates based on expanding gas, is cheap, and reliable as fuck.

>>33946310
Jim Webb is a good guy. Unfortunately, he just shows how much the Democratic Party (at least nationally) has gone even further left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad0_gxH5nTc

>>33945788

lol truth hurts

Remember that bit at the end where Bernie actually gave Hillary a run for her money?

And then later we got to see leaked emails from that time period showing Hillary's team was pissed that Bernie wasn't honoring "the deal"?

Sorry, but he wasn't a real candidate, this is why he abruptly went from vowing guerrilla war to completely selling out.

>>33946376

He is, and he's a guy most republicans would have voted for over Donald Trump, much less moderates. He also would have avoided the visceral hate Hillary evoked from 70% of voters.

>>33929174
And now this madman has access to our steam codes, Wtf thanks America hopefully Putin forgets there's a country above you when he gets tired of Donald Chumps antics

Thank God for Trudeau

>>33938504

This man deserves a reply. I got a chuckle out of it.

>>33937587
Holy shit lol

There is literally nothing wrong with steam catapults.

Why does Trump speak like a 6 years old boy who is some years behind the other 6 years old boys?

>>33942103
If only Biden's son didn't die.

We could have an awesome president now.

>>33945756
>417
Is that the number of months needed to build the ship given russia's current GDP?

>>33930255
Wow that's pathetic

>>33929888
you have to be as simple as possible when explaining complicated things like this to children.

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>>33947403
Most people, including the bulk of /k/, do not know their asshole from their elbow when it comes to the minutia of military equipment.

>>33946339
>>33946379
What, was he going to suddenly start supporting the Trump campaign, which literally stood in antithesis to his ideals? You're fucking idiots.

>>33947862

No you slow mother fucker, he was supposed to support the Bernie campaign. Instead he agreed to lose from the beginning and sold out to Clinton. Since you're too simple to figure this out I'll spoon feed it to you. Clinton was also the antithesis of his ideals, this is why his base revolted instead of falling in line.

>>33948839
You're a fucking retard. He didn't support Clinton until after the primaries were over.

And Clinton was far closer than Trump, dumbass.

>>33930255
>Ching Li holding the hatch closed with his head in the way...
did he died?

>>33938504
The sheer effort that went into this is top tier.

>>33948922
Hopefully. Fuck the Chinese.

>>33948851
>And Clinton was far closer than Trump
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
now that what i call effective brainwashing

>>33946302
At least it's not broken either by mechanical or sectors. You can possibly repair corrupted files especially if the file is from a torrent, just recheck the data and let it downloaded the missing/bad parts of the file.

>>33949222
Stop being retarded, anon.

>>33929570
you really think countries like China and Russia are going to let the entire world know when something goes amiss with their tech as much as the US FOIA does?

>>33949510
He said, being retarded

>>33929646
for a military as strong as russias, its an embarassment the navy theyve got, and they dont have the resources nor money to make their own nor do the R&D for new ones, so why not take the easy route

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>>33930863
hah This

>>33950373
Have you paid any fucking attention to what Trump has done or said, ever? Clinton was at least willing to compromise and work with Sanders on her policy positions.

>>33950483
he was correcting your sentence you sensitive asshat, calm the hell down

>>33950500
Oh shut up, idiot.

so what exactly is going on with the EMALS?

>Trump says...

I'm going to save you a lot of confusion, OP. The man doesn't know what he's talking about except at the most general level (ISIS is bad, a good economy is good, illegal immigration is bad, etc). His statements are that of a confused child being told ''no'' for the first time, a pampered billionaire stepping right into the middle of an internecine conflict waged along partisan lines in D.C. Take everything he says like a random blog post, because, sadly, that's how much credibility he has at this point. Despite with the alt-morons tell you, he's not playing 3d chess. Hell, I'd be surprised if Donald could beat a monkey at checkers.

>>33950648
And after how he acted towards his opponents in the Primaries he has a lot of bad blood on the right side of the Senate, which is already a weak one-seat majority.

>>33950741
''You have to send these guys back so we can build the wall and repeal Obamacare!''

>>33950741
Two seat majority.

Likely to increase next year, at minimum by 1.

Unseating McCaskill should be easy in a state like Missouri. They could've done it last time had they not nominated a complete and utter buffoon.

>>33929174
Why the fuck is electromagnetism better? Steam is simpler, costs less, and works.

>>33937587
Immense kek

>>33950648
This level of analysis is why Hillary lost despite (supposedly) having a double digit lead in the polls.

>>33929174
>We're going with goddamned steam.
So that's how he's planning to save the coal industry.

>>33942152
>using a second space to separate your posts is reddit now
fucking pathetic

>>33951458
Hillary lost because:
A: She was a weak candidate the party was overconfident in.
B: The Republicans have waged a heavy-handed campaign over the last several years to make voting inordinately difficult for areas more likely to vote against them, via gerrymandering, closing polling locations to make getting there harder and take a lot more time when they do, and Voter ID laws specifically engineered to make it impossible for many groups of legitimate voters to be allowed to vote.

>>33951458
>>33952070
Hillary was a bad candidate, plain and simple. The DNC choose their candidate years before the primary giving the RNC an advantage, and she is literally one of the most unlikable people in the world. They ran the ugly girl in the beauty contest and lost.

>>33952070
And yet those voter ID laws still didn't prevent Hillary from winning the popular vote.

>The EMALs system has an estimated 0.2% chance of surviving one day of normal operations
>The launch system can survive ~500 launches before component failure becomes an issue
>the catcher can survive, like, 75 catches before the same issue crops up

We were gonna have to replace it anyway but this way we don't have to replace a destroyed Ford-class carrier too.

>>33952070
>voter id laws
This shit has been debunked so many times, that even ghetto blacks laugh at pussified whites like yourself who think the man be keepin they down wit dem raycis IDs n sheit.

>>33952203
>it's been debunked!
Not that anon, but no it's not.

When you make laws requiring ID's to vote, and then try to close almost all of the offices where people can get those ID's ("try" because people complained, and were able to stop them), it's hard to claim anything but voter suppression.

>>33952129
>>33952203
https://twitter.com/Greg_Palast/status/862089318130630656

>>33952270
>some faggot on twitter said it, so it must be true

>>33952268
>When you make laws requiring ID's to vote, and then try to close almost all of the offices where people can get those ID's
you can vote with a drivers license, CCW license, military ID, or any other form of ID. if you can't obtain ID, you don't deserve to vote.

>>33952286
>Hurr sourced and referenced facts about the election that point to a result I don't like are to be automatically dismissed!

>>33952325
>It's easy for me to get an ID, fuck you if it's not for you!

And strict ID states like Wisconsin did in fact make IDs from state agencies like the University of Wisconsin invalid.

>>33952337
dude, if you can't even prove that you're a citizen of the united states, why should you be allowed to vote?

>>33952330
>Twitter says it so it must be true.
The idea that voter ID laws specifically target blacks is insane and offensive. Will you ever hear a liberal demanding that ID laws concerning firearms be revoked under the same "racism" logic? No, of course you won't.

It's partisan bullshit, and you're an idiot for falling for it.

>>33952341
>completely ignores the part about ID's from state agencies being considered invalid
>makes an adhom attack instead
Yup, totally on the side of freedom, you are!

>>33952355
>implying UoW doesn't harbor illegals
what is so fucking hard about getting a drivers license, you communist rat?

why should we allow non-citizens to vote?

>>33952358
Of for that matter, a state issued on-driving license. I used to have one of those before I bothered to get a car. It was cheaper than malt liquor.

>>33929907
GROROIUS READER SAY CHINESE SHIP NUMBAH 1 IR WORL, CITATION IN GULAG

>>33952358
>Still parroting the lie that Voter ID is about preventing ineligible voters

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/some-republicans-acknowledge-leveraging-voter-id-laws-for-political-gain.html
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/glenn-grothman-joins-other-republicans-in-admitting-voter-id-laws-are-about-suppressing-democratic-voters/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wisconsin-voter-id-2016_us_5704a2eee4b0a506064d90cf
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/glenn-grothman-voter-id-wisconsin-republican-2016/
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35539-the-gop-is-now-bragging-about-voter-suppression
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/accidental-republican-candor-about-voter-id-laws
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/06/wisconsins_voter_id_sham_republican_rep_admits_the_law_targets_democrats_its_time_for_the_rest_of_the_gop_to_say_it_too/

>>33952430
first of all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

you continue to avoid the question. why should we allow non-citizens to vote?

>>33952398
>EASY FUR MEE SO WUEEAAYY CUNT UDDERS!

>>33952358
Look faggot, noone is saying they want non-citizens to vote!

But the simple truth of reality is that individual voter fraud (as in, a non-citizen pretending to be one, or even a citizen pretending to be another citizen) is so small as to practically be non-existing for the purposes of reliable election results.

So the argument that they were enacting these regulations to combat that potential fraud, while at the same time literally making it more difficult for actual citizens to vote, makes their whole argument ring false.

>what's so hard about getting a driver's license
Aside from having to take the whole day off work, losing the money that you'd get from that (something most of the lower class can't afford to do), to wait around the DMV for who knows how long? Which is how things are NOW. And you're wondering why people objected to making that process even more difficult?

>>33952442
Keep trying to defelect. Non-citizen voting is a complete non-issue.

>Ever posting Project Falsitas as a source
How many times do they have to be proven to have faked their shit for you to learn?

>>33952452
>Aside from having to take the whole day off work, losing the money that you'd get from that (something most of the lower class can't afford to do),
Something most would lose their jobs to do, in fact.

>>33952442
You seem to be the only one here on that train of thought, friend.

>>33952460
bro, if someone from the UK can fly over here, vote, then fly out without ever providing ID because "that's racist", you have allowed a non-citizen to vote.

why should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

>>33952452
>noone is saying they want non-citizens to vote!
then why don't you accept proper ID laws?

>is so small as to practically be non-existing for the purposes of reliable election results.
not an argument.

>Aside from having to take the whole day off work, losing the money that you'd get from that (something most of the lower class can't afford to do), to wait around the DMV for who knows how long?
too fucking bad. i had to start working at 12 to support my little sisters because dad was never home and mom was on heroin. you don't get to cry about how hard everything is in matters like these. if i can do it, so can you.

why should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

>>33952453
you're the one deflecting here friend. why should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

>>33952478
>Still parroting this red herring
It doesn't fucking happen.

You know who was getting caught performing individual voter fraud? Numerous Trump voters AT HIS DIRECTION:
https://news.vice.com/story/trump-tells-supporters-to-counteract-voter-fraud-by-committing-voter-fraud

>>33952478
I think the robot is broken, it seems able to only ask one question (that isn't even a conclusion anyone would defend).

>>33952500
why are you completely incapable of answering a simple question?

why should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

>>33952505
why should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

>>33952507
I would like to return this model for one that is capable of independent thought, please. Mine seems to talking to itself and imagining wild conclusions. I bet it's made in China, always ripping us off in trade.

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>>33952507

>>33952517
>oh no i can't actually answer a simple question, better start gaslighting
why should non-citizens be allowed to vote?

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>>33952522
THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO YOU IDIOT.

>>33931283
Poor guy. Just wants to go out and shoot some guns before the cancer gets him but the gun gets him first.

>>33952530
then why are you against measures to prevent non-citizens from voting?

>>33952452
>Look faggot, noone is saying they want non-citizens to vote!
Except they are, thats the whole fucking point, Democrats willingly engage in rampant voter fraud
Hence why Trump will push for national voter ID

Further: Only a retard would think universal suffrage is a good thing, and that people who can't make the minimum effort of getting an ID should be allowed to vote.

>>33952522
It was more of general insult, but you have fun asking it over and over.

>>33952530
In blue states and blue cities they ARE allowed

They also engage in ballot stuffing and miscounting votes

>>33952547
That is a wonderful unsupported conclusion. Will you tell me another story before I go to bed?

>>33952535
Because that has never been the real purpose of Voter ID you simpering moron.

>>33952560
>>33952553
Mad treasonous dems spotted

Your games are through

>>33952540
>Except they are, thats the whole fucking point, Democrats willingly engage in rampant voter fraud
That's a pretty damn big accusation without any evidence to back it, yet I've posted multiple sources that actually show the intent of Voter ID (Suppression of legitimate democrat-leaning voters) and its effects (massive downturn in black voters in Voter ID states).

>>33952553
>more gaslighting

contrary to what CNN may have you believe, simply stating that something is not true does not make it untrue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

>I think there is a lot of voter fraud.
>New York doesn't have voter IDs, right?
>No you can't, you cannot ask.
>They what?
>They can't ask for voter ID.

>>33952560
right so let me get this straight: in every country that ISN'T the US, proof of citizenship is required for a fair election, but the US is different because of the evil republican boogeyman?

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>>33952577

>>33952581
>says the guy who completely denied the existence of a video featuring the guy in charge of new york state elections saying voter fraud happens on a large scale and the democrats are the main ones doing it

>>33952579
>Only source is a Project Falsitas edit
>Keeps repeating it as if anything from that shithole group is valid

>>33952337
Use your driver's license then.

If you're old enough to vote, you're old enough to have a driver's license.

>>33952593
>Still parroting that anything from that group is valid
It's a fucking tainted source, nothing they put out can be considered worth watching.

>>33952594
>edit
provide proof that video is faked. and no, CNN saying it's fake without elaborating on why is not proof.

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>>33952530
If you make a law, then put no measures into enforcing said law, it might as well not exist.

If you allow people to vote without IDing themselves as a legitimate voter, it stands to reason that its possible for illegitimate voters to vote.

>Opportunity and means has been established

One presidental candidate is more pro-immigrant or at the very least less of an anti-immigrant hardliner than the other. It would be favorable for an illegitimate voter such as an illegal immigant for this candidate to win.

>Motive has been established

Here you are telling me it never happens, or happens so infrequently that it is a "red herring", when in reality its both feasible and reasonable for it to occur.

More to the fact, how do you even track who voted when you can't ID voters? If you can't do that, how can you know that it does not occur?

>>33952578
>Suppression of legitimate democrat-leaning voters
Wrong

>massive downturn in black voters in Voter ID states
A consequence of fraudulent vote on a massive scale ending in certain states who miraculously turned red after passing voter ID laws

It's no surprise that the dem voter base are people who weren't allowed to vote originally.

>>33952598
>IT'S EASY FOR ME SO THAT MEANS IT'S EASY FOR EVERYONE!

>>33952602
>>33952604
>>33952605
>I love denying facts because they don't fit my beliefs!

>>33952600
again, disprove it.

>>33952608
stop pretending to be for the downtrodden lower classes you selfish prick. trump won because of your hypocrisy.

>>33952612
provide proof that the video is fake.

>>33952612
What facts?

>>33952608
There is factually zero people who both WANT to vote, and aren't able to vote due to voter ID laws

Yes there might be some injuns, or homeless blacks, or anchor babies who have issues getting ID.
They should not be allowed to vote anyways

>>33952445
>getting a non-drivers license ID is hard for anybody
Wrong.
>getting one is disproportionately hard for black people
Even more wrong.

>>33952618
Seriously?
>>33952270
>>33952430

>provide proof that the video is fake.
>Every single prior video they've put out was faked to push their agenda
>HURR DIS WUN IZ REEL!

>>33952608
Yep. I live in a rural area and still managed to get one.

Not hard at all. Are you implying minorities are too stupid to get a driver's license?

>>33952622
>>33952632
>EEZY FUR MEE ZO CUNT BE HURD FER NEBUDDY ELZE!

>>33952630
that isn't proof that the video is fake moron. give proof that it's fake.

>>33952500
>It doesn't fucking happen.
It absolutely happens. I work for a large tech company in Washington (state). Half my coworkers aren't American citizens. They all get ballots in the mail. They sheepishly claim they didn't vote with them. Which is bullshit.

>>33952643
>Hey, a tainted source that has always been lies isn't enough to discredit

>>33952649
>I have a bullshit anecdote of questionable validity that doesn't even prove my point!

>>33952636
Obama went on TV, and told them that illegals can vote, noone will go after them

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>>33932260
As fuckmazing as the US industry is, they cannot shit out ten Habakkuks in any reasonable timeframe.

>>33952632
>Are you implying minorities are too stupid to get a driver's license?
That's precisely what he's implying. He thinks that just because it's easy for a white man to do it, doesn't mean that it's easy for a black man. In other words, he thinks that blacks are less capable.

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Hey faggot(s), when you're done greentexting at people, try answering this

>>33952604

>>33952656
that isn't an argument. you're using your own statement that veritas is tainted as proof that a video of a notable official admitting voter fraud takes place is fake. that's akin to someone on trial for murder using their own statement that they didn't kill anybody as proof that they didn't kill anybody.

give actual proof that the video is fake.

>>33952656
>What you experienced didn't happen
Maybe you can convince yourself this way, but you can't make me question what I've personally witnessed. Washington state is a liberal state and mails ballots to non-citizens. That's a fact.

>>33952668
>That's precisely what he's implying. He thinks that just because it's easy for a white man to do it, doesn't mean that it's easy for a black man. In other words, he thinks that blacks are less capable.
Hey, when people can't get around town easily, can't leave work during business hours, can't get time off, and don't get any kind of benefits. But no, you know better because you live in the middle of fucking nowhere and get paid vacation and have an accomodating boss.

>>33937544
...Is that a fucking salt and pepper shaker on that shi- what the fu-

>>33952672
>that isn't an argument. you're using your own statement that veritas is tainted as proof that a video of a notable official admitting voter fraud takes place is fake.
They have deceptively edited every. single. video. they. have. put. out. How is this any different?

>>33952703
give proof that the video is fake. simple as that.

>>33952705
Why should I put in the effort when such editing is both easy and their modus operandi?

>>33952715
because you need to prove your argument.

>>33952695
>muh poor poor black people

>>33952721
>Reprove shit that has a pattern
Tainted. Fucking. Source.

>>33952725
>Hurr fuck anybody who has problems I don't have!

>>33952742
>He's a democrat on /k/

>>33952742
you're doing it again. your own statement that the source is "tainted" does not make it tainted, and you can not quote yourself as proof.

prove the video is fake.

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>>33950560
Original testbed had a bit of problems, got patched out within four months. AAG (advanced arresting gear) had a few more issues. AAG is a companion project to the EMALS.
Everything's fairly much patched out and fixed up now.

>>33952578
Give it up, I left this thread earlier when it became apparent that they're either trolling.

When literal quotes from republicans saying they're doing it to suppress voters won't convince these idiots, nothing will.

>>33952612
Delicious irony.

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>>33952430
>NYtimes
>huffpo
>CNN
>MSNBC
>Salon

into the trash it goes

somebody was telling me the other day that this board was filling up with redditors and I didn't believe them but holy shit it's really bad

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>>33950976
EM catapults can scale power depending on the aircraft being launched. Traditional steam cats... can't. Traditional steam cats also require additional space for piping and shit, and are more maintenance-intensive than EM cats.
Also, you can use it as a cannon in case SHTF (jk... or not, you might never know)...

>>33952579
>dat video
Did they ever release the unedited footage of that conversation?

>>33952605
>A consequence of fraudulent vote on a massive scale ending in certain states who miraculously turned red after passing voter ID laws
Looks like someone failed junior-high science class. Since starting with a conclusion, and forcing your results to conform to it, rather than the other way around, is fucking basic.

>>33952806
>someone flat out admitting that the democrats bus people around to vote multiple times, which is voter fraud, somehow is fake because we don't have 3 hours of someone sitting around breathing at a party

>>33952751
>ACORN
Blatant fakery, office only humored the crazy people as they collected enough audio to reedit into the video released.

>Planned Parenthood
Engaged in fraudulent misrepresentation of who they were to get a doctor to open up as a fellow medical professional and collect enough audio to reedit to say what they wanted her to.

It's their method and easy as hell for them to re-edit people to say whatever they want them to. Similarly O'Keefe's video "proving" voter fraud was him literally following churches bring their people who needed transport to their legal voting places. And was yet another crime, voter intimidation.

>prove the video is fake
>Demanding proofs on a tainted source with a long history of video fakery

>>33952759
>random quote that voter ID laws are meant to 'suppress votes' of people who are not supposed to be able to vote in the first place

fascinating

>>33952789
>Multiple sources with direct quotes
>Durr dunt liek da source

>>33952818
>someone flat out admitting that the democrats bus people around to vote multiple times
>I don't have any actual proof of this, yet I'll ignore my side admitting they're suppressing votes because we win that way!

>>33952834
>Literally the opposite of what the GOP politicians are admitting

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>>33952836
the only thing that any of those "sources" are good for is a laugh

>>33952677
>Maybe you can convince yourself this way, but you can't make me question what I've personally witnessed.
You didn't witness shit. You're assuming something based on no more evidence than pre-conceived biases and hatreds.

Unless you witnessed them vote, you have no reason to say they did aside from "because I hate them and think they're lying!".

Now go to bed already you fucking child, I'm sure wherever you are it's past your bedtime.

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OY
THIS BOARD IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS
GO TO /POL/ FOR THAT YA CUNTS

>>33952806
Democrats bus people across state lines to vote, in blue areas they let illegals vote, they engage in illegal GOTV practices, they pay non-whites to vote, and they vote in the name of dead people/elderly/insane/etc

>>33952854
>I don't believe in what they're saying, so they're fake lol
And here we see the failure of educational systems in GOP states.

>>33952844
>you have no evidence because I refuse to accept a elections official stating it as proof

>>33952867
>I'm making a lot of serious claims with no real evidence to back it up!

>>33952856
? There are close elections constantly, even if only a few thousand illegals vote, that could decide an election

>>33952871
>Implying he actually said it at all
>Only proof is tainted source whose entire tactic is deceptive editing

>>33952878
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/20/sleazy-georgia-republicans-block-voters-voting-house-runoff-election.html

>>33952869
dude where did you come from, there was none of this bullshit on this board a month ago

>>33952721
And you need to shut up, since he's providing as much proof as you have of your earlier claims. You're literally complaining about him using your same argument you used earlier against you now. It's just sad that you're too stupid to realize. IE: That 'motive and means' shit you tried to use earlier to back up claims about why there's all these illegal voters.

>>33952895
Sounds reasonable to me

>>33952818
>not releasing the unedited footage
>even though it will prove that the video you did release wasn't edited to fit the narrative you want
>when you have a reputation for doing exactly that sort of thing
That's why.

>>33952882
>if I keep claiming the sources are fake I can pretend that Bob Creamer never stepped down

>>33938137

Holy crap! A quantified, thoughtful post!

>>33934558

>Basing multi-million-dollar budget decisions on a 20 second conversation with Petty Officer Nobody.

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>>33952895
>blog complaining that voter laws which require you to register 30 days before an election are really whitey keeping the black man down

This is why no one takes you seriously.

>33952878
>There are close elections constantly
And you explain to me how that proves that his non-citizen coworkers are illegally voting in American elections?

Unless they told him that they voted, then again all he has to go on are his biases, of which there seem to be many. Unless he saw them lined up at a polling station, or has some other TANGIBLE reason to believe they voted, all he's going off of is pure FEELS when it comes to his claim that they were lying to him when they said they didn't vote.

So his story really didn't fucking happen as he claimed it to.

>>33952867

Have a lot of time to post on 4chan since your kids got taken away, huh Alex?

>>33952985
If your assertion is that no illegals are registered to vote, then clearly you would have no issue with an indepth review of the voter rolls huh?
As well as requiring photo ID to prove who you are?

>>33952579

>Believing literally anything released by Project Veritas

Do everybody a favor and throw yourself onto the nearest train tracks.

>>33953006
>moving the goal posts this ineptly
For fuck's sake, at least pretend that you're not changing your argument completely.

You (or someone else whatever) said that their immigrant co-workers were "sheepishly lying" about not using the ballots that were mailed to them.

FUCKING PROVE IT!

I don't care about anyone else, I want you to explain how you know that your coworkers must have voted, otherwise it's just a bullshit claim made by someone on a chinese wicker basket weaving forum!

AWESOME WEAPONS DISCUSSION GUYS, JESUS CHRIST WE ARE THE JOKE BOARD NOW AINT WE

>>33953087
We were always the easiest to troll.

Then /pol/ decided that because there was some overlap between the boards, that they should own this one too, and came here to 'save' it from the libruls. Hence the constant fucking invasion and all its shitposting, and almost outright harrasment of any /k/ommando who leans the slightest bit to the left.

And I'm not saying this place needs to go full reddit, or anything. I'm just saying that people shouldn't be crawling up each other's ass over minor shit. Or trying to enforce some sort of ideological purity on /k/ besides "love freedom and guns".

>>33953111
freedom, guns, and the white race

>>33952916
Runoff elections are listed specifically as counting under the same rules as any other election in federal law, and the courts confirmed that.

>>33952978
Confirmed for not understanding what happened.

They tried to limit voting to those who had registered for the general election and prevent new registration of valor voters for the runoff. And were found in violation of federal election law.

>>33953228
>valor
Valid

>>33953200
>>33953228
The dem candidates didn't even reach 50% of the vote if added up
He's just going to lose

>>33953169
Freedom and funs are for everyone. Even redguards, and stormfags like you.

And we hate stormfags because they keep forgetting that first part.

>>33953254
>Implying that's the important part here
Why do you hate fairly and properly conducted elections that give every eligible voter the chance to do their civic duty?

>>33938504
Underrated post.

>>33953283
Because I am not an idiot who values democracy over the existance of our nation & race.

Governments are often changed or replaced, your people is forever.

>>33953272
How much freedom and guns do they have in their home countries? We hate you cucks because you are fucking idiots who value ideologies & laws & democracy over your own people.

>>33953475
>White Supremacist admits he puts the imaginary group intended to homogenize and bland out european cultures above the ideals and tenets of America

>>33953647
The modern "ideals and tents" of America were invented/perverted by communists in the post ww2 period

The founding fathers were very much nationalists, you think they would look at cities like New York filled with racially alien groups and call it "American" ?

>>33953739
Nice try rewriting history, Stormfronter.

>>33953802
Thats just how it is
The nation is what produces the country & state, not the other way around

Just because our government is filled with leftists who seek to replace us do not turn puerto ricans or mexicans or blacks into Americans

>>33953861
>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

There's nothing saying anything you claim in the Declaration or the Constitution.

>>33953887
Don't engage him, he'll just try to strawman or will just brush it aside.

>>33953887
Men being created equal is about not having nobles/peasants, not about the biological equality of all the races.

>>33952904
That's because you're from /pol/ and don't regularly go on /k/

>>33953952
Also: It's not about saying that non-whites have some inherent right to take over our country via demographics/democracy.

Countries are CERTAINLY not based on fucking rhetoric

>>33953952
>>33953981
>Idiotic Nonsense: The Posts

>>33954036
>People who kept the blacks as slaves would truly see nothing wrong with them running whites out of cities they built, or this view that America exists solely to cater to the blacks/browns

>>33954064
>Implying any of that has actually happened
White Flight was abandonment of the cities for the suburbs, retard.

>>33954118
Because the marxists in charge outlawed segregation, preserving your community, having your own schools, and started spending American tax money to move blacks into White areas

But I'm sure you think people who fought a revolution would be 100% ok with that?

>>33954199
>Because the marxists in charge outlawed segregation, preserving your community, having your own schools, and started spending American tax money to move blacks into White areas
>During the same age as McCarthy
>Implying segregation did anything but fuck over the country

>>33950373
>>33949222
Clinton quite literally shifted many of her positions to match Bernie's both during the primaries and especially after them when the fear of berniebloc voters defecting to the right was very real
Tl;dr i must be responding to /pol/teir shitposting cause you are dumb as fucj anon

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>>33937544
holy shit. is Yahoo #ourguy?
Jewgle BTFO

>>33952667
Damn, that's not even that big. I want something you can launch B52s from.

>>33954246
McCarthy, a guy who was ignored and then censured huh

Easy to talk shit about segregation when you don't live near the blacks, and when you believe concepts like self-determination or self-government don't matter

>>33952325
>if you can't obtain ID, you don't deserve to vote.
While i dont necessarily disagree with that sentiment, still doesn't change the fact that the Republican legislatures in many states actively sought to supress the votes of likely leftleaning voters and one of them even said exactly that. Just cause they mostly failed at it doesn't negate the fact that they tried really hard