Lets Settle It Once and For All

The Spetznaz would beat US miltary by a lot yes

>>33922868
they shake hands and advance south

It absolutely depends on where it takes place.

The invading force gets REKT no matter the scenerio.

>>33922868
The U.S. would win. Russia doesn't have the capacity to mount an invasion of North America.

USA has much better force projection, and by and large better infantry.

Russia has much better air defenses and anti ship batteries, as well as conscripts that DGAF and Special Forces that even further do not give a fuck.

>>33922868
Lol..
>What are private non-public skirmishes.
Literally send in spec without knowing it's setup to test training and quip.
Poor bastards, but they're brainwashed to think otherwise.

US would win, but both sides would have extremely heavy casualties.

Russian anti-air and ship defense is quite immense despite having generally a lackluster military and would pose quite a problem for the US. In the end, the US force projection, NATO allies, and ultimately military funding and resources would win out.

>>33922924
The conscripts that don't give a fuck thing wouldn't necessarily play in Russia's favor.
>>33922947
This.

>>33922868

Dumb question.

Neither side can invade the other and win.

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The average Spetznaz soldier has way more training than their American counterparts. American soldiers are mostly high school dropouts but Russians actually aspire to join their military.

>>33922868
everyone that didn't participate

>>33922993
i wonder where you pulled that from elliot lmfao

>>33922996
This.

but also this >>33922947

Also, this goes without saying, but

>ITALY

>>33922876
That Russian doesn't even have a plate on his chest; does the RA not give out plate armor to their soldiers?

>>33922868
40 year staring contest

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>>33923008
whatchu talkin bout

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>>33922993

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Wouldn't even be a contest anymore. Russia's economy is Italy-tier and their military is even smaller in all respects now nevermind outdated. At least in Soviet days they had numbers.

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>>33922868
Which side has more bullets?

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>>33922993
>Military tradition doesn't exist in the US
mfw
I'm pretty sure this is bait tho

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>>33922993

Why hello r/Asian_cuckoldry

>>33923041
call of dootie?

>>33923067
Walmart Wall of Heroes.

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>>33923027

Most of those American jet kills were by non-American Air Forces

Almost none of those Russian jet losses were from the Russian Air Force.

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>When the Americans think they can beat you when they can't even beat goatfuckers

Hmmm

>>33923646
remember when russia+ beat the goatfuckers

>>33923646

Just like the Russians beat the goat fuckers, right?

>>33923674
>>33923676

Too busy beating Ukies

>>33922868
> Lets Settle It Once and For All
lol

Neither side could successfully invade the other- in reality it'd be a stalemate, though obviously the US has better force projection. I would say Russians are more used to war though, as the public wouldn't give up after a regiment died.

>>33922993
> Russians actually aspire to join their military.
Russian here, what the actual fuck are you talking about?
People do whatever they can to avoid conscription.

>>33922868
I think you people are out of touch with reality. Stop believing the public news media. Eastern Europe, including Russia, just removed part of a problem. Not to mention the devastating Barbarossa that had occurred just in the 40's.

>>33922868
Holy shit, are people still retarded to think that Russia's shoe-string budget military is a factor?

Kill yourself.

>>33923676

You realize the Russians killed more than a million goat fuckers with a loss of 30k over 10 years?

Those are good stats.

>>33923740
what makes you think you ruskies are more used to war though? not trying piss farther than you, just want your opinion.

>>33923646
Fucking ruskis can't beat the goat fuckers without gassing more hostages than combatants.

>>33923818
Bet the nazis would be proud as well about those numbers.

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>>33923900

Are you a fucking female? What kind of vaginal appeal to emotion is that?

lol

Incinerating mudslimes is a civic duty.

>>33923929
Saving this pic! LOL! I had an officer over here to buy some furniture from me and all he complained about were the spooks!

>>33923929
Are you russtarded? Or whats up with the shitty insults?

>>33923989
Truth hurts bitch!

>>33924012
If truth would hurt, you would be rolling around all day screaming of pain.

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>>33923816
Honestly, this.

Though the scenario would go poorly for both sides, Russia's economy is a major factor in all of this.

Modern Russian equipment on display in Syria is less than impressive.
>Low number of smart munitions deployed - even for missions that would benefit from their usage
>inaccurate/indiscriminate strikes even with the newer model KH-55 derived missiles
>personal equipment is outdated (showpiece units are well-equipped but that's not the bulk of their forces)
>poor performance of Russian air defenses against the few Israeli incursions (though I'll grant this COULD be intentional)
>Aged tank forces
>Ageing air force, few truly 4+ fighters in service
>Ageing navy
>Poor sensor fusion, force integration

These are all factors that come from small military budgets. It doesn't mean fighting them will be a curb-stomp but it does mean a significant advantage for the USA.

>>33922868
Memes all the way
literally everybody knows america would win
Its not even a contest
they have way better material and alot more of it

All memes and military fanboyism aside. The US would win in a conventional war against Russia.
The US has a much larger defense budget, more military bases globally, the most powerful navy in the world, a larger population as well as a much more powerful economy and larger industrial capacity. A more "fair" 1v1 scenario would be the US vs the EU.

>>33922868
It depends on who is doing the invading, in both cases however Russia would end the war completely bankrupt and the US would enter a deep recession.

>>33924137
>Implying the US wouldn't just sell more debt and delay a recession for another 20 years

>>33924137
in order for it to be a non nuclear conflict, both parties would have to invade.

No contest the USA.

Russia just doesn't have the economy to support a conventional war. Best case scenario for Russia in a Russian Vs. US conflict is that Russia gets occupied in the russian partisans engage in a guerrilla war till the US decides its not worth it.

>>33922924
>Special Forces that even further do not give a fuck.
Holy hell, this.

I don't think Special Forces are very important in a conventional war, but man, Alpha group seems to be fucking ruthless.

>>33923740
Good post Russiabro, ignore the childish haters
We really need to ally, and drag West Euros and Leafs along with us, and start killing the mudslimes. And obliterate Islam from the planet.

>>33922993
+.35 rubles

>>33924188
You say that like Delta can't compete.

>>33924681
how can they

>>33922868
Why just nukes? Why not have them fight bare naked in mud, covered in oil and armed only with assault dildos?

>>33923818
If only that were 1mil combatants

>>33922885
Pretty much this

>>33922868
>Let's assume neither side use nukes.
This is a very unrealistic assumption, since the use of nukes against a large conventional attack is the cornerstone of Russian military doctrine.

>>33922868
At first the US is caught off guard when Italy attacks them without warning. Later in the war the US celebrates victory with their allies, of which include Italy.

>>33922993
>conscripts aspire

>>33924086
>ageing navy

Is Russia's navy even a factor outside of the Black Sea?

>>33923022
Anybody got a source on that watch?

Okay so I have a question. Alot of this has to do with Russia's economy, strong economy can be coralated with population size and geographical area (ie bug country plus hundreds of millions = good economy) so why is Russia's so shit? They are a massive country with a fair population size, and they have have to have massive oil reserves in Siberia and parts of the artic sea they control. Why is Russia's nearly third world?

>>33925686
The biggest thread the Russian Navy poses is to the environment, what with their rusting nuclear subs and ill-maintained surface fleet.

>>33922868

Which ever one goes to Mars first

>>33925917
Not true Anon! Once their subs eventually sink from the poor structural integrity of the hull, it'll make a nice artificial coral reef for the sea life

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>>33925932
Three-eyed fish need homes too.

America finally discovers how much of a HUGE pain in the ass land wars in Asia are.

America FINALLY discovers air and sea supremacy means nothing without boots on the ground.

Russia pretty much continues as usual, American taxpayer money gets wasted as usual.
Pretty much nothing changes.

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>>33925924

1/3

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>>33925961
2/3

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>>33925970
3/3

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How is this even a question? Russia's economy is shit. The U.S spends almost 10 times as much on their military. Just look at Syria now. Compare the American's performance with YPG vs ISIS, to the Russian's performance with SAA vs ISIS/rebels. This includes special forces and airforces, on both sides. Russians fucking lost Palmyra twice, like damn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0Hra_qoPI

>>33925979

Holy shit that reply.

God I hope governments don't forget people like that.

>>33922868
No more brother wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86YB3kyuqoA

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>>33923039
>Russia 150 million +or-
>USA 350 million +or-

It only ends one way for Russia.

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>>33926010
I'm a proud burger, but Russia's intervention is admirable from the perspective of what they achieved, as quickly as they did, as cheaply as they did.

Russia in all honesty didn't lose Palmyra twice, the SAA did. Honestly don't know where Assad would be without the Russian intervention.

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>>33923646
The afgans still haven't chased us out Ivan.

>>33925858

They lack an infrastructure to make use of their large population base and resources.

>>33925960

Likewise however, Russia learns what happens in a full-scale war when nobody is funneling in lend-lease supplies and its contentional military falls apart, leaving the fighting to thousands of disorganized militias who nevertheless manage to keep America from ever seizing control of the country because it's too chicken to kill "civilians", even if they're strapped to tanks to function as armour.

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>>33922868
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

Fucking hell anon.

>>33922924
Conscript morale isn't gonna produce fighting men. They don't give a fuck in the sense they don't want to fight at all.

>>33922868
>Russia
militarily and economically inferior to USA/NATO in almost every way imaginable. Completely lacks any ability to invade or project meaningful conventional force to america

>USA/NATO
Functioning economy and largest/best equipt/best trained military in the world. Could light half it's blue water naval fleet on fire and still have more force projection than Russia


Unless america literally got tired of fucking Russia into the dirt there's no way Russia would "win" without wild assumptions being made about america making retarded decisions at every turn.

Russia would be destroyed on the sea and then america would throw planes, ships, and munitions at their homeland until they gave in.


>inafter vatnik propagandizing

Russian special forces still perform ridiculous tasks like breaking bricks and smashing hammers into their stomachs.

It's a third world country that absolutely is no threat to any modern military. This isn't the red scare, we know what they have and it's all outdated, falling apart, or being sold by their own troops on the black market..

Just look at their flag ship that is a piece of shit carrier literally breaking down and falling apart. Just lol at Russia.

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>>33922885
think of all we could achieve together

my god

>>33923818
Wow murdering civilians. Congrats!!!

Anyone who thinks Russia could beat the US is delusional, lol.

>>33925961
>>33925970
>>33925979
>reddit
>phone screencap/mobile posting
kys

>>33926037
What

>>33924681
US SF don't do too well in direct engagements, that's why they bring Rangers along with them.

>>33923011
He has armor under his vest, its a slick + vest setup. You can tell by the solid green where the vest splits.

>>33922868
US would get the upper hand, but they would not be able to occupy Russia. It would end in a stalemate, though with US achieving more of it's objectives than Russia.

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>>33926837

>>33922893
good point probably, could keep that war machine running with no nukes

>>33923646
just like all of soviet union beat goatfuckers right?

my god what a fucking embarassment, at least USA didn't collapse from trying

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>>33923041
Well France, Britain, and a ton of European countries have songs for their units which have existed for centuries. Even parades are pretty common in Europe. While American military can't into parades very well unless some government official dies
https://youtu.be/Bj3n02CQJiU
https://youtu.be/s2f5pJ3aoU0
https://youtu.be/JVxb2dXCXTY

>>33923039
i really really like this image

>>33927087
Save it, it's all yours my friend :)

>>33922868
US massacre all important economic centers of Russia, no invasion.

Russias Navy is a rust bucket
It's can't even produce a stealth aircraft
It's tanks are laughable tier
They could barely take Georgia.

>>33927065

Thanksgiving day parade?

CHRISTMAS PARADE?

>>33926845
>US SF
>Delta
Stop

>>33922868
War or drinking contest?

Id be more interested in the latter. Even better would be a US Russian alliance against African nations, operatin innatoxicated

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>>33922868
Neither would win. The war would just drag along forever while both sides would try to launch invasion into anothers territories trying to establish a foothold unsuccessfully.

Both counties rely on nukes as deterrent for a god damn reason.

>>33922985
>>33922868
This youtube channel does a pretty good analysis of scenarios like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8KglkOgH-g

I don't think he takes into account how TOTTALLY RADICAL AND CRAZY SPIEZNAZ IS AND HOW LIEK 10 OF THEM WOULD TOTTALLY WIPE OUT AMERICA WITH LIKE ALL THIER TRANING N STUFF.

>>33923818
...and so they beat Afghanistan? They won?

>last I checked it sent you into an economic tail spin and made you lose the Cold War, Ivan.

>>33922924
>US
>better infantry

better equipped, maybe. US military is one of the most poorly trained in the world.

>>33924904
/thread/

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>>33927943
>US military is one of the most poorly trained in the world.

>>33927981
The only ones worse are the ones we train.

>>33927985

Self-hating Americans are are the worst

>>33927943
Prove it.

>>33927988
Or the best, because they recognise the errors of their country, and wish to fix it.

Unlike cuckolds like you who let their daughters get raped by niggers and spics and claim nothing is happening.

>>33927930
Not this stupid sockfrog again

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>>33927994
/pol/ is the other way. Go be a whiny /pol/itician somewhere else.

>>>/pol/

>>33927993
>let women into the military
>lower standards for the special forces
>let mentally sick into the military
>training only takes 9(NINE) weeks
>couldn't win afghanistan
>couldn't reliably hold iraq
>lost vietnam
>infantry cry when being mortared
>most servicemen are in it because welfare queens
>lost most, if not all cross-nation tournaments and challenges

Your nation and military is a joke, Jamel. And all your propaganda and chest beating won't do anything to fix it, unless you actually go out and do something about it.

>>33928015
>muh /pol/ boogyman

>>>/reddit/

>>33928017
First of all, almost none of that pertains to training. Cite why the training is bad, current training that is, not a war some fifty some odd years ago.

As for your greens.

>let women into the military
Rest of NATO lowered standards for women and Rus lets them in too.

>lower standards for the special forces
Gotta sauce that claim. The devil got to cite scripture, ya know.

>let mentally sick into the military
Implying the others don't. Also cite.

>training only takes 9(NINE) weeks
Time and training doesn't necessarily correlate, nor causation. Also cite that claim bitch.

>couldn't win afghanistan
Afghanistan wasn't lost. Winning hearts and minds is a whole different aspect that can't simply be fixed with rockets and bombs.

>couldn't reliably hold iraq
Did we want to?

>lost vietnam
Lost hearts and minds. We pulled out simply because we didn't care anymore at that point.

>infantry cry when being mortared
One incident, and implying other countries haven't.

>most servicemen are in it because welfare queens
I didn't know doing service and getting paid for it was welfare.

>lost most, if not all cross-nation tournaments and challenges

Gotta cite your claims man.

>Your nation and military is a joke, Jamel. And all your propaganda and chest beating won't do anything to fix it, unless you actually go out and do something about it.

I've been called a bumpkin and a hick, but never has someone ever called me Jamal before. Kind of humorous in that aspect. As for the chest beating and propaganda, look at yourself.

>>33928074
Is this autism?

>>33928034
Kek, look at yourself.

>>>/r/Antifa

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>>33928081
>buzzword in response to lack of suitable content to reply with

I'd have to say the autism applies to you. Why not you go back to /pol/ and mumble on about the jews and niggers? It's *your* people.

>>33922868
Assuming no nukes is a false assumption. If Russia were able to advance into Central Europe, they'd get nuked. If NATO/U.S. advanced into Russia, they'd get nuked.

>>33928133
not true

>>33928133

Post 1993, no nukes would be dropped on a Russian invasion of Europe, per NATO agreement

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>>33922885
russomerica alliance would be GREATEST OF ALL FUCKING TIME!

sign me the fuck up senpai.

>>33928152
Which part? Both sides retain the ability to deliver tactical nuclear weapons in case their opponent achieves a breakout. There is no way the Russians would allow NATO to take St. Petersburg. Same goes with the Russians moving toward France. Someone would pull the trigger.

>>33923646
>when youve pretty much been copying american gear for the past decade

lmfao those same goatfuckers btfo russia, americans are still there.

>>33928160
You mean the American led coalition with Russia.

US has more numbers and the lowest common demoninator tech advantage.

They win by default.

>>33922993
Read One Soldier's War in Chechnya, then come back and tell us how Russians aspire to join their military.

>>33922868
Both sides would quietly fund opposing forces in south east asia, then years later they would both fund opposing forces in the middle east.

Why let whites die when we can force brown people to do it for us.

>>33923818
im going to give you the same bantz that angry british and french give us when talking about vietnam

>MUH KAY DEE RATIO

>>33928015
>/pol/itician
You can just call them poltards, when they act like it, /pol/itician seems to be to good to describe those kind of shits.

>>33922868
Brass above just had us take a 2 hour presentation on LGBTQ
Do you think Ruskies have to do the same?

>>33927504
First time I'm hearing of these

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Here's the scenario I see playing out:

A two front war, much like WW2. Russia decides to invade Eastern Europe to capture former glory of the Soviet Union. Initially, NATO gets BTFO by ground forces.

When the US finally gets there:

The US Air Force completely fucking annihilates their air power relatively quick. United States establishes air superiority using the 5th Gen Platforms, and supports with 4th gen. The US then bombs the holy fuck out of their missile defense system with little to no casualties. This is over the pacific and in Europe.

Russia's Navy is fairly pathetic, and the US Navy quickly takes control of the pacific, as well as contains what remains of the Russian Navy to the black sea.

US Special Forces could BTFO spetznaz every day, but the average ground trooper Ivan wins by a long shot. The average US soldier is too busy getting briefings on not raping anyone, killing themselves, using PC language, or not driving drunk to become an effective fighting force. Being heavily limited by ROE, and despite the US Air and Naval superiority, the fight to beat back the Russians with ground forces is a long and arduous task. Eventually, the United States would win after a prolonged ground war, with there being heavy casualties on both sides. The US would most likely not push into Russia, but just completely cripple their ability to continue to wage a war.

Really wish we could get along to do pic related

nobody considers that china has the monopoly of rare earths matters, and russia could process those polluting agriculture destroing materials in siberia, while america biggest mine for them is in fucking california? run your muh technology with no tech inside

>>33922868
>How would war between these two countries go? Let's assume neither side use nukes.

Russia would be crushed beyond belief first in the air then on the ground.

>>33929000
Russia would be crushed within months

Right now, it wouldn't even be a contest. The U.S. wouldn't even need to fire a single bullet to crush Russia. Once Putin's buddies realize the only place they can spend money is in Russia things are going to change REALLY quickly. Russia is a mafia state, and while the don has power, he's not all powerful.

Let's face it, with the media/general American public being as liberal as it is, I don't think America will ever win another war solely because of anti-war sentiment. WWII was our last victory, before everyone turned into pussies.

>>33929000
Implying "Communist" China would give up American trade for a paper alliance with Russia.

Was K ever NOT retarded?

>>33926318
>>33922885
Oh! the glory!

>>33922868
the us guy only has limited ammo the russians like to rush b and do human wave tactics i would like to see how long they would last after there ammos done

>>33923646
Nice GSRs. Shame they can only afford one can each though.

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>>33923685
I hope you appreciate how hard this was for me to make

>>33922993
russians are "conscripted" for mandatory government conditioning, and a substantial portion of their forces are literally national guard weekend warrior level soldiers

you at least have to suck it up and sign your soul away to be a US soldier, not that it's a hard decision if you're desperate

also GED waivers stopped happening in 2012 for dropouts

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>>33922993
Not sure if RIDF or /k/ regular.

>>33923818
Well America invaded probably the most militarized, war ready country in the world in 2003 and only lost less than 200 men

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>>33924904
Because then I don't care who wins as long as I get to watch.

>>33928081
BTFOing and replying to someone is autism?

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>>33932876
Also this, before Russia stopped making casualty reports public. They already lost 3000+ Russians, why haven't they beaten a bunch of (according to Russian propaganda) back water slovs that live in a non-country? Hell the 3000+ figure was from the first year. God only knows how much it is now.

>>33922868
Both sides lose, but America loses less.

>>33923646
>Russians
>Glocks

>>33924171
If you think that Russia would not nuke a US city even with an entire Russian invasion force in the same City you are fooling yourself. They would simply claim that it was a US ammunition stockpile or outright disinformation campaign top blame Russia.

Only problem is there is huge Slavaboo phenomenon in a America right now and a President that might be in cahoots with Russia.... so I think we lose.

>>33928663
Great post except for injected your retarded kebab thing.

>>33922868
>How would war between these two countries go? Let's assume neither side use nukes.

Nobody wins.

Russia CAN'T invade or occupy any part of the U.S.

The U.S. can invade Russia but CAN'T occupy it.

That's the truth.

>>33925979
>>33925970
>>33925961

May I have a link to the thread or the username of the poster? I like this story

>>33922868
>Let's assume neither side use nukes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine_of_Russia

Under the new doctrine, Russia continues to develop and modernize its nuclear capability. "Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies, and also in case of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened."

>>33923069
Wall of Heroes in Walmarts are still a thing? I thought they stopped doing it right after 2014 or some shit when there weren't that much combat deployments.

>>33923818
>149,000 dead in Afghan since 2001
>500,000-1,000,000 dead in Iraq since 2003
>4,400 US dead in Iraq, 2,300 dead in Afghanistan
These are better stats.

>>33923646
>Comparing a military v. guerilla conflict to a military v. military conflict
anon, I...

>>33934346
>3000+
Hohol wet dreams

theres no way the US could actually advance into Russia without taking autistic amounts of casualties from random slavs going URRAHHH!!! and throwing themselves at the burgers

>>33936743
without nukes and no invasion of America the war machine can transform America's wealth into more bombs and bullets, as many as it takes.

>>33936758


well if there is no public opinion to stop the war...

>>33924050
Because he's filled with truth, whereas you're not.

>>33927779
Exactly this. Because if, God forbid, the war will actually start, that will be like:

"Nuclear launch, detected... Nuclear launch detected..." and swiftly turn into "everyone dead" scenario. And, no, there won`t be any "fallout-style" post-nuclear wasteland adventure, kid. So, /k can bitch whatever it like about "who win". In actual war of superpowers, there will be no winners.

>>33928663
oh, you are sadly mistaken if you think the US would apply limited ROEs against Russia in case of war.

In a conventional war, one clear notable conflict in doctrine is that US infantry are almost obsessively reliant on air support to attack hard targets or entrenched positions, while Russkie (motorized) infantry want to carry around as much ground-based AA to try and deny that exact airborne threat from being a factor. A war between the two in terms of holding territory might be fairly significantly influenced by which side can overcome their opponent's big offensive/defensive toy.

>>33922993
NZ army here, every in my intake badly wanted to be there. Doesn't mean we're any fucking good.

One US carrier battle group has more firepower than the entirety of the Russian navy.

>>33936761
this
if the U.S. loses, it's because of public opinion

>>33937817
American public is pampered compared to russian poplation. US wouldn't be able to gather up resources (let alone voluntary manpower) necessary to wage conventional war against any major power. Democrats would whine about the amount of people killed and republicans would whine about having to pay higher taxes necessary for the military to wage successful war. This is and has always been the reason why US has lost to fucking rice farmers and goat herders hiding in caves. The left is bunch of pussies and hippies and the right is unwilling to sacrifice their a single dollar from their own pockets.

>>33925764
The guys bomber is H&M, check there.

>>33925961
>bleddit
>phone posting
Fuck off. You are worse than fucking cancer, you cocksucker. Jump in front of a fucking train.

>>33926898
Kys.

>>33923646

proof that glock prevails and is better than russian pistol

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>>33928160
Fuck of with your Ruso-American coalition propaganda.

This is a stupid ego-wank question.

The US has more money, industrial capacity, and over twice the manpower to call into service. It's air force and navy is also significantly larger and capable.

The Soviet Union was a threat on par because it could call up these resources from a hundred satellite states it controlled, not Russia is isolated.

The only reasonable question would be 1 US army infantry division vs 1 Russian Army Infantry division etc.

>>33935630
muh ebil russians meme
fuck off )

>>33925858
>They are a massive country
you mean barren lands? lel

>>33925924
russian cosmos today is not about prestige, it's all about money. so never cuz they can't make profit of it

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>>33922993

>>33926309
>flag ship that is a piece of shit carrier
this carrier is not a flagship

>>33928017
Training doesnt stop at bootcamp your always training whether its field ops, advance schools, or courses your always training.

>>33923818
1 million unarmed civilians.
And over 10 years.
Hardly what one would call a military achievement.
Especially since USSR couldn't even control the country even after that.

>>33922993
>Russians actually aspire to join their military.
Which should tell you about how crappy life is in Russia.

Damn, the Nepalese also aspire to join the Gurkhas FOR THE PAY.
That doesn't make the Nepalese army itself any good.

>>33926117

Afghans don't have China or Russia shipping in modern era infantry weapons and training personnel as well as their CIA drug cash.

It's a completely different conflict to the USSR war.

Their's was more like Vietnam. Your's is more like Chechen.

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>>33922885
this right here.

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>>33922876
>you must be 18 years or older to post

>>33937681
which means nothing in full scale war. ^^

>>33922868
This >>33922993 is not only 100% false, but all of Russias force are green as grass and the US has been at war since you were in grade school.
The experience and capabilities of the US armed forces would steam role Russia.

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>>33922885
if only anon, if only...

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>>33936314
Have we really only lost 6,700 in Iraq and Afghanistan!?
How the fuck does perpetual warfare net so few casualties?

>>33922868
>Invasion of US
US Wins
>Invasion of Russia
Russia Wins
>Invasion of Europe
Stalemate

>>33922868
>no nukes
No war either

>>33936314
And far more money was spent as well.
Russians spent far less, counting in the money they dump on Kadyrov.

>>33927943
tired of this fucking meme

>>33922868
>How would war between these two countries go?
Russians would fuck up Americans. American men are too feminized and gay.

>>33936310
I saw one yesterday

>>33939032
it is though lmao

>>33941769
because we call air or fire support as soon as they start shooting at us rather than risking getting close and killing us

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>>33922993
Here's the deal with the Spetsnaz: They're special forces, meaning there's not a whole lot of them, despite the fact that they are highly trained. The use of special forces alone cannot win a war. It's like saying the US can win this hypothetical war with the Navy SEALS.

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>>33922885
>mfw there will never be a joint US-Russia kebab removal coalition.