Cz thread

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>>33922623

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>>33922623
Said Short Rail.

New, not beat-to-hell PCR compacts for $550, free shipping:
http://www.damascusgunshop.com/CZ-75-D-PCR-Compact-p/91194.htm

>>33922662
I wouldn't say these are beat to hell compared to some I see on CDISales. These overall look to be in good-great condition.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/645339036

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>>33922623

>>33922662
THANK YOU! I couldn't find these things in stock anywhere.

>>33922894

I wish I could get away with this, but alas I cannot. AIWB for me.

>>33923532
why wouldn't you be able to get away with using a shoulder holster?

>>33923311
Czeched those double dubs.

>>33923869

You need a jacket. And I am not going to wear a jacket literally everywhere.

>>33923876
real human bean does it why can't you

>>33923887

Which one? Nutnfancy or Gosling?

And I can't because I live in Florida. It is going to start being mid-90's to 100 degree weather soon.

>>33923907
You could always wear a Hawaiian shirt and go all Miami classic on us.

>>33923907
gosling

texasfag here i feel you, although i started wearing those columbia fishing shirts and they are baggy enough for an owb and cool enough to wear in the summer

>>33923931
>although i started wearing those columbia fishing shirts and they are baggy enough for an owb and cool enough to wear in the summer
You know I was about to suggest that to him.

>>33923926

You mean unbuttoned? That's just asking for a problem from literally any breeze, and it is breezy as fuck down here.

>>33923931

Eh, they don't really mesh with my style. People would wonder why I am bubba'ing it up and want to know if I wanted to go fishing with them this weekend at 4 AM.

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>>33922623

Czech police trade ins.

Basically they're P01s

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>>33922623
There a Shadow 2 on GunBroker.
Have to resist the urge to buy

My P-09 has an odd quirk, and I'm not sure if it's just a CZ thing or not.

But basically when I have the decocker installed and use it, I notice a very faint click from my hammer when I put my thumb on it to fully cock it again. Slightly pulling the trigger also causes the same tiny click to ring out. When I hold the hammer and slowly let it fall to half-cock, that click doesn't happen when I pull it back again.

Anybody know what that is?

Canik Sharks worth it? or should I go Jericho?

>>33924080
jericho, canik is cockroach company.

>>33924103
Its basically rats vs roaches

>>33922894
Patrician carry rig

>>33924045

Which one? There are a few.

>>33924127
I only saw one.
$1,250 buy it now.
Not bad considering they are selling for $2,000 a few months ago.

>>33922701
They look pretty beat, and they're not cheap either.
I'd bite at 350, maybe even 375... but bidding starting at 400? Fuck no.

I miss the days before CZ became a fetishized cult brand, back when you could get them new for 350.
Nowadays, go for a new Tanfoglio instead - I humbly think they're better guns too.

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cz thread you say?

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>>33924179
only recently have I seen people talking about this, I never really took notice and it doesnt bother me, is it triggering for autism or something I don't understand?

>>33924179
Does this actually bother anyone? I like it.

>>33924179
What am I missing?

>>33924312
its the rail, it extends out a little bit further than the slide.

>>33924312
I think the slide rails going past the frame.

>>33922623
So I was at a gun show the other day and saw a pretty new Sarsilmaz 9mm with a full steel frame for 375. Is this a great deal or something? I thought it was pretty good honestly but didn't buy it

>>33924300
I never noticed it until someone told me about it.
I'm curious of CZs reason for making that.
There has to an engineering reason .

Also, checked

>>33924067

No one?

>>33923985
Where?

>>33924045

WTF makes them a $1k+ pistol? Are they race guns?

Sexy AF though

>>33924080

I have a Canik/Tri-Star T-120 and it's a decent handgun. Not CZ quality but at <$300 on sale it was a no brainer.

>>33923985
That looks sexy.

>>33924173
a few of them are definitely well used, but beat isn't what I'd describe them.

>>33924367
It's not something I'd buy, but I like the originals better so take that for what it's worth.

>>33924067
It's czeching to make sure you're paying attention.

I literally can't decide what cz handgun to get
do I go compact? full size? not to mention there are 9001 models to choose from

fug I can't make decisions. I just want something to complement my scorpion sbr

>>33924613
full size is the way to go but semi compact is also acceptable.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/645388832

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>>33924173
I wouldn't say they look totally beat but I do agree that 400 is a bit high as a starting price for these auctions.

I wish there were more 75Bs on the surplus market. CDI's stock is almost always just pre-B, and I don't really want to lose magazine compatibility by picking up the older frame design.

>>33924179
Will never understand how this bothers people to any meaningful extent.

>>33924613
>I just want something to complement my scorpion sbr
Just grab an SP-01 from KYGunco and be done with it senpai.

>>33924385
I've heard two reasons given:
One, it protrudes just far enough that pushing the muzzle into a surface will push the slide back enough to break the gun down.
Two, it keeps the weight just under some limit for some competition.

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>>33924650
>I wish there were more 75Bs on the surplus market. CDI's stock is almost always just pre-B, and I don't really want to lose magazine compatibility by picking up the older frame design.
Bud's gun shop has some I believe. Unless the shenanigans they pulled bothers you, there's that option.
As far as your magazine capatability is concerned, I have a '91 Pre B and new production mags work in it. However the same series production run didn't like the new mags though. So it'll vary.

>>33924497

Top tier competition gun.

Out of the box they are G2G for 90% of people who compete. You can make some changes and you'll hit 95%, and you can go full custom and hit 99%. It's a tremendous gun.

>>33924497
The shadow 2 is basically the best out of the box competition gun you can buy.

>>33924728
Hell, I just took a dremel and took about 1mm of material off the magazine well of my 1990s Pre-B and now it'll take 16 round mags just fine.

17 and 19 rounders with the plastic base plates don't work still, though.

>>33925479
>19 rounders with the plastic base plates don't work still, though.

For me that's an issue unfortunately, I've got a handful of them already and only plan to acquire more. Such is life.

Out of curiosity, what's preventing them from working? I find it kinda odd that only the larger capacity magazines dont work for you.

>>33922623
>currently debating between a CZ P07 or getting an Arex that doesn't have near the history CZ has behind it
>Constantly wondering if there's something else i should be looking at instead
>saving up cash and constantly researching just shows me even more handguns I want and doesn't make it any easier.

I mean I'm still saving up for a good CC 9mm but it's looking like it's going to be the P07 first, then I'll probably get an Arex afterwards just because worst case scenario I know I can trust the CZ, but still. I'm also considering a P01 and the Rami if I could ever find one. I mainly just want a DA/SA pistol built for duty work and clearly meant to last.

It's more about just agonizing over which one I buy first. Ever since I got my little CZ 82 I've had a serious fascination with CZ pistols and have always wanted a modern one.

>>33923985
The hammer touching the rear sights? That's some terrible fucking design...

>>33925479
funny, I have a 17 rounder in my Pre B.

if you do get them, make sure you replace all the springs, factory cz springs don't have the greatest reputation as is, and who knows what those guns have been through.
Also check the slide stop for any extreme wear, cz slide stops take a lot of abuse through design and people who shoot tons for competition usually comment on the slide stop snapping.
Also get either Cajun Gun Work's firing pin retaining pin or CZCustom's solid retaining pin. The factory double roll retaining pin gets beat the fuck up.

Other than that, make sure the rails on the frame isn't beat to utter shit from someone feeding it +P and not lubricating properly.

>>33926120
unless he's got them installed wrong, it's just a perspective thing, there's room between them.

>>33926120
>>33927384
looks like the factory ring hammer and a hanging rear sight. Aftermarket ring or race hammers have major clearance between the two.

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>>33924179

>>33928669
Can you say sexy?

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My SP-01 Orange Custom

>>33924613
I prefer my compact to a fs service pistol

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>>33930294

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>>33930294
>>33930350
Got rid of the factory checkering on the front and back of the grip.

which compact should I get? (excluding the cz custom and urban grey ones)

http://cz-usa.com/product-category/handguns/75-compact-series/

>>33922894
Your tie looks 20 years out of style.

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>>33923985
>>33924045
>>33924650
>>33924728
>>33928669
>>33928791
>>33930294
>>33930350

>muh dick

>>33924241
How do you like the beretta?

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My shadow was so good, I decided to pick up a P09 from Cajun Gun Works to go with it.

It'll be here in just a couple days !

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>>33930407
>excluding the cz custom
Their Protek series are without a doubt one of, if no the, best CC guns money can buy.

Anyone have experience with the Rami? Thinking of replacing my Glock 30s with it. What's a good price to buy one at?

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Muh baby

>>33930516
I find it very fat in comparison to other pistols of that size.

Also I've heard of issues of it jamming. Aka the "Jami"

>>33930516
Dont pay more than 620 out the door.

>>33930432
was that supposed to be an insult?

>>33930521
And I jizzed in my pants!

>>33930527
Ive put almost 3k rounds through mine and not only have i never heard of any reliability issues, but the only malfunction ive ever had was due to a 20$ 32 round magazine that doesn't seem to like brass.

>>33930535
More of a criticism but you can take it however you want.

>>33930554
I'll take it as a come on. Hey baby! What's hanging?

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I got a CZ or two.

>>33930602
What's a cat's favorite food?

>>33930527
Thanks
>>33930530
The issue is that I've never seen one in any gun shop. All the ones I find new online are overpriced plus my FFL charges $40 on top of that. Instead of paying $620 it would be more like $750

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>>33930629
Chinese.

>>33930675
A Mauser.

>>33922623
I hear CZ is making a famas

Anyone got info?

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pre-b is best b

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Do Vz.58s count? don't care, posting a couple pics anyway

>>33930799
>Switching slides
Why you do this anon?

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>>33930860

>>33930860
I did say it was a Cz thread.

>>33930732
GIGN chose CZ rifle if you meant that.

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>>33930866
because I can

does anyone know if the tanfoglio and eaa witness clones are as good as the cz ones?

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>>33930701
That's cannibalism.

>>33930889
I remember you, I don't remember if that configuration actually cycles however.

>>33930949
they all work actually

however CZ increased the thickness of the ejector with the 75Bs

so I cannot put the pre-b and original 75 on my new frames and vice versa without modifying the ejector width

sliderail dimensions are identical on all 75s though

(besides the new Shadow 2, which is a piece of shit special snowflake)

>>33930900
Lel czechd those dubs.

Living in Colorado, 15rd limit, CZ-75B is 16 rounds

I hate the fucking Californians that come over from their commie shit hole and vote for the same laws that ruin their commie shit hole

Canuck here, I was seriously looking at a 75B Ω till I found some sites selling the 85 Combat model.
Anyone recommend it?

>>33931129
why not get a 97?

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Help a fellow anon interested in buying his first CZ pistol. Thinking of getting the Urban Grey SP-01 Tactical in 9mm, but wanted input on holster options. I like the look of the Alex and Ryan Designs kydex holsters, but wanted to know if any of you had experience with them. Nearly $100 dollars and close to a months wait time is alot for a holster, even though this gun would be worth it.
Also,nwvwr carried a full size, all metal gun before(cc a Glock 17, but wanted some diversity hence hammer fired full metal CZ) and I was wondering what it's like to carry one. I'll get a good holster for it, and I currently use a Tuff Products 1.5" gun belt, so I should be good to go right?
Thanks in advance

>>33931129
.....you know there are 15 round magazines right?

>>33931249
>classic waffle grips
Nice
>decocker
Gross, at least it's a decocker only.

>>33931221
People who bitch about carrying full size guns are pussies who can't lift. This coming from a very averagely built manlet. Can't saything on your desired holster options. My only experience is a Falco Vertical Shoulder holster, an Ayy LMAO IWBholster and Bladetech's offset competion holster. All of which are great holsters for me.

>>33931595
Not concerned with weight, I just don't want the holster/gun to wobble on my hip when carrying it. Happened with my Glock when I carried it while waiting on my TP belt to arrive.

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>>33930978
never understood why CZ wasn't as friendly to slide changes as Tanfoglio

>>33924080
I actually tried to fuck up my Canik S-120 (CZ-75 clone) and C-100 (CZ compact clone) faster than i could fuck up my CZ-75b and I couldn't. 2 straight weeks of putting 200 rounds of Tula steelcased through both guns (no cleaning until the 2 weeks was up) and the Caniks didn't hiccup a single time, where I had multiple FTF and FTE from the CZ after day 8. Maybe it was a shitty CZ, or maybe... just maybe... the Turks actually put out a decent product.

Be wary of those promag 30-rounders, though. They work fine in full-size CZs but I'm the compacts, it can be finicky.

>>33930602
ZB not CZ :^)

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>>33931757
>Československá Zbrojovka
:3

I really like the look of CZ 75s like a weird mix of a hi-power with the flat top of a glock.

>>33931816
Czs don't have flat tops? Unless your talking about the P series?

>>33931718
they aren't unfriendly

it's just people don't know about the possibilities

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>>33931213
Good recomendation the 97 is a perfect choice for califags

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how's this for baby's first pistol? be gentile.

>>33932128
Would've gone with a .22lr, but a CZ isn't a bad choice for a first, especially a PO7. Carried one as a duty gun when I worked for Brinks, smooth shooter, comfortable in the hand, and is generally reliable when you need it. Just remember to practice with it.

You did good, m8000.

>>33930521
I just picked one of these up this week. I'm antsy for the sun to come out so I can hit the pistol range.

>ordered the half-checkered CZ Custom grips
>more brown than red like the ones I have for my SP-01
>imokaywiththis

In a related story, I was waiting on my background check, one of the gun counter monkeys was going around asking the other monkeys to tell him what was wrong with the pistol he had. The milling on the rear dovetail was so poor the rear sight was canted. They had a good laugh and remarked "It's a Canik, what do you expect?"

>"That's why you don't buy Turkish."

>>33931751
Funfact: the Canik CZ clones only look like CZ75s. The trigger and firing pin block are cloned off of Tanfoglio, just like Canik's direct clone of Tanfoglio and Jericho.

I figure this is as good a thread as any to ask.
Southpaw, so remember that.
I got my CZ today and put a couple hundred rounds through it.
I am consistently putting shots either to the east or south-east of where I am aiming.
How to fix?

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>>33932510
this is the most shit answer possible but: adjust sights?

>>33932510
Possibly finger placement on trigger?
Someone post pic of target with segments labeled for what the shooter is doing wrong. I don't have it.

>>33932667
This is for righties, but just flip it and it's a lefty target

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>>33932789
Fug forgot pic

>>33932180
fug man i haven't bought it, yet... should i go wit a p07 or rami? how simple are these to operate? i don't want anything fancy. just a nice cc i can learn with.

>>33932128
I carry one. I like it over every other poly gun I've ever used.

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Why does the PCR get so overshadowed?

>>33932957
my cousin just bought a pcr and loves it to death

>>33932906
p07 or rami what do? srs i am just gonna buy both they are both to damn nice

>>33932993
What do you want it for? I got my P-07 as both a full sidearm and a carry. Mainly because the P-07 will take P-09 19 round mags.

>>33932884
>how simple are these to operate?
it's a browning action based pistol. they all operate the same way.

ramis are a pain in the ass to find anyway, i'm not sure if they're actually OOP or just make runs so small that kel-tec laughs

Bought a p01 awhile back for $550. It came with calicucked 10 rd mags. I see some c markings here or there does this mean there is something inherently flawed to fit cali regs? Wish i lurked these tjreads more when i got it but at the time i knew i wanted a cz and this one just felt right.

I am having a hard time getting more than 16 rounds into my SP-01's mags.

They are brand new, and when I hit 16 it's like pressing up against a brickwall. I can barely make the round budge, and the bullets just slip around on top of each other when I try to press the other round into place.

I've never had this problem before with other pistols, and it is seriously making me consider buying a loader to get over this hump.

>>33933045
>consider buying a loader
just suck up the $30some and get the uplula, that's what i did. no point in destroying your thumbs just preparing to shoot.

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>>33933031
welp p07 is banned in california so i am cucked. the only dude that is selling cz's near me has a compact 75 for 550 brand new which is pretty good deal i guess esp. in california. question: when it comes to cz's or pistols in general, how do i find out if their magazines are capable of being modular? meaning a sig's mag with fit in a cz as long as it is 9mmP. sorry for being a cali-cucked noob.

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muh cz

>>33922894
Take your trip off all you want, we still know it's you

>>33933181
>meaning a sig's mag with fit in a cz as long as it is 9mmP.
no no no.
it takes cz75 series mags (for you the 10rd ones obv), that's it. that's pretty much true of any gun except some carbines that are deliberately built to take popular mags (glock, beretta).

unfortunately cz75 mags (particularly the factory ones) are fairly expensive ($35-40), but the 3rd party ones come to like $23 i think and are reasonably well made

>>33933070

It really wasn't a money issue, it's a "should this be happening? Why is this happening?"

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My $350 gunshow find

>>33933275
heavy spring, i guess. i've never had that much trouble with double stacks either but here we are

>>33930799
Agreed

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>>33933301

>>33933244
thanks bro you are really nice i learned alot. i suppose my options are pretty shot in commifornia.

>>33933238
I mean yeah it's me, but I just don't give a fuck enough to trip anymore. This place kind of sucks the fucks to give out of you.

>>33933346
it's pretty much the officials or the mec-gar ones. i checked, looks like they offer the latter in the 10rd capacity for about $22.

>>33933301
fuck my life

>>33933402
>>33933402

This.

Buy the Mec-gar's though. They are just as overbuilt, but they give you an extra round.

>>33933423
here you go anon. You can probably get it for under $400 after shipping and transfer.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/645307858

>>33933423
It was at a LGS's used gun table. Had a $500 tag on it, but it was beat up and had ugly grips, and the employees were dumb and didn't know how to break down a CZ for me to see the guts. Long story short I convinced them it was in rough shape but I'd give them $350 because I really wanted a CZ, and they took it. Just had to order the black grips and clean it up.

What >>33933445 said. They're not too hard to find around $400, and worth every penny

>>33933445
how does this work if you dont have ffl? you ship to a ffl dealer? wont there be more fees?

>>33933629
>be more fees?
it's like $15 ffs

>>33930635
750 is just not worth it. Take a vacation to south florida and try to find one while you enjoy the area. My side is flooded with czs. Walked into a store and bought my rami without even calling to see if they had it.

>>33933644
>normies go out to buy firearms
>you can buy em online; cheaper too!
shieeet

>>33933445
this is the cali-cuck again. can i buy a cz off gunbroker and have em ship to a dealer in CA?

>>33933797
so long as it's a cali-legal gun. i'm told FFL fees are worse there but don't know from experience

>>33931751
Good to know about the promag. I thought it was hot trash but im using it in a rami lol

>>33933622
>dont know how to break down a cz
>work for gun store

its the first gun ive ever owned i learned how to in literally 10 secs

>>33933818
i checked not too bad like +3.4% more to be precise

>>33933878
double check any listing though because i know some will specifically not ship to CA, possibly due to it being more of a pain in the ass for them

>>33932957
It doesnt. I cant stop hearing about it and my buddy has one.

>>33933045
Dremel down the legs on the follower. About a quarter inch should do.

>>33922623
I for the life of me, can't find a proper duty holster for the full size Cz. Any tips?

>>33933887
will do!

>>33934037

A lot of places that make holsters out of Kydex will make a full size CZ - just gotta ask for it. Or custom order a leather one. Your choice.

>>33933210
Fucking beautiful gun m8
Also decocker a best, safety a shit

>>33934306
Decocker pig disgusting, cock lock is best cock

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>>33934417
m8 I got my rabbi on speed dial, I'll decock you right now

>>33934143
I should clarify, a lvl II or III retention holster.

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>>33933841
I know dude. Most gun store employees don't know shit. It was my first CZ I had ever held and I was able to break it down as soon as I asked to try.

Pic related, how it looked

Got my SP-01 today.

I am trying to find out what mods are suggested.

I am definitely feeling a lower trigger pull after putting 200 rounds through it.

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>>33934483
Your cashier was a house elf?

>>33934555
I don't remember, do they come with night sights?

>>33924241

I have a RAMI with a decocker and the trigger is garbage. Wish I would have gotten one with a safety.

>>33934754

Yes.

>>33934769
Cant believe you found one. I got mine with a safety and swapped out the trigger for an sao trigger. You unfortunately don't have that option.

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Can you guys help me? Im in the market for my first handgun. Would the cz P0-7, P0-9 or sp-01 be good first picks, and how do they compare to a glock 19 or m9 Beretta

>>33935459
>Would the cz P0-7, P0-9 or sp-01 be good first picks, and how do they compare to a glock 19 or m9 Beretta
All are superior to the Glockamole and the Spaghetti gun.

>>33935646
what does /k/ exactly have against the glocks? I see a lot of hate for them but not many reasons why

>>33935459

P-09 and P-07 are polymer partially, and both are good. The SP-01 is fully metal, and also good. Since it's your first gun, you won't notice any real sort of difference in performance between the three. Just handling. The SP-01 is significantly heavier than the other two, and it feels that way. You literally can feel the: 'Fuck off' in it when you hold it and point it at something. I'd go with a P-09 since it's your first gun, or if you really want a full metal gun - go for the SP-01. Maybe see if a local range has either you can try out and compare. Most of the places around me have a P-09. On the whole there really isn't that much mechanically different from them (in how you shoot them, utilize them, disassemble them, clean them. etc.) They all come with two mags and night sights. So it's up to you, really. You're going to spend more on ammo pretty quickly once you get addicted to shooting them.

>>33935459
>SP-01
>Beretta 92
The CZ feels slimmer in the hand. As a pistol n00b, that's what you'll notice first.

CZ likes to put stiff recoil springs in their SP-01s and P-01s. If you don't have good gripping fundamentals or are just weak, it'll snap your sights down when it cycles. I don't remember that being an issue with the Beretta.

>>33936323

Also this.

The activation pressure on an SP-01 is in double-action is something like 14 or 16 pounds.

>>33935781
Most people don't care for their ergonomics, lots of plastic parts, and glocknade memes.

Also some people like myself really don't care for striker fired pistols and the "safety" features that they come with.

Personally I actually really liked the glock 19 in my hand, but I wear a size 8 in gloves and have small hands. I told the store employee if he could find me one with a manual safety I'm sold but since they don't come with that I passed. That, and the fact that a P07 is a $100 cheaper out the door, kind of made me question why I would get a glock in the first place. With that extra cash I can get a couple more CZ mags, and I was gonna throw down a good amount of cash on a custom kydex holster anyways, so it's not like I would've saved anything there on the glock.

Plus DA/SA feels better, CZ's have better ergos, a proven track record, and overall everything I've read says the CZ is much nicer in the hand while shooting. I would demo them at a range, but there is nothing nearby to do that with, so I have to go off of gun reviews online sadly.

>>33935459
I'm in this boat as well, and I'm a Califag so my handgun options are limited.

Are current-production CZ-75s any good? They kind of appeal to my inner fedora, and any extra weight doesn't really matter since the gun will just be a range toy.

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>>33931718

>>33936413

>my inner fedora

What does this even mean?

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>>33931841

They exist but you have to drop some coin.

>>33936432
It's a common term around here, but kind of hard to explain.

I guess it's that pseudo-nostalgic part of some of us that likes things because they're obsolete and/or obscure, even when they're objectively worse than newer options. The 75 appeals in the same way that using a Zippo instead of a Bic or wearing a mechanical wristwatch instead of checking the time on your smartphone or driving a classic Alfa-Romeo instead of a new Honda does. The most extreme sufferers of this kind of affliction are known to wear fedoras, hence the name.

>>33936668

You mean like a classic CZ-75? I guess, but like it's no worse than a Hi-Power (it's kind of better, technically), and the newer CZ-75 models are quite literally some of the best handguns on the market. There's a reason why pretty much everyone who does competition shooting uses a Shadow, Czechmate, or some variant thereof.

>>33932510
Demagnetize bullets then place the target directly northwest of your location. Be sure to base your directions off of magnetic north, and invert these directions for Southern Hemisphere.

>>33936915
kek

should i get a cz 75b or a compact? is the extra barrel length on the 75b worth it?

>>33923907
Sonny Crockett did it, quit being a bitch.