$415 USP 40 trade ins

>>33920510
Gotta love it when you work for an agency that issues you .40. I got like 2000 rounds holding up my coffee table.

>>33920566
Was this practice ammo? How did this work out? Sorta curious on how agencies distribute ammo to officers

>>33920593
Yes.

>>33920566
Why not just go shoot them? Are you that much of a pussy that you wont shoot free ammo because it has too much snap.

>>33920510

How to get? I won't my turn my nose up at a lightly used USP, but I've never done an FFL before.

If this was the 9mm variant I'd be all fucking over this.

>>33920652
Email or call them. Buying a gun online is easy as fuck. Just look around for a local FFL dealer that won't gouge your ass on a transfer fee.

>>33920997

So I just ask a LGS if they will do a transfer for me? That's it?

>>33921051
Find a well priced one and it's customary to ask or let them know in advance that you're interested in doing it.

>>33920983
If it was 9mm, it wouldn't be 400 dollars.

>>33920510

I want a USP to round out my pistol collection.

Pros:
> USP
> Older
> Cheap
> Original USP was made to be .40
> Cheap mags with this deal
> It's a USP

Cons:
> .40

>>33921051
Call a couple and see what their rates are. When you find the right one tell them you're going to buy a gun online and ask if they would transfer it for you. Then exchange details. My LGS calls me when it arrives not sure how yours will go.

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Also, the price for Varient 1 is 395 according to their homepage.

>>33921061
Convert it to 357sig.

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give me 1 reason why I shouldn't buy this right now boys

>inb4 le hurr .40

i dont care this is 400 dollars for a fucking USP

>>33921170
There is none. Get dat USP boi

>>33921061
> Original USP was made to be .40
What does that mean? do they handle the snap better or what?

>>33921773
Their turbo-springs and heavy-despite-plasticness are for the fuddy caliber

>>33921773
Besides the mk.23, the usp in 40 cal was the first to come out in a standard configuration. Mix that into the double spring and durable design it is a perfect fit for 40 cal.
Now if they would only make an usp in 10mm.

>>33921170
Or you could get the sig p226 in 40 cal for 445. That looks pretty cool too.

>>33921773
It means it's the GOAT .40.

>>33921849
Yeah but the sig isn't from a video game.

>>33921839
you can retrofit it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh16zi55G0

>>33921773

It was designed first as a .40 and then they also made 9mm and .45 afterward.

From a collection standpoint, .40 would be reasonably correct since it was the original intent.

>>33921061
Remind me: what's the issue with .40 again?

>>33922369
.40 is a cut down 10mm because fbi agents handle recoil like girls

>>33922369

Honestly?
I try to limit the number of different calibers I need to keep stocked and I don't have anything in .40 currently.

Otherwise:
> Memes
> Agencies dropping it like sacks of concrete (but this is why we have cheap trade ins)

>>33922369

Biggest complaints are that it's mediocre.

It isn't as easy to shoot as 9mm, and it isn't as big as fuddy-fye. This is why people point say "lol short & wimpy" while dancing around with their non-existent 10mm pistols. If you want to buy a Glock be my guest, or spend a shitload on a modded 1911. Either way, the 10mm is fucked because of the guns that it can be used in are scarce, expensive, or bad. Meanwhile the .40 has guns that were designed for it, but it still doesn't perform as well as a gun chambered for 10mm technically can.

But if you put your own gun to my head and told me to pick between a Glock chambered in 10mm and a USP in .40, I am going to pick the USP.

>>33922369
Lower capacity than 9mm, nothing really better that a good JHP 9mm can do, and has harsher (not much but it's noticeable) recoil than 9mm. Honestly it has not real advantage over getting a 9mm.

It's not a bad round, just a pointless one.

>>33922369
>Remind me: what's the issue with .40 again?

Memes from a shitty introduction.

Think 45 ACP in a 9mm frame:
A lot of early .40 were just repurposed 9mm designs, resulting in everything from glocknades to case failures to really shitty recoil.

40 recoil is fine if in a gun designed for it (EG dual recoil springs and added weight)
40 performance is between standard 45 ACP options and the highest 9mm options
40 capacity is negligibly reduced

Nothing is technically wrong. It's a modern standard as a redesign of 9mm +P, or as a more compact 45 without losing much performance, whichever way you want to look at it.

FBI, Police, etc ditched 40 S&W for the same reason they don't issue 45 ACP. 9mm is basically the biggest thing the average newhire can handle without real practice.

If they got enough women and old ladies, they'd switch from 9mm to 380 ACP.

>>33921170
There are good deals everywhere on .40s pistols lately. The deal in OP isn't bad at all, but it's not anything like "whoa buy now buy now"

>>33922369
There is nothing wrong with .40s&w at all, it just falling out of favor as of late, and fags here think that means way more than it does. Go to any real gun forum, you won't see anywhere near the hate for 40 you see here.

>>33920640
They give me a lot more ammo than I use for practice.

Also, snappy?

>projecting this much

Now that's a snap.

>>33920510
GET FAMAS

>>33923272
It's because people on gun forums own and use firearms.

People can only be medically incapacitated 2 ways with slug-chuckers (((boolits))).

A brain stem hit - the only instant and 100% guaranteed off switch.

The other way is blood loss. Blood loss via drop in blood pressure is a time-based situation with boolit wounds from handguns, even with a completely perforated heart a human being can physically function up to around 8 seconds - and that's assuming a perfect high thoracic cavity strike - gun fights are very imperfect, you might want to plan on carving out significantly more tissue.

The more tissue you crush and remove the faster blood is lost. More kinetic energy imparts more trauma, generates bigger permanent crush cavities, shatters more bones and drives pieces of those bones further with more energy, lacerating and causing more hemorrhaging.

.40 is wily and recognized as high energy, laws of physics dictate equal and opposite reactions. If your rounds dump more trauma imparting, tissue crushing kinetic energy into the target it's perfectly reasonable to expect more fight from the gun in return.

Typically, for an advanced level shooter (someone at the 60%-75% mark) .40 S&W adds about ~.10-.15 seconds to splits which is proportionally almost exactly how much more energy they dump in to the target than 9x19 (~50% more) - In my opinion it's a side-grade, a fair trade, whatever you want to call it. The numbers actually skew in favor of the .40S&W but as stated I'm also assuming an advanced level of shooting from the operator so there is discrepancy.

>>33920566
Welfare whore

>>33923619
cont.

In the 90's and early 2000's recording and compiling volumes of anecdotal, individual shootings and their results was a very popular metric. During this time the .40S&W outperformed every other duty caliber in terms of one shot stops.

Yeah, we know now a days that this is not good science, doesn't change the fact that a fuckload of aggressors have been put down right then right there with a single .40S&W

All this said,40 is a complete side grade, you literally exchange the almost exact proportional amount of speed for almost the exact proportional gain in tissue crushing. I'm not saying it's better than 9x19, I'm just really fucking tired of the echo chamber regurgitated one liners tossed around the web like gospel, all because some bureaucratic bean counters at the FBI needed to justify cutting ammo cost and training.

Also don't hold your breath on the complete flushing of 40.

The ice we are on is so thin is will take one high profile incident of an anecdotal nature where someone survives a strike from the current hotness (A La Miami FBI shootout) and we will go back around the merry-go-round of higher energy, more powerful ballistic reasoning.

>>33923520
best comment all year on 4chin

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>>33923633

God fucking dammit. I'm poor as a motherfucker right now and I'm surrounded by all these gun deals that I can't take advantage of without seriously dipping into money I'm saving for more responsible things (a car, a better job, the future)

I'm seriously tempted by this one though. I grew up playing the Rainbow Six games and always wanted to own one of these........but I think I'm going to pass. I need a car so I can get a better job so I can one day not give a fuck about buying a USP at full price.

That being said if I ever come across police trade in Walther P99s or just a Walther P99 for a reasonable price I'm going to say fuck it and just do it. That was my favorite vidya gun growing up.

>>33921773
It shoots like a full size 9mm

>>33923633
Overused pasta but I hope the next Miami Shootout, taking place in a post-.40 society, will lead to the ascendence of .355SIG and 10mm.

>>33923619
>>33923633
Even obliquely referring to marshall sannow OSS stats does more to discredit an argument than add merit IMHO.

Hey, water boy! .45 is betterrrrrrr!

>>33923999
IKR, what im really hoping for is comped duty guns running .357 super sig or 9x25 dillon using next gen bullet tech to offer massive expansion while still allowing for ideal penetration

>>33924061
>Dillon
I'm nutting just thinking about it. The ultimate anti-fudd meme cartridge -- 10mm necked down to 9mm. Our ancap McMercs will effortlessly shred entire armies of progressive weaklings as they're far too weak to handle .40, let alone 9x25, while the McMercs only have to hold up car doors and they'll never be harmed.

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>>33922400
>Agencies dropping it like sacks of concrete
Buy! Buy! Buy!

Blue book value for USP 40 is:
835 for 100%
725 for 98%
600 for 95%
500 for 90%
450 for 80%
400 for 70%
350 for 60%

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>>33920510
>http://summitgunbroker.com/usp-v1-and-2.html
shit op! just scared the hell outta me!!!
I just sent out a money order for a usp 40 last monday to colorado and the description was close to the url's as well as the supposive serial number!
mine should be comming with two different holsters and a box of hp ammo
bought mine for 420$ shipped!

>>33925859
That's a steep curve.

>>33926492
Not really, desu.
For comparison:
P226 Combat
1095 for 100%
935 for 98%
825 for 95%
700 for 90%
600 for 80%
500 for 70%
400 for 60%

>>33921061

I bought a trade in police USP in 40 a few years ago.

Do it.

It is really a great gun. Soft shooting and accurate as hell.