Honest opinion on the FN P90?

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It's total bullshit. You can drop from upper to lower B tunnels on dust2 and just spray and take out an entire team.

Oh shit, i forgot this was /k/ not /v/.
Oh well.

>>33918289
10/10 would shoot Jaffa with on P3X-789.

>>33918289
It's a cool gun, but pointless unless you have a steady supply of 5.7 or have access to AP rounds. There are other bullpups available that make more sense if you want 16" barrel for a non-NFA gun. If you plan on SBRing it, there are a lot of things to compete with it.

I'd still rather have 30 rounds of 5.56 over 50 rounds of 5.7 desu.

That said, I still think it's a neat gun that would be a lot of fun to shoot, especially SBR'd.

Decent, but the design is nearly 30 years old and needs a complete do-over. I refuse to believe that the rail on the P90T is the lowest HOB they can pull off, and FN should do a collab with a decent optics company to offer an integrated red dot option that isn't shit. The foregrip should probably go too, replaced with a rail or keymod section an a conventional trigger guard.

>>33918305
Well there you go. Better head to the right board.

I don't know anon, and judging by no one answering you in six minutes, you should probably google for failures or issues, torture tests ammo tests, magazine producers, parts kits and even availability of parts.

Are they cool guns? Sure.
Are they a meme? Sure.
Should that; or anyone on /k/s opinion effect you? No.

Should have asked in a QTDDTOT thread.

I think PDWs are so ridiculously a specific purpose that they're not really all that good.

>>33918369
Pretty much this. Unless you're kicking in doors for a living or a member of the Secret Service or other body guard protecting a high profile client in and out of cars and wanting to remain discreet, PDW's make little sense.

Unless you wanted a small backpack gun for SHTF. I guess I could see that, but there are still better options.

>>33918400
>>33918369
>bill of wants
>bill of needs
hmm no those aren't right...

>>33918421
>Ask opinions on thing
>Get told its shit
>Rambles on about rights as if that makes it not shit
?

>>33918461
What? I'm not even involved in this conversation, I just thought it was funny that other peoples opinions involved 'you only need it if-' and 'you should only get it if-'.
Last time I check if someone wanted to get drunk as fuck they can do that. Or if they want to eat a really shitty meal and have bowel problems tomorrow, they can do it. Or if some retard wants to buy a PDW that shoots and looks like a snowflake, they can do it.

Neither of the posts had any content besides 'I dont think so because you're not secret service' which is totally fucking irrelevant...

Again, I'm not anyone who was involved in the conversation; just thought it was funny that suddenly you have to be a body guard or something to warrant buying something you enjoy using.

>rambles
That wasn't a ramble; this post was a ramble.

>>33918519
And to follow that
>>33918400
> Unless you're kicking in doors for a living or a member of the Secret Service or other body guard protecting a high profile client in and out of cars and wanting to remain discreet, PDW's make little sense.
Yeah unless you live in a house, want a truck gun, or any situation where you'd want a compact and easy to handle, low recoil essentially-sbr... Oh wait, why the fuck would you not want one?

>>33918534
Because you can do that with an SMG without perforating grandma's ashes and if "accidnetally" breaking the ash jar is what you want to do then you can get a normal SBR rifle.

>>33918545
>smg
>pdw
>sbr
Are you retarted. Please tell me the difference between an 'smg' and pdw, and an sbr in a pistol caliber.

>>33918300
back in the source days i used to do that with shotguns. then i'd peak out of the staircase, take a shot, move down and chamber another shell, then repeat.

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meme gun for memesters

>>33918289
>Ergonomic as fuck
>50 round magazine
>Very low recoil
>Bullet isn't particularly deadly

Eh, it'd be better if it was automatic. Why didn't they just make it fully automatic?

>>33918289
One hell of a shotgun

>>33918421
>>33918519

No one mentioned restricting your rights to owning one, we just said they're pointless outside of a very specific role.

>>33918534
Because I'd rather have a SBR'd AR or mk18

>>33918594
>>Ergonomic as fuck
If you have carpal tunnel, maybe.

>>33918765
>id rather have an sbr ar or a different sbr ar
I'm sure you're a hit at parties...
>>33918758
But that is what you were saying.
>I think PDWs are so ridiculously a specific purpose that they're not really all that good.
Besides being compact and being easily controllable... Which fills many rolls
>Unless you're kicking in doors for a living or a member of the Secret Service or other body guard
See >>33918534 if you're using for a home defense weapon or truck gun it's ideal.

God i fucking hate day/k/are.

>muh truck gun
Can't this be anything, though?
You retard hicks keep using this to deflect any argument once you realize how useless a gun is in any other role.

>>33918834
A truck gun refers to something you can essentially leave under the seat of your car mean it's compact, reliable meaning it's not going to rust or need constant maintenance, and easy to feed because it is your go-to firearm.

But if you're a newfag and don't understand context I guess it could come off as some redneck meme to you.

And way to not directly engage any post; hoping your shitty worthless opinion just kind of slips by enough to validate your being here.

Welcome to /k/, now git.

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>>33918834
>pdw/sbr in pistol carbine/'smg'
>any engagement under 150m
Pick two.
A smaller lighter weight firearm that performs just as well will win in every situation. You don't have to be a fucking rocket surgeon to understand this.

>>33918869
Yeah, I'll leave an expensive and polymer gun under the seat of my car. That will definitely turn out fine.

>And way to not directly engage any post
You wanted me to link every single faggot that mentions "truck gun"?

>>33918807
No one is saying don't fucking buy one if that's what you really want. We're saying there are better options except for very specific situations you fucking numb nuts.

Home defense or a truck gun are not exemplary roles for a PDW like the P90.

>>33918807
>>33918869
Holy shit, you actually are retarded and noguns

>>33918889
>expensive
Poorfag detected
>polymer
So you dont have to worry about the wood being dinged up? you realize the barrel and components are metal, right? What even does this mean.

Please reread >>33918869
As it fairly defines a 'truck gun'. Something you keep in your car and can forget about; but then ready and use without issue. The p90 is a fairly reliable gun with not a lot of hickups.

If you want to act like a retard and say shit without any base or information at all you can head on back to some /r/ to shitpost with the rest of the COD fags.

>>33918907
>>33918896
>no ones saying dont buy one!
>except the people that are saying dont buy one!
Nice anon.
Give me one good reason why a pdw or sbr in a pistol caliber cant be a good home defense or truck gun. Sans you retards spotting a deer from your car and taking a shot after parking on the median.

5.7 fags are the shittiest creature to roam the earth.

They'll shill and scream until you buy their craptastic guns out of pity for their broken hopes and dreams.

Nevermind that the P90's magazines are prone to breakage or that rounds get caught in the ejection chute, or even that you'll overpenetrate with your piddly little icepick round.
Just buy one because reasons! It's a TRUCK GUN guys! Just buy one and step all over it; what, are you POOR?

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>>33918930
>Give me one good reason why a pdw or sbr in a pistol caliber cant be a good home defense or truck gun
Because there are better tools for the job

>>33918930
>Give me one good reason why a pdw or sbr in a pistol caliber cant be a good home defense or truck gun.
Because there are better tools for the job.

>>33918946
This thread isnt even about the p90 or 5.7 anymore... I do like that you actually put content in your post talking about magazines... but then you went off about truck guns and poor and blah blah blah...
Nice post anon. Really nice.

>>33918954
>>33918961
What is a better tool for the job that is lightweight, compact, has easily dealt with recoil and takes a cheap pistol caliber. This isn't even a discussion about the p90 you retards. If you read the thread this is now a sbr/pdw/'smg' thread. Try to keep up.

>>33918961
>>33918954
Samefag

Name some of those better tools that have the same amount of rounds, and same capability.

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>>33918975
>11:51:52
>11:52:37
>samefag

Also, just about anything chambered in an intermediate caliber

>>33918971
>>33918975
>5.56 recoils too much
>30 rounds isn't enough
>Pretending .300 blk isn't a thing

>>33918930
>no ones saying dont buy one!
>except the people that are saying dont buy one!
But nobody is telling you not to buy them, little autist, they're just telling you that PS90s are shit. What you do with your money is your business, however even if you buy a thousand shit guns, they'll still be shit guns. IDK why you made this thread, you ask opinions on something and when you dont hear the opinions you want to hear you sperg out.

>>33918289
Perfect for it's intended role, first it got fucked by Germs throwing temper tantrums over "muh Heckler & Cock", second threat of soviet paratroopers is none existant today.

>>33919017
Reread the thread.
>>33919013
>5.56 isnt easier to handle than most pistol calibers
>.300meme
wow dude get fucking real. And '30 rounds isnt enough'? you're talking like a gungrabber now.

Good game retards you showed your true colors.

>>33919021
>Perfect for it's intended role
yeah it's great for penetrating armor and the perp and the walls of the five buildings behind it with no terminal effects

>>33919017
Nah I have to agree with that non. No evidence or actual experience, just people saying
>pdws are stoopid
And that's not really an argument..

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>>33919039
>pistol rounds overpenetrate more than rifle rounds!
>im not retarded
pick one.

>>33919038
Holy shit, calm your 'tism. No one is talking about restricting your magazine capacity. But when someone demands that 50 rounds be matched for the PS90 by it's competition as criteria for being a better defensive weapon... It's ridiculous that suggest that 30 rounds of 5.56 or .300 blk isn't enough for a realistic self denfense scenario, especially since you can get 40 and 60 round magazines if you really wanted.

Besides, if you're going to call .300 blk a meme round then you might as well say that for all of the PCC calibers that are worth a damn like 10mm, .357 Sig, 5.7, etc..

>>33919059
Except everyone is saying that they're nowhere near optimal when there are so many SBRs in intermediate rifle cartridges available.

>>33918326
MLOK, key mod a shit

>>33918289

Saved our asses plenty of times, god-damned aliens should've known better than to fuck with SG

>>33919092
wow anon I don't even know what to say to this post. You may have called me autistic but I'm smiling knowing you're literally retarded. Good work.

>>33919110
>knowing you're literally retarded
Says the anon sperging about using a PDW as a HD/Truck gun

>>33919121
What is wrong with that again? You know a pdw can be in a rifle caliber, right?

What are you even trying to say lmao

PDWs are fine but the p90 is a meme gun that costs $30 per mag to shoot. $50 per mag for ss190. It really is a weapon for counter terrorist groups. If you need a small shoulder weapon for your car an mpx or sbr should suffice. If you have a real hard on for the 5.7x28 round just get a fan 5.7 for a side arm.

>>33919154
So you're too poor to feed your guns? What the fuck anon.

>>33919148
>I'm just going to include SBRs into my definition of a PDW just to move the goal post

>>33919167
Post your P90

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>>33918289
Does a good job against Jaffa.
Need something a little bigger for Wraith.

>>33919177
wow good content and discussion.
>>33919182
This is about pdw/'smg'/sbrs in pistol calibers.... The closest thing I have is a folding ak but if I had a small compact rifle in a pistol caliber thats easier to handle why would I not use that...
What is so hard to understand here...

>>33918918
>>33918807
>>33918869
>projecting

>>33919274
projecting what lmao

>>33919267
>but if I had a small compact rifle in a pistol caliber thats easier to handle why would I not use that

Because you could have a small compact rifle in an intermediate rifle caliber that's just as easy to handle and more effective so why would you not use that?

>>33919267
>semi automatic
>easier to handle
No, the reason why pdw's and smg's excel in specific situations with pistol calibers is because of how controllable they remain in full auto and burst with a high rate of fire... Something that doesn't concern you if you aren't being paid to kick in doors or protect extremely high value clients for a living.

>>33919286
haha you newfags, go away kids. im Totally a veteran and smarter and not new like you losers lol

>>33919287
Anon you think 7.62x38 is just as easy to handle as 9mm?
>>33919336
I don't get it?

>>33919399
>7.62x38

>>33919422
>i have nothing to say so let me shit post
>>33919422
>>33919336
>>33919274
^Nice anon you got me I am trolled.

>>33919422
>I know, ill ignore the post and focus on the typo!
>HAHA ANON IS ON THE ROPES NOW, HOW CAN THEY RECOVER

>>33919313
>i have never shot guns the post
Tell me more anon. Please.

>implying you can accurately and quickly fire a rifle as fast as a pistol with brace
Tell me more about how you have no idea what the fuck you're spouting...

Ill make it really simple for you. Pistol rounds go less bang than rifle rounds, so theyre easier to control and fire a follow up shot. But don't let me stop you, go on, tell me about how a select fire rifle is more controllable than a select fire pistol caliber firearm.... Go on.

Makes the Krauts mad

>>33919313
are you a retard?

>>33919488
>i have nothing to say so let me shit post
Please tell me more about PDWs that fire the 7.62x38r

>>33919212
mah nigga

>>33919835
lmao anon cmon... you're just pretending to be retarded, right?