Levergat General / Lever Action Thread

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>>33915758
I meant SRC, not SPL.

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>>33915761
The action feels great! Not rough like what the comments online say about Rossi. Also, NO SAFETIES!

>>33915758
>that phone
>the pingpong table
>the pool table
just how fucking old are you? Don't get me wrong, I'd hang out and listen to you talk about nam, but that's neither here nor there.

Anyway, I owned a 30-30, was a fun game. Was afraid it was hot so I sold it for a fifty buck profit. I wouldn't mind having a .22 levergat to load with subs with a fairly large can though. Outside of that, I cannot find a lever gun practical enough to justify by it's aesthetics alone.

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>>33915758
>buy a cast receiver with shitty finish for 350
>near week find a pre 64 for 290
I'm going to load as heavy bullets as I can and keep shooting until my shoulder or it breaks.

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>>33915854
I'm 21. I wanted the lever gun mainly for hunting. They are better in thick brush, which is exclusively where I hunt.

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Nice freedom stick, anon. I don't have one yet, but it'll be the next addition to my family. I fell in love with Big Horn Armory's levers in 500 S&W, but they are too pricey. I might just go with something in 45-70, but I'm also looking at the ones that load pistol rounds. I can't decide.

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>>33915870
>I'm 21
Bullshit, I'm going to need dick with timestamp to believe that, gramps.


Anyway, nothing wrong with hunting with a levergun. I'd do it if I owned one for a few choice animals. However, I'm assuming laws come into play though?

Whatchu' normally wear in the bush, whilst hunting? I opt for the short shorts because Rhodesian war was aesthetic as hell.

>>33915939
What law exclude anything above .30? Would be stupid enough that even the most antigun fudd would call bullshit.

>>33915939
No I'm seriously 21.

And I generally hunt in jeans, an orange hoodie and hat. Sometimes a coat too, depending on weather. Short shorts would be fucking miserable for whitetail season.

>>33915758
>From what research I've done, it can be anywhere from 75-90s; however the serial numbers seem useless and Rossi has been no help in providing any info.

Why the fuck would it matter? No one is going to be collecting Rossis, ever.

>>33915975
Because I post on 4chan and therefore at minimum have mildy autistic tenancies. I like to know everything about every gun I own. With the Rossi, the quality varies WIDELY. 1975-1988 are good, 1988-2000s shit; and 2000+ filled with shitty safeties and lawyer intrusions.

>>33915962
There are states that exclude anything but shotguns.

>>33915992
Sell it and buy a Chiappa. Or a Browning. Or a Miroku Winchester. All are better than a Rossi.

>>33915970
I assumed bush meant hot climate. As far as safety orange? c'mon man, that's really a big turn off.
>>33915962
Meant along the lines as far as gun choice for thick bush. I have no magazine cap limits on any game animal that's not restricted at the federal level.
>woe be the deer that stumbles across my machine gun nest.

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>>33915758
I inherited this from my grandpa. It is in .45. Some old fuck keepa trying to buy it from me for like $300 every time I take it to the range. It says Winchester on it.

What is it?

>>33916049
I don't know, but I'll give you 300 bucks for it.

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>>33916049
It's something that should always stay in the goddamn family anon. Grandpa's guns are the best guns.

>back on topic, pic related is my .357 lever action raifu

>>33916049
It's a new production Winchester 94 "Legacy" model.

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>>33916062
Well it is the first gun I shot when he was teaching me. I refuse to sell the first gun I shot.
>>33916082
Is that good? Do they have any notable problems?

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>>33915758
this here's a 1918 production Win 94 that I owned for about a week. The guy I traded it for was a good sport and took it back after I cleaned out the bore and found that it was fucked six ways to Sunday. Never trust old farmers to take care of their shit.

>>33916103
>Is that good? Do they have any notable problems?

Apart from people disliking what is typically thought of as a lawyer-mandated safety, they are perfectly fine guns. Winchester has never been know for making unreliable guns. I just wouldn't consider it much of an heirloom given that it was likely made in the last decade.

But given the fact that it seems to be quite rare (short mag tube, uncommon chambering, engraving indicates it may be a commemorative model), it would probably be considered an heirloom by the time you pass it on to your grandkids. Definitely worth keeping, and the fact that your grandfather gave it to you means it already has a story attached to it.

>>33916108
How much did you pay for it?

Would have been a fine project to rebarrel in improved Ackley

>>33916108
I paid nothing, traded an FNX 40, which was kind of a bad deal in retrospect.

>>33916154
>not 7-30 Waters

improve your effort

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>>33915758
>>33916108
This gun popped my lever cherry. I traded an AR for it and then ended up trading it for an O-PAP. I really wish I hadn't, because it was a '51 and in amazing shape.

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>>33915758
>>33916188
Eventually I traded that O-PAP for this guy, a Henry .44 mag that was a good bit of fun.

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>>33915758
>>33916264
Eventually I saw a deal for a .45-70 that I couldn't pass up, and he wanted a .44 mag. I'd been lusting after a .45-70 for a while, so I jumped on the deal as soon as I could. It was a great rifle, and a friend of mine made me some pretty warm loads to try through it. Shooting it was not always pleasant.

The other guy is a Henry .22. It was a fun little plinker. Sadly I had to get rid of the duo to pay for some car stuff. I'm hoping to find my way into a .45-70 again, that shit was cash.

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Took this pic last night with the handgun long gun combo thread.

1958 Model 1894 in .30-30 Found it in a pawn shop, out the door for $500.

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>>33915758
>>33916286
This guy here is a more permanent fixture in my gun safe. It's a '68 Marlin 336 RC, traded for a shotgun from an older dude who kept it as a truck gun. The blueing was a little worn, but the bore is in perfect shape and the action is amazingly smooth...I'd almost say it's better than my Henry .357. It was in dire need of some TLC when I got it, but I learned how to completely disassemble a Marlin 336 and gave it a good deep clean. It's not the most super accurate rifle out there - I blame the microgroove rifling - but it's dependable and in just bad enough external shape where I don't mind if it gets beat up.

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>>33915758
>>33916333
Finally, my Henry .357 with its little brother. I found the rifle for $450 on the Cabela's used rack and ended up walking out the door with it for $425, tax included. She's gonna be another permanent member of my collection.

Up next is getting another .22 and then either a .45-70 again or a .308 Long Ranger

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I can't decide what round to get an 1873 in. My heart says .44-40 for the authenticity, but my wallet says .357 Magnum.

>>33916483
Go with the .357 and shoot flat nose .38's. It's like shooting a big fat .22.

>>33916491
.357 lever guns are some of the most fun you can have with your clothes on

>>33916548
.357 is also pushing the limits of the 1873's toggle-link system

>>33916548
>not shooting nude
>>33916568
With modern steels I don't really perceive that as a problem, they are hot for a pistol carriage but in the end their pressures as it relates to stress on the action are probably on par with 30-30

>>33916580
The problem is that .357 generates over 2.5 times the chamber pressure as .44-40, and modern metallurgy can only do so much. I wouldn't be concerned about it failing immediately (all Italian-made firearms are proofed at something like 130% of maximum pressure), but those kind of extra forces are definitely going to wear on a gun after thousands of rounds.

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>more of a Henry than most Henrys

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>>33916305
hnnnggggg

Here's my new baby. A 1974 Win '94, 30-30. I was going to buy it for 300, but the guy talked himself down to 275. (I know I said 250 in the recent thread I'm retarded)

So, /k/, which is more popular / better?
ring or clean?
safety or not?
curved loop/grip or straight?
top ejection or side ejection?
rifle cartridge or pistol?

my preferences are all pretty much summed up in pic related

>>33916883
Most popular is clean, no safety with a straight grip for 94s. Mostly divided on cartriage and ejection angle but 30-30 is the most prevalent.

What is known is the changeover from forged to cast receivers and varying cost saving measures like stamped parts and roll pins http://www.dulite.com/dulite_94_win_oxide.html which for the early models were thin and the alloy not taking traditional bluing, the worst batches being from 68-72 is a sore topic with Winchester solving this by outsourcing to Miroku and making them forged again but people still aren't fond of the safety.

>>33916961
>the worst batches being from 68-72 is a sore topic with Winchester solving this by outsourcing to Miroku

Miroku didn't start making Model 94s until roughly 2010.

>>33916974
I stand corrected, was aware of that happening some time after that, though I will admit the main things I know of is the period of 68-72 because my rifle is of that and the receiver finish is so damn fucking thin and garbage. They say it wont take nirmal bluing but Ill probably strip it and try for a cold bluing, if that doesn't work I'll just bake on an alumahyde finish.

I have a henry in 30.30 but I'm gonna sell it because I hate having to load the mag tube so I want to replace it with something with a feed gate

Something about the marlin levers themselves really dont feel comfortable

How are winchester lever rifles? the 1886 looks purty

also open to other suggestions to levers with a straight stock, loading gate, and either 357 or 44 or 45-70

>>33917024
The Winchester 1894 is one of the most popular sporting rifles in the world for a reason. The 1886 and 1892 are similarly excellent.

>>33917039
coo coo

i dont know shit about them and didnt know if they had a remington quality about them

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I've found Sears 100s for 250 on gun broker, good deal? Even found a black coated one for $350 new. What about the Mossberg 464?

If i wanted to choose a spitzer lever gat what should i get. I'll list everyone i know. What models am i missing and what's a reasonable price for each

>Savage 99 (EG found for $250)
>Win 1895 (lowest i found was $999/browning 95 was more)
>Henry long ranger(.243 found for $875)
>BLR(lowest i found was $1000)

Opine away

>>33917185
Winchester 88

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Let's say hypothetically I had a Magnum Research BFR in .45/70 and a levergat also in .45/70, like a Marlin Guide Gun.

Should I make the revolver look like the Ranger Sequoia to match the wood furniture on the Guide Gun, or make the Guide Gun match the revolver?

>>33917305
>make something look like plastic crap or able it look cool as shit
Now if they made the BFR in .458 SOCOM I'd consider pairing it with an AR but even then I'd put wood furniture on both if I could.

>>33917305
Right column, because I have a hard-on for F:NV and also because rails on lever guns are disgusting.

>>33917185
The Sears 100 seems like an okay deal.

The Mossberg 464 has mixed reviews. They seem to have extractor or ejector issues. They're also the cheapest new production .30-30 out there.

>Spitzer
I'm partial to the long ranger myself. It's got amazing accuracy.

The savage 99 looks like ass

>>33917954
OP here, I too love shooting long range. My usual hunting rifle is a Model 700, in .25-06. I shoot it sub moa, but I've found over the past several years; all my hunting is within 100 feet, through thick brush.

>>33916019
Orange is required in my state.

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>TFW going to be getting a winchester model 94 from 1940 from my dad

>>33918031
Nice! Too bad the 92 is better than the 94.

>>33918072
Yeah but a levergat is a levergat

I've got a rossi 92 in .454. It's great aside from the fact it can't push factory .454 loads anymore due to an over length cartridge from hsm. It eats my hand loads just fine though up to the 405 gr cast at 1375 fps. It's also a dream with .45lc. Pairs nicely with the Taurus too.

Inherited a marlin .444, retarded cartridge but it's accurate as fuck

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Where can I buy a new production 357 levergat that isn't a fucking henry or a rossishit

does marlin make anything

>>33916851
>rimfire

>>33918470
Why new? You know used is a better deal and if you look long enough you can find a better rifle.

>>33918495
>.38 Special, .44-40, and .45 Colt are rimfire now?

>>33918864
>post ID

so close

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>>33919259
>post ID
??

>>33918863
>getting a gun chambered in .44 Henry in something other than .44 Henry
why
also learn how to greentext

>>33918839
>buying used

ultimate cuck tier

and i dont want to use gunbroker

>>33919634
Nigga go check the gun racks at all your local shops. Literally within 20 minutes of my house I can look at like 300 used guns.

>>33916049

It's worth about 3.5x what he's offering.

>>33917954
>Savage 99 looks like ass

You shut your whore mouth

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My first and favorite

Hey lever anons, as someone how has kind of a scrawny and lanky build, how.much recoil does a 30-30 have? My dad has a Marlin lever gun he used to hunt with and I'm trying to have him pass it down cause he doesn't shoot anymore.

>>33920108
.30-30 is to .30-06 as .22lr is to .22 magnum. I mean not literally, but felt recoil it's pretty accurate.

>>33920146
So how would it compare to a .308? .223?

>>33920199
.308 feels like a slightly weaker .30-06.

>>33920222
>trips of truth

Sorry, I should have specified, how does a 30-30 compare to the other calibers I mentioned

>>33920246
Yes, and I answered. .308 kicks about a third more than a .30-30, and about 25% harder than a .223.

>>33920263
That is pointlessly complicated

Shoot an AK and it feels about the same.

>>33920276
It's not my fault he's too stupid to use google.

>>33920263
Thanks bro, sounds like I should be able to shoot it just fine then.

>>33915777
>NO SAFETIES!
Pre-lawyer hue levergats are better than post hue levergats

Lawyers are evil, spawn of the devil

>>33920295
Agreed. What do you call a bus full of lawyers going off a cliff?
>a good start

What is the difference between a lawyer and a carp?
>One is a scumsucking bottom dweller, and the other's a fish.

>>33920222
Never shoot .30-06
How accurate it is compared to .308?

>>33918150
How much do you shoot and how is it holding?

I own a .454 revolver and I would love to bring a levergat around in the same caliber but people in the internet told me lever action cannot handle .454 and it will explode in my face eventually.

Is 450 + tax decent for a used Rossi 357? I'm thinking of picking up baby's first lever rifle and the only ones that aren't expensive look like Rossi and Henry.
I've never shot one before so I'm neutral to gate vs. tube

>>33920330
Iirc a 30-06 is a little more accurate at longer ranges

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Are levernuggets allowed? I want a lever-nugget so much. The price is so high, though.

>>33915758
Buy a new Henry or go to a gun show and buy a used 'other'?

>>33920743
Go to the gunshow and look at a bunch of guns and see if anything catches your eye. If you still prefer the henry, get the henry.

>>33915896
I have a boner for the .460 model since it's a better cartridge anyway. Cant believe Marlin hasn't jumped on it yet.

Scratch that, I can believe current Marlin hasn't done it.

>>33916012
Or he could just keep what he has considering it doesn't appear to be a shitheap. You know, like a reasonable person would do

>>33915758
Famas lever gun best lever gun

>>33916176
Call me when you can load those heavy AND feed them. It's a T/C load for a reason. Love those old wildcatters though

>>33919288
>show me where you can buy .44 Henry

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>>33920379
Bumping in hope that anon with the .454 answers.

More than one internet forum argued against a .454casull lever action rifle because the pressure is too high for the action.

Seeing as there are .500s&w lever guns I would disagree, but these ones are $1000+ guns and not some cheap BRshit

pls respond

>>33923903
The 1892 action is quite strong (some say even stronger than the 1894), but the main issue I see is that it was designed around a cartridge with an overall length of 1.6" and .454 Casull is noticeably longer than that.

tap

>>33919634
>buying used
>cuck tier

It's not a car dude

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so is there nobody out there currently making leverguns in .357 mag?

>Henry

that niggershit doesn't count, it's got to have a loading gate.

>>33926720
>that niggershit doesn't count

Shoot one, and you'll change your mind.

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Looking in to getting a Marlin 1894, 45 Colt, pic related
I opted to get this over the Henry steel because muh loading gate
Any reviews/thoughts on the 1894 Marlin?

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>>33919634
>he is okay with having a gf that had many penises in her that aren't yours
>he is not okay with having a gun that never had any penis inside her because people who would be sexually attracted to their guns are the kind of people that would never sell any gun anyway
Lol

>>33926897
Marlin had a bumpy road in 2011ish when Freedom Group bought them and they realized all of their tooling was super old and worn out and out of spec, which is why they went through a huge quality decline for a few years. They unfucked themselves though and current production 1894s are good to go. Old ones are good as well.

375$ canadian dollars for a 1949 marlin 336A 30-30 in okay condition. Should I go for it?

>>33928053
If the bore is in good shape, yes. External wear adds a little character to the gun.

>>33928053
>>33928600
But see if you can talk him down $50

>>33928053
not bad if its gtg.