/msg/ - Milsurp General

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>>33909984
Oh thank god.

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Wew thank god.

2nd Boer War war trophy 93/95 ZAR South African Republic Mauser reporting in.

Anyone here have experience with carcanos? Are they any good?

>>33910110
They're rough around the edges, and they have flaws, but yeah they're good.

What's the going rate for a matching, or mostly matching Swedish Mauser M96?

>>33910189
450-600. Don't be this guy.

https://youtu.be/HJnkKSG1960

Been looking for this thread for a couple of days. Since I think I might have fucked up over the weekend. Saw a mark III ross for like 600 bucks. That I didn't buy because someone lopped off about 5 inches off the end. It was the first one I've ever seen in person. Did I make a mistake?

>>33910219
Of the stock not barrel*

>>33910219
No, not really. They go for around $1200 unmolested but fixing it will be difficult in the extreme. Better to just pass it up.

>>33910219
Sportered rosses are worth like 300$, you definately didnt make a mistake

>>33910284
They go for more than that on gb normally

Going to the milwaukee gun show this weekend. Anyone been there. Heard it's one of the better milsurp ones in the Midwest

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>>33909984
>the same

I got some OC for u pham; used this weekend to get all my 'surps together.

>>33910189
I paid $300 for mine in February. The bolt handle was bent by a previous owner but all serial numbers are matching and the bore is VG.

>>33909984

>tfw waiting for my ross mk 2 to come
>ffl still hasn't started communication with dealer

I just want my retarded canadian rifle dammit

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>>33910685
>Still
Find a new FFL boss. This one apparently doesn't want your money.

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Repostan' my newest. 1941 Lithgwo SMLE. Bore is kinda crappy, but the rifling is still strong.

2 gun shows this weekend and one next weekend. Watch it all be tacticool ARs and bubbaed Mosins.

>>33911421
yellow paint screams INDIA!!!

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>>33912414
Probably but ya never know.

>>33912462

Yellow paint means "Second rate" in Aussieland. In Britannia it means "No live ammo" which is why I had the FFL check it for safety.

>>33912478

Here's hoping.

>>33911421
I was gonna buy a mark 3 this weekend until I saw it was ishapore. What'd you pay?

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Posting some of the "same old."

>>33912414
Same. Heading to two in southern wisconsin.

>>33912506

$375, asking price was $450. Bore is moderately pitts with decent rifling, stock has a slight wobble to the back, other than that it looks good to me.

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>>33912511
I like that Berthier. I need a long one.

>>33912560
That's pretty cool to have a lithgow they have to be a bit more rare than most. I imagine I'll buy a brit one

>tfw payday tomorrow
>tfw recently got a raise
It's been like 2 months since I've purchased a firearm. I'm itching lads

>>33912602

Yeah, part of why I stuck with it even after finding out what the paint meant was that I figured Lithgow was likely to be harder to come by in the future if I wanted one.

>>33912618

I think there's a cream for that.

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>>33912629
>I think there's a cream for that.
I'll save my pesos for guns t-bh

>>33910430
everything goes for more on gb. I got a K31 for $350 and I see them for 600-700 on gb.

Classic just got a bunch of Chilean Mausers. Priced nicely too.

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Does anyone know if this is moon speak on my type 99, or is it some random shit?

>>33912661
if they're still there tomorrow, I'm getting one
might get one of the ones that are missing the little piece on the rear sight

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Is it possible to put a k98/yugo mauser style sight hood on a vz 24?

>>33912661

Saving my money for the gun shows. If I don't find anything good at the gun shows then I might roll the dice and grab another M39 or pick up an SKS. Sad that the new batch of "Sneak"s are coming out now, I'd have grabbed one of those for sure.

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>>33912661
I like how half the pictures are of one that's sporterized. Wouldn't want to be the poor bastard that winds up with that one.

>>33912681
Not without modification; Kar.98k-style hood needs grooves on the sight base to slide into.

>>33912675
I just graduated college, and I got some money from relatives, and the amount that they gave me totaled more than enough, and my M48 needs another Mauser to keep it company. I'm probably going to buy one once I think it over a little bit.

>>33912669

It doesn't look like Katakana or Hiragana to me, it could be Kanji, I've only taken one quarter of Weaboo-speak.

>>33912713

The sporters were split out to their own listing.

>>33912516
SE WI here, Which shows?

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>>33912669
Heres a more or less nicer picture if anyone can help, if been putting it into google translate with no answer

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New acquisition! Will dump if /r/ed.

>>33912516
Why bother they are all shit

>>33912987

Closest I can find on my flash cards would be the katakana for "ta"

If it's not that (and it probably isn't) then it would have to be a kanji, which means you'll have a fun time figuring it out.

>>33913077
Best thing i could get was disaster, which makes sense, but it had an extra square in the body

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Whoever posted this picture in the last thread is wrong. I checked the bound book and the real price is 399.99.

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>>33913021
I feel like i should ask this despite no one requesting more. What do these crowns mean? (1916 Carl Gustav M96)

>>33912735
Milwaukee and delavan

>>33909984
I just got a schmidt-rubin, sporterized in 30-30.

Would you guys happen to know, or be able to test if 30-30 will fit and strip off of a standard Swedish stripper clip, a mosin stripper clip, and I have also heard of Swedish mauser stripper clips being used in the schmidt-rubin/k31 series as they were cut for Mauser style clips even though they were never used.

Will post pictures eventually.

>>33912650

Retailers need to sell to whoever comes in the store, GB sellers are selling to people looking for those specific guns.

>>33913246

Are the rims the same diameter?

>>33913223
Been to both of those shows before both were total shit. The Milwaukee show seriously only had like 20 stocked tables, all the rest were empty the time I went.

The only good gun shows in southern WI are ones put on by Bob and Rocco. They also do the massive Milwaukee shows in December and February. They are doing the Union Groove show in 2 weeks, it's always been a decent show.

>>33913313
Wrong. The only good show in all of WI is Iola. Every other show is trash.

>>33913313
Union grove is il tier.

T.il

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>get some American surplus .30-06 stripper clips
>mfw these clips have got to be the worst fucking things I have ever used

are there any decent stripper clips for the 1903 springfields I can buy? the fucking mauser and enfield stripper clips are way better.

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not enough pictures ITT

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I was given this garbage rod of a m98 yesterday

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>>33913936
doesnt seem too bad, how is the bore?

>>33913906
I want one of these so badly... but they've all been rechambered.

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>>33913936
The outside of the barrel was trashed
>>33913961
Bore is dirty and has what looks like dried cosmo in it but rifling looks sharp.

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>>33913975
Even the barrel bands were caked

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>>33913971
que? its in the original 7mm.

ive never seen a rechambered one.

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>>33913999
I must have foolishly mistaken it for a Portuguese vergurio. Those in their original clambering are what I'm lusting after.

That said a Brazilian Mauser is also mucho sexo.

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>>33913994
So I took about 2.5 hours this morning and some bronze wool with some 3 in 1 oil and worked all of the active rust off as well as cleaning the grease out of the stock and bolt

>>33914075

I'd hit it like the fist of an angry god.

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>>33914046
yea they rechambered most to 8mm, but honestly thats a good thing cause the original round is unobtanium, Ive never even seen the dies to reload them.

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>>33914114
I have a set. Cost $200 and 4 months. Don't even know where/how to get brass.
>>33914075
Cleaned up pretty nice.

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How much should I pay for one of these?

>>33914166
Surplus or new manufactured pos from auto ordnance?

>>33914200
surplus

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>>33912594
>I need a long one.
So do I.
If you ever sell that 1892, lemme know. I need a WWI correct Berthier.

>>33914209
Depends on who made it, but from what I've seen ~$1000 to ~$1500.

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>>33914254
You'd need something I want for trade to get that off my hands.

>>33912594
>I need a long one.
Definately not the first time we've had to hear that from you faggots.

>>33912594
>I need a long one
kek

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>>33912987
>>33912669
That's a scratch. Or someone was starting to carve their name into the stock and it began with R.

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>>33913021
>>33913198
I have my doubts a Swede carved that into the stock. This is what it is though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Crowns

You wouldn't happen to need a bayonet for it too? I have a nice Landsturmen marked one for sale.

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>>33914341
Hahaha, touché.

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>>33914284
Aye. I know. I've made painful trades in the past. Pic related.

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>>33909984
Humble WWII buff with little knowledge of small arms models here. I'm itching for an Enfield or a Mauser, what's the best "bang for your buck" model and what's a fair price for them? They don't have to be WWII models either, I'm just itching for a bolt gun after shooting my buddy's.

>>33914486

Turkish Mausers are still under $300, they're some of the few milsurp guns that are that cheap.

>>33910189
hopefully this range was accurate, because I just bought one for under that.

>>33914486
Enfield No4s will run between 400 and 600 right now. Russian capture Mausers are 500+, and some vz24s will be 400 or less.

>>33913486
Fibs git out reee

>>33914486
M48's were around 300 a few months ago, not sure about now, but I got mine for 300 in September last year. Shoots great.

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>tfw poorfag going to college in fall
>tfw these may be the only two rifles I will own for the next five years
Feels bad man

>>33914486
As others have already said, Yugo or Turkish Mausers are your best bet for cheap, and they're 300+ most likely. Enfields are 400 if you find a good deal or if it's in rough condition, more likely 500 or 600.

If you want really cheap mausers, you can find some Spanish Mausers or random South American country mausers for 200-ish, but they also tend to be chambered in 7mm which is more than double the 8mm Mauser that most Euro Mausers like the Yugo and Turkish Mausers shoot.

Also, as much of a meme as it is, if you're considering something besides the Enfield or Mauser, Mosins tend to be cheap and they're pretty fun to shoot despite their flaws (and there's a lot of them). Best bet for Mosins for cheap are the 91/30s for sale that are unfortunately 250-300 now, but higher quality Finnish Mosins that are more accurate can be bought for 350-400.

>>33914802

>Sell yourself
>Buy more guns

What's worth more? Your dignity or your sweet, sweet milsurp?

>>33914862
If the market was there, I would sell myself in a heartbeat for muh milsurp but it just isn't there

>>33914974

Sell your juices then.

Selling plasma can net you a couple hundred a month.

sell me your juices

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>>33914486
My m48 was $250 + S&H about three months ago

why the fuck are lebels so expensive?

should I just say fuck it and try to sneak a krag Jorgensen I saw for around 500 bucks and wait/pray fro lebels to start tanking in price?

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I want to get a Garand next, but I need to focus on getting practiced for this seasons 3 gun.

>>33915871

If the Krag is complete then 500 is a great price for it. If it's sporterized then not so much.

>>33915926

I want one too, but I'm going for the low-hanging fruit first.

>>33912594

is the berthier worth what they go for right now? I always thought they were neat.. strongly considering getting one just cause, but I'd love to get a good shooter and I heard older french guns can be pretty rough

>>33916145

you could probably go for a mas 36 if you want a decent shooter. the ammunition is far easier to acquire relative to 8mm lebel.

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>>33912478
>>33912414

I'd still go, I always find something cool. I got ammo at the last one.

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>>33913961
>>33913975
>>33913994
>>33914075

does anyone remember the anon in france who found the mauser?

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>>33916158

I always loved the look of those, too. I know they'd probably be kinda trashed, but I thought a neat variant of that to have would be one used by the Vietcong.

>>33916145

Define "worth".

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>>33914486
Yugo Mausers are a safe bet and can usually be found around $300. I've also noticed that Chinese Mauser rifles sell pretty cheap and they have a lot of history and use behind them. Anyone here have a Chinese Mauser?

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>>33916256

As in the life left in them as a firearm. I know 8mm lebel isn't common and I reload for two other rifles right now, but its moreso just the quality out of whats left out there. are they decent shooters?

>>33916206
Yes. I cared more about the M34 Berthier he found though.

>>33913538
I've heard that Swedish Mauser stripper clips fit US rifles fine.

>>33916306

That's gonna vary considerably from rifle to rifle. I can't really answer that in a definitive way, most likely no one can.

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>>33916306
Short answer is yes. Obviously shitty examples exist, but most are very suitable and some can be surprisingly accurate. All that I've encountered have been smooth as well, though recoil can be a tad stout in the carbines. Almost as bad as the M95.

Realistically though you're not gonna be putting thousands and thousands of rounds through them.

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>>33916206
yes, havent seen too many updates in a while

>>33909984
new to gats, and newer to milsurp. I'm thinking about buying an m1 garand I found at a pawn shop for 900 bucks. The serial is 514346 and is has a SA/NFR stamp on the stock. I'm not quite sure what else to look for when buying, the wood condition is probably a little below fair. It has seen better days and could use a refinishing. Should i buy /k/?

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>>33914494
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>>33914802
>>33915667
>>33916288

Thanks everyone. I love the X-general threads because people are actually fucking helpful.

>>33916599
>could use a refinishing
It is fine
>But you can't even see it
And I know it is fine.

As to whether to buy or not, it depends. It's a fair price these days. If you want a Garand you'll likely be hard pressed to find a better deal. But, at least to me, they're rather overrated rifles.

>>33916599

>could use a refinishing

don't do it. you'll most likely devalue/damage that rifle and cost hundreds of dollars in the finish + lost value.

>>33916623
>>33916661
Thanks for the heads up nigs, at any rate I wouldn't have done anything myself. Other than getting the date on the barrel, what else should I do before buying.

>overrated
Could be, I have no experience there. But I want to hear the pings

>>33916599

That's a decent price for a Garand. The SA means Springfield Armory, not sure what NFR means. I'd probably buy it if I saw that and the bore looked halfway good.

Also, like the others said, don't refinish. Please.

>>33916679
It stands for Norman F. Ramsey

>thought I bough a bayonet for pic related
>turns out to be a M1900 Venezuelan 71/84

Quillon is intact... kys

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>>33916733

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Waiting on this gas adjustment tool is killing me

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>>33916830
I know the feeling.

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>>33916871
It's maddening

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>>33918484
I remember seeing one of these for $300 in my favorite milsurp store.

In 2004.

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1941 izhesk owned by murican

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>>33918561
I should have been buying 'surp instead of junk food and booze back in college.

The folly of youth.

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>>33918603
T.slavaboo

Unrelated question, but Are the US standard issue army acu assualt molle bags any good for a day to day backpack? Do they come in black?
What are all the colours they come in? And what's your experiences with them?

>>33919897
Try the gear queer thread

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>>33910110
I have one. Bottom of pic related.

Never shot it. Ammo is a pain in the cock to find and you have to use clips to shoot more than one

>>33919896
Do the x54r ones have the same head spacing problems as the .30-06

>>33919964
No. Even the 30-06 ones don't have problems so long as you avoid high pressure (in excess of 50kpsi) ammo.

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Do you fags think that the new CoD game will have an effect on surp prices the way the recent battlefield did?

>>33913538
Swedish Mauser clips work well.

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>>33920170
I don't think Battlefield affected surplus prices at all.

>>33920170

Probably. There's enough time since the last WW2 AAA shooter that it's gonna be a new generation of fags who want their Mosins.

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>>33916442
>>33916475

Makes sense, I tend to just sort through all the ones on gunbroker at work and I've always been intrigued by them because of the history.

The lebel is a neat rifle as well. Although, at that price point I may just go the extra couple hundred bucks for a good condition C96.

>decisions, decisions

>>33920203

Eat ramen for a month and get both.

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>>33920226

solid plan, not even remotely inconvenient if you want them bad enough. after I waste part of my tax return on new tires, I'm going to get something fun.

>>33920170

>tfw some of the rifles I got are directly related to me playing battlefield 1 and finding them interesting

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>>33920203
The Lebel is fun as fuck. One of my favorite rifles to shoot.

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>>33920191
I'd like to think it didn't, but with it being as popular as it was and all the YouTube videos comparing guns from the game with their real counterparts it definitely did something. It has an affect in the same way Demoranch and TFBTV have an effect. People see guns they had little to no interest in and suddenly want one.

>>33920272
If anything YouTube collectors are the ones driving interest. I've bought more because of Othais than I have because of any other form of media.

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>>33919959
Nice Gew.98. Post dat rollmark.

>>33920170
Mildly. There's already so much WW2 media that unless this is hugely successful I can't see it making any significant impact.

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>>33920300
I can see that. I bought my k31 because of hickock

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>>33920300
the only rifle that a youtube video motivated me to really want to buy was a Pederson.

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>>33920385
Got my Lebel, my gew 98 and Kar98az, my P14, my Type 30 rifle and carbine, my Type 38, my M95, and my Greek Mannlicher all because of C&Rsenal.

>>33920452

bought my ross mk 2 because of c&r and forgotten weapons.

that and I love straight pulls

>>33920318
I'll getchu a rollmark when I get home bby

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>>33920755
Yeah a Ross is on my list because of them. They're why I fell in love with Mannlichers (that and how fun they are). I got my Peruvian Mauser because of Ian.

If I don't find anything good at the gun shows this weekend I might just make the drive up 2 hours away to a place that has M44s in stock.

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>>33920755
>>33920452
>>33920385
>>33920252
Well if a handful of YouTube videos can cause us to buy certain guns I'm sure CoD will cause at least a little buzz

>>33921378
Maybe but those YouTube channels are already catering to our specific niche interests. Video games, AAA titles at least, don't usually go for the same audience.

Where are the best online stores to look for milsurp?

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anyone interested in a Berdan I for $4500 + S&H?

>pic related but not the exact rifle for sale - similar condition though --- interested buyers will get actual photos

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>>33921581
Gunbroker.

>>33921581
Slickguns.com

Classic Arms has Vz 52s coming in stock tomorrow.

>>33921910
How many thousands do they want for it?

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>>33912650
>tfw bought a $600 K31

At least it has an extremely nice Walnut stock and zero pitting. Also a near-perfect bore.

>>33922085

$500 for the GC coded ones.

>>33922112

I paid $636 for mine with shipping. Came with a reloading die, 36 rounds of ammo in chargers and 20 rounds of fired brass.

>>33922112
That stock has been sanded and refinished.

>>33922116

I honestly can't tell if that's good or bad since gunbroker only has maybe 4-5.

also how hard is it to acquire 7.62x45?

>>33922547
Damn near impossible in adoptable quantities. You have to handload for it.

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>>33922112
i have no words.

>>33922571

well fuck that shit then.

>>33922198
I don't care. The condition of most K31s is akin to a receiver + barrel that someone set into a rotten stick that was once used as a club.

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>>33922721
No really. I mean the stocks won't be perfect but they aren't gonna see a lot of hard use either.

>>33922746
That one looks fine. Any $400 or less K31 I've seen last couple months had buttstock and handguards that looked like they had been through hell.

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>>33922795
Well mine was also $500.

Fuck it I'm buying one of those Chilean Mausers off of Classic. I can't stand it anymore.

>>33922900
cant stand what?

>>33922943
The urge to buy milsurp

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>>33922970
Same. I just can't stop

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>>33923769
It truly is a curse.

Really wish I could just buy these guns retail. Its a pain in the ass finding them.

>>33923806
Well, just put my order in for one of those Chilean Mausers, fingers crossed lads.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/643828515

is there something wrong that I'm not seeing here?

A guy at work wants to sell me his dads nazi k98 captured rifle. He hasnt named a price yet. Anybody know the going rate for these? Its in great shape and i would want to make a fair offer.

>>33924765
Ask for 200 first and work up slowly and stubbornly from there lol

>>33924724
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/643828515
Reserve isn't met and there is over 24 hours left to bid.

Can I go to vegas on vacation, marry a hooker and become a citizen of the USA and be free to collect surp?
I need more rifles damnit.

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>>33925307
I think the INS know that sort of thing by now.

Where are you from anyhow?

>>33925090
Reserve is one thing, but with about a day left there should be pretty good bidding activity already. I'm looking at a Mateba with 10 days to go, and the bidding is already up to $4k.

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Has anyone else been to the big gunshow at Meadow View? Is it ever worth it to go

>>33922547

Ammoseek has 0 results.

>>33924765

You can look at Gunbroker to see finished auctions IIRC. I think they go for around $1k in good shape.

>>33925307

If you're pro-2A then I'll vouch for you for immigration if that helps at all.

>>33925364
I'd rather not say, it's a meme country when talking about gun laws.

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>>33909984
Any ideas why this 1917 doesn't have receiver markings?

>>33925705

So Austfailia or Brittania then.

>>33925733
Now that's cool.

>>33925797
Is $775 a fair price on a really nice 1917?

>>33925373
Sometimes bidding doesn't get going until the last hour. Or maybe most everyone has missed it.

>>33925733
Is it shortened at all. Does it have any stock markings?

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>>33925941
Yes.

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>ross mk2 shipped
>have .303 waiting for it and that straight pull sex

god have mercy

Looking to get into milsurp where do i begin

>>33926446

Mosin Nagant.

>>33926344
Not shortened, and yes.

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>>33926446
Good old nugget and a cheap mauser. I recommend both an m91/30 and an m48 to fill both of those slots. If you want a cheap semi-auto in an easy to find caliber, go with a Yugo SKS

>>33926446
But what you like as you learn, groom your collection, and it will read like a beautiful story

>>33926446

what kind of milsurp guns are you into? early bolt actions? ww1 shit? ww2? 1950s-70s?

pick an era you like, pick a gun you find appealing and in your price range and start there. I would recommend starting with a bolt action since they have a simpler initial maintenance than a semi-auto.

>>33926478
Leaning towards WWI. Im assuming that will cause the price to go up a little.

>>33926505

It will make things harder to find since a lot of guns were destroyed or converted later (i.e. the M91/30 Mosins) but WW2 is probably more popular, so the prices probably won't be that much worse.

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My beautiful new Kar98k with most of the serial numbers matching. Dated 1941

>>33926505

>Leaning towards WWI

depends on how tight your focus is on milsurp. if you want an original unmolested obendorf 1898 mauser then I hope your wallet is fuckhuge. some other examples of wallet raping ww1 shit: winchester 1895, very good condition m1903s if you live in burgertown.

if you want a smle mk 3 your wallet will be mostly spared. same with mosin-nagants, and M95s. There are a ton more cheap or reasonably priced milsurp.


I would recommend a SMLE mk 3 as their prices range in the 300-500 bucks and the ammunition is fairly easy to acquire. I personally roll with PPU for .303 british.

>>33926539

Gorgeous. I don't really want to pay the price for K98ks, but I will sooner or later.

>>33926546

If he wants a WW1 style Mosin it's gonna be tougher, since 91/30s wouldn't cut it.

>>33926467
What are the markings on the stock?

>>33926561

>If he wants a WW1 style Mosin it's gonna be tougher, since 91/30s wouldn't cut it.

true. for me if the price of an original make rifle is too much I will go for the nearest condition rifle using the same design and call it good until my wallet is huge enough.


but it's really up to how rigid the buyers focus is on the shit they want.

>>33926580

Yep. There's a Garand at a nearby pawn shop for $1100, but it's not an M1. It's a commercial 7.62 NATO conversion with an 18" barrel. Plenty of guys would probably be happy with that, haggle down to $1k or maybe even lower, then they have a Garand. But I want an original spec one.

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>>33924463

post pics when it arrives

>>33924463

I kinda want to get one, but I have so many other things that are higher up that I can't justify spending the money. Reading the Classic Arms posts is suffering these days.

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>>33926561
>If he wants a WW1 style Mosin it's gonna be tougher
Not really. Finn M91s are fairly abundant. Unless you're like me and wouldn't accept a Finn.

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J&G has fucking arisakas in stock. WTF

>>33926539
Nice, how much did you snag it for?

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>>33927368
Probably some dead Arizonan's little collection.

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>>33927386
Still, I HAVE A MIGHTY NEED for a type 99

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>>33927396
>type 99
Too short and/or ugly for me.

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>>33920318
Rollmark inbound

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>>33927960
It is a bring back. No import marks.

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>>33927960
>>33927964
>Mauser-brand Mauser
Aww yeah.

>>33927964
Dammit stupid phone Auto filling sage in my name field fuck off that's reserved for shariablue

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>>33927964
>It is a bring back. No import marks.
I think mine is either a bring-back or a war-bond rifle. The firing pin tip has been broken off —like a war-bond rifle— but the barrel is not plugged. Everything save the cleaning rod matches the receiver.

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>>33927960
verrrry nice

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>>33926565
Just the last two of the serial

>>33928433
It's been in somebody else's hands then; the US didn't serial anything other than the receiver.

>>33927368
They want a lot of money for them.
> The refinished two piece stock has a possible bullet strike and a damaged butt plate
Lol, someone cut a hole in the buttplate to make it into a lamp. Not a bullet strike.

>>33926613
Lol don't go anywhere near that garbage.

>>33928433
Is there a E or another letter on the nose?
It's definitely not worth anything close to 775 with a scrubbed receiver. Another thing to check is how many grooves it has in the rifling. The original m1917 had 5 grooves with a left hand twist. A number were rearsenaled in WW2 with more conventional 4 or 2 groove barrels with right hand twists

>>33926469
I have both of those (I'm not the Anon who asked), but a 91/30 or an M48 are both good choices. They are both great shooters (at least mine are) and the ammo for the Mosin is still relatively easy to get (my local Walmart even has it on occasion). I'm just happy my dad got me my Mosin when they were still 99$ six or seven years ago

>>33928443
>>33928503

I can't spot any other markings besides a flaming bomb on the metal on top of the receiver to the left of the magazine

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>>33927396
I got mine 2 weeks ago for $195.

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>>33928601
The nose is the piece of wood that protrudes through the last barrel band/bayonet lug

>>33928637
I know what you meant, but there isn't a picture of that on the site.

>>33929858
Gross

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>>33929980
Eh, I kinda like it. Not usually a fan of Turkish stuff but for $200 I couldn't say no.

>>33930051
2bh they are like $180 on gb right now. Thinking about buying one and burying it in the back of the safe I don't look in ever.

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>>33930106
If you like the Mannlicher turnbolts as much as I do they're pretty interesting. Of course it just further highlights my need for a pure Gew88.

>>33928658
That stamp is probably the only way you'll find out who made. Any way that gun isn't worth nearly $800.

>>33930156
I figured they had a convention bolt. Shame on me. I never gave then the time of day

>>33927368

And here I am just 2 days away from 2 gun shows. Hopefully I either find a better deal or end up with enough money left over to buy something.

Classic Arms is getting Enfields.

>>33930190
Even if it's really damn nice? I'd show the link for the gun, but I don't wanna give away my secret online gun shop.

>>33930953
And I bet they'll be 900 bucks or some ridiculous shit. I don't take them seriously anymore when it comes to their milsurp.

>>33930996

$500 for GC, +$30 for G. They also have two .22 trainer rifles for $500.

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Is she salvageable lads?
1/2

Is this recent batch of surp from SAMCO's bankruptcy?

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>>33931055
2/2

>>33931039
That's still about 100 too much, factor in 40 for shipping and you're getting ripped off.

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>>33931055
>>33931067
That's nothing. Give it here if you don't feel up to it.

>>33931060
Probably most of these little Mauser batches that popped up recently.

>>33931060

Yes.

>>33931067
>>33931055

Really hard to know from the outside alone. Is the inside pitted? Is there a lot of rust in the bore? Deep pitting under the wood line?

That's more important.

>>33931085

*shrugging intensifies*

I've got mine, so I don't need one, but if someone wants one now at a fixed price instead of a week from now at whatever they end up paying on GB then it's the only game in town that I'm aware of.

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>>33931055
>>33931067
Very much so.
>I really love Berthiers

>>33931055
>>33931067
Oh easily. Couple hours of work at most.

Of course if you don't wanna put that effort in I'll take it off your hands.

>>33930996
Its still a scrubbed gun. You shouldn't pay more for that gun than you would for a good condition Eddystone.

>>33931123
Fair enough.

>>33931240
I'm not overly concerned with the resale value in that sense, cos to me it's still a 1917. I just asked about it here because I was paranoid it might somehow be demilled and the seller doesn't know. After a couple heartbreaks, I don't sell my guns anymore.

>>33931311
Still shouldn't pay more for a gun than its more worth

I've never bought anything from classic but I like them less and less time I see one their videos.

>>33931499

Why's that?

>>33931534
Because they show a lack of some fairly basic knowledge and manage to sell their shit out above market price most of them time. Guess im just assblasted.

>>33930953

>$500

wew lad

>>33931588
Not him, but I've noticed that each of their videos has gotten more obnoxious lately. Even last fall they had some decent deals, but since then they've charged Gander Mountain-tier prices on milsurp. I bought from them once last September, but haven't seen anything reasonable since then.

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>>33931588
>a lack of some fairly basic knowledge
The second coming of Don Mitchell.

>>33931620
mitchells were forced and scrubbed m48s or something right?

>>33931667
Mitchells is still very much in business.

>>33931667
Refinished, force-matched, and outright forgeries made from Russian-captures.

>>33931691
They're refinished (not even correctly either), but they word their ad pitch so that it sounds like the rifles are in original factory condition and not humped by bubba.

They also have suspiciously convenient supplies of rare maker/date/SS marking combinations.

>>33931717
>>33931686
I figured as much, my old boss was shilling for them hard back in the day because he didnt know any better.

>>33931717
I don't get how so many people fell for that.

>here is this rifle worth close to 2k for 600 dollars

>>33932359
Boomers can't resist things like that. They think entirely in numbers.

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Tempted on buying one of those Chilean Mausers off Classics. What do?

>>33933491
don't, please don't

first, they are out of decent ones. Second, you never want to get anything below hand picked, excellent on classic. I got a very good Sako m39 off there and it is cracked to high fucking hell. So much that any sane person would retire it, but fuck it, I bought it, I'm gonna shoot it. Now I'm looking for a replacement stock and the gun has some pitting.

Don't trust that fat fuck.

>>33933491
I bet you those mk IIIs they got coming tomorrow are going to be 600+

>>33933491
Classic has its ups and downs. Mostly downs. My 92s was a fantastic buy. They had them for 289 or so and I got one with bluing wear but flawless internals. The k31 I got was fine metal wise and rated VG, they said there were no cracks or scratches outside the normal wear and they weren't coded for cracks. Mine had a very visible 2+in crack on the handguard that went all the way through. Still only paid 374 total for it though

>>33933674
starting at 500

id bet they are all ishys though

>>33934073
>all ishys though
Nothing wrong with that.

>>33934173
well

I mean if there was one factory I wouldnt want my enfield to be from it would be ishy

>>33933491
My order is already in (not the anime anon), but I hope mine turns out great. I've never order a gun from them before, so like i said earlier in the thread, fingers crossed anons.

>>33934274
Why? They made perfectly good rifles.

What do you think /k/?
I know it's been sportirized but for $200 It's so damn tempting.

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>>33934489
Forgot pic
>I'm only pretending to be retarded

>>33934505
$150 - $180 Jew them down.

>>33934505
try to lower them a couple of shekels.

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>>33933779
>tfw I got this from AIM surplus for $10 more than you paid

Don't buy from trash companies that purposefully mislead customers.

>>33934445
because I would rather just not have a pajeet rifle

>>33934569
Why? Is it autism?

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>>33934596
probably

>>33934605
Oh, I see. /pol/tard. I understand now.

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>>33934567
Mine had a light coat of grease on it, but cleaned to an excellent nearly 2 tone finish. This pic was directly after I took it out of the box

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>>33934569
This is keeping them cheaper for me, so you do you

>>33934615
I don't go to /pol/ thats a very old meme. Way before /pol/ got its hands on it. Take it easy

>>33934622
Yeah, and you got that awful billboard import mark on the slide. Mine doesn't. DESU that "two tone" looks pretty awful, like they put a different slide on the frame. Actually reminds me of my west German p38. It pays to shop around.

>>33910189
Almost got one a few years ago for $295. Probably could've talked him down. Still kick myself for not doing it

>>33912681
I wish I had a pic of my Vz 24 but mine definitely has some kind of sight hood on it.

>>33931055
>>33931067
literally nothing is wrong with it

>berthier carbine for 400 bucks

should I snag it boys? woods cracked but overall seems good.

>>33932359

A: They probably weren't worth that much money then

B: Most people have no idea how much milsurp is worth.

>>33933491

Buy one.

>>33934382

I've had good experiences so far. Of course I've only bought 2 things from them, a 91/30 many moons ago and a M39 a couple months back.

>>33935820
3 or 5 round?

>>33935971

looks to be a 3:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/645659874

>>33935979
Oh that one. I dunno that's kinds iffy. It's odd to me that it's marked as a M16 but seems to be in 1892 configuration.

Just bought a VG cracked SKY M39 made by SAKO for 490 shipped. I'm pretty excited

>>33936104

If I don't find anything good this weekend at the gun shows I'm gonna have a hard time not buying another M39.

>>33936144
They've got low stock of the VG-C ones, so I'd hurry and grab one. Who knows when well see more M39s.

>>33936176

Probably never. Since I already have one I'll probably manage to resist though.

>>33935979
>>33936055
Early M16s were just like the 1892s. They hadn't finalized the magazine design yet and the handguard came a little later too.

>>33936235
How much more valuable are the SKYs?

>>33936240
Ah.

>>33936303

I have no idea. I've only recently decided to pull the trigger and actually get buying.

>>33936240
>>33936322

so would throwing $400 at it be unwise? I like French shit and have been aiming for a lebel but those fuckers aren't cheap.

>>33936359
Depends how much you wanna shoot. Clips aren't cheap, and PPU only makes ammo once a year.

>>33936359

Not that guy, but if you want it buy it. If you want it and it's not ridiculously priced then it's worth it, even if it's more than it's strictly worth.

>>33936359
Yes