Best defense against machetes?

>>33899279
If American get gun.
If not, that's just what life is like for you

>>33899279
Where are you, Lon Gisland?

>>33899279
Gun.

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>>33899279

I'm an American, but I don't live in the States. I'm in Mexico, and while having a gun for self-defense is legal, using it is usually considered "excessive force" and you usually end up getting sued and jailed for defending yourself or your property. Any other suggestions other than guns? More melee type defense, is what I'm looking for.

>>33899533
Oh, well in THAT case still a gun.

>>33899533

And the biggest caliber bullets that are allowed for self-defense are .22, anything else is military grade and illegal, can land you 10 years and 1 day in a federal prison.

>>33899533
spray mace and a stick?

>>33899279
chainmail cannot be cut through

>>33899533
Taser gun combined with mil grade mace

I think a shield could work but I don't know what commonly accessible items can be used as an effective shield, I used to watch cold steel promotional videos for giggles and apparently some of the stuff can penetrate car hoods

What type of wood would have good enough density to make a shield out of? I'm thinking of gearing up much like Based Stickman whenever I have to walk to the convenience store.And probably gearing up with smileys or some shit. I'm just fed up, motherfuckers have also stolen shit from my property for the past couple of months, usually ligh bulbs or copper wiring so they can continue to finance their meth addictions >:(

>>33899573
use a gun and run away after shooting them.

Sorry guys, I'm just desperate to feel safe out here. It's ridiculous the amount of crime that happens here, and I just want to be safe. What is the strongest mace available for consumers? Anything that I could get at a surplus store, as I'm going back to Arizona this weekend.

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>>33899548
>And the biggest caliber bullets that are allowed for self-defense are .22
No problem then

To think that people need to use a shield like captain America not to fight the threatening thugs but to protect self from them and laws that would punish you for removing the thugs

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>>33899279
Tonfa and karate block skill

>>33899533
Simple answer

Get a machete too, battle it out.

>Star wars: south of the border.

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>>33899279
Pot cover can use to be shield

>>33899827
you can also tape bread to your head as a makeshift bump helmet

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>>33899556
now we are talking

old tortillas as throwing stars. We both know it would work, them fuckers can be lethal.

>>33899533
>More melee type defense, is what I'm looking for.
Six friends, seven machetes.

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>>33899279
stab proof and arm protector make sense

>>33899548
Biggest habdgun caliber allowed in Mexico is .38 which is why .38 Super 1911s and the original .380 Glocks (models 25 and 28) are extremely popular down there. .357 SIG might be ok too but unsure of that one. Personally Id say go with the local flavor and get a Colt 1911 in .38 super, if not the Glock 25 (Glock 19 sized .380 and holds 15+1) would be my choices.

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>>33899279

Put a Cutting board in your backpack, now you have a everyday carry shield.

>>33899909
What is that material called?

>>33899778
Oh man, why didn't I think of that, and it's a lot more convenient than a shield. If I can make some type of metal tonfas and couple it with stab/slash proof material that would pretty much have me set.

ALSO I tried the old hard tortilla trick, them fuckers just ate the shit and asked if I had more :/

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use a cutting board you can make a blade proof shield like this, too.

>>33899909
nice trips m8

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Okinawa karate tonfa block

>>33899533
Would you rather get chopped to pieces or risk jail? You might still avoid consequences if you run or get rid of the body. It's not like someone's gonna look for a machete-wielding thug.

>>33899909
https://www.ringmesh.com/ChainMail_Shirts_and_Vests_s/25.htm

stab proof wests are usually expensive as fuck and "single use"
welded maille is best;German police wear it when dealing with melee sandniggers

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Okinawa (ryuukyu) karate weapons
can DIY made by tool easily

>>33899279
>>33899533

fake news, mexicans would never attack an american with machetes we need to bring more over the border to settle america at taxpayer cost

>>33900145

to be fair, they're not attacking me cause I'm american, because I'm a 2nd generation american with Mexican ancestry, so I'm brown just like them. These are just pariahs that are ruined by methamphetamine and don't do anything but commit crime. I mean, if you REALLY want to go down that road, there's always /pol/

I just want help in protecting myself and my property, that's it and that's all

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You can use 2-3 cm thick old newspaper or magazine make a paper armour.

MythBusters- Paper Armor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU9BoOJxpbE

put old magazine book in a bag, it can block the blade too.

>>33899952
Is make that out of aluminum. It's funny when you hit someone with an aluminum bat because it goes "PING".

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>>33899533
Sucks to be your ass. Better get muled over here before the wall is finished.

>>33899279
>>33900203
Honestly the best defense you can learn is avoidance. Now obviously everyone who reads this is think "captain obvious," but I'm not referring to moving to a new area.
My statement is based on the Idea "if they can't touch you, they can't hurt you." going into melee is dangerous. especially against a machete. attempting to block such an attack is also an extremely bad idea. any time you focus on blocking should instead be focused on moving off of the line of attack. done properly you are either creating more distance between you and the threat (good) or moving to a position that allows you to effectively neutralize said threat (great for aggressive types). standing there and blocking is only going to give them reason to attack a second time.

in a nutshell... learn to dodge first.

>>33899279
riveted chainmail.

I'm serious, the main threat of a machete is its concealability and the resulting quick potency of sustaining injury from a successful surprise attack. Riveted chainmail and heightened awareness reduces that risk to almost zero. Also, wearing it everyday trains your weak body, reducing the risk of an attack even further.

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Attackers are easily intimidated, so the best thing to do is dress loudly in expensive clothing, strut around arrogantly, and flash a lot of jewelry and cash. This works best in the worst neighborhoods, as the criminals will think "OMG he obviously is well-connected and powerful if he is acting like that here, I will attack someone less threatening."

PIc related is how you should be.

>>33899533
>Mexico
Just get a gun, and if you're attacked, kill whoever is attacking you. It's Mexico. Nobody gives a shit. Bury them in your back yard or something.

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>>33901184
>>33901184
seriously this
just gtfo mexico if you have to use lethal force to protect yourself, or just bribe someone isn't that what makes the mexican world work?

>>33901249
mexico is just the place in an mmo where pvp is enabled.

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>>33901294
yeah i don't really see any reason to follow the rules there, nobody else does.

>>33899533
95% of murders go unsolved in Mexico. If you shoot someone, leave them there. The police will think some drug cartels killed him and will immediately look the other way. Or just bury his body, Mexico has amazing forests and deserts, let the vultures eat him.

>>33899940
.380 Glocks are legal in Mexico? Nice, I thought it was only a handful of pistols. Also, if you watch a my documentary or news coverage of Mexico's only gun shop, they showcase many guns on the walls. I tried researching it, but couldn't find much. But I've read some people say that you could even LEGALLY buy assault rifles in Mexico once you have the paperwork and money. Do you know if that's true?

>>33899279
You need a reach advantage, so get a long ass stick / cane / spear / sword

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>>33899533
>>33899279
Make a trip to Haiti.

https://vimeo.com/182706453

>>33899596

>Buy real pistol illegally.
>shoot frijole
>throw gun in the local open sewer
>walk home

It's mexico. Pretty sure they aren't going to CSI the body of some dead junkie robber to find you lol

>>33899573
Plywood will do the trick just fine. Slit a garden hose and attach that over the edges for a little more protection, or use leather/steel if you really want it to last.

When blocking strikes with a shield you generally catch them on the edges so as not to obstruct your vision too much, reserve use the broad face to deflect projectiles such as thrown stones and arrows.

>>33901954
Exactly, OP is dumb though.

>>33900225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGpAQkpgV_M

3:06 the guy cut a roll of newspaper, It's a different type of paper?

I am also Mexican and I would like to know if this video is true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52LIgsY8oA

in 6:58 he Shoot a bullet against a 500-sheet paper package and the bullet does not penetrate

>>33899279
I live in a major city in Canada and its a common thing here for somalis to rob people with machetes, knifes and even guns.
If you live in USA I would suggest getting a concealed carry permit if your state allows it and start carrying a pistol.

I live in a small town in central Canada. There are strict no-gun policies here - fuck, my friends and I even got our fucking paintball and airsoft guns confiscated by the cops.

Same issue up here. It's either methheads looking for shit to steal, fuckleheads doing the same, or just people with raging murderboners.

Fucking help.

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>>33902853
which side of canada?

>>33902900
Near North Dakota, and that's all the information you're getting from me in regards to location.

>>33899533
Take a hint from the moslems in britain and carry a canister of acid to throw on your adversary.

>>33899533
a plane ticket, assuming there are airports where you live

i was under the impression that rural canada doesn't have a problem with self defense? wrong impression?

>>33899806
kek

>>33899533
wear long sleeves, wrap a piece of steel around your forearm hidden under the sleeve on your left or even both arms. Carry mace,a taser, and possibly an expandable baton.

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the answer is why the fuck are you in mexico if you are an american especially now that you're dealing with machete wielding spics?

>>33899533
It's mexico, just shoot them and leave.

Nobody is gonna care, and your name won't be on paper for the cartels to come fuck you up.

>>33902939
nobody lives in north dakota

>>33903025
In the country, that might be true. But small railway towns like mine? We are at the the mercy of politicunts and asshole mayors.
>>33903196
>near North Dakota

>>33903179
it really does seem too fucking easy

>>33903209
sorry anon, i have some empathy for you as i come from a USA ban state.
luckily if it came to machetes, where i come from there would be a lot of people turning the other cheek.

>>33899533
where you at friend?

>>33903179
So you're saying you want to directly be involved in CQC with an aggressive, angry assailant, instead of shooting him and walking off?

What's your level of training for beating the shit out of someone with a baton\machete\stick\sword? You realize how simple it is to shoot a mother fucker and just walk off? Come on man.

>>33903158

College education at the Bachelor level is way cheaper out here, and my college is a sister college to the University of Arizona. Any bachelor's degree I get out here (I am studying mechatronics) will work just fine for any job in the States, especially since I am an American citizen. It's kind of the same trade off, at the end of the day. I either get killed by machete mexicans, or i get killed with college debt.

Once I get my degree I plan on moving back, and getting a master's through a scholarship, but I'm taking it one day at a time

>>33903209
http://globalnews.ca/news/3093747/exclusive-former-winnipeg-gang-member-speaks-out-about-recent-incidents-citys-gang-problem/

amirite?

>>33903300
>http://globalnews.ca/news/3093747/exclusive-former-winnipeg-gang-member-speaks-out-about-recent-incidents-citys-gang-problem/
>city, not podunk town in the middle of assfuck nowhere
>where antifucks come to blow off steam

No.

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>>33903279
such a rich and diverse educational experience and idon't really feel bad for you, although i understand your fear of ending up in mexican prison indefinitely or sliced the fuck up

I realize that getting a gun would be the easiest route for sure, but you guys don't understand how the law works out here. If you're not EXTREMELY well connected, you WILL rot in a fucking jail. The only people that aren't caught are the people that have exhorberant amounts of money to not get caught. Bribes aren't cheap. Seriously, it's a tooootally different context to what you guys are accustomed to, and when I first moved out here I suffered from culture shock because I just couldn't understand how the cops are just out to fuck over the average citizen.

Hell, just TODAY, the county sheriff put out a statement that in which he said "Machetes are not an illegal weapon, they are a working tool. Anybody caught with a machete and who is PROVEN beyond reasonable doubt to use it for illegal purposes shall be released after 36 hours"

You guys, don't take for granted your right to bear arms back home, ffs

>>33903353

Then you're fucked, getting into an untrained fight with a dude who's carrying a machete is a losing prospect.

>>33903406
Carry a pike with you lad?
are you daft or a women I cant tell?
Also grab your self a shield, brother.

>>33903353
i would honestly consider finishing up in that hellhole at the end of this semester

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>>33899571
Car hoods are usually made of automotive aluminum and is relatively easy to penetrate with a lot of bladed weapons/nearly anything with a pointed end.
Use these if you want to go full 'tism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJey1RAgROs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BI0ZO5EsUU
You should be trying to grab the machete and defending with your forearm. If you'd like to go more incognito, wear a pair of gloves over it and a long sleeve shirt.
You should also get a baton or machete or something of your own to make you a harder target.

>>33903353
Get a machete of your own, then. Train with it, get skilled with the blade.

>>33903278
Did accidentally reply to me, or are you too stupid to comprehend English?

>>33903279
Nigga, at least you don't actually lose an arm and a leg to college debt,

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>>33899533
chainmail under your jacket

make sure it's riveted, not butted

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>>33901593
You can own larger calibers if you join a gun club.

The shop you're thinking of is the DCAM in Mexico City. It's run by the army.

>>33903353
OP, After watching enough machete attack vids, I think your most important weapon is head on a swivel at all time- the only ones making out of these things unscathed are the smart and fast fuckers that notice whats about to happen first, and just book it for the other door.
Anything else is just going to slow your fat ass down.

>>33899279
*BLOCKS YOUR PATH*

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>>33902732
fold some newspapers 3-4 times until they are thick 2-3cm, and use a knife to cut and stab it, you will know.
you can try this at home.
yes, paper will broken but can stop the blade's power to proof serious injury.
or just use magazine book.

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>>33899279
if you have money, Buy some knife proof cut-resistant item.especially gloves.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MXUHHGK/
NoCry Cut Resistant Gloves

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B9UDUG/
G & F 58126 100% Kevlar 18-Inch Cut Resistant Knit Sleeve

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>>33903353
Machete type blades are legal tool in almost all country.
Even Japan. the guy in the picture kill 4 people with just a knife in Japan.
Seriously, even a small axe or kitchen knife can be a deadly weapon. And a baseball bat can be deadly as the same.
So prepare to self-defense from melee weapons is a real thing in any country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJldHu-et7c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVmvUC95qt0

>>33903353
Get your own machete or a bat/baton. Fuck everyone suggestion homemade shit. Can you get pepperspray or a taser? Ranged weapons will give you an advantage, even if it' snot a gun

>>33899548
Someone doesn't know Mexican gun law...

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>>33906135
I don't know USA or Mexico law, but in my country, kill somebody in a street fight is not a good idea.
It can make you go to jail, just like somebody kill you will make him go to jail .
So get some body armor and a big stick for home-defense like a RIOT POLICE police really make sense in my country.
Usually you can not kill a attacker, but you can break his bones.

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>>33899279
>>33906730
Usually, just have equipments like this in home, are legal in almost all country.
In the country where you can own guns or swords, Body armor and BLUNT weapons really make sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOMWhb8bTZ0

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is this worth it?

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FT408016

A gun https://youtu.be/f_2XRZTuf0Y

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>>33906765
>> In the country where you can own guns or swords,

I mean somewhere you can not use guns or swords to kill a attacker.
Sorry for my poor English.
Seriously, every /k/ who live in somewhere you can use guns and swords, need to get a baseball bat and helmet for home-defense at least.

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>>33906769
Cold Steel buckler is cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/2009948-Cold-Steel-Medieval-Buckler/dp/B006YBXYYS

Training Rubber swords are blunt weapons, too.

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>>33906827

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>>33906802
Baseball bats and Tonfa batons are best sellers in 2011 England riots.

Fire with fire.
Get a arming sword and a shield