Shotgun General- /scg/

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My scatological gats.

I do everything with the vepr12 pretty much myself. It checks all your boxes except for it's not super light I guess.

>>33898799
I was trying to talk myself out of the VEPR considering it has sights that are shitty for clays :(

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>>33898767
>Shotgun General
>posts a 40mm Grenade Launcher
>"b-b-buh muh canister cartridges!"
MFW

>>33898819
You can tell its airsoft from the holes in front of the canisters, that was the joke.

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>>33898815
I do better with my vepr12 than any of my pumps. I know it seems like it should suck, but it's not how you'd think since most of shooting is reflex and instinct anyway. I can normally hang at about 21-23 out of 25. Usually 23 though.

>>33898767
I want a side by side. Is the stoeger uplander any good?

>>33898869

How many shots to kill 1 racoon? Embarrassing.

>>33898869

anon that is bad people stuff

>>33898869
>beanbaground.mp4

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>>33898917
It only took the first one to fatally wound him, but as many as I feel like. Coons are tough as nails, but he was down for the count for sure after the first 3, then it was just mercy shots.
>>33898943
I don't do it just for fun, they're tough on pheasant eggs and are a nuisance in the sheds. I'm normally a live and let live guy. But if I'm going to do it, I'm going to catch a cool video.

>>33898889
I love mine, it's the .410 version. Admittedly I don't have many rounds through it.

>>33898832
Watermark too, craft apple works makes fancy quality airsoft things

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>>33898974

Its not cool, you suck at shooting, this would be like uploading a video of you dying in super mario 3d to /v/.

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>>33898917
>mfw he's using practice bird loads

>>33899102
Whatever man, stay mad.
>>33898970
>>33899146
It's birdshot that practically stays in one super tight clump within 10 yards through the x-full. Up as close as I was, I figured I'd give it a try since it's so nasty on other stuff I hit with it. Cuts smaller trees right down, that'd never happen with other loads.

>>33899006
I'm not saying I wouldn't buy it for shits and giggles...

>>33898974
It seems like there must be a more efficient way to do this.

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>>33902679
I could have used buckshot or a slug, but I wanted to try this out and it worked fine as far as I'm concerned. It pretty much worked just as expected with the 3/4oz concentrated shot clumps tearing him up to the extremes if you were there to see it up close.
Of course I could just clock it in the head with a 22cal pellet gun right inside the trap as it stares at me. Their skull is about the only soft spot on them. But there's no fun in that. If I'm going to kill something, I'm at least going to make it interesting to watch since I have a eyeglass camera.

>>33902826
Fuck that is a stupendous reaction image waiting to be made

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>>33898799
Crescent 410 on the bottom? My favorite small game gun

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This is what it's come down to here in Australia. Bolt action shotguns are becoming more popular

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>>33902872
The next shotgun on my list is actually a 22cal birdshot gun.
Using that stuff out of a rifled gun = hopeless patterns at 3 feet.
With a smooth bore 22, I've knocked clays out of the air with a friend's gun at a skeet range.
Night and day difference.

>>33902872
I had this too, the Victor 410, awesome gun. When I was a kid I would pull the slugs out of shells and load arrows with barbed tips in them. Used it as a harpoon gun to shoot carp, fun shit. I made so many homemade shells. Shot a rabbit with a cluster of toothpick flechets, actually killed the guy somehow

>>33898799
I'm a big guy, will the vepr be too short for trap? As of now an unmodded wing master is a bit short
>inb4 baneposting

>>33903068
Sounds fun as shit, even if I get the VEPR im totally getting a single/double for fuckery

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The "Ga" in "12Ga" stands for gang bang.

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>looking at shotguns online
>see nice 870 tactical w/extras for $300~
>message guy
>"sorry anon it just sold"
>ok.
>mfw I see the exact gun in the same setup for $100 more the next day, with new pics from the new owner.

Should I call atf or what.

>>33898799
You need one of the 4-5 bottom ejectors and a SxS now

>>33905147
Say you'll buy it for 100 dollars less

>>33899171
Birdshot is too small, man. Use turkey loads or something, racoon are big fuckers and have thick skin.

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How would the vepr perform at trap if I have very long arms?

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>>33898767
Sexiest shotgun coming through

>tfw they fucked up the first batch of guns and became a laughing stock

Is this a better choice than the vepr

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>>33898767
Best option is handle a bunch of shotguns. Almost any shotgun fits your criteria, you want one that fits you. Best case try a bunch out, you'll probably find one you shoot more naturally. Second best is handle a bunch and pick the one that feels right. This boils down to "stock dimensions are actually hella complicated" and trial and error is your best answer.

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These are my shotguns; Ithaca 37 Featherlight and Dominion Outlaw.
Took 'em out back on Sunday, and the Ithaca worked like a dream. Outlaw has issues opening after firing, but the struggle's worth it to fire both barrels with 000 buck.

>>33898974
>Coons are tough as nails
Fucking this. I nailed one with a perfect chest shot using a .17HMR and he still ran about 25 yards before keeling over. When I examined the body his entire chest cavity was basically blown out, including the heart. I have NO idea how that animal managed to move at all, let alone scramble 25 yards.

Is an old ww2 model 12 good for a fun gun?

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>>33907785
Better off getting a stoeger and modding it to shit

>>33907691
I second this question

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Bump with my baby, finally threw a pussy pad on it and it's infinitely nicer to shoot.

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My Greener GP

>>33898974
>>33902826
ya fuckin cunt

>>33908860
>peta detected

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Savage 69RXL. Shoots great. The pump has a lot of play though. If I hold the pump back for comfort, I have to hold it forward before cycling or it won't budge. No complaints otherwise. Say, do you guys know any way to tighten the pump's action? Thanks.

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>>33898767
590a1
-wolff mag spring, hi-vis aluminum follower, xs big dot sight, sga buttstock, soe gear sidesaddles (the velcro system works very well, the elastic doesnt retain shells effectively...i have three of these that ive rigged with rubber bands for the needed retention), soe bungie sling

and an 'eh' paintjob

>>33907824
>fire both barrels with 000 buck
keep up the good work

>>33904523
best remington setup comin through

>>33908806
Beautiful gun anon

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>>33898832

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Stoeger m3000
Or
Beretta a300
for a long armed niqqa trap shooting

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>>33909023
how is that not considered a machine gun? one trigger pull would fire more than one shot right? isnt that the definition of a machine gun?

>>33909008
Thanks, picked it up in January for £80.
really fun for shooting clay and gets plenty of intrigued looks at the range

>>33909086
that would make the glock 18 a machine-gun.

>>33898799
whatever that pump hammergun is it's absolutely gorgeous

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>>33898767
my saiga 12

thinking about selling it, because I'm only allowed to shoot fucking clays with it
there is only one"shotgun range" near me, sadly
and I have to pay fucking 24€ per hour there

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>>33909120
the glock 18 is a machine gun

>>33909416
i thought it was a grenade
now i'm confused

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I went to a gun auction Saturday where I saw and held the most disgusting shotgun I have ever had the displeasure of knowing existed.

It was called a Jing Ma PH12-1 over under, and it said "Mand In China" on the side. The action itself was almost impossible to break, and I can only imagine what it'd be like to break open after actually shooting the fucking thing. While trying to break it open, the handguard moved a little. The handguard itself was attached using 2 flathead screws. At the end of the barrels there was a little piece of steel haphazardly welded onto the two barrels and connected to nothing else, that I can only assume was there to keep the barrels from flying apart (never fucking seen that before). Some idiot ended up buying the piece of shit for $170 without even handling it.

I did some investigating into the company, Jing Ma, and much like how Norinco is owned by the Chinese military, Jing Ma was owned by the Chinese federal police. Jing Ma was kicked out of the United States a few decades ago by the ATF for trying to sell full-auto Korean AKs to Americans.

On another topic, what is the most recent model year of 500/870 you'd consider buying?

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>>33909862

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>>33909086
iirc volley fire is different than a machine gun, so if all the bullets fire at the same moment it's legal.
Don't quote me on that though.

>>33910296
Just in: glocks now require a DD stamp

Is there an O/U shotgun with two triggers not made in turkey? 12 or 20 doesnt really matter. Two triggers is what i was raised on and just feels better imo.

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>>33908924
Bruised my shoulder when I did it, but it wasn't as painful as I thought it would be.

>>33905147
Can you explain to me what the crime is there?

>>33909209

>1
>2
>3
>4
>Canada

>>33911357
If youre not an ffl you arent suppose to buy guns just to sell them for a profit.

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>>33911383
sounds like you're just a little butthurt anon

>>33911442
Nah man, im a different anon. He asked whats the crime is, i think its stupid and next to impossible to prove but i answered his question.

>>33898767
okay lads I got a $150 Chinese shotgun I wanna doll up. Any of you fine upstanding citizens have a 12ga stencil?

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>>33908586
good,...now chop it down

>>33909086
It's considered a destructive devise. In the US you can legally obtain destructive devises through the proper channels.

>>33909416 glock 18 is classified as a
machine pistol.
>>33909862
The shell is fired from a grenade launcher

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I've become interested in potentially picking up a Stevens 320, and I've heard that it's a Winchester 1300 clone and, as such, can use parts from it. Is this true?

>>33908893
That's pretty neat

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Pretty excited /k/. I ordered pic related today. Found it for 369.

>>33914495
Neat

>>33914495
My LGS got 30 in on the 1st and had sold 20 of those by the 6th @ $400/ea.

Apparently they're rather popular.

What's the weirdest load you have seen or have hear of being fired? I had a friend who loaded twenty gauge shells with rust he'd powder with a mortar and pestle. Past a couple feet they were worthless, but there's nothing better for vaporizing watermelons up close.

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>>33903733
You couldnt be anymore obvious

>>33914906
well, a buddy does all kinds of shit.
>magnesium slugs
>bundles of razor blades
>ballbearings mixed with steel bb's
the worst i've seen is powdered glass. he keeps that by his bedside in a shortened over under. imagine 2 loads worth of glass shards entereing your body.

>>33915253
Those are all laughably anemic. Powdered glass you may as well just rub insulation on them.

>>33915253
Honestly sounds like you'd get in heaps of trouble for firing powdered glass into someone's eyes vs just blowing a hole in it.
>>33914846

Yeah I've been looking online for days and found a site with 11 in stock. Everywhere else was sold out or wanted 450-500 on jewbroker.

>>33914906
I did Ritz crackers once. It smelled funny and made a damn mess

>>33915289
if it breaks the skin, its never coming out and its going to introduce thousands of tiny shards of glass damaging your internals.

>>33908586
I have the same setup with a pad. Now you can shoot 3" and have a hearty laugh.

>>33913431
Were I a leaf, I would. Luckily I'm a burger, but unfortunately for us you have to be 21 and pay a $200 fun fee to do so.

>>33907824
i assume canadabro?
are those outlaws discontinued on canadaammo or did the RCMP do a crackdown on them?
only ones i can find are either broken or $600

>>33915477
This.

It is also a major problem for ER as it doesnt show on an xray

>>33915477
glass is very light for the surface of flakes very bad ballistic performance. why do you thing lead balls are the standard? minimal surface to maximal mass whule convenient and cheap. glass is shit.

>>33915239
:(
Just looking for advice

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>>33917462
They're now under the name of "Norinco JW2000". Same gun, basically, though my Outlaw I got used at a gun show for about 250 syrup credits.

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>>33918635
Too bad these are a no-no in burgerland

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Is this a meme shotgun? Or just faux scifi bullshit?

>>33902826
>Not killing it as fast as possible and instead opting to get entertainment out of the kill because "muh googul glasses"
KYS. Preferrably with 5-6 poorly placed shells of bird shot

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>>33919338

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>>33919346

>>33919338
>>33919356

>Supressor on a shotgun

Are you an assassin? Theres no reason for this.

>>33898767
Any decent pump-action shotgun for beginners (to shotguns) outside of 500/870?

>>33919373

You know that shotguns are loud, right?

So having it be NOT that is great.

>Still looks way too heavy for a six shot gun, though.

>>33909209

Having an unconverted Saiga is a sin.

You SHOULD sell it.

>>33919338
>>33919346
>>33919356
Some Deus Ex shit right there. But why rotating barrel and not magazine?
Also
>Bullpup skatty
not_sure_if_want.jpg

>>33919574

I'm okay with bullpup cause it's sexy, and the chamber MIGHT be easier to reload on the fly with specialty shells.

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>>33919051
I don't really understand some Burgerland laws... A sawn of double barrel or rifle under a certain length is a no-no but pic related is OK?

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>>33919339
It was mere seconds, calm down. It would have barely made a difference at best, that's a quick death.
Better than letting my dog find them first, and listening to them do their "racoon scream" for 5-10+ minutes as he slowly kills them. Horrifying to be honest.

>>33919627
They all require tax stamps. The super shortys require a 5 dollar any other weapon stamp. Sbr's and sbs's require a 200 dollar stamp.

>>33898869
Low class piece of shit! Kill a animal like that? Big gunner!

>>33911374
Because Canada doesn't use an iteration of the dollar

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>>33919627
Canadian laws are just as dumb; I can get a VZ58 as a non-restricted, but AR15s and a legit Kalashnikov are restricted and prohibited respectively?

>>33920028
The story goes in Canada when they went to ban stuff by name they just thumbed through a catalog and circled anything that looked too scary.

>>33919373
Shareblue back to /pol/ plz this isn't the board for you

>>33907713
bunch of plastic garbage just use it to kill yourself

>>33907713
>mfw sexy but shit

Should I try to get a model 12, or a poorfag-tier o/u like stoeger?
I'm not going to shoot the hell out of whatever I get, but I kinda want a shotgun.
Does the model 1897 take down like model 12's do?

>>33920662
Pipe gun

>>33919338
>>33919346
>>33919356
i dig the six-12
i cant conceive of a use for it that standard pumpguns cant fill
..really cool action, looks like FUN

>>33909039
Fellow long armed niqqa here, I've got a M3500, it fits fine and I like the overall size of the gun, it does have a decent beak in period where you will have issues cycling lighter 2 3/4 dram target loads, so just use three dram for the first 10 boxes or so. After that, I can go through around 8-9 boxes of the lighter stuff before it needs to be cleaned, your best bet is to try and find someone who just bought one and can't get it to cycle due to light loads, I've got a second one that I was able to offer the guy 300$ cash for since he couldn't get it to feed at the range.

>>33898889>>33899002
ive got a 410 version and i love it.
regulation is 40 yards and shots slugs right next to each other at 50 yards about 8 inches apart at 100

>>33916287
I paid my fun tax. Canada to my understanding must have their SBS made short from the factory.

>>33922532
I'm not sure if it's worth the extra for the 3500 vs 3000

>>33898767
Do they have famas in 12ga?

>>33907713

I was really fucking impressed with my buddy's UTS. Damn good gun. We put 800+ rounds through it without a single hangup.

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>>33908586

I JUST got mine, what kind of pad did you get? Screw on? Slip on? Can you provide pics?

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Upgraded the follower to milled aluminum, upgraded the extractor to forged steel instead of MIM, upgraded the carrier dog spring to a heaver and more positive spring.

All for about $50 to make basically a police 870 for way less than a factory one.

>>33923199
If you plan on hunting, the 3500 couldn't hurt, the extra powder you get is nice for steel shot when it's needed for waterfowl, otherwise there's really no reason, and even then you can do just fine with 3" shells.

>>33915477
>years of discomfort and scar tissue
Vs
>death

Yeah I'll stick with the buckshot and minor civil lawsuit at worst as opposed to being destroyed in court for shooting someone with glass

>>33898767
Thinking of picking up a maverick 88 combo with 18.5" and 26" barrels. What am I in for?

>>33924055
a lifetime of love and protection. and the ability to take any animal in North America inside about 80 yards with relative precision.

>>33924333
thanks anon, desu not a big fan of synthetic but its cheaper than a 500.

>>33924360

Another /k/ommando here. Fucking love my 88. I shoot it more than my 590 and Ithica. It's earned it's scratches and I've polished it up to be WAY smoother than my other scattergats.