Fuck the Mainstream Media

>>33896785
What's the purpose of this thread?

>>33896792
to inform that the german media hates the armed forces and that that further radicalises the army

who the fuck cares about germany

just collapse already

>>33896799

who cares? this isn't about guns.

>>33896792
There was a barracks that had "Wermacht memorabilia" on display and it caused a bit of controversy.

The catch is that there was nothing illegal about any of it. No Swastikas or anything like that, just some old helmets and a P-38 and stuff.

>>33896804
I thought /k/ is about military in general

>>33896806
and Franco A. caused a massive flood of articles about how radical the army really is

>>33896799
being critical of a government institution isn't a bad thing. It should be critical if the rumors of Nazi groups being in the military are true.

>>33896785
they should provide more memorabilia instead of radicalizing them with mocking cartoons

>>33896815
I am guessing that most soldiers are right wing and do not support the refugee policy. Thats why they are target of mockery.

Also, liberal germans love to shit on the military. Persons like Franco A. give the anti military another reason to cut spending etc.

>>33896814
Well they did have an incident where some officer was planning a false-flag attack to defame Syrian refugees*.

>>33896807

So you can't fucking read?

>>33896826
>Thats why they are target of mockery.
No, this is making fun of units with Nazi memorabilia. That's why they are the target of mockery. You dumb fucking inbred scum.

>>33896824
Right. Such mockery will prop lead to further extremism. I wouldnt be surprised if many soldiers secretly wish for a coup.

itt welfare queen baby-killers whine about not getting enough respect

>>33896827
thats Franco A., with him all started

>>33896830
Sorry, didnt read the sticky, Im more here for the discussions about military.

>>33896831
Nice ad hominem.
The troops are always under attack. Right now the articles are flooding my facebook about how right wing the Army really is, it does not only focus on a few divisions.
The Army has some usage of Wehrmacht signs and names but in my opinion that is justified. You cannot just disregard the heroes of the past just because they fought under a bad regime.

>>33896837
Im not in the armed forces lad

>>33896799
>post a single satirical cartoon from one newspaper
>WAAAAAH, MEDIA HATE DA MILITARY
You sound like a hormonal teenager.

>>33896853
I already said that the msm is constantly mocking the military in articles.

>>33896855
So? Have they hurt your fee fees?
I'm sorry that they're free to mock what they want, you're pathetic.

>>33896860
this tee be haych

>>33896844
Military is allowed on /k/, hence why we have operator threads, /meg/, etc. The board rule on /k/ is very vague with just the global rules reinforcing the rest. There is no rule stating that discussion relating with the military isn't allowed or board related:
>All weaponry is welcome. Military vehicles/knives/other weapons are included, this board isn't just for firearms!

>>33896832
Drawing cartoons seems to be a big deal recently.
Lets have our poor bebis play with their nazi toys, else they become radical.

>>33896860
I dont think you get what that means.

I dont want to silence them or restrict them, that is not my point.
my point is that there is already low moral in the military due to general despise for them in the population, low funding etc.
So now the military is further mocked and strawmaned, essentially sending them into the AFD corner.
What do you think will happen when shit hits the fan? The soldiers will remember who fucked with them.

>>33896865
The discussion isn't about the military, it's about Der Spiegel showing a cartoon satirising the German military that has OP all booty blasted.

It's /pol/ at best, go fuck yourself OP.

>>33896832
If someone is going to chimp out because they were made fun of, then they were pieces of shit to begin with

>>33896865
thanks for clarification.

>>33896868
see>>33896879

>>33896785
>Swasticam
I like it honestly. If we ever get automated fabric production on demand, there'sll be tons of stuff like this.

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>>33896882
yeah I am so triggered by Der Spiegel

>>33896879
>When shit hits the fan
Opinion discarded.
They'll do their fucking job like they're paid to do.
I don't piss my pants and throw a bitch fit everytime a member of the public acts like a dick to me at my job, it's no different.
>>33896865
>All weaponry is welcome
>WEAPONRY
That's the keyword dipshit, fuck off.

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>>33896785
Good.
Germans cannot be trusted with a military.
They hurt others and themselves.

>>33896785
But why?

>>33896826
What makes you think that most soldiers are right-wing? Do you know all of them? Do you know their thoughts on the refugee crisis? As >>33896831 said, they're being mocked because they habe Nazi stuff, which is a legit reason to do so. They're like those people that come to gun shows with shit tons of Nazi stuff but don't less it. If it looks and smells like a Nazi, well...

>>33896844
>>33896855
If if incidents like this are happening, they have every right to be (even if they weren't happening, freedom of the press).
>my point is that there is already low moral in the military due to general despise for them in the population, low funding etc.
That's a domestic issue then to be worked out by recruiters, PR and the budget.
>So now the military is further mocked and strawmaned, essentially sending them into the AFD corner.
They deserve it if actual Nazis are populating the ranks, fuck them. And no, nobody is being sent into the AFD corner, they've been falling like a rock membership wise for the past 3 years. People are fed up with them and their bullshit.
>What do you think will happen when shit hits the fan? The soldiers will remember who fucked with them.
They sound like 15 years old girls then.

>>33896897
I simply disagree.
I see that your perspective is very materialistic. Sure, some will just fight for money and dont care, but come on. I am that idealistic that I believe that some of them want to protect the country and generally feel patriotic for Germany.
I cant imagine that these people will fight for the stablishment when all they get is bad funding, mockery while the only parties that respect them are center right and Afd.

Dozens of muslim "german" soldiers went to fight with ISIS, but clearly a lone wolf with a failed plan and some wehraboos are the real problem with the german army. That's german media for you.

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>>33896879
Public opinion isn't too bad, most people don't care either way; it's just that most people don't openly support the military, but the amount of people who oppose the military are just a loud minority.
Everbody in the military knows that there are people out there who love to hate the military, and frankly I don't think they care about their opinion to begin with.

I don't believe that the current affair is going to change anything in the long run anyway. The people who are dumb enough to draw swastikas on barrack grounds because of footbal games of all the things will always be sorted out and anybody with half a brain will now hide the iron cross his grandfather got for gassing 6 million jews for a few weeks before putting it back up once the storm has blown over. The people who didn't care before probably won't care now.
It isn't really a secret that the military does not tend to attract a whole lot of progressives and anti-facists.

>>33896929
Or how about... both are bad

>>33896924
Fine, quite the military if you don't like it, it's pretty fucking simple. If they can't take newspapers talking shit, then maybe the military isn't for them.
And expecting someone to do the job they're being paid to do isn't materialistic.

>>33896961
*quit

>>33896913
Look at these posts >>33896879
>>33896915
>>33896924
>>33896929
a few different point of views


>>33896915
Miliarism is generally a right wing idea, while most pacifists are leftiies.
Also the people who join the military come mostly from lower classes and the higher ranks are from more educated fields.
Lower classes/education generally vote more right wing.
The educated people there face mockery and weird comments if you could also study something ""decent"" as they say here so you they are prop kinda idealistic about it. Therefore also more prone to right wing since in leftism the military is more looked down upon.

Again, only a few people there had nazi stuff. Its more the Wehrmacht stuff thats prevelant there and in my opinion having your baracks called Kurt Knispel or something like that isnt really a problem. You cannot forget your past and demonize every soldier under a specific regime. The Russians dont do it either.

Low moral still contributes to general hatred of the leadership.

There was only one incident of a "Nazi" in the military.

The military is under general suspicion being a nazi organisation while there was only one incident. I dont see how this is justified

>>33896945
The public opinon I can only draw from my environment and articles online, so there you are maybe right, I cant prove that with facts.

>>33896799
>further radicalises the army
Lmao what? Do modern Germans even have enough national pride to care about their military service anymore? I'm sure some do but the younger German generation seems so scared of the Nazi Boogeyman than the military isn't much more than just a job to them.

>>33896961
I am not in the armed forces.
And its not only the newspapers, they are just a symptom of the general overtone/opinion of the higher classes about the military.

Well, I do think it is materialistic when being in the military. People risk their life for more than money.

>>33896984
I don't see why you should be taking up bandwidth with your bitching, post this shit to Das Facebook, Hanz.

>>33896989
The army doesnt have military service anymore.

>>33896999
Well, it seems some people are interested. You can just hide this thread if you dont want to see it.

If I post this to facebook the Stasi may want to talk to me

>>33896997
>People risk their life for more than money
Fine, that's up to them, but that wasnt what I was talking about.
You implied that they'd not do their job because people are saying mean things about them. I pointed out that tough, they chose to do a job, they're being paidntonfonit and if they're unhappy they should just quit.

Otherwise, you just seem to be moaning that people don't agree with you, this isn't Facebook, take it somewhere else.

>>33897009
ree ree everyone from this website has to be a nazi like me

>>33896897
Yet threads that focus on wars and its politics, the users behind the weapon, military enlistment generals and overall gear faggotry is a constant element in this board. In other words, a subtopic of this board's main idea. Military culture, politics, and so on go hand in hand with weapons, regardless of the age and era. Since those threads regarding said subtopics aren't deleted or deemed offtopic by the mods, they're allowed to continue to exist on this board whether you like it or not.

>>33897008
No, fuck off, you're shitting up the board.

>>33896984
>Miliarism is generally a right wing idea, while most pacifists are leftiies.
The USSR and the Warsaw Pact beg to differ.
>Also the people who join the military come mostly from lower classes and the higher ranks are from more educated fields.
Have you ever interacted with anybody from the military?
>Lower classes/education generally vote more right wing.
So do rich people with high education levels.
>The educated people there face mockery and weird comments if you could also study something ""decent"" as they say here so you they are prop kinda idealistic about it. Therefore also more prone to right wing since in leftism the military is more looked down upon.
Once again, have you ever met anybody in the military? This is ridiculous.
>You cannot forget your past and demonize every soldier under a specific regime.
When that regime supports murdering millions because of perceived differences, yeah you certainly can demonize them.

>>33897009

jesus this is first-year shitposting.

Hey why are you so triggered alty righty whiny

>>33897057
Don't bully, this is all he has.

>>33897009
>Starts a thread complaining about people's opinions that he doesn't agree with
>Accuses everyone who doesn't agree with him of being Redditors
The irony is palpable.

>>33897043
Problem is, those threads are interesting, whereas 'wah wah I don't like what newspapers say about the German army (even if it's true in cases)' isn't interesting.
Fuck off.

>>33897033
I get your point.
But I see it this way. The people in the armed forces generally like being in the military and will stay in there even if they are mocked etc.
But, you see, in Germany they throw now a tantrum because of shit from the Wehrmacht and a dude who wanted to act as a refugee and do a false flag.
When a muslim makes an attack its not all muslims, when one dude from the military does this, its all soliders are nazis.

>>33897045
kys

>>33897049
Im talking about modern leftism/liberalism. You cannot say that modern german leftists are militarists.

What are you talking about?
All voting stats say lower class people vote more right wing, there is a whole book about this by Christian Baron.

And in my environment you get mocked if you want to join the army with a matura/diploma/abitur. They say you waste it.

And I am not saying that the regime isnt horrible. I say its not wrong to idealize certain soldiers from that time. The russians also do it with general zkukov.

>>33897081
I didnt post that

>>33897086
man this comic is just a symptome of a general trend. Read my posts or fuck off. If I am so wrong then argue with me, I am not an idiot so I can change my mind.

>>33896785
>mocks the armed forces with this pic

/k/ mocks the German military all the time. So does the entire internet.

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>>33897081
Except I'm not OP friend. But I agree with you, those evil white males should be castrated and replaced with nice brown gentleman to outbreed them and replace their population.

>drafted
>end up with paratroopers
>mp40s and lugers in offices
>landing on crete still seen as heritage
Noone gave a damn back then and noone gives a damn now

>>33896785
When's Germany gonna fuck off and stop meddling with Europe?

>>33897009
>first post says you're supposed to criticize government institutions and agencies
>reddit
They're like the greatest statist nuthuggers online.

>>33897111
Wasn't the landing on Crete an embarrassing fuckup though?

>>33897127
yep, weapons and soliders dropping seperately wasnt a good idea.

>>33897127
Biggest german airborne operation. high casualties but successful none the less

>>33897127
They got btfo by farmers with pitchforks.

>>33897099
>man this comic is just a symptome of a general trend.

But instead of having the armed forces try to stop sucking arse, or getting some PR dude to show the public they don't suck arse, let's just shoot the messenger. Because those media fuckers just aren't reporting what you KNOW is the truth, and if it weren't for them you'd totally have a girlfriend. A really hot one.

>>33897202
autist

>>33896879
just start making some cute German cartoons about the military and tanks and stuff like Japan did to bring Morale back up.

>>33897102
I think you crave black cock desu


>>33896785
>wahh wahh this caricature made my feefees hurt pls say im a good boy k pls waah wahhh

you are worse than sjws

>>33896785

Who cares about Germany?

>waaaaaah
>the media said something I don't like!
>they don't agree with me so they're EVIL and FAKE NEWS
>waaaaah why isn't everyone a statist bootlicker like me

>>33896785
I thought showing swastikas was forbidden in Germany?

>>33896799
>radicalises the army
If shitty cartoons are enough to radicalise your army, you have a piss poor army.

>>33896879
>>33896860
>>33896855
>>33896799
>Wahhh wahh eveil newspaper lives with freedom of speech and makes silly cartoon of militaryman, the military is gonna kill the population because those cartoons hurt.their feefees!!!!

I wonder how much you would whine after watching a south park or family guy episode, those would make you die by triggering if a simple caricature makes you this assmad

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>>33896837
show us on the dolly where the recruiter touched you

>>33896785
What does "Is was" mean?
And yes, newspapers are hilariously out of touch pieces of shit, everyone knows that.

>>33898875
yeah, fucking newspapers dont even support nazis lmao

>>33898975
Nigger the point is the Bundeswehr is already in the shitter with a fucked budget, most of their equipment at low readiness (if at all, most of their shit is mothballed), and most krauts don't care for them. They're down to using broomsticks instead of mgs during NATO exercises, and have no heavy lift capability and have to rely on the US for that. The last thing they need right now is negative press from a populace that already hates them.

>>33896897
>my job

Doubt you have one.

>>33896785

And now watch the shills come out and try to pretend there is a shred of pro-EU sentiment on /k/ or that they're just concerned citizens protecting the rules.

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>>33896853
>accuses anon of being a hormonal teenager
>while getting butthurt and strawmanning the conversation

Your lack of self-awareness is glaring.

>>33896831
I have a k98 with an nazi eagle stamp. Should I be a target of mockery?

>>33897202

There is nothing wrong with having national pride...oh wait, what's this?

>arse

You're from a cucked nogunz country, aren't you?

>>33898387
Not if it's "art".

>>33898578

The Spiegel was always a military-hating, left-wing shitty newspaper. The whole affair around Franco A.(missed it, luckily) is water on the mills of the socialists.

>>33896832
Well, they stopped drawing muhammad...

>>33898318
Als ob jeder hier deutsch verstehen würde, du sesselreiter

>>33898875
"Is was" means something like: "Is there something?"/"What are you looking at?"

>>33899123
Based on what exactly?
>>33899148
>Strawmanning
I don't think you understand what the word means friend.

>>33896785

Welcome to post ww2 german sentiment regarding the Bundeswehr. Germany lost it's martial pride after the second world war and is a shadow of it's former self despite being the economic powerhouse of the EU. Guess that's what you fucking get when you lose a war, go full knee jerk left since then, and apologize for every little thing committed during the war.

>>33896806
>P-38 controversy
Is Lupin III banned in Germany?

>>33899999
If you would see the markings, I think it would be.

>>33899999
Thread officially derailed by get.

>>33896785
>German newspaper "Der Spiegel" mocks the armed forces

Everyone and their mom mocks the Bundeswehr.
As they should, they're a fucking joke.

>>33898642

how do you get dq'd from meps, you can just lie about everything

>>33896785
Where can I get a full aryantarn uniform like they're wearing? I'll pay $14.88 plus shipping.

>>33899643
you are a bitch

>>33900078
>derailed
>literally the only one who cares

>>33897045
Shut the fuck up, this is more interesting than your stupid autistic beef over whether this belongs in /k/ or not.

>>33896804
THIS THIS THIS gtfo off my board naziSHITS stop defending your right wing nutjob brothers

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>>33896785

>>33896989
>being proud of leaching off tax dollars and fighting for Goldman Sachs

>>33901563
>actually writing "n word"

>>33901563
Filthy fucking communist scum

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Donut cur. Let them do nazi shit.

>>33901563
>n-word
Go back to /leftypol/ or reddit, that strawman is on a whole new level. A guy wants to bitch about the armed forces of his homeland being mistreated by the craven populace, its sad. Being upset about it doesn't make you a Nazi.

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>>33901563
>neo-feudalist
>tfw you hate both communist leeches and edgy LARPing fascists

>>33901563
>>33901634
>>33901654
>>33901688

Just because your dedicated shitposting thread got deleted doesn't mean you have to move on to the next one.

You have to go back.

>>33896855
I will never take people who use "MSM" seriously.

Considering that abbreviation was first used within the gay community to call straight-acting homosexual men.

w2c that swastikamo tho

>>33896804
>>33896792
>>33896802
No one cares what you think