Arisaka

>>33890705
Yes bubba did that, Might be a good project gun if you ever find a nice Intact Arisaka with no mum

Is it worth the $199?

>>33890772
Fuck no

>>33890772

It would cost at least that much to restore it to
(near) original condition and will never be worth original condition. Tell us about the Enfield and Norinco SKS.

They have atleast 8 SKS here. Ranging from 450 to 850. I'll look at the Enfield later

>>33890846

NO.

as a syrup fag I spent $200 on an sks and it is the most overprices piece of shit ever known to man.

i'd take a bubba arisaka any day.. I think some yanks converted them to 30.06 after the war.

>>33890772
Talk them down to $150 because of the obvious altered sights and cut up stock. It can be done. Not every day you'd be able to buy one with a full mum for that low. Now buying all the rest of the trim to get it in proper order will cost a bit more than just getting one already true and not fucked, but where's the fun in that?

>>33890732
>Argie 1891 Mauser
>3 P.14/M1917s
>Gew.88
>SMLE Mk.III
>more >>33890716 'surp butts

Why can't my Cabela's have this much? What do they want for those?

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>>33890897
>$850
What the fuck

>>33890897
holy fuck.
I knew they were getting up there in price, but damn.

>>33890960
I don't know what makes that one so expensive. Missing bayonet too. The others there are around 4-500 bux

>>33890897
>Norinko

>>33890897
>used chink sks costs hundreds more than a brand new mid grade AR-15

what a time to be alive

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>>33890897
>850

>>33890897
Literally laughed out loud at that price. Also a former Cabela's employee, never buy guns from them, they are way over priced.

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>>33890705
>find an M1903A3 in store
>on the edge of falling to pieces
>not sporterized
>fucking godawful aftermarket sights though
> $750
>'custom' on tag
>mfw

>>33891133
You win some you lose some. I found a 1903 with just a butchered stock for $300.

>>33890732
>Norinco SKS 16" bbl
>20" model

My brother bought a 8mm Lebel Berthier M16 marked "Italian Carcano, 6.5, $200"

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>>33890897
HA HA

holy shit, anyone can get a "very good" condition Yugo for $350

>>33890772
No.

>>33890868
>Talk them down

can you even do that at cabelas?

>>33891102
As somebody who used to buy and sell guns on those racks, there's always a chance of a gem in the rough. but, ultimately it's meant to take the money from idiots. the can see all their old sales and if something sold for more than market value they'll try for that first. If it hangs out for like 8 months then they'll start to lower the price. but cabelas can afford to sit on something till some overpaid idiot shells out for it.

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>>33891133
That'll happen. Picked up these two from Cabela's. $750 for the 1903, and $400 for the No.4. They do have good deals, but they go fast and the guns they paid too much for stick around.

>>33891320
Depends on the gun and who you talk to. If you're nice and not a prick I'll work with you.

>Gun Library employee.

>>33891320
I do it all the time for milsurp. Usually the highschool snot behind the counter gets the manager and I point out all the shit wrong with it and he says yes. Have done it at all the big box stores.

>>33890897
That's a $100 rifle. Fuck this gay earth.

>>33890830
or the commission 1888

>>33891470
>$100 SKS
>2017
Times have changed bud. It's more like a $400 rifle now.

>>33890897
Leaf here. Obviously that is wildly overpriced but is that common in the States? Are SKS s getting to be expensive?

>>33891380
but you have to be at least 21 to work in the firearms dept of cabelas. sounds like a fake story chad.

>>33891470

You're retarded of you think you're getting a $100 dollar sks from any lgs

>>33891565
Then fine, college age kid with pubes growing out of his chin. When they have shit in their ears or a beard that looks like they glued pubes to their face I assume they're under 18 or got held back. A lot.

>>33891378
i used to work in NICS at 007, my favorite were the people that believed we had 0% market and thought they were getting one over on us.

>>33891588
What about the old guys who had never touched a computer and bitched about filling out the 4473?

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>>33890705
Alright, time to tick /k/ off.

That is not bubba. This is bubba. That is a cheap sporterization.

Bubba is when the change is pointless, based upon a fad, removes real functionality without adding any, and basically makes a rifle worthless.

Sporterization is when someone takes a rifle meant for combat and turns it into a hunting rifle.

Here's the thing: Post-WWII, surplus rifles were fucking cheap, and they were everywhere. In today's money, you could buy an Arisaka for around 90 to 150 bucks. For that Arisaka, I'm guessing it was a bringback, seeing as it has the mum still, so it could easily have been free. A new Winchester back then would have run you somewhere in today's money from like 1200 to 1500 dollars.

Very few people cared about them. There were millions of them. Sure, people collected the weird things, the Japanese prototype rifles and whatnot, but Arisakas? It's sort of like nowadays buying a Toyota Camry and putting it in a pristine collection. Who saves a Camry?

So, why not convert it to a useful hunting gun? 6.5 Arisaka's a nice deer cartridge. Cut down the stock, put on some actually nice sights, and you've got a handy rifle for the woods.

So I say buy it. Sportized guns are a neat piece of history. Swords to plowshares, if you will. It fought for the Emperor and lost, and then went to the enemy's land and got that 12 point buck.

Is it worth as much nowadays as an untouched one? Of course not. But it's got a story, and I think it's a story worth remembering.

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>>33891739
Hold muh beer.

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>>33891762
Yes, that's a D&T receiver mount welded to a dust cover.

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>>33891739
>Bubba is when the change is pointless, based upon a fad, removes real functionality without adding any, and basically makes a rifle worthless.
Which is exactly what your precious "sporterization" is. The people hacking up these guns don't know shit about them. The sights, the stocks, the barrel length is all perfectly calibrated by the people who made the gun.
>Sporterization is when someone takes a rifle meant for combat and turns it into a hunting rifle.
Because a gun that's meant to hunt people can't hunt animals?

>Sportized guns are a neat piece of history.
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>>33890830
You couldn't restore it, it's been drilled and tapped.
Also stocks are nearly non-existent and the barrel has been cut.

This gun is permafucked.

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>>33890897
>850 for a used SKS
>Norinko
>mfw

>>33891739
Your pointless distinction is pure autism. It ruins the value either way. The only distinction worth making is whether or not the damage is permanent or so costly to fix that its not worth fixing

>>33891775
spotted the turbo-autist

>>33891775
They did it because there were millions of them and they were the cheapest way to get hunting. They sporterized them and told you it was to save weight but really to try and make them look like modern sporting rifles that they often could not afford.

>>33891837
>manchildren being unable to deal with change

>>33890897
This is why sporting stores are going out of business.

>>33890705
SHOW MORE PRICE TAGS ON THE SURPLUS

>>33891872
>autist trying to justify overspending on worthless guns
Theres nothing changing in this situation. Ruined surplus has always been worthless

>>33891837
>>33891775
Arisakas were so fucking worthless at the time the US Army dumped them into the ocean. Making it a handier rifle whose length isn't designed to be a goddamn pike and has a good peep sight makes sense.

>>33891921
>Oh my, 200 bucks for a rifle is so much! Oh no!

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>>33891925

And here's the maker

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I had the same scope on my Cobra BB gun

>>33891925
well it's not like you can make the mosin any worse than it already is

It's sad so many people have no appreciation for history.

>>33891928
Why pay $200 for a worthless rifle when you can pay $500 for a beautiful example of the same rifle that will always hold its value? Especially when that rifle shoots two dollar bills.

>>33891921
>implying surplus has value in this day and age

Any gun you can buy surplus has a modern alternative at the same price point that is manufactured to a higher standard, uses ammunition that is both cheaper and more readily available, and benefits from having a design that isn't 80 - 100+ years old.

>but muh history

Yes, because your Yugo Mauser that sat in a crate for decades, your force-matched Mosin, or your unissued Bulgarian Makarov are all such historically significant firearms, right?

>>33890705
It was probably done by one of those companies similar to bannerman that sporterized military guns. Bubba by today's standard, but was common place back in the day as no one wanted a military gun for durr hunting and no one had the foersight that someday all of those guns would actually have value.

>>33891670
I work inna nics at a cabelas and I just had one guy blow the fuck up becuase he refused to use the computer, fucked up using the ipad twice, and then fucked up 11a on the paper form.

Dude just kept yelling obscenities and then fucked off in his little scooter (well, the store's little scooter) when he was told that we couldn't fill the form out for him

Also, some gun library guys don't know shit about gun value. Some dude at a store bought a fucking Siamese Mauser for like 600 bucks (checked via the bound book). Now, I understand that Siamese Mauser's usually aren't in the blue book or any reference book (except for like one really hard to find book), but at least take a glance at gun broker or gun board prices. It shouldn't have been bought for more than 200 bucks (although it's market value is probably more 350-400).

>>33892011
The value of unsporterized surplus is almost always tripple or more than that of the sporterized version and it will always hold that value. Throw an autistic fit if you want. i dont control the markets, i just follow them.

>>33891973
Well when it's a Finnish capture Peter the Great M91, you can certainly fuck up the value pretty good.

>>33892035
I was not advocating that surplus should be sporterized. I was simply saying that people who buy surplus today are either idiotic LARPers or irrational people who lack the knowledge to distinguish memes from reality.

While there WAS a point in the past where buying something like a Mosin or SKS might have made sense from a purchasing power standpoint, that no longer applies today.

>>33892064
There certainly still are several examples of milsurp rifles being well worth the money. The only people who would disagree are the kind of people who think you should only own firearms for purely utilitarian reasons and only own glocks and ARs.

>>33892064
Or they buy them because they can appreciate it beyond a utilitarian purpose?

>>33891895
Well shit I guess I'll go back tomorrow

>>33892064
/k/ has a hard time understanding nuance. if it isn't in black and white, expect them to throw a shit-fit

>>33892094
Thank you, I find seeing super over priced stuff enjoyable.

why did everyone sporterize rifles back then? why didnt they wanna hunt with a cool military rifle?

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>>33892110

>>33892027
How do you guys still have paper forms?

>11a
If they misread that, they shouldn't own guns.

That's funny about Siamese Mauser's. We have one for ~$250.

My all time favorite question from the 4473 is 12.d.2. That fucking question has caused so many issues.

>>33892081
>There certainly still are several examples of milsurp rifles being well worth the money.

Alternatively, I can just buy a Howa, Savage, Tikka, or Ruger American if I want to do long distance shooting. For $600 or less, all of those guns come from the factory with free-floating barrels, bedded stocks, adjustable triggers, and mounting systems for optics. They are also available in any caliber I want, be it .308 or .300 Win Mag, both of which are far easier to source than a snowflake round like, say, 7.5 Swiss.

From my standpoint, any of the modern guns listed above is more convenient to own, less expensive to shoot, and has far greater performance on the range or in the field, while costing the same as what a surplus rifle will. Which milsurp rifles are the ones that you feel are "well worth the money" despite this?

>>33892110
The reason people sporterized their rifles is the same reason all of the tactifags insist on buying hundreds of dollars worth of aftermarket parts for their Glocks to supposedly "improve" or "customize" it: ignorance.

>>33892110

They were dirt cheap and they didn't care they were military rifles, they just wanted something to hunt with

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>>33890897
$850

hahaha go to hell

>>33892144
for a while, I so wanted to get into the 6mm thing. of course at the time, I had no place to shoot... but still. the heart wants.

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>>33891739
>A new Winchester back then would have run you somewhere in today's money from like 1200 to 1500 dollars.
My dad bought his Winchester in the 60's for $40. He bought his S&W model 15 for $20
An Arisaka might have been half the price

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>>33890897

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>>33892187
Yeah, somehow I doubt that was a Model 70.

>>33892313
no, it was a 94. I still have it

>>33892144
>i am poor and con only buy rifles for utilitarian purposes: the post
The m39, k31, and 1903 are all rifles well worth the money for people who enjoy reloading for accuracy and actually do things for fun.

>>33892133
We still have paper for cases like these. I actually don't know where they are kept, someone else always pulls it out when it's needed. We need manager approval to use them and the compliance guys hate it when we do pull them out since they don't like to read shit that isn't typed out.

We have people who 12d2 all the fucking time too. It's not that vague a question, but people don't seem to understand what "N/A: Not Applicable" means. About 80% of the people I process don't understand 11a either though.

Many times people mess on up 12d2 the first time, then fuck up 11a while trying to blast through the second time.

>>33892064
Ohhh, so you don't think its a good deal or has any value anybody who enjoys having it is an idiot? Got it.

>>33892064
but you can get a mosin for $100. That is far cheeper then any comparable new rifle

>>33892449
You're about 20 years too late. You cannot get a Mosin for $100 unless you want to buy one that's been bubba'd to the point of ruination; the very cheapest ones you will find are going to be $200 before transfer, sales tax, etc. They are not worth it at that price.

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I'm happy to have gotten my arisaka for free.

>>33892385
>Many times people mess on up 12d2 the first time, then fuck up 11a while trying to blast through the second time.

Then they blow through the quick review screen, which I tell them about twice, and say they didn't see it and the whole process is bullshit.

>>33892706
Interesting story or just passed down?

>>33890897
shit like this is what makes me thing capitalism is failing

>>33893108
>People buying things elsewhere and forcing businesses to concede to their whims
>Lulz, capitalism is failing.

Read a book dipshit.

>>33890705
This guy is one of my local FFLs and I know for a fact that he's got a bunch of Arisaka parts that he got in an auction sitting around his gunsmithing workshop. If you contact him, he might have what you need to restore that rifle.
http://www.setterarms.com/

>>33893015
Very long story with a lot of holes I'll show it later

>>33890897
I got a Norinco SKS from Cabelas for $350.

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>>33892011
>value this day and age
>Future long term investment, bad long term, but long term nonetheless.
ISHIGGYDIGGY

>>33891085
Is that horse milk anon?

>>33893175
Yeah, I might swing by tomorrow and see if I can talk them down. I wouldn't mind having a cheap one just to kick around and get the feel of loading for.I think one anon is correct about the barrel being chopped.

>>33893230
Only certain kinds of milsurp have any potential value. The kinds of poorfag rubbish that your average /k/ user owns--Yugo Mausers, Chinese SKS, non-Finn Mosins, Bulgarian Makarovs, etc--are never going to be anything resembling an "investment." They are actually a losing position to be holding, because their value is highly unlikely to appreciate faster than the rate of inflation.

>>33891357
Are the sales worth it?

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>>33891551
Legend has it the price of Yugo SKS fluctuates with the price of Yugo cars......

Yet another former Cabelas employee. Their guns are always way overpriced and the barrels are rarely, if ever, cleaned and oiled. The only time to buy is if you manage to talk them down on the price or if they misidentified the gun. It's usually some ancient fudd in charge of the guns and they mess up identifying guns or don't know about rare variants and shit sometimes.

>>33893658
did u get a discount for working there

>>33892706
Nice. I got a type 99 as a gift from my father in law. He just had it laying around his attic. It was a gift from a friend originally apparently from decades ago. He's not a gun guy, but he loves antiques. Now I have two type 99's. Oh well. Stll need to get a type 38 and maybe a last ditch eventually,

The more I have been looking at it. I think that is actually a type 38.

>>33893530
>mosins went from $75 to $200
I don't recall dollar inflating 266%
Not that a Mosin is a collectors invemesnt

>>33893736
Yeah, but hardly anything on cool stuff. Mainly clothes. Bargain cave is good though.

>>33893989
It is a Type 99. In fact this exact mistake in identifying arisakas happened at my location. When I told the guy in charge, he got all pissed off at me for knowing more about guns than him or something.
>ya well from what I looked up the type 38 didn't have a safety like this, so I think it's a type 99.

t. kanji reading weeb ex employee

>>33894063
Did you ever try 3point5? Shit is cash. Also we had summit pricing on Cabela's/Herter's stuff for the past few months. I bought so much ammo.

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>>33894104
3三8八

>>33894307
Right 38. sorry. When I said "It is" I meant It is a type 38. I also have autism.

>>33894384
Lololol understandable

>>33893175
Isn't this the guy who was forced out of daly city becuase "guns r bad", despite the fact that daly city has fucking big 5 and dicks selling guns as well?

>>33892717
In my experience, it's easier to tell them to not hit submit. Also women are good at not blowing through the quick review. One thing I like about women buying guns is that they listen to you.

>>33891925
Lol it has two bolts now

>>33892064
I bought a surplus polish police pistol because I'm poor as fuck and it was a easy way to get a reliable handgun.


Quit being such a giant faggot you keyboard nigger.

>>33892081
>There certainly still are several examples of milsurp rifles being well worth the money
Start naming them.

Because in order of average price from cheapest to "why the fuck", you have
>carcano at ~$200
>Spanish mauser at ~$250
>yugo mauser at $~275
>Mosin M91/30 at ~$300 (non-counterbored, non-sewerpipe bore, intact no parts missing)
First one has nearly-unobtainium ammo that's $3 a round, second has hard to find ammo that's $1.50 a round, third one has fairly uncommon but findable ammo that's 70-80cpr, fourth one is into Ruger American rifle price bracket.

Meanwhile I can grab a Howa 1500 Lightning in .223, .243, 7mm-08, .308, .270, .30-06, or .25-06 off half a dozen online retailers for $250, it's got better iron sights and a better trigger while being chambered in anywhere from dirt-cheap to affordable (all rounds available in some fashion for under 60cpr, some as low as 22cpr). Oh, and I can mount a scope to it with absolutely no modification.

>>33892110
Because they could easily and cheaply shave weight and put better sights on them, and because sporterizing a rifle they paid less than a day's wages for was far more economical than buying a factory new "hunting" rifle.
>yfw minimum wage in 1960 was $1.00 an hour
>yfw a surplus German K98k mauser in 1960 cost $4.50 and ammo was 2 cents a round, and was considered expensive
An 8 hour shift at minimum wage could buy you a pristine K98 and a lifetime supply of ammo.

>>33892531
And that $200 Mosin will be missing non-essential parts, have a twice-counterbored barrel and rifling that looks like a septic tank inlet pipe, and be missing half its bluing.

Finding one that's actually shootable starts at $275 any more, finding a numbers-matching 91/30 starts at $350, finding a numbers-matching anything else is $500+.

>>33894684
I dont know I've found many fairly decent nuggets at the $200 or under mark. The m44 and type 53 have sky rocketed to an astronomical price for what ever reason.

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>>33890897

i liek gunz

>>33893108
>capitalism is failing

>force all non-private gun sales to go through a local dealer, ontop of sales tax
>guns are already doubly taxed
>Google purges all gun content from their search engines slowly

>banks refuse to deal with people who buy and sell firearms
>ordered to by the state department, people literally can't have bank accounts because the government disapproves of their legal business

>the only stores in town that sell guns are the huge big-box stores that can afford the overhead

>Capitalism

???

>>33890705

type 38 or type 99?

looks like it's a pretty professional conversion to a hunting rifle.

>>33891775

when that arisaka was sporterized, it was neither valuable nor rare. They literally gave them away to GIs occupying Japan. In the context of this gun and ones like them, the porterization is actually part of the gun's history, rather than a destruction of the gun's history, and gives us a little bit of insight into the postwar era.

Also the only guns that really suffered from having the barrel cut down are Carcanos with progressive rifling, because it altered the twist-rate. the other issues, like the stock and sights, are a matter of personal taste.

>>33892144
If you bought a crate of sks ten years ago, you could be selling them now for hundreds of dollars worth of profit. That worth your money?

>>33892110
>cheap funs
>cheap and plentiful ammo
>large supply of spare parts
>military rifles were kind of tacky back then, imagine shooting with an basic bitch M16A2 vs one you customize yourself
(disclaimer: I love 20inch ARs, but all my fudd friends dont)

>>33890897
Never thought I'd be this proud to be Canadian
>$200 syrupnigger bucks

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>>33890897
I'm at work and I audibly said "holy fuck" when I clicked the thumbnail.

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>>33895389

Haha you fucked up fellow Leaf.
Mfw >$130

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>>33890897
>mfw my Cabela's has a completely unmolested Tula SKS with matching parts, excellent finish, and factory proof marks everywhere for $500

I didn't buy it but holy shit am I glad my Cabela's isn't yours

>>33891378
Is there a scheduled time that you guys throw things on the rack? I walked in one morning and the whole stock had changed. Everything had price tags with generic "Sks $400" lines on them. Some fud was walking around and identifying everything and changing prices. When do I go in to find the prejew price tags?

>>33890705
On the plus side the Arisaka action is strong as fuck - you def. want to verify what it's chambered in but Arisaka's and MAS actions are unholy tier strong.

>>33890897
Cabelas needs to get it's shit together - Gander is going tits up, dicks doesn't look too good, yet poverty tier (awesome) gives not two fucks about appearance Academy is doing great

>>33891102
I got a really nice single shot .22 at Cabela's for $100. Turned out to be 80+ years old.

>>33895509
It's almost as if not selling things for MSRP to 150% MSRP is a good business strategy. Who knew?

I went to the local Gander's "going out of business" "sale" and everything was marked down a whole 10-20%, which brought most of their stuff to just above MSRP.

>>33892110
Shit was plentiful and cheap as all fuck.
WW2 was over and there was mountains of surplus/captured arms and every country was looking for a semi/full auto to replace bolt actions. They didn't view it as valuable

>>33895455
When I used to work at cabelas, it'd be in the morning or whenever they got to it.

>>33892110
NIB civilian guns cost more and often the civilian manufactured firearms were on par/ obsolete compared to the cheap surplus actions. Winchester was making civilian rifles with M1917 actions up until the 50's with the release of the Model 70.
Meanwhile you could fetch a Springfield 03A3, or a MAS, or a Arisaka, a K98K (or even a mosin) for 1/4 of the price

>>33892144
Finn Mosins and K31's are arguably worth it, or at least were, due to the workmanship on them. Russian capture mausers can suck a dick
American surplus is VASTLY overpriced. The garand I understand - it's just a fantastic rifle, and besides use the CMP faggots
The M1 carbine is about $800 dollars too expensive - they only made 7 million of them afterall.
03 springfields are by and far the most overpriced and overvalued surplus out there. Meanwhile you can find M1917's for cheap if you dig (the rifle that actually fought the wars legend claims were for the springfield) It's a dime a dozen mauser with either target sights or an average peep of average quality yet I can't find one cheaper than a Garand.

While collecting is fun I mostly agree with you.
That said I legitimately want to find a Savage, Tikka or Howa .300winmag boxfed for under 500 - could you please point me in the right direction?

>>33895416
>DELET

>>33893530
A mosin will never be an investment, at least not in our lifetimes. They'll find their niche at $200-$500 and stay there for 70 - 120 years.
Too many of them were made. When the stocks start withering to ash is another story.
Not so sure about maks - it was afterall the official sidearm of a failed superpower - we don't know how low or high they'll end up - as it is now they are still in military and police service in several areas of the world so you should expect more surplus.
Mausers imo are dime a dozen and I think they are overpriced

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>>33895737
>They'll find their niche at $200-$500 and stay there for 70 - 120 years.
Hmmmm....

>>33894684
Solution: Stop fucking buying Mosins idiots.
37 million made. The most produced bolt action rifle in history (Mauser action is most produced action). The only reason it costs so much is because hurr durr buy a mosin has entered normal lexicon in dealing with new shooters.
Sellers percieved a demand for them at that dumbass price, and people still buy them.

Mosins will never actually dry up in your lifetime, ever. The price hike is not indicative of actual potential supply - in fact it's mostly due to temporary crap. If we thawed relations with Russia and made it easier for them to import stuff mosins would be $50 again

>>33895342
>looks like it's a pretty professional conversion to a hunting rifle.
Believe me when I say it's far from professional. It's average and the gun is worth less than $100 dollars

>>33895756
That's a rare US made Mosin and is $1,000 overvalued. Gunbroker is generally a shit and is full of boomer fudds who think they can fleece their guns at used car prices.
>>33895762
This is just fucking sad at this point

>>33895791
>Over 1,000,000 made
>Rare
Ok.

>>33895756
>>33895762
>>33895766

Not to be a dick, but you are cherry picking here man. You and I both know that they're talking about m91/30's and/or m44's. There's no need to be pedantic about obscure variants when the majority is relevant to what he's saying

>>33895509
Cabela's is getting bought out by Bass Pro so they're already having problems if that had to happen.

>>33895796
I didn't realize there were that many US mosins lol, my bad. So basically it's a $500 dollar rifle at best lol.

The biggest thing collectors need to get into their heads is their shit is dime a dozen

>>33895767
>37 million made.
And tell me, wise one how many are still around? I can guarantee it's nowhere near that many left.
>Mosins will never actually dry up in your lifetime, ever.
But they did.

>If we thawed relations with Russia and made it easier for them to import stuff mosins would be $50 again
No it won't. The reason why Mosins were so cheap because the countries of the former Soviet Union's economies were in the toilet. They sold everything dirt cheap. Guess what? It's not 1995 anymore.
Even IF, Mosins get imported from Russia, they won't be anywhere near $50. Why would a Russian sell a Mosin for $5 to an importer, when they can sell that very same gun in a Russian gun shop for $400+?

>>33895848
>I'm not a collector
>but collectors should do this instead

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>>33892313
You idiots make it sound like no one would have been buying newly made commercial guns at the time since surplus was so cheap, but yet Remchester still sold a fuck ton of their guns.

Those "sporterized" guns were all shit. Your average person doesn't have the capabilities nor the knowledge to fuck around. They became money pits for Bubba. Just like the modern tacticool fags in which they are constantly buying the latest and greatest "accessories" for their AR. They never could get the rifle they wanted so after countless fucking around they threw the thing in the closest and bought a fucking Remchester which was what they wanted out of the box.

>>33890897

>$850 for a Norinco SKS
>not even NIB

Can't you get like, two unissued Yugos for that price? Or a nice AK?

>>33894307
why does this bitch look like biggie smalls

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>>33891551
Got a chinese type 56 from J&G for $350 last year. Other than the stock and finish, all the metal parts were in good condition.

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>>33891133
>Buy 1903A3 converted to A4, but better scope and stock replacement suitable for a bipod.
>$400

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>>33891775

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>>33895796
>Over 1,000,000 made
Wasn't it closer to 3,000,000? I remember it being two contracts for 1.5 mil each, each 1.5 split between NEW and Remington.

>>33890772
for $200 you can one in original configuration, so no, its not worth $199 unless the receiver is some sniper variant which its clearly not

too bad, since the mum is intact. if you want a sporter thats a decent shooter, i guess its worth whatever youre willing to pay for it. i like the peep sight

>you will never take the syrup sks' down to the states and sell them for $850 usd/$1160 cad
Why even live

>>33895509
>dicks doesn't look too good
Funny, they're the fastest growing sporting goods store in the world, are rapidly expanding, set several new industry records last year, has already driven 3 national-level competitors out of business, and basically has succeeded in a market everything else like them has tanked in.

Maybe not try pulling shit out of your ass next time?

>>33895911
No and No. Although you could get one unissued Yugo and one meh-condition Yugo or one meh-tier AK for that.
>yfw the "good" AK's don't start until the 4 figure mark any more

>>33890897
>norinko
>Over 800 burgers
lmao

>>33890897
>chink SKS costs more than a nearly new Yugo SKS

>>33895805
>they're already having problems if that had to happen.

No, the owner of bass pro owns a majority of Ranger boats and Cabela's sells Ranger boats. That's why they're merging. The deal was in limbo since Capital one (acting as a middle man for the money) was found laundering money.

>>33890897
>16" barrel
>All these fags thinking this is a normal SKS
You fags are dumbass, that's a fucking preban SKS Paratrooper

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Waddup /k/ t. fingolian

>>33895311
This.

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Anyone good with Springfield inspector marks? I can't quite make out the markings for the name.

>>33892187
He was talking about in today's dollars.

>>33895689
Gunbroker

>>33896045
The contract wasn't fully done because Russia stopped paying

>>33897295
Springfield Armory

>>33890866
Why does Canada Cabelas not have racks of milsurp? Fucking BS

>>33897462
The name in the box, not the armory.

>>33894616
>Meanwhile I can grab a Howa 1500 Lightning in .223, .243, 7mm-08, .308, .270, .30-06, or .25-06 off half a dozen online retailers for $250
Try $400 for the model with no irons. Congrats, youve got a bottom tier, ugly, pencil thin barrel, bendy, stock new production rifle for just under the cost of some very aesthetic and extremely accurate milsurp ive already named. The fact that you think any of these calibers are hard to find or that 8mm mauser is $1.50/round or that 54r is 80 cpr or that youre not aware of no tap mounts or that you dont reload tells me all i need to know about your milsurp knowledge. Basically, everything you just said is wrong

>>33894508
Yup.

>>33897295
Pretty sure that's a Remington arsenal mark and FJA inspector stamp.

>>33897295
It's Lt. Col Frank J Atwood's inspection stamp.

>>33896625
so fucking what?
its still not even close to worth $850

>>33896510
Not that dude, but every Dicks in my area of central texas has gone belly up over the last decade.

>>33890705
I would hope not. Arisakas with the Seal on it are kinda rareish

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>>33890897
Audibly said "What the fuck!?" out loud at work

>>33898945
The reason for that is because CenTex is the home of Academy, which has cheap prices, decent goods, and nowhere near the level of fudd sentiment that Dick's has towards guns.

Frankly, Dick's is a glorified shoe and golf store to me.

>>33893108
You need to be over 18 to post here

>>33896625
It is a normal SKS that's the problem

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>>33897454
Most of the rifles were already finished by the time of the October Revolution. The US Govt. stepped in to pay for the remaining un-shipped balance because otherwise Remington and Westinghouse would have been insolvent. They bought over a million rifles and issued them for training purposes. Some were also used to arm members of the AEF forces sent to occupy Murmansk and Vladivostok.

>>33892187
>$40 in 1965 had the same buying power as $312 in today's money.
Goddammit we are being jewed by gun companies.

>>33895737
Yeah, sure and I remember when Mausers were $100 bucks for 10 years and Garands were $300. When they increase in value it happens quickly and usually without you noticing until you say WTF?

>>33896010
Wow, we can still get Russian SKS for around $270.00 at Cabelas here.

>>33898967
It was

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>>33892706
I got my K98 passed down to me by my grandfather that brought it back glad i dont have to pay 800-1200 cad for one

>>33890897
Holy fuck i can get a russian sks for 170 usd here in canada.
still doesnt make our gun laws any less retarded.

>>33902845
Fucking love my MKIII ugh

>>33892706
>>33893015
For god's sake I keep getting a connection error message every time I try to post it

>>33891739
>That is not bubba.


The Japanese did not issue Arisakas with diopter sights. This is a Bubba. It doesn't matter if Bubba went to gunsmithing school. It doesn't matter if bubba did a nice job. It doesn't matter if Bubba did a terrible job.

Bubba is ANYONE who fucks with a milsurp.

>>33891925
idgaf about people fucking up their guns I just don't understand why someone would do such a shitty job of it. if you're going to bother doing it, why not do it well?

>>33903350
No it's not you autist. Jesus did you even read the rest of his post?

>>33891739
>sporterizing ANY old milsurp rifle
you and anyone who thinks that is a good Idea needs to be gassed

>>33893108
nice post, comrade

>>33895416
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33903235
Okay, I give up, I'm just going to post the text on another thread and link it to here

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>>33892706
>>33893015
>>33904320
Okay, posted it on some note.io site (http://notes.io/saXE) . here's the pic that the MFW goes with

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>>33891762
>>33891774
THAT'S NOT WHERE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO

>>33896035
My soul hurts

>>33890897

Seen them for $600 or less out here in Utah.