Pre 1920 revolvers general thread

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Yeah fuck the army

>>33877309
S & W hand ejector in .455 webley is the way to go.

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>>33877309
>which were the most popular?

For civilians? Probably any number of top breaks made by companies like Iver Johnson or Harrington and Richards in .32 or .38

>>33877309
>Which one should I get? Which ones were the most popular?

Of things that are still readily available today and are actually good guns rather than Ian McCollum conversation pieces? A Model 10, a Colt New Army, or a Colt Official Police.

>Original or reproduction?

Smith and Wesson is still making Model 10s, but there are no reproductions/new production for the New Army or Official Police. Generally speaking, an older gun is going to have more value with collectors assuming similar condition, while a newer gun is going to be structurally and mechanically superior.

>>33877638
Where the fuck am I supposed to get .455

>>33877597
I was looking at the uberti franken gun that shoots .38 special but looks like that.

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Officer model Reichsrevolver

>>33877922
Fiocci makes a batch literally once a year, buffalo bore sells cases and usually has them in stock.

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S&W Model 3 Double Action (.44 russian). Also, fuck phoneposting and its image flipping.

>I dont want a SAA
y tho?

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Remington 1861 "Old Army"

>>33878029
Too played out. and doesn't make my penis hard

>>33877922
Fiocci makes it all the time.

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how cool would a modern lemat style revolver be?

>>33878154
Not really, would either need to make it black powder or a really ineffective and expensive SBR.

would a ,38 caliber enfield/ webley work for you?
.38S&W should be easier to find than .455

>>33878523
Maybe, those are pretty cool.

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>>33878170
Okay but what if it had 7 shots of .357 and 1 shot of .410 in the center? I did some measuring and it fits perfectly. You would just need to come up with a hammer design. Alternatively you could have 7 shots of .357 in the same cylinder diameter as a 6 shooter.

How expensive of a hobby is it to collect revolvers?

>>33877979
That's really cool. Have you shot with it?

>>33878673
i'm assuming the issue would be making it stout enough to handle modern smokeless and still look like a lemat and not a lehi-point

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>>33879518
I just got it recently, so I have only fired 25 shots through it. It has a very heavy hammer spring and trigger pull, but that is to be expected from a military revolver. Im using black powder in my rounds so it puts out a huge cloud of smoke and makes a nice deep "boom"

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>>33877309
For sure get a Colt Walker (replica, originals are collector's items) and convert it for cartridges (Uberti, Kirst Konverters)

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Always fancied these. 11mm caliber and a long history.
Shot one years ago and I've got to see and handle serial no.1 of the series.

>>33879916
Are those the ones from the mummy?

>>33879916
is that a chamelot delvigne? i would love to buy one, but heeled bullets are expensive to reload.

>>33879941
is that an M1917?

>>33879928
Yes.
>>33879934
There is a little reloading kit for the 11 mm. Yes, it's expensive.

>>33879969
holy fuck thats sexy.

>>33879982
yup.

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>>33877309

>>33879969
>repros never
could fucking Pedersoli get this shit going?

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Where do you find ammo for things like 6.5mm pinfire revolvers? I've had my eye on one for a while. Pic somewhat related.

>>33880305
I think there actually was some reproductions that were being passed off as the real deal at one point. But no, i dont think the fellas at pedersoli have much interest in it. Not many people in the public actually know of them and most of the American market likes "cowboy" guns. It kinda sucks that America is the biggest and pretty much only market that is big enough to have diverse interest and the right to own pretty much any gun. The problem is that most people couldn't care about the really interesting guns.

Why are revolvers so much better looking then semi autos?

Why did they have to start putting heavy barrels on things and ruining aesthetics

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>>33880502
>Webley Scott & Sons make a big deal of a 'Founder's Club' for .455 repros
>claim their airshit is proof of concept
>no word for a year
>have to email them about it
>their answer is they couldn't work it out with the supplier
>founder page is still up


>>33880351
You either make your own or buy reloadable kits

There's a reason they are either super cheap or super expensive.

>>33882243
reeee

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>>33882269
I'm desperate enough to try and see if I can nigger rig a .22 CB from their airshit frames at this point so I can call it a new production webley.
>inb4 Anderson and Wheeler's .357 version
If you have to inquire about price it's too expensive for you.

If you are reeing about the pinfires , there is a reason they were dropped the minute the Rollin White patent ran out.

>>33881841
It's more practical, it would be like asking why they make grips in giant ergonomic uggo instead of tiny and aesthetic.

Miss octagonal barrels though.

>>33882537
Yea but if you are going to make shit that ugly I am just gunna go buy a single stack 9mm striker fired gun instead.

>>33882568
did you just say that Adams is ugly?

>>33882568
True but some people like revolvers for their own reason and while aesthetics has a place sometimes function can be a charm of it's own.

>>33882735
I think he's talking about modern Hogue grips and such.

>>33882735
I am talking about the post 1950 or so bullshit of putting heavy barrels on a revolver

>>33880082
>>33882537
>>33882243
its from a friends collection, he has a few other revolving guns.

I dont know if you guys would be interested in anymore?

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>>33882923
It helps reduce recoil and allows for hotter loads without causing stringing from heat expansion.Not personally a fan of the looks but it's not like they are making guns ugly on purpose.

At least in this case...
>>33883037
>do people on a weapons forum want to see a neat and uncommon gun
Fuck yes.

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>>33883100
>Fuck yes.

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>pre-1920 revolver thread
>No M1917 in .45 ACP

All of my wat?

>>33883239
check again faggot.

unless you have a smith and wesson you are late to the game.>>33879941

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>>33883100
it isnt exactly a pre 1920 but its still pretty cool.

>>33877922
>uberti franken gun that shoots .38 special but looks like that.
You mean the totally legitimate cartridge conversion? They made those form cap and ball resolvers back in the day. Was cheaper then a the 1873 colt.

>>33883249
His pic is a Smith. You can tell because the cylinder rod is supported. On the colts it is unsupported

>>33883209
>>33883271
I thought this was from some random guy's travels in africa? Did he take those home?

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>>33883100
and thats it as far as revolvers
He has more but they are deep in the bowels of his old riverboat and asking him to dig these out was kind of asking alot.(He has 300 guns but ive only gazed upon roughly 100). The rest are in deep dark storage. He recently opened a compartment he had welded shut, apparently he forgot about the 150 east german and Romanian ak mags he had hidden away for Y2K.(just in case).

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>>33883328
i dont know who reposted that story but its one gun not two. He made it from a webley revolver in the late 80s. Why? because he does stuff like that for fun.

>pic related
another gun he put together, he turned a Damascus double barrel 12gauge into a double barrel 45-70(black powder only).

>>33883333
>all those rare guns rotting away in some guy's boat before getting cut up
I didn't need this.

>>33883368
>but its one gun not two
ignore that bit, i thought you were saying the webley was two guns. But no, the maker doesnt not like black people and would not go to africa under any circumstances.

>>33879428
Depends on a lot of factors
>what trips your trigger
Some collectible revolvers are cheaper than others. Some start with a comma in the price tag and go up from there.
>quality, quantity, or both
High quality revolvers are expensive. Lots of high quality revolvers are more expensive.

>>33877685
i thought they didn't start cutting them down until ww2?

>>33883368
Does your friend know he could not cut up those guns and get money for more AK mags?

Except for stuff like the double barrel. That is pretty neat and probably not worth much.

Bongs
>we need a cheaper easier to produce gun
>I know lets get rid of the drop safety and make a gun that will ND if dropped from waist height
>brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rzLlwRpt8

Bongs, not even fucking once.

>>33883375
he takes good care of certain ones. He only keeps guns he can shoot.

For example the gun behind the double barrel is a peabody carbine made in the 1870's for the SC militia. His grandpa bought it off some guy who was moving west in the 1890's. It has all the original marking for the south carolina militia. Anyway during the 60's he wanted to shoot it and of course they dont make .50 peabody anymore and no one makes a 50 caliber rim fire. So he converted the breach face so that the firing pin comes out the center. Now it can shoot modified 8mm lebel casings that are cut and necked out to .50 .

>>33883438
He is currently in the process of selling the mags off.

>That is pretty neat and probably not worth much.
well fuck it actually could be, i cant remember the name of the orignal maker but i know they run around 700-800 dollars$. So he could honestly argue his work is worth 200-300 dollar$.

I want to buy it, and he will probably charge me around 1000$. But i really havent discussed it too much with him.

>>33883466
Far be it for me to tell a man what to do with his property but it seems a waste to just mess with guns like that.

>>33883509
I mean, if it's worth that much to you, sure but he could argue all he wants most anyone else would say it's just a 700 dollar shotgun that lost all it's original balance and regulation for a range toy.

>>33883539
Guns are meant to be shot. It's just a hunk of steel and wood otherwise.

>>33883622
If you alter the gun it is no longer the original gun, it's something new and all the history is wiped out. If the guy can bubba a webley into a carbine he can form a couple cases of .50 Peabody on a lathe but he chose to destroy the history because he was so enthralled with his own 'cleverness'.

>>33883677
well actually he wanted to maintain the peabody, he actually has a story about how he had to kind of fight to get it. His grandmother promised it to him but his family members wanted to sell it off. To him its a fairly heirloom that is more that just a wall hanger, and i can appreciate that.

as far as everything else, i should say they arent artifacts to him, he is in his early 70's(although you wouldnt think that looking at him). In his time they were consider bargain bin guns. It would be like me modifying an AR or Ruger 10/22, No one would give a shit.

>>33883803
>>33883677
I should also say that he gave away a few .50 peabody to a few friends, so when they traveled the world they could keep an eye out for more ammo. When nearly decade went by without finding a single one he converted it.

>>33883803
I can respect the man, getting old and sharp enough to not give a shit is a personal goal of mine.

Shame the internet didn't exist back then. Would have spent a mint on just one cartridge but at least the info is out there so he could have turned one out and kept it original if he wanted to. What was was, I guess.

Wonder where a man comes across a cache of spare Peabodys to give out to friends traveling the world though.

>>33884128
I think a few were with the gun, but he has had a interesting life.

He recently told me about how he got a 25$ ticket in the 70s for unloading on a truck that almost ran him over. 25$ for simple assault. It pays to do favors for the local goverment.

Small town life is the best life, DESU.


A more interesting thing is though, he grew up playing with a god damn papa nambu. No one could find ammo for it so they let the little kid just walk around playing with it. When he got older he found some ammo for it but ended up selling it. He regets it.