Krupp steel und Porsche engines, who can defeat us?

>>33876578
Physics.

>>33876578
http://napoleon130.tripod.com/id488.html

Gunships like the b25g or a26 would shitstomp a tiger 2

The latter was fitted with up to 20 m2 brownings, each firing 850 rpm, as well as 16 5inch rockets (literally 127mm naval he shells fitted with rocket motors) and 4000lbs of bombs or just 12000lbs if you want to forgo the rockets

Also 4 of the nose machine guns can be replaced with a 37mm shortbarreled fast firing cannon and a 75mm high velocity cannon.

>>33876578
Ha! They are scratching your paint job, Helmut!

>>33876640
>WWII aircraft hitting anything smaller than a city

>>33876640
>implying tank formations wouldn't have SPAA with them
>implying those m2 brownings, 75mm sherman cannons, or 37mms would do anything at all to a tiger ii

>>33876672
from ground level the 37 and 75 would do nothing. but from above they would be very effective. the tiger II had, what, 40mm of roof amour?

>>33876672
A a couple of those rockets hitting will shatter the armor, the tiger 2s had a problem with that in regards to he

And a several thousand rounds of 50 cal will fuck up all sorts of shit, treads, the rear and rear side armor, certain portions of the top armor

Those unprotected treads are fucked

It's gonna get mobility killed for sure which in 1944 Germany basically means it's done for


Also that 75mm will totally penetrate a tiger 2 from any aoa except frontal

>>33876672
Ww2 spags were rather shit, and surprisingly scarce.

Also a26s btfo even the b17s when it comes to meme levels of durability

>>33876712
>rockets
>hitting

>>33876727
Yeah, the late model a26s had rather good visibillity profile and the finned 5 inch rockets were used in at roles

You are strafing these tanks pretty closely

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>>33876578

>>33876578
The Allies

>>33876578

Cheap and generally inferior but ultra mass produced vehicles that can throw themselves at you until one of them makes it to your side and rear armor.

Alternatively, sabotaged Krupp steel and Porsche engines.

>>33876871
>Implying Porsche need sabotage to make unreliable shit that bursts into flames

>>33876879

got 'em

>>33876578
Pride of the Fatherland!

>>33876578
AT gun spam

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>>33876578
>Henschel King tiger
>Maybach HL320 engine
>Porsche engine???

Do you even Panzerfahren??

>>33876879
this

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>>33876982
> HL320
I meant *HL230* w/ cyclone air cleaners to be more specific

>>33876712
the .50s are useless from all angles since they penetrate only about 25mm at point blank (inb4 some faggot linking SLAP or Mk211 ) same goes for the 37 except when the plane does a suicide dive from a 90° anlge onto the top armor which is rather unlikely
tl dr B25 and A26 are cool af but without bombs and rockets they cant harm tanks and the bombs and rockets have a historical hitratio of like 5%

>>33876712
that 75mm has only 90mm penetrationa t point blank you retard its barely enough to penetrate the side of the Tiger II from point blank which wont happen with a plane strafing run

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>>33876578
The only way to see France is through the turret of a panzer!

>>33877238
That's a different Tiger. From what I remember, it was a black Tiger I. How dod you do that?

>>33876578
>M4 sherman in the front and M10 with rangers with bazooka and spam and kill the shot out of it. If you have a 57mm AT gun, that would be usefull.

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>>33877538
typhoons. noice

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>>33876578
you need some help son

>>33876578
>who can defeat us?
French and German roads

Every time I see somebody post Ju 87 with 37mm or Hs 129 with 75mm somebody always replies:
>meme plane

So how many tanks did >>33876640 directly destroy? Did it do any better at that role?

>>33877658
That crane looks so fucking flimsy

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>>33876578

Seargent,get a 50 on the roof of this tin can,it's time to shred some krauts

>>33877742
yea german recovery shit was surprisingly pretty bad especially considering the massive number of mechanical failures they had. that thing probably wasn't even for recovery, but no one knows what else it could have been for.

So which is better, CoH or CoH2?

>>33877773
Maybe to recover stuck vehicles like the Kublewagon? They were pretty light so you wouldn't need much to lift one. 'll

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>>33877729
The RAF found that kind of thing OK when firing at ship sized targets.
Making life "interesting" for non stationary targets would be more their thing.

Beaten area if you get what I mean.

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rain. open-top tank. fucking brilliant engineering.

>>33877897
Came with a tarp.

CoH>CoH2
Tho men of war is the true /k/ experience CoH always has the special place in my heart

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>>33877839
I liked CoH better

>>33877839

CoH2 as a """"competetive"""" game but CoH for enjoyment.Theres much more bullshit and gimmicky stuff in CoH1,those made it more fun in a sense tho.

>>33877839
CoH without doubt.
Still think there should be a CoH blitzkrieg mod stand alone game.
Opposing fronts was also a GOAT expansion.

>>33877897
>Tank
But that's wrong, retard.

>>33877984
CoH was way more competitive, the soviets couldn't even do proper sniper wars in 2 and they were the best part of tournaments

>>33877897
Geschützwagen open for business!

>>33878352

Permacloaking snipers are a retarded idea imo.nowadays the soviets really are more into Strafniki and DSchK,overall the balance drastically improved over the years for CoH 2.

>>33878608
Are brits still dumb? I remember the aa tank being able to clear at guns in seconds

>>33877658
>wasting a tiger to be some recovery,
jesus couldn't they have made some half track do that?

>>33876851
That's Panther, as far as i know King Tiger 2H was never penne'd from the front.

>>33876578
Fuel shortages, shitty gearbox and transimision, underpowered engine, 1000000 t34s.

>>33876578
>who can defeat us
Someone with a better supply line.

>>33880732
They did use halftracks but vehicle recovery was extremely dangerous and they were often under fire so having more armour definately helps.

>>33878814

nah,they fixed the centaur months ago.The bofors is still great but as always gets countered by AT or artillary.When was the last time you played,a lot changed.

>>33880732
kinda hard when tigers weighed so fucking much for the period I doubt any halftracks had the engine or trannie to pull them

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>>33876578
Wolfram.Also comes in 90mm,for her pleasure.

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>>33876640

Get on my level pleb.

>>33880811
>operator has to stand outside to crank the crane
>open top
>sending in the middle of a war zone

>>33877863
>using your best heavy tank to get small cars out of mud

Wikipedia says it could have been a field modified tank for mine clearing, which makes sense. My theory is it's a field modified tank with a crane to yank out engines for repair.

>>33880861
They often did send them out to recover while under fire.

Guy sajer talks about it in his book, the forgotten soldier.

>>33880902
There was only one of those Tiger Recovery vehicles found.

They're not even mentioned elsewhere, just one outside of a train yard.

>>33880918
it was probably a feild modification then, i know bergpanther was known and used but it seems like that bergtiger was made out of tiger that couldn't get replacment parts for gun.
Also i know imagine germans making new vehicles
>make new tank or tank destroyer
>so heavy you need to make another one turned into recovery to recover the fighting one every time it breaks down
Imagine bergjagdtiger, or bergMaus.

>>33880941
>bergratte
To be fair, we have recovery vehicles based on tanks.

Well lets see

>your own engine
>your own transmission
>bridges
>small streets
>steep hills
>infantry rocket launchers
>aircraft
>tanks
>field guns
>landmines
>AT rifles to the treads
>possibly molotovs to the engine
Anyone got anything else to add to the list?

>>33881054
tank destroyers.

>>33881054
Some recoiless rifles, probably.

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>>33876578
They were actually Maybach. Also that COH quote was "Krupp steel and polished engines".

>>33876578
transmissions

>mfw they had 200km range before replacemtn was needed

>>33876578
>During August 1944, two Tiger Ausf B tanks were captured by the Soviets near Sandomierz, and were soon moved to the testing grounds at Kubinka. During the transfer, the two tanks suffered from various mechanical breakdowns; the cooling system was insufficient for the excessively hot weather, where the engine tended to overheat and cause a consequential failure of the gearbox. The right suspension of one of the tanks had to be completely replaced, and its full functionality could not be re-established. The tank broke down again every 10–15 km.
>who can defeat us
German engineering.

>>33876578
I just installed this again last night, spooky.

>>33881054
A lack of fuel and ammunition.

A small log

>>33881054
Tank traps are always oddly effective, thanks geometry.

>>33880861
I agree on the engine changes because of the pulley arrangement.

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>>33876578
It's simple: We rape the tank, man.

>>33880823

They needed 3 of the standard half-track recovery vehicles to recover a tiger. So they decided the best thing to do was to make a recovery vehicle based on the tiger to recover another tiger.

>>33877839
CoH easy

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>>33876640
>he thinks the aircraft version of the M2 fired at 850 rpm

>>33876996
It's a reference o a fucking game, autist.

>>33876578
If you're afraid, you will die. Guaranteed.

>>33877729
>So how many tanks did >>33876640 directly destroy? Did it do any better at that role?

CAS was one of the least effective ways to knock out tanks. WW2-era weapons lacked either power (.50 BMG, 20mm Hispanios) or accuracy (unguided rockets, bombs). Tests by the British indicated that even in ideal conditions, rockets had a hit rate of only about 5%, and statistically CAS overreported tank kills by about 10x. Even "good" CAS aircraft like IL-2s and Hs-129s overreported massively when kill claims are referenced against loss rates of given ground units.

In hindsight we know CAS was far more effective at cutting down supply lines- trucks or trains with spare parts, ammunition, and fuel.

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/04/04/ground-attack-aircraft-myth-of-the-tank-busters/

A-26s saw very little service in WW2, and B-25G/H saw most of their service in the Pacific, so I would be surprised if they had any actual confirmed tank kills in a CAS role at all.

>>33876578
Artillery

>>33886354
>IL-2
>'Good' in any sense of the word

>>33886440

hence "good"

>>33876640
Too much video games.

>>33883377
I work on a lot of cars and it looked like a engine hoist we use.

>>33883735
What's the name of the image of the smiling slav guy

>>33876578
Reminder that ~140 of them took part in Ardennes offensive and none of them has seen combat during it.

>>33883272
Unless you install dozer blade on your tank.

REMINDER

M1 Abrams still doesn't have a dozer blade that doesn't wrecks its suspension as a possible add-on.

END OF REMINDER

>>33876578
>Krupp steel

you mean steel that was complete shit quality by the time King Tigers were rolling out? mhm

>Porsche engines

you mean engines that were prone to bursting into flames and destroying the tank, and that took days to do repair jobs on? mhm

>>33876672
>implying the germans had effective SPAA

>>33876871
don't fall for the "muh 10 shermans for 1 tiger" meme.

Battle of Arracourt saw Panthers fighting Shermans, relatively even numbers, large numbers on both sides, no air support because of bad weather, and the Shermans had a positive KDR against the Panthers and won the battle.

>>33880732
lol you'd need like 4 halftracks to recover a Tiger. Turns out, to recover a Tiger, you needed another fucking Tiger (or two!!)

>>33882875
>The tank broke down again every 10–15 km.

holy fucking shit lol my sides

>>33886273
>gurkha pipes
wut

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Panther on the prowl.

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>>33877425
Terror Doctrine has the King Tiger, senpai.

>>33876578
>Who can defeat us?
Mechanical unreliability

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Give them a shot doctor

>>33889586
Also
>Aaah tiger she drinks fuel like it's beer

>>33889603
She weighs double their tanks our fat Tiger

>>33877770
>Give her some gas tiny
>GO! GO!

>>33886354
>yfw Rudel only killed 2 tanks

>>33887131
Rape of Berlin