Ruger Mini 14

>>33873484
i'm pretty sure it's just part of the barrel shroud and you can take it off. as to your question no, at least not a new one.

I was looking for a mini 14 walnut stock and happened upon this website - http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/Stocks.php

They sell a birch handgard thing that matches the factory wood stock. Costs $70.

>>33873484
>2017
>intentionally cucking yourself when objectively superior ARs that are more accurate, more reliable, and for cheaper exist

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That really is ugly now that I think about it. And it has 2 ugly injection spots on it too. But irdgaf.
I don't know though if a wood replacement is available.

>>33873515
>more reliable

Muh AR is the most reliable firearm ever created! It's more reliable than an AK, a revolver, and even a double barrel shotgun! Fun fact: An AR has never jammed ever for any reason! It cleans itself! /s

Retardation over, the garand design is objectively more reliable than an AR unless you purposely fill the action with more mud than would accumulate if it were dropped in puddle of mod. Mini 14s can operate with 100% reliability without ever being cleaned. No joke. Try doing that with your AR.

AR's are amazing, don't get me wrong. They are more accurate and cheaper. That being said, they are NOT more reliable than a Mini14. That's just being obnoxious.

>>33873515
Some people just like the aesthetics or live in an area where the AR-15 is banned and the Mini-14 isn't? A Mini-14 was my first centerfire rifle back in the mid/late '90s. It's a 180 series I believe and has the wood over barrel/op rod handguard.

>>33873556
>more friction
>doesn't into self regulating gas system

Spot fudd retard, enjoy bent op rod

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mini 14 is shit get a m1 carbine

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>>33873515
>2017
>implying you can only have EITHER OR

>>33873515
>ARfags actually believe ARs are superior weapons
they're a relatively decent weapon for a superb price. stop kidding yourself.

>>33873515
>more reliable
nobody tells you not to run steel cased through a mini 14

>>33873614

And yes, neither of those two things prevent a mini 14 functioning at 100% reliability without ever being cleaned. Hmm! How about that?

>>33873603
>living in a cuck state

>>33873646
The mini 30 is a different story. Not because it can't cycle it, but I've heard that the mini 30 has trouble with light-strikes on russian 7.62x39

>>33873515

Well, a thread with honest pretenses got derailed once again by shitposting

It's bait, but I'll play along with an honest response. Some people buy things for no other reason than that they like them.

One time I bought a thing. It didn't make as much sense as many other similar, cheaper things, based on it's practicality. And it wasn't as pretty as the other things in a similar price range. But I wanted it because I wanted it. So I bought it. God Bless America

>>33873515
>>33873744
>2017
>still using the word cuck and not pantywaist

>>33873744
I live in Minnesota. Not a cuck state. Make more assumptions, I need a laugh tonight.

>>33873787
>cucking yourself

Oh god it gets even more pathetic. Point that mini 14 at your skull and off yourself you waste of oxygen. That will be the one good thing the mini 14 has ever done.

>>33873484
Yeah there's just a little metal clip that holds the handguard on. You can easily swap it for a wooden one, or a different looking metal/polymer one.
>>33873510
That's pretty expensive. I bet it's possible to get a used 180 series handguard on gunbroker for a lot less.
>>33873614
It's massively over-gassed so the friction isn't an issue and the op rod system is way too short/chunky to get bent. I've owned several Mini-14s over the years and shot many more. There are failure points in the design and it is far from perfect, but bent op rods are just a non-problem.
>>33873623
It comes down to opinion but in my experience it's the other way round. A Mini-14 is an M1 carbine that shoots cheaper and more effective ammunition. That and it works better. Lacks the historical significance though.
>>33873767
Yeah I hear it's a simple matter of replacing the hammer spring with a heavier Wolff unit. Getting at a Mini-14 or even Garand trigger unit is a bit of a Rubik's cube but it's doable.

>>33873933
noguns detected

>>33873515

some of us live in ban states and kydex wraps make my wrists hurt

>>33873623
>mini 14 is shit get a m1 carbine
And get about the same weapon for double the price? No thanks.

>>33873933
I said I need a laugh, not to shake my head at how pathetic and angry people on this site are. Sounds like suicide would be a good option for you since you seem to have nothing to live for but being salty.

>>33873646
>nobody tells you not to run steel cased through a mini 14
Yeah, basically. Those complaints all come down to poorfag NEET cheapskates buying shit-tier bargain bin ammo and blaming the rifle when it doesn't work right.

>>33873982
I personally have no use for an AR that can't run steel cased just as reliably as brass cased, tbqhf

>>33873999
>I personally have no use for an AR that can't run steel cased just as reliably as brass cased, tbqhf
There's nothing wrong with being poor, anon.

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>>33874013

>Mini-14s cost more than ARs
>well you're just poor

I forgot it was friday night on /k/

>>33874013
I agree anon. But what the fuck does that have to so with my statement?

>>33874105
>I agree anon. But what the fuck does that have to so with my statement?
You said you have no use for an AR that can't run steel cased ammo. This sort of ammo is more or less invariably bargain bun crap, and the only reason to buy it is because you can't afford anything better.

Do mini-14s in wood stocks destroy their own accuracy like m14s do?
Asking for a friend.

>>33874156
I don't believe so, but they aren't really used as precision rifles to begin with.

>>33874289
>I don't believe so, but they aren't really used as precision rifles to begin with.
This is a good point. Yes, I suppose ARs are a little more accurate than Mini-14s, but neither of them is a precision rifle and nobody should buy them if that's what they want. It's like saying that a Prius is faster than a Honda Accord. Yeah, maybe, but so what? Both can do the speed limit, and if you bought either for street racing, you're a retard.

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>>33874150
>implying

Im a high volume shooter. I shoot steel cased ammo frequently, for instance, when I'm shooting a non sanctioned match where I wont have a chance to recover my brass like I do when shooting at home.

Again, I have no use for an AR that cant shoot steel cased just as reliably as brass cased.

Stay salty faggot

>>33874338
An accord is a good bit quicker than a prius actually. You shoulda said a civic or fit vs prius. But im nitpicking, bc i get your point.

>>33873484
Look into Choate handguards- think they are under $20 and much cleaner looking.

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>>33873484
Yeah there's lots of alternatives.

Like an Ultimak rail (though it won't cover the oprod).

>>33873515
>Autism

>>33873546
I like it on the old GB rifles and AC556 rifles because they kind of fit their unusual aesthetics.

>>33873623
>more expensive weapon
>more expensive ammo
>less powerful ammo
>less range
>less accuracy
>shit magazines

I like the M1 but breh, no, it's just not as practical.

>>33873627
AR15s genuinely are 'better', but that doesn't make the Mini-14 bad.

>>33873953
>matter of replacing the hammer spring with a heavier Wolff unit
I've heard of people snapping their firing-pin with excess stress from that, I'd give it a go with some cheap Tulammo before actually mucking with the gun, to see if it eats it, a lot of people have no trouble at all.

>>33873646
Most ARs eat steelcase fine, as does the Mini-14

>>33874150
Ok, but here's an argument: if your AR can't run generic steelcase ammo like Tula or Wolf, it probably isn't a very good AR, even a bargain-bin M&P-15 Sport will eat that without complaining.

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>>33873515
gr8 b8 m8, i'm ir8

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>>33874338
>Yes, I suppose ARs are a little more accurate than Mini-14s, but neither of them is a precision rifle and nobody should buy them if that's what they want.

The AR is inherently more accurate by design:
>100% inline action and stock
>8 radial locking lugs make for very consistent lockup
>barrel is trivial to free-float

It really isn't difficult to build an AR15 which shoots 1MOA or less, meanwhile, an off the shelf Mini-14 will shoot maybe 2.5MOA with really good match ammo and the shooter having a good day.

If you want to shoot 1MOA or less with a Mini-14, it can be done, but only with the special Target model, which is .223 only and a fair bit heavier, on top of being costlier, featuring no iron-sights, being intended for using only with a scope or other optic.

>>33874861
>The AR is inherently more accurate by design
>It really isn't difficult to build an AR15 which shoots 1MOA or less
>If you want to shoot 1MOA or less with a Mini-14, it can be done
You do realize that these statements all add up to a big pile of nothing, right? Basically, what you told us is that you can make an AR pretty accurate, and you can make a Mini-14 pretty accurate. Okay, and...?

Also, I repeat: Neither of them is a good choice as a precision rifle. In fact, .223 isn't a good choice for precision shooting at all, no matter what you're running it through. That's not what that caliber or those rifles are for.

>>33874345
>Im a high volume shooter. I shoot steel cased ammo frequently, for instance, when I'm shooting a non sanctioned match
Uh huh

>Competition shooter
>Using cheapshit steel case .223 instead of handloaded 6.5 Creedmoor or .338 Lapua
Tell me another one, bro.

>>33874924
>he thinks precision means range
>he thinks spending 150 bucks on a free float handguard and getting groups half the size as a fully accurized mini14 is insubstantial
>he thinks head shot targets at 600+ yards is consistently doable with his 2moa mini14
Ask me how I know you just punch paper for an hour once a month?

>>33873626
People who bitch tend to be no guns, they build an identity around their 'knowledge and get super butthurt when people tell them to stop being autists.

>>33874972
>>he thinks precision means range
>>he thinks head shot targets at 600+ yards is consistently doable with his 2moa mini14
Get back to me when you figure out how you just contradicted yourself.
>>he thinks spending 150 bucks on a free float handguard and getting groups half the size as a fully accurized mini14 is insubstantial
The difference in price *is* insubstantial to me. I'm not a NEET poorfag, and a few hundred bucks to have something I like is trivial.

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I want a mini 14 like pic related

>>33875018
Nigga, 600 yards isn't distance shooting.
As for the money, you could spend your year's salary on w mini14 and only end up with a rifle that shoots as well as a 1200 dollar AR. Thanks for letting us all know you just like to print groups at 100 yards though.

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>>33875049
>600 yards isn't distance shooting

>>33875049
500 yards is pushing it for either of these rifles, no matter how accurized they are. In fact, it's pushing it for .223 altogether. Yes, I know that it's *possible* to shoot farther with them with some semblance of accuracy. But beyond a certain point, it becomes the wrong tool for the job, and the only reason to keep using it is that you can't afford more than one tool.

"To the man who only has a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

>>33873933
>one good thing mini-14 has done
>what is AC-556

Maybe stop being so autistic for a change. It does wonders for your social life outside of a Ugandan chant and rain dance board.

>>33875104
600 yards is pushing it for .223, that's exactly what precision shooting is. Reliably getting head shots with a 5.56 semi auto is incredibly satisfying.

Would you call 600 yards with a .338lapmag with $1200 worth of glass and a custom bedded stock precision shooting? Hell no, any jack hole with a chart can do that.

600 yards with an AR is definitely precision shooting, it's NOT distance shooting. And you just can't do that with a mini 14. Especially not for anything resembling the same price range.

>>33873556
Dude Mini 14s aren't that reliable in my experience

>>33875161
Okay, yeah, this post totally confirms what I suspected - that you can only afford one gun, that it's an AR, and that you're making yourself feel better about your poverty by convincing yourself that it's the perfect tool for every situation and you don't need anything else anyway.

I won't argue with you anymore. I'm not about kicking people while they're down.

>>33875172
>Dude Mini 14s aren't that reliable in my experience
And what exactly *is* your experience? Something tells me that this resumé will not be particularly long or impressive.

>>33875208
I sold a mini 14 because it would jammed about twice a mag on average, and the guy who I guy shooting with has the same problem. This is all with OEM shit. Take a step off your fucking high horse, asshole. I'm not saying they are bad guns, I'm just saying IN MY EXPERIENCE, they aren't that reliable.

>>33875201
Kek, at what point did I say that an AR was the right tool for shooting 1,000 yard targets at a high power match? Guess what, it's not. Big shock. The only thing being discussed was mini14 vs Ar15 and the possible precision of both rifles. If you want to move those goalposts back and talk about MUH LONG DISTANCE RIFLES then your mini14 isn't going to do any better, is it?

>>33873556
>That being said, they are NOT more reliable than a Mini14
The Mini 14 or the M14 design in general has never been known for its reliability.

>>33875262
>Kek, at what point did I say that an AR was the right tool for shooting 1,000 yard targets at a high power match? Guess what, it's not. Big shock. The only thing being discussed was mini14 vs Ar15 and the possible precision of both rifles. If you want to move those goalposts back and talk about MUH LONG DISTANCE RIFLES then your mini14 isn't going to do any better, is it?
Nope. Which goes right back to the point I've been making this whole thread, which is that out of the box, the AR *is* nominally more accurate than a modern Mini-14 (as opposed to an old pencil-barrel one, which was much more inaccurate), but neither of them are precision rifles, and for the jobs for which both of these rifles *are* the right tool, the difference hardly matters.

>>33875282
>The Mini 14 or the M14 design in general has never been known for its reliability.
Wrong.

>>33875307
The Garand was considered reliable for its time, not the M14.

>>33875297
Then what is the right tool for semiautomatic fire at targets from ranges 400 to 600 yards in which you may either engage with two shots to the torso or 1 shot to the head, misses not counting against your time?

Anyhow, this whole thread is butthurt AR fanboys autistically screeching over the fact that the universe contains a perfectly acceptable competitor to their beloved raifu, for which they have a bad case of oneitis.

Like any competing products, each has pluses and minuses. The AR has a trivial advantage in accuracy and a nontrivial advantage in price and parts availability. The Mini has a trivial advantage in reliability and a nontrivial advantage in aesthetics and being legal in ban states. Either is a fine rifle for what they're designed for.

>>33875345
>Thinks a semiauto is the right tool for precision shooting, long distance shooting, or long-distance precision shooting.

wew lad

>>33875365
Is 400 yards really long distance for you? Where do you live that you can't get that much distance at a range?

>>33875320
>The Garand was considered reliable for its time, not the M14.
The Army wanted an excuse to switch to their new Armalite toy, and found it. Oddly, what they found was actually way *less* reliable. I don't recall reading many accounts from Vietnam of GIs getting killed while trying to clear jams out of their M14s.

>>33875365
>goes to a 3 gun match, brings his fudd gun and a 10-18 power scope
>Nantteen elebun
>mossington 875000
>Manages to get shots on 5 targets and gets a DNF on the first stage for taking five minutes.
But it's the right tool for the job, guise!

>>33875382
Thanks, I get all my info from the Military channel as well.

>>33873556
>Retardation over, the garand design is objectively more reliable than an AR
Behold, the most retarded statement uttered on /k/ for at least the last 72 hours.

>>33875374
>Is 400 yards really long distance for you? Where do you live that you can't get that much distance at a range?
Nice try at changing the subject.

Want to shoot accurately at a distance without breaking the bank? A Tikka T3 will run you $600-700 if you shop around. If you put as much energy into your job as you do into autistically defending the AR on teh intarnets, you'd be able to save that much up in no time at all.

>>33875392
>But it's the right tool for the job, guise!
Nice fanfic. Not a good substitute for facts and data though.

Only if you get it pre-1980's I believe. I have one that was given to me by my grandfather with the older configuration, and it's a great shooter. You can find them for around $800-1000 secondary, which is what you'd pay for the new model as well. It's just hard to find them with good condition stocks.

>>33875425
The AR is perfectly suitable for precision shooting at any range the caliber is capable of. The same definately does not apply to the mini. Its time to accept that the AR is equal or superior in every objective way.

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>>33874924
>.223 isn't a good precision round
Depends on your fucking range, doesn't it?
It shoots flat, that matters, and the AR15 is inherently a very precise gun which is simple to accurize.

If I'm going to be shooting at 800yds or longer, then no, .223 wouldn't be the best choice, I would probably go for .270 or 6.5mmCM

>>33875425
>hunting gun for shooting steel plates
>bolt action even though the main focus is on hitting targets for time
You keep talking about the tool for the job, when are going to realize I'm not parking my ass on a bench and shooting at circular targets on paper at 100 yards?

>>33875449
>The AR is perfectly suitable for precision shooting at any range the caliber is capable of. The same definately does not apply to the mini. Its time to accept that the AR is equal or superior in every objective way.
Again, that's like someone saying they drive the fastest minivan in production anywhere. Yeah, I guess, but so what? They'll get their kids to soccer practice 30 seconds before all the other moms. Impressive. But that's not what that vehicle is really made for, and if you show up somewhere looking for a street race like you were Dom Toretto, everyone is going to laugh at you, and for good reason.

Stop trying to make the idea of the AR as a precision rifle happen. It's not going to happen. Not now, not ever.

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>>33875572
>You keep talking about the tool for the job, when are going to realize I'm not parking my ass on a bench and shooting at circular targets on paper at 100 yards?
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were an operator. Please continue to operate operationally.

>>33875575
The AR is a precision rifle you fucking mong. Theyre easily 1 MOA capable and can be noticibly more accurate than that if youre not a retarded poorfag who knows nothing about precision shooting, like you clearly are.

>>33875431
The fact that not a single multi gun shooter uses a fucking bolt action to hit targets out to 600 yards and they all do just fine hitting their targets?
PROOFS!

>>33875587
>The AR is a precision rifle you fucking mong. Theyre easily 1 MOA capable and can be noticibly more accurate than that if youre not a retarded poorfag who knows nothing about precision shooting, like you clearly are.
ROFL

>>33874936
>there is only long range shooting competitions
You'd be a fucking retard showing up with a .338 Lapua rifle for Three Gun

>>33875585
>he doesn't shoot 3 gun
You should try it, it's a lot of fun.

>>33875594
Oh, i get it. Youre just a salty mini owner who decided to shit up the thread instead of admitting youre wrong.

>>33875245
You're the kind of guy who would argue Glocks aren't actually reliable because he bought a second hand lemon.

>>33875597
>You'd be a fucking retard showing up with a .338 Lapua rifle for Three Gun
Okay, let's be clear on what your whole argument is. It's not that the AR is a precision rifle, or that it's the right choice for accuracy at a distance. It's that the AR is the most accurate rifle available that still meets the requirements of one specific type of competition shooting, which includes the fact that it has to be a semiauto.

Okay, fine. But 1) that still doesn't make it a precision rifle, and 2) that doesn't mean anything to anyone who doesn't do that one specific type of competition shooting.

So the AR is perfect for your hobby. But not everybody is in to your hobbies.

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>>33873484

>>33874936
t. Someone who has never participated in organized shooting sports

>>33875601
>Oh, i get it. Youre just a salty mini owner who decided to shit up the thread instead of admitting youre wrong.
How dare I shit up this Mini-14 thread by talking about the Mini-14!

>tfw this is how mini 14 threads always go

>>33874345
>Im a high volume shoote

THIS. Sometimes its better to go quantity>quality, especially for training for scenarios which dont require much precision.
If im planning on plinking all day, im going with the sketchy Russian .223 in a spam can for 200 bucks rather than the same money getting me a third of the good shit.

>>33875627
>t. Someone who has never participated in organized shooting sports
Again, okay, I get it. You do Three Gun, and the fact that the AR is the best rifle for your specific hobby has convinced you that it's the best rifle for everything, ever.

Scott Adams calls this the "I Am The World" fallacy.

>>33875631
If minifags just accepted the fact that the mini is objectively worse, ARfags wouldnt have so much fun shitting on them.

>>33875668
I'm already on that page.

>>33875608
Could you explain to me how your statement has any relation to mine? Or are you just a fucking idiot with no explanation to back up his statement?

>"The Mini-14 is inaccurate, unreliable, and won't shoot steel case ammo!"

LOL, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2m7aF60GD8

This thread is full of shit-tier fuddlore and fail.

>>33873953
>cheaper on gunbroker
nah, those early minis are kinda collectible now
plus it'd be beat up and less likely to match the rest of your gun

>>33875642
*listening to Scott 'Everything Trump does is right Adam's
Lol fucking retard.

>>33873627
>Superb price
ARs are better and less expensive. Go back to your grave Bill.

>>33877867
He was talking about the AR

>>33873515
Now that this thread is spiraling the bowl, please explain how by any gun functions as cucking oneself

>>33879123
No he wasn't. He was replying to a comment that already said ARs were the better rifle.

>>33877837
>*listening to Scott 'Everything Trump does is right Adam's
NOT listening to Scott "Said Trump would win when all the so-called 'smart people' said it would be Hillary in a landslide" Adams.
LOL keep on winnin' bro.