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Would you provide covering fire with your ccw?

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Would you provide covering fire with your ccw?
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>>33869264
It is the logical thing to do, the guy is getting his shit kicked in.
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>>33869264
No, you are likely to get shot yourself when more cops arrive and see a civilian brandishing a weapon.
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No fuck u and fuck pigs.

I'd jus keep driving and laugh

I like how dat image was originally ment to show hatred towards pigs and now u boot licking faggots try to turn it around.
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>>33869264

In regards to pic related, I'd render aid or call for help or drag him to safety. Obvious stuff. If I happen to have to protect him or myself from lethal force in this situation then it's just like any other defensive situation.
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>>33869277
Black lives matter dindu detected!
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>>33869290
>pic related

OP's pic. I doubt a /slick/ SMG would be involved
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I live in California. What CCW?
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I'd mag dump then post a trophy shot on /k/.
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>>33869264
sorry, not even close.

last thing i'm doing is getting shot by some injured distressed cop who is probably having baghdad 2003 flashbacks and is mere moments away from shooting every potential threat inside a 300 m radius

getting the fuck out and worrying about myself, unlike him i'm no longer obligated to risk shit for anyone. he chose to risk it every single day he puts that uniform on.

if I'M getting shot at or victimized in any way ofcourse i'll assist - i'm not pulling over on the highway to check out why some cop is all bloodied up tho
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>>33869264
That's not my job.
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>>33869264
No, you would just make yourself a target for whoever did that and for the police. Not worth that kind of risk just to help the organization that limits my right to bear arms
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>>33869276

You're a dumbass.
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>>33869264
he'd do the same for me.
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No.

Because the cops will in the end find some way to charge me with something. They have all sorts of immunity and a powerful union behind them. I don't.
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>>33869326
>unlike him i'm no longer obligated to risk shit for anyone

Cops aren't obligated to do shit for you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
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>>33869264
I would, but that is because I legally feel the officer's life is at stake. Also got insurance.
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No
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>>33869314
No, you live in just one of the communist parts.
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>>33869326
This we Ancap n shit now
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>>33869264
No. Theres a good chance youll be charged with something, especially if the cop fucked up somehow. Once you intervene you become the scapegoat.
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>>33869529
Haha not every day you see a literal physical meme, nice get
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>>33869264
Yes because I have Morales unlike some people in this thread the give gun owners a bad name by being little selfish pussies.
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>>33869502
This.

Police have no legal obligation to protect citizens. Their main objective seems to be catching people doing illegal things and making them pay fines to city, county, state, or federal governments. Do these fines actually rectify the "wrong doing" or create any justice? Does the money just inflate an already swollen government?

Most cops are lazy government workers who just want a cush job with benefits and retirement packages. Instead of being a fucking clerk or other useless bureaucrat they want to intimidate people face to face, hand out tickets and put up yellow tape after serious crimes are committed.

There are probably decent cops out there, but 90% of the ones I've met are leech / bullies wearing a uniform. Fuck all the fake protect and serve honor bullshit, they just want job security.

I would only use my ccw to protect myself, loved ones, friends mainly, and maybe a cop, but it'd have to be an extraordinary situation.
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>>33869264
Depends on what he was going beforehand.
Same as anyone else.

Cops are just normal people in blue safari khakis.
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>>33869587
I have Juan. What's your point?
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>>33869264
No, why would I help a thief?
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>>33869264
Yes, I would.
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>set phone to record
>set in front pocket
>go in

I'll use that in court if I get nailed for anything, and try and help to the best of my abilities.
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>>33869587
>tips thin blue line hat
>m'officer
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>>33869587
t.bootlicker
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>>33869587
Is this you? Bootlicker.
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>>33869277
>faux tyrone larper detected
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>>33869666
>bootlicker for actually trying to help someone that might be killed or greivaly injured if I do nothing
Nah I am just not some punk ass bitch like you who are the reason this country is filled with selfish twats who only care about themselves and who they can fuck over.
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Depends on the situation. Cops are pricks. If I was standing over an officer with my ccw out, I guarantee they would shoot me. If they arrive as I am shooting the criminal that hurt the officer, they would shoot me. I don't trust American police to make snap decisions.
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Cops in my city are pretty chill. They only want to make things better and get home at night.

Example: Roadblock on a Saturday night in November.

"Hey officer, just picking up a pizza"

Officer waves me through yelling "This guy has a pizza, let him through"

Damn right I am going to defend them. That pizza was good.
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>>33869789
try to get a CCW in LA then
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It depends. If he's fighting blacks, muslims or commies, then I would help him. If not, then it would be harder to judge who is in the right.
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>>33869264
Only when they ask me to.

abcnews.go.com/US/video-shows-passerby-shooting-florida-deputys-attacker/story?id=46143376
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>>33869277
>jus
>dat
>u

If you're going to disrespect police, could you do so in a way that doesn't make the reasoning behind your dislike so apparent?

Tl:dr quit typing like an illiterate retard who is either a wigger, nigger, or other parasite on society's back.
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Would you help this police officer?
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>>33869922
That is some planet of the apes shit going on there but he would be the last straight man on earth.
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>>33869264
Live by the sword, die by the sword. I can, do, and will protect myself. And I surround myself with others who will also do so. I have no intention of risking my life to protect an enforcer.
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>>33869895
Poor guy. You could tell even though he was concealed carry he didn't want to shoot someone.
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>>33869502
his obligation is to deal with whatever bullshit did that to him, i'm not obligated to help him do it. and doing so is opening up a gigantic can of fucking worms that you're going to have to clean up either in a hospital or in court
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>>33869601

You realize the reason cops are not legally obligated to help people,
is because that would mean anyone who became the victim of a crime could sue the police, right?
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If its an excuse to get rid of some filth from this town
t. flint resident
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>>33869922
If I was Russian, probably. As a tourist who doesn't know any words apart from 'cyka blyat', it's probably not a good idea.
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>>33870068
What if you know cheeki breeki as well?
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>>33869895
>drops his gun and edgewalks away
>didnt point down first
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>>33870080
Maybe but it's still quite risky.
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>>33869276
Cops are civvies too.


Retard
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>>33870068
>be murrican
>inna russia
>hear a big commotion while walking down the street
>go to check it out
>see a huge mob of skinny, dieseased slavs marching and shouting while waving flags
>shit, did the soviet union come back?
>nope
> just a gay pride parade
>notice they seem to be gathering around and attacking someone
>it looks like a police officer but he has the homo on the back of his shirt
>don't they realize he's one of them?
>think to myself,whatever, better go help him
>charge.exe
>push my way through their lines toward the officer while screaming IDI NAHUI CYKA BLAYT DEBIL VOT TYUVO MAT
>punch one of the homos in the back of the head with an audible crack
>he collapses in pain
>other homos back away and start to scatter at this aggressive display of toxic masculinity
>one of the homos wearing a g-string and carrying a flag charges me while screaming BYLAAAAAT and octave higher than i thought men were capable of
>grab the flag from his hands and push him over
>he falls on his face with his ass in the air
> scream CHEEKI BREEKI and shove the flagpole up his ass
>he seems to enjoy it
>weird, whatever
>turn to help homo officer to his feet
>he pats me on the back and says something in russian that i don't understand
>he ushers me to come with him to a bar
>get wasted
>black out
>wake up on a frozen bench wearing some kind of old cotton coat
>such is life
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>>33869922
I bring word from President Trump. An alliance once existed between slavs and men. Long ago we fought and died together.

I come to honor that allegiance
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>>33870328
>lost to the zone
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>US Cop
Nah
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>>33869264

Depends. If shits a shit skin or meth head, I'll help the cop out
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Id provide medical assistance. I'd defend my person or a disabled officer if I had no other choice but only then.
Like mentioned above. Having a gun in your hand with cops around is a good way to get shot...repeatedly.
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>>33869774
Pretty awesome that they didn't check your papers.

Hail Arstotzka
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> be concerned citizen
> go to the aid of downed officer
> draw weapon to defend said officer
> hear "He's got a gun!"
>From the ground next to me.
>get shot in the back by wounded cop in trying to save.
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>>33869622
I have Hector, a Maria, and 2 Jesuses. I'll trade you my spare Jesus for your Juan. That'll give me close to the whole set, which I plan on cashing in for Boardwalk.

Anybody else play Taco Tuesday Bingo?
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>>33869264
>Covering fire
no
>Wait until the threat leaves then drag his ass to relative safety
maybe
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>>33869264
maybe that entirely depends on the situation. Lawyers are fucking expensive and I doubt the average police department would foot the bill
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>>33869272
>>33869277
>>33869587
>>33869755
>>33869918
>>33869944
>>33870575
> Wounded respected officer of the law.
The only correct answer in mercy kill shot out of misery.
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>>33869349
That's the legislative branch of the fed, you nigger.
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Has there ever been a case of a cop shooting someone who was trying to help them?
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>>33870947
Woops wrong pic.
This one.
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>>33869264
Covering fire? What kind of retarded citizen hero fantasy is this?
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>>33869601
You sound like that guy that got caught with weed on more than one occasion in high school and it accounted for the vast majority of police encounters. As a result, 90% of the officers you've met are "bullies" because they ruined your chance to finger bang Mary Thotson in the gym bathroom.
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>>33869264
I was actually watching a police dash cam where the guy beat the shit out of the cop and a random motorist stopped stopped to use her radio to call for help
If I was CCing maybe I'd help but otherwise my main concern is helping an officer as safely as I can
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>>33871022
You're one dumb motherfucker if you think busting someone for weed was worth that enmity.

>wouldn't help. If they don't care about me I don't care about them.
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>>33871232
STAY BTFO
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>>33869755
Wasted dubs on a bootlicker
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>>33869264
Depends.
Who's shooting at him?
Most of the time the answer is yes but if the man is known to be corrupt or has demonstrated himself corrupt I would probably just walk away.
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>>33870994
No.

Whereas there have been many cases of a civilian using lethal force to defend a distressed officer.
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>>33869290
Christ I want an m12 so fucking bad. Doubt I'll ever find one
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>pull out gun to help cop
>cop's backup shows up and shoots you thinking you were the perp
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>>33869277
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>>33869277

this desu
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>trusting cops just because you don't want to be like smelly antifa liberals

Please tell me you're all not this retarded.
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>>33869264
I would probably hand him a bandage or something, but I ain't going Rambo just for a cop.
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>>33871556
That is honestly my greatest fear in any situation where I draw my ccw.
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>>33870964
Which would be irrelevant if not for local enforcement
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>>33871022
Nay, it's lazy bureaucrats that piss me off champ. Cops are generally lazy bureaucrats with guns and handcuffs. Gov workers are notoriously difficult to fire even if they suck at their job, cops are no exception to that rule, even when they commit the crimes they arrest people for.

But yeah I'm sure they ruined plenty of people's lives over a plant too.
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>>33869277

>That spelling

Too stupid to follow the law, and hate cops, huh?
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No way; obviously it's dumb to pull a gun out within twenty miles of an injured and freaking-out cop and I could save his life and he'd still probably end up shooting me. If that goes okay, there's a good chance his buddies will shoot me when they see me near an injured cop while I have a drawn gun. If, by some miracle, I defy all chance and come out of this unscathed I will have the biggest investigative butt-fucking of my life as the police try to find a way to say I was the reason the cop got injured because that's how the intersection of law, liability, insurance, and unions works. Societal expectations and the law have almost entirely isolated police from their larger communities. Unless the cop is somewhere looking for you, if a cop is around looking for trouble you should be very wary and try to leave the area immediately.
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Only if I get to kill a nigger
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>>33869264
Hellllll no. Reasoning:
1. Other cops might light you up
2. You're now legally liable for something, probably
3. You might die compared to if you had just run the fuck away to safety
4. Fuck the police
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>>33869452
Hmmmm pic reminds me of shadowrun
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>>33869452

no he would not
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>>33869277
/K/, easiest board to bait/troll
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>>33869643
That's gonna do you a whole lot of good when either the bleeding/concussed officer shoots you in the back or his buddies roll up and shoot you right off the bat because you're the only motherfucker around with a gun.

And that's assuming they don't just LEEROY JENKINS you at 60mph with the squad car, like link related
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFcEMMZju7U
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>>33869264

Negative. How does it benefit me?
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>>33870994
No but in just the last 3 years there's been, what, about 120 cases of cops shooting the wrong person during an altercation or cops just outright opening fire on someone unarmed and minding their own business.

Like the 2 newspaper ladies during the Dorner hunt.
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>>33869918
Like I'm gonna take dat from a faggot tripfags I was hood raised


Go suck there dick lame ass bitch.
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>>33872503
Mostly fudds in the making, welfare queens and uneducated rednecks that have never been exposed to irony or sarcasm.
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Depends on circumstances.

Not finna get in a shoot out with a guy on some of that dorner shit with a plate carrier and AR with my little CCW pop gun.

OTOH if some hood got lucky, dropped a lonesome piggy and is walking up on him to finish the job I'd probably render some ballistic assistance. Particularly if his back was turned to me or some such.

I don't particularly like pigs but they're the biggest gang around and they have government backing. exactly the kind of people you want to have owing you a favor.

And for all the people worrying about being scapegoated that's unlikely as hell. So long as your actions are in line with typical SD laws, stopping an attempt to grievously injure or kill a LEO for example, you'll be fine. That shit wouldn't float in a non LEO involved situation and that prosecutor's gotta work with those LEOs in the future. No way in hell he's gonna waste his time on a obviously fruitless case that's gonna make him look like an asshole to his boss, the judge, the public, and LEOs.
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>>33872472
>cops are trigger happy assholes and will shoot anyone.
>except when it's to help someone in danger.
Wait... That's... thats...*nigger logic*
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In my state, you're obligated to help when ordered to by an officer. I regard that as if and only if, because if i wanted to get into firefights i'd enlist.
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>>33870436
Hahahaha!
Underrated
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>>33872848
typical bootlicker lie. in reality, cops are power-hungry snowflakes who react to any perceived slight to their authority with lethal force

a civilian being attacked does not slight his authority.
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>>33869264
If it doesn't concern me or my family, fuck it. My cc is for these alone. Fuck everyone else. Not getting jammed up for some most likely piece of human trash, isn't worth the effort, or lives potentially saved.
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>>33869412
Yeah, because that's not possible, or even probable. Cops shoot first, ask later. I work alongside cops, and I know how they do things. They tend to be just as bad as everyone else. Welcome to the world outside of your musty basement.
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Watch the movie "Hell or High Water" the whole damn town not only provides backup in a high speed chase but cover fire for the officers on foot. That's Texas for you or at least what some people think.
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>>33869326
>risk it every single day he puts that uniform on
You know the leading cause of on-duty death is single car accidents, right? You know it has been this for over two decades, right?

Being a lineman for the power company. Now there is an actual risky job. And those guys are heroes. They work day and night, rain or shine, to keep you comfy and to keep the technology our social structure depends on running. Cops, they are just overgrown hall monitors that write you citations.
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>>33869277
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>>33873296
>never entered into such agreement.
> don't want to make things worst excuse.
> coppers fault for being a hero, teach stupid a lesson.
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>>33873599
Rural areas for sherrifs maybe.
Not city police as assumed in picture.
>t. Texas.
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>>33869264
You get out of the way. Uncoordinated (help) is more often than not a net hindrance. They carry ARs in their trunks now and don't need you at all.
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>>33873799
Exactly this.
>while I pray that nigger pop a few in the badge and make only 1 nigger left.
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>>33870964
And the people that enforce it, retard.
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>>33870964
>people will obey bureaucratic diktats without the threat of a bunch of goons barging into your house at 4am and throwing you into a government cage

whewlad
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>>33869643
>I'll use that in court if I get nailed for anything
If you get nailed with bullets, you're not going to court, you're going to heaven or more likely hell.
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>>33870178
No they're not, they're enforcerers of the illuminati
retard
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>>33873797

We feel the same here, fuck staties and FUCK city cops. County sheriffs are based (and occasionally corrupt)

>t Maine
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>>33869264
yes id help and when more police arrive, id immediately drop my weapon
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>>33869543
>live in Ventura
>liberal with guns
>hostile everywhere if I show my power level

Help.
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Not rendering aid to a police officer in distress while there is no risk of harm being done to you personally is a crime in Funland... so I guess I have to...
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>>33873797
You know how I know you haven't seen the movie? The police are not in the picture I posted. Yes though it is set in rural texas though but not police the movie features Jeff Bridges as Texas Ranger.
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>>33869543
>>33874162
>>33874162
>Ventura County virtual shall issue

YEA OKAY I DOUBT THAT. Calling bullshit on a chinese meat bun forum.
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>>33869473
This, I don't even talk to cops because they have quotas for arrests and citations. I think cops are important, but I'm not taking any chances.
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>>33874019
>occasionally corrupt

lolwut

malfeasance and corruption is literally their only means of existence in their podunk shitholes
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>>33869264
Hmm, lots to consider.

The potential positives:

Actually, I'm not so sure what the positives are, aside from the general notion of helping out your fellow man.

The negatives:

If you're dropping shots in this situation, there's no way anyone's just gonna thank you and send you on your way, as you're now part of it.

At the very least, if nobody decides to charge you with anything, you'll still likely need to give statements, make court appearances, etc. A giant hassle and interruption of your life is the bare minimum you can coast away with.

Slightly worse would be charges filed, and the potential for jail or prison time, which would relegate you to second-class citizen status if you got convicted. No more guns for you, but you would at least be alive.

Worse than that would be injury, and worse than that would be death, which, although it puts an end to all the problems in your life, is not a preferable outcome for a majority of people.

I'm thinking no. No I would not.
The wise thing to do would be to leave.
Call someone, if you feel it necessary.
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>>33874601
>do everything right
>don't get hounded by media or DA until they find your posts on the internet about normies and micro transaction hate againt "AAA" companies

sir youre under arrest.

>breaking news "hero downfall into antisemitism"
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If he's injured and the suspect isn't around, I'll call 911 or ask if he's alright. The second I see danger, I ain't pulling a CCW, I'm getting out and calling them saying I flee'd danger.

Guns + Cops = Best way to get fucked.
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>>33874639
Shit I forgot about the media. That's another in the negatives pile.
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>>33874601
If the DA tried to charge a citizen for saving the life of a cop that DA would lucky to ever have a job again, even the police department would be on that DA's ass.
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>>33874734
You seem upset.
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>>33874823
No I just know how to troll since I'm an oldfag from 07 who happens to not be white.
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>>33874162
Alternatively you could try not being retarded
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No. He or any officer nearby might take me for a threat. And unlike him, I am not shielded from civic liability. I'm the one that gets sued, not him.

Like many old fine customs, the natural alliance between a gun-literate public and the police has been eroded perhaps beyond repair.
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test
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>>33874884
>I am not shielded from civic liability
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>>33869774
Same with mine
>Go with buddies to pick up a bag-o-dis
>Blaze up at hook ups place
>Drive home through sobriety checkpoint
>Cop notices we all have seat belts on
>Gives the 4 of us free cheeseburger certificates for McDonalds
>We make 1 more stop before heading home
And that's how I had the best burger of my life.
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>>33870436
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>>33874776
Assuming your actions directly saved the cop's life, perhaps.

If you simply tried to help and it didn't really affect anything one way or the other, my guess is you'd catch a case for something.

Citizen participation/involvement in law enforcement affairs is deliberately discouraged, because citizens are generally not helpful. I imagine unless you really saved the day, they'd get you on something, just to reinforce that.
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>>33875009
Yup. They want to be needed and hate competition.
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>>33875061
Well, I can't speak to that, but I can certainly see why someone wouldn't want people bumbling around trying to "help" when there's the potential for serious injury or death involved.
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>>33869922
This is right before Lot offers them his loli virgins
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>>33872503

>/K/
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>>33870994
>>33871408
>>33872595
So you think if a cop made the mistake of shooting you, he'd be honest and tell the truth? That it would be recorded as happening the way it did, and not the way the department and local media wishes it to be portrayed? Jesus McFuckin Christ.
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>>33869277
Black, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
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>>33875592
I'm nither white black or stupid u dumb honky boot licker.
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absolutely fucking not, I dont want to go to jail because some retarded faggot thought it would be a good idea to play Mr. Big Swingin' Dick to a guy with a gun. cops are all faggots with chips on their shoulders, maybe they will learn to be humble once they cant walk again

Hopefully its a "human race" that kills him, so that they can get jumpy when they pull over a single white male.
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>>33870068
Nigger, you have a battle cry.
That's all you need.
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Cops aren't required to save your life, why the FUCK would I risk Officer Dumbcuck shooting me because I'm standing over the body of a bleeding cop? If he's worried about getting injured as a cop, perhaps he should have considered this outcome while in the academy.

Why should I help a cop?
So I can be maimed from a gunshot to the spine?
So I can be jailed for attempted murder because I moved him and fucked up his injury?
So I can be a victim while they get to pretend to be heroes?

Warren v DC, cops have literally zero obligation to help you in any capacity. You could be hanging off of a building begging for help, and they are 100% within their legal rights to drink their coffee and play on their phone as you fall to your death. There is no reward for helping a cop, the best you'll get is a "thanks". The worst is death, imprisonment, or injury.
No thanks.
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Damn right I will , I don't care about the uniform it's a guy who got blind sided doing his job. Uniform just makes it easy to know who not to shoot.

>>33870996

Tell me about the rabbits George. ....
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>>33875614
On the other anon's behalf, allow me to apologize and offer a revised version of his statement.

Willfully ignorant and a nigger is no way to go through life, son.
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>having gun out near police
>having gun out near wounded police on the ground
1. Am I being detained?
2. If so, Lawyer. Further questions answered with "Lawyer."
3. If no, leave and don't come back.
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>>33875718
I was born dat way I didn't choose this life like other fake people who,had options to do good and stay away from shit, I did what I did.


Still fuck pigs it's there job to arrest me and it's my job to not get arrested.

Either way I been playin it cool for some years now trying to do things the legal,way.
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>>33869264
Hell no,Im not putting healthy foot in a bag of thorns.
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I just don't know what to think when I see threads like this. It'd be a lie to say that I've always wanted to be a cop. A position of power - of any form - is the absolute last thing I want. But I want to help people. I want to help form stronger communities. I never received any help from my community, which makes me want to foster connections with it all the more.

Is a police department any place for an idealist? Is it wrong of me to want to become a police officer and work to build a nation that won't need police officers anymore?
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>>33875782
lul@u
do you actually think being a police officer is some noble ideal?
50% of their job is giving regular people tickets for doing nothing
25% of their job is showing up to domestic/drug related calls
the last 25% is paperwork
85% of the people you deal with will be blacks, and then every single day your department will drill you with anti-racism to keep the naughty thoughts away, which will cause you to overreact when pulling over a 19 year old white guy driving to work, since he could be a potential killer!!!
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I believe that if I have the right to inform a law enforcement officer in the line of duty that I am presently and legally carrying a sidearm on my person or in close vicinity within a vehicle in a concealed capacity, then that is one hallmark of being the good guy and a point where some officers start to trust you more if they aren't outright paranoid.

So long as I have to inform a law enforcement officer that I am legally carrying or that I am in the vicinity of a firearm, the second one of them is under attack and are about to be overwhelmed is the second where it's best to stand in. Sure, shit, I'm a faggot for wanting to help a cop, but if there's an officer standing his ground against six or eight gang members with no other patrol officer enroute or if his patrol buddy's wounded, it's my obligation to provide covering fire and my car's obligation to soak up a few rounds.

We have the right to these weapons for multiple reasons, and one of them is in order to protect ourselves and those around us. A uniform doesn't change who you are.

Besides, my county's nowhere near cucked.
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>>33869264
No, using your gun in a situation where police are already involved is a good way to get shot or end up in court. My CCW is purely for self-defense, not public service.
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>>33875737
Either a nigger or troll.
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>>33875859
Just what kind of senario is playing in your head? That you would stand in the open, shooting and hollering?

If I saw some cop on the ground getting gangbanged, I'd simply draw my weapon from behind a car, shoot everyone around the cop and walk way. No need to get further involved.
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>>33873469
I bet you use the term "statist" at least once a day, don't you?
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>>33875737
>Resisting arrest

Great idea, man. Being arrested is TOTALLY the same as a street fight where you get declared the winner and get to go home with mad respect afterwards. You absolutely should always resist arrest for anything. Draw a knife if you have to. Yeeh man. WOOOOORRRRLLLLL STAAAAAAAR RIGHT NIGGAHS?!!!
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https://youtu.be/nwQ5dUqcQCQ

This kind of scenario is why anyone has a ccw at all you guys. In a life and death scenario like link related, you have a duty to assist in my opinion.

>A driver who attacked a Florida sheriff's deputy Monday morning was shot and killed by a bystander who warned him to stop beating the officer, according to a report.

>The incident began at around 9:30 a.m. when the Lee County deputy tried to make a traffic stop on Interstate 75 in Estero. Instead of complying, witnesses said the driver took off, reaching speeds of more than 100 miles per hour.

>The deputy chased the suspect onto an exit ramp, where a witness said the suspect got out of his car and assaulted his pursuer.

>Shanta Holditchtold WZVNthatthe suspect pulled the deputy out of his car and "just kept beating him and beating him ... throwing him to the ground and punching him in all different directions."

>At that point,WINK reported, another driver got out of his car and ran to the scene. He told the suspect that he'd shoot him if he didn't stop beating the deputy.

>"[He] refused to get off the officer and the officer kept yelling, 'shoot him, shoot him, shoot him,' Holditch said.

>When the suspect didn't stop his attack, the third man shot him three times. The deputy was not hit. The suspect later died.

>"I heard like three shots. He fell down on top of the police officer," said a witness who would only give his last name, Smith. "After a moment, the police officer rolled him back over, got on his mic, then rolled over back on the ground besides the guy."

You'll probably have that gun taken away by the courts for a few months, but you'll eventually get it back. And you'll probably never have much trouble with the LEO in your area from then on because everyone knows you as the hero who used their second amendment rights to save a cop.
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>>33869543

>tfw I live right on the border between Ventura and Los Angeles, but technically live within LA county

I truly do hate this state some days.
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>>33875900
>tackled by 3 men
>tazed twice
>fully subdued
>who has cuffs? nobody?
>fuck. POPOPOPOPOP
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>>33875937
>Is a murder suspect
>Resists arrest
>Taser does nothing
>Still resisting
>Draws knife
>Is clearly willing to use it
>Gets shot
>Wooooooow unfair
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I almost got ran over by a cop

So no
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>>33875910
>In a life and death scenario like link related, you have a duty to assist

If you know what you're doing and you've got a good read what's going down, absolutely. Save lives and fill the baddie with lead.

If you're just chasing gunfire run the fuck away, you're not the police.
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>>33875929
Peruta~~~

Gorsuch pls
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>>33875900
Yeh as in run da fuck away so I don't get a charge you du,bass .

>>33875878
Not trollin u no life cosim fuckin honky
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>>33875955
>>33875937
>>33875900

I swear u faggot white boys are not only no guns but also never lived a life I can't wait to meet this chad you faggots admire so I can laugh with him at you beta fags.
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>>33875882
What kind of scenario is playing in your head that you think a cop is going to be alone getting beat up, you're going to just shoot people in front of said cop (realistically cops) and walk away unscathed? The only place in the world where your situation is even semi realistic in on TV screen mate.
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>>33875996
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>>33875996
>mate
Your oppinion doesn't matter you out of state faggot go fuck a kangaroo or go fb ix ur crooked teeth tea sippin bitch.
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>>33875984
>>33875993
>>33876013
Please stop talking like a retard.
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>>33876010
Where is this filmed?
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>>33876101
Please stop molesting your sister and raping your dog and not season your chicken like a normal person.

Please stop shooting up schools cuz ur white and lame and listen to linked park.

Plz stop dressing like a faggot.

Also put some bass in your voice you talk just like your mom.
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>>33876110
Outside a Greek parliament building, during the debt crisis.
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>I live in Chicago and am of (partial) african descent.
>There would be little to no chance of me assisting a police officer beyond basic medical aid.
Personally I have no problem with the police. I have friends and family who are cops, and while maybe a third of the ones I've met are scumbags, most are just normal guys. However, there's no way in hell I'd draw anywhere within Cook county. Assuming I don't immediately get shot by his buddies, I'm going to get anally raped by the long dick of the law. Chicago's such a liberal shithole that I could prevent 9/11 pt II and still get fucked over. Do you know what would happen to a "cop loving uncle tom" in cook county jail? I do, and it's not something I intend to experience firsthand. If I were in one of the conservative suburbs I'd have no problem putting a bullet in the back of someone's head to help a justified cop out, but within the city you're shit out of luck.
>TL:DR The CPD can kiss my half black ass, but everyone else gets a pass.
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>>33876118
>niggers can't fuck their sisters, they all have different daddies so it's ok
>niggers just keep their dogs on the porch
>niggers can't find the schools because they've never been but if they could, they'd shoot them up just like everywhere else
>niggers dress like they bought everything from the Salvation Army because they did, malnourished 5 foot 4 inch man let's never being able to find clothes that fit
>niggers have lots of bass in their voice because their heads are hollow and their noses are like tubas
The only thing you were even close to making a valid point on is chicken, it's the only thing you do right.
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>>33869264
Entirely depends on the situation.

If someone's life is legitimately threatened pretty sure you can legally jump in but there's always a risk of consequences when you try to help people.

You can save someone's life and still end up with them actively trying to ruin yours. While most people will be grateful there's always the risk you just saved crazy.
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>>33876118
That talk of telling me to stop raping things sounds... ironic, considering how black men over represent the number of rapes committed in America by more than 105% of their proportion of the total American population. Ditto for random murders. You're also wearing jeans around your knees while telling others to stop dressing like faggots? Come on, homie.

I understand that you feel as though you may be targeted without reason or would be treated unfairly by a cop, but the truth is that cops won't do shit to you so long as you don't do stupid things around them. That includes attacking them or looking like you will attack them.
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>>33876013
I'm in the states fuck ass, why don't you go suck Ronald McDonald's cock you fat homo.
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>>33875929
>>33875981
805 anons.

What guns you have? comments on stores or ranges in the area?
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>>33875929
You live in a nice area. Sucks they lowered the speed limit though on the freeway.
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>>33876472
you filthy fucking nigger i will SHOVE A POGO STICK SO FAR UP YOUR FUCKING ASS I SWEAR TO GOD YOU FUCKING FAGGOT I BET YOU ARE A FUCKING CD SISSY FAGGOT YOU FUCKING JEW I WILL SHOVE MY HITLERTODROD SO FAR UP YOUR FUCKING ASS YOU FUCKING INBRED KIKE.
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>>33876478

>HITLERTODROD

It was the mustache! I knew it!
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>>33876485
>My rod
>my tod.
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Knowing cops they'd probably arrest you after for something if the reinforcement cops didn't already shoot you for being armed and next to a distressed cop.
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>>33876118
Wasn't the 2017 San Bernardino school shooting done by a nigger?
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>>33869264
Covering fire is generally done using an automatic weapon in a military context to hinder an enemy's ability to target friendlies. So no, I would not break out the M60 that I'm somehow concealing in my pants along with my fat ass and enormous penis and proceed to unload 7.62mm real-fucking-NATO with reckless abandon.

I will how however carefully and deliberately shoot a person attempting to kill a police officer.
I will then holster my weapon and render what aid I can to either party. You know, like a rational person might do.
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>>33875782
consider fire dept, or paramedic.. similar 'helping people' general ideology, without the fucktardedness that comes with being a pig
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>>33869277
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>>33875678
>moved him and fucked his injury

Okay I thought some people actually believe police are shit but this has to be bait. If, in the process of your actions you save them from greater harm (i.e. death) ), then by law you are not liable for any lasting damages.
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>>33869264
I'd skeedattle out of there and call 911 for him. That's about it.
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Nope.
> Safety of the public is the responsibility and duty of Federal, State and local governments and LEOs
> Saftey of the individual rest with the individual.
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>>33876118
>not season your chicken like a normal person.
lost
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>>33869264

Depending on the circumstance, yes.
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>>33869264
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>>33876148

Suicide by cop. A fitting end for a greasy shitskin.
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>>33870115
Good thing it wasn't a Taurus.
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>>33869264
No. Even if I wanted to, I only have 8 shots.
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>>33880627
1911s aren't for carrying.
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>>33880653
Not a 1911.
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>>33869264
Fuck no. Cop shouldn't of gotten himself in that situation to begin with. Some backup will come and get shit confused. Oh, yea, and I forgot. fuckthepolice.
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>>33870873
Fucking kek this whole exchange. Thought the same thing.
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>>33874019
From rural Maine, now living on southern maine. Fuck em all.
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>>33880653
>implying like 5 different implications

have your ((you))
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>>33870436
/k/ and /fit/ have a meet up day.
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I would help.
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>>33869264
Yes.
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>>33873728

I don't want to bash on cops but he's 100% correct about linemen.
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I'd intervene if the situation appeared suitable, but I live in a Red State where justifiable scumbag removal is acceptable. If I'm near enough to act I'm near enough to be in danger, and it would be satisfying to scatter some Skittles.
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>>33869264

HES A GOOD GUY, HE DINDU NUFFIN.

Why are bootlickers so fucking pathetic?

Isnt /k/ supposed to be "anti-tyranny"? Isnt that one of your main arguments?
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>>33869264
No, because I am denied the ability to carry in my country, and police here are the leading anti-gun group, pressuring the govt to ban and register guns.
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>>33883944
>sees a police officer
>cries tyranny

I bet you're a wannabe sovereign citizen.
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>>33875889
>>33884140

samefag
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>>33884228
>filename
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>>33884268
>what is a vpn
>what is a proxy
>what is a phone

stupid nigger
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>>33883944
A lot of people on k are LEOs, or at least Fire/EMS/Security
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>>33884286
Thinking anyone would give two shits to go through that for posts 19 hours apart

>sovereign citizen intelligence
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>>33884318
>expects people to believe you are not a weapons grade autist

whewlad
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>>33884333
>this level of mental gymnastics

What's next?
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>>33884380

dat damage control
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>>33875782
>Is it wrong of me to want to become a police officer and work to build a nation that won't need police officers anymore?

Yes, unless your goal is to end up with a bullet in the head like Frank Serpico.
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Anyone who says they wouldn't is an edgy teenager trying to be a hardass because they got a speeding ticket. Helping is the most pragmatic thing to do, especially considering that being the guy that saved a cop's life is a great way to get leeway later on when I need it.

Cry more antifa fags.
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>>33884518
I'm edgy for not risking my ass for a "sheepdog?"

All I gotta say is baaah.
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>>33874975
yeah just in a car with four dudes for no reason? go sober
>>33869264
I would try to make sure the situation would have the safest result for all people
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>>33875910
Could have happened with less violence.
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>>33884140
>>33884140
Really super curious on the whole "sovreign citizen".
I've done my research on "them" and can pan out a percentage of what I've found:
Vaild legal arguements that somehow they manage to screw up in the end and confuse the curious and the jury.~%60, ~%35 valid arguments that work (stuff that should be squared away) when carefully translated into the correct legal jargon. ~%5 composed of "regular protester" buzztalk, it started looking religious/cultish.
The only people asking about a sovcit were police. Other than that, nothing else.
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The Police do nothing but keep us from actually cleaning up our nation.
Our nation is in the grip of filth on the street and in mosques.
Our nation is lead by politicians who tolerate the invasion of Islam and other DARK perversions.
Africa and the middle east is on our doorstep and the only thing keeping the natural immune response...the proper response...to this problem...is politicians and their lapdog police.

Currently the police as they are serve the wrong masters. They do not serve the public or the tax payer. They serve the mayor and a prevalent political agenda that has been in place since the organized stock exchange.
Criminal elements and foreign enemies will continue to flood your nation, states and communities with impunity due to the current police model.
but the short answer is.
NO - I would not help him.
He would not help me.
This is the life you chose.
You live by the sword you die by the sword.
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>>33885175
>TL;DR
>samefag.exe
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>>33869264
No because I'm in California, and any cop who enforces this states shitty laws doesn't deserve anything
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>>33869295

Jewish kike shill trying to make people believe that if you don't like the elites enforcers you're automatically a nigger
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>>33869277
>give this nigga a volley
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>>33869276
>This.

Plus being a white knight cuck and getting your shit rekt for drawing a gun anywhere near a police shooting.
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>>33876298
You can look up whatever's close to you on google, I usually go down to SD to buy guns.

CZ75 P-01

A bunch of legal hunting shot guns
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>>33869264
I'm a bong so I'd probably throw some rock's or something before getting shot.
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>>33869264
>>33869272
>Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law
The only way to successfully deal with police is to respectfully decline to assist in any way, shape, or form. Do not answer questions without legal council. Do not tend to wounds. Do not bring them water. Any hiccup that occurs while you offer assistance can and will be used against you once the matter is brought to court.
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>>33888555
first of all, what sort of state are you in that the cops are just as bad as the femenists? not even California has those cops.
second, how bad can you fuck up while
>Do not bring them water
you're over dramatic.
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>>33876299
.......to what? 65 from 75?
Humboldt has been 65 for as long as ive been around
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>>33869264
Yeah, against the cop.
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>>33869543
Pic is a lie. Effectively, most of your green is "issue if you are buds with sheriff and CoP.
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>>33869601
This
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>>33869264
Depending on what state im in
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>Giving a shit about cops

Nah.
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>>33884306
>Fire/EMS
Respectable and useful
>Security/LEO
90% useless high school tier bullies that couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to mop rain in the muhreens so they decided to become a cop instead. Nothing like kicking around normal people for a little power rush, and there's plenty of muh brutherhud and muh thin blue line bullshit to keep their egos inflated too.
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So many cop hating libshits itt
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>>33888943

this desu
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>>33872622
>hood raised
>posts on 4chan
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>>33869276
mostly this.
so the short answer would be no, but there is always going to be exceptions.
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>>33872635
>uneducated
implying you're educated.
kek
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Death to police
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>>33877201
Lol fucking kill yourself
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>>33869264
Oh fucking god please don't. The last thing I need is some untrained idiot trying to hit something near me with his tiny pocket gun.

Only shoot if you know you can hit, you make your intentions known (keep in mind I'll be deaf), and I'm far the fuck away otherwise you're getting some hot .40 too (not intentionally but likely because I won't know wtf is going on)
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>>33885440
Voice your grievances in a civilized manor you big lipped watermelon eating nigger
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>>33893606
>civilized manor

oh wow
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>>33869755
Dubs of truth.

Besides im not a bootlicker. I'm a jack booted statist, and your due for reeducation citizen.
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>>33893594
>Oh fucking god please don't. The last thing I need is some untrained idiot trying to hit something near me with his tiny pocket gun.
This is a private citizen not another officer.

Oh you think the police are trained and competent.
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>implying any of the beta males that make up 95% of this board would do anything but shit their pants and run at the first sound of a gunshot or violence.
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>>33893698
>You must be one to know what it's like..
oh Please Anon-sensei, teach me to be sperc oppa 1337 like you.
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>>33869264
Yes, obviously.
>get owed a favor by a cop and everyone who works with him
>possibly get into the newspaper
>help another human being
>>33869277
shouldn't you be on a street corner dealing crack to children right now?
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>>33893760
Just observation of most Americans after working EMS for close to a decade. 99 times out of 100 the response is
A. Stand and do nothing
B. Watch
C. Whip out cellphone and film

Now add in the fact that the internet is where people use anonymity to talk themselves up as bad asses, coupled with /k/ being full of MELON LABIA BROTHER fudds, it's not unreasonable to assume that most people here when presented with a critical incident would completely lock up and/or panic and run.
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>>33893848
You've got it wrong bro.
When you pick up a gun cus a thug party is tearing up Homestead Actual, you bet we're gonna see you and pick up our pieces and L- slam and DP those fu kers asses without condoms till they BTFO
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>>33893661
We go through like 6 weeks of training with people from gunsite, thunder ranch, and tactical response among others. We can at least hit a vitals sized target at 75 feet 4/7 times and clear malfunctions you'd be sitting there scratching your head at.

The cops can't shoot thing is a meme, maybe just in my state though. I was surprised how legit the training was. It's civilians that can't shoot. How often do most of you who consider guns a hobby honestly train? And by train I mean have had actual training by professionals that you've furthered on your own? Do you do legit drills? Do you know and follow the fundamentals of marksmanship or just keep in the loop of bad habits? I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'd rather it be a wake up call. I feel most of you guys are good chaps and I'd like it if you could get at least half your shots on target when the shit hits your pants.
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>>33894212
>tactical response

no wonder cops suck ass at shooting
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>>33894223
They're nationally certified instructors. Most of the trainers were jokers but a few were grand master marksmen or whatever you call them. 3 gun champions. I would assume most agencies that aren't broke are getting their new officers trained by nationally certified instructors, problem is most won't continue their training and shooting accurately is a perishable skill for some.
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>>33894212
>Cost prohibition
I got that partially solved with a few buddies.
>practiced using orange metal pipes as weights to get scenarios right at semi ghost town in normal cloths looking stupid.
>read and whiteboard study
>Train at private bays to practice snaps by the numbers.
>Learn about med and IFAKS
>get a pro range when we get good money I guess and we don't look to much like scrubs.
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No if hes gettin shot at that his biddness
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>>33894283
>nationally certified instructors
certified by whom? thunder ranch is reputable only after decades of hard work by clint smith, tactical response is the textbook definition of joke training

>or whatever you call them
sounds legit

>3-gun champions
>for an actual gunfight
topkek. there is a reason jerry miculek isn't teaching self-defense courses.
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>>33869264

I would stand at his back, that the world might never overtake us.
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>>33894589

Yuck, freckles.
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>>33870042
I can't blame you. Maybe the cops will give you a bottle of water even.

>t. Kalamazoo resident
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>>33870436
Kek
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>>33894650
Yuck, faggot.
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