Why the hate?

>>33856212
Poorfags on this board have a kneejerk reaction to hate anything HK, despite the fact you can get that gun for around $500.

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>>33856212
I had one. Traded it for a repro PU. The Vp9 was a great range toy and I taught a lot of people to shoot on it because it's so easy to manipulate(makes it great for taking women to the range). I prefer my USPc though.

>>33856212
No hate, but I've never actually seen one for sale. HK is Unicorns around here and I don't buy guns I can't hold first.

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>>33856221
Nugget I traded it for

>>33856221
I carry one in the winter. It's great all around.

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>>33856212
>It's good
Try great F A M.
>glock suckers and sig heils need not apply

>>33856288
I carry my USPc in the fall and winter, that's in addition to my shield, otherwise I generally just carry the shield.

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>>33856289

daily reminder even german cops use glocks

oh the irony

>>33856349
Considering OP isn't a German cop, that doesn't really have anything to do with anything

>>33856375

>hk = german company
>glock = austrian company
>german cop, austrian glock
>not german pistol

gee i wonder why that is

oh yeah glocks are better lol

>>33856221
Range toy... might aswell buy some cheap p99 clones for redundancy and call it a day. VP9 as part of your Poon Tang ops or shtf.

>>33856349
Why can't I find anything about this online? Where did you get your info?

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>>33856212
Because this exists.

>>33856558
Not really, I don't have bear paws, but HKs fit better in my hand than any glock.

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>>33856349
not jsut the cops mate.

>>33856212
no. it's trash. it's not as bad as USPs and P30s, granted, but it's still trash.

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>>33856860

>>33856866
Test

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>>33856990

Some guy was memeing it too hard so /k/ hates it

>>33856212

anything german is automatically good

jawohl

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>not expensive
>costs more than $250

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>>33856212
I just don't like that mag eject lever. Totally a preference thing.

>>33857068
Didn't know Jennings had a rep on k...

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I like mine

>>33856860
How is it trash?

>>33857093
I thought it was odd until I used it in person. I actually prefer it now.

>>33857225
Someone on here (who probably has never even handle one lol) said that the magazines rattle, is that true? I'm picking up a P30 tomorrow regardless, I'm just wondering.

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>>33856860

>>33857269
I guess it does just boil down to muscle memory huh? That's just too much of a change for me.

That's really the whole problem. HK already makes overpriced trash so when they make a poorfag gun its even worse than regular poorfag shit. Also
>striker fire
>2017

>>33856212
because it is objectively trash compared to everything else they produce.

t. hk fanboy

>>33858213
>striker fire
>not superior
The most consistent pull outside single-action, a more closed system of a gun

>>33857334
I've never experienced magazine rattles

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>>33856219
This.

>OH NO IT'S CHEAPER THAN A USP OR P30 SO IT HAS TO BE SHIT
>B-B-BUDGET HK
>A GUN'S QUALITY IS DIRECTLY IN RELATION TO ITS PRICE POINT AND NOTHING ELSE

Sure, it's a 2-3 year old gun but HK knows how to engineer handguns that are built to last. See:
>USP
>P2000
>HK45
>P30
>>33858213
>HK already makes overpriced trash

Go neck yourself kid. R&D,testing, import fees, marketing and export fees come into play. You probably think Glocks should cost $200 too you little shit. $500-$700 for a handgun isn't even that expensive.

>>33858619
Thanks. That guy was probably parroting shit. Can't wait to shoot it tomorrow.

>>33858603
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>33858809
Obvious marketer. Go try reddit.

>>33856219

It's $499 on cdnn today in fact.

>>33856349

Government purchasing and quality have no connection.

>>33856212
P30 and USP series exist and it didnt need a striker fired afterthought version to try and take some quick sales away from glock

theres pistols that are made from the ground up to be glock competitors, and theres pistols that are just "meh might as well make a striker version"

honestly if you're spending more than glock prices on any striker fired DAO pistol you should be ashamed of yourself, buying bronze-plated shit doesnt make it not shit

>>33858809
>HK knows how to engineer handguns that are built to last.

H&Ks handguns that are built to last cost $300 more. Like with just about any other firearm, you get what you pay for.

>>33856756

Y NOT BOTH

>>33859663
>hi-point
>$190

it will outlast any HK
check mate, king me

>>33858809
>You probably think Glocks should cost $200 too you little shit.
They should, you know-nothing redneck.

It's a fantastic pistol and that's coming from someone who hates polymer striker fires.

It's built like a tank and I've never seen one have a credible issue.

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>>33856756
No need for infighting HKlads

>>33860201
No it won't.

>>33860223
>HURR DURRF THE SUM OF THE PARTS IS THE ONLY COST/OVERHEAD OF PRODUCTION

Just how fucking uneducated are you?

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>>33856212
I like mine.

>>33856860
are you smoking something the USP is amazing as is the P30 they developed them straight form the mark 23, my god are you that retarded

>>33856860
In what aspect are they trash you fucking retard

>>33861280
What holster?

>>33862015
http://bluelineconcealment.com/light-bearing-holsters/hk-vp9/

>>33862082
Thanks anon. That looks like good shit.

>>33857093
I didn't like it either. Pretty good gun other than that. The mag release just felt wrong to me.

>>33860263
If you have a P30 v1 (or anything with light LEM) how do you like it? Thinking about getting a P30L light lem and a p30sk light lem to make manipulations of my nightstand and carry gun the same. Would require selling my M&P 9mm and springfield xd subcompact, but I'm not really attached to them and the LEM seems pretty neato.

>>33856756
This.
>>33862985
Not that anon but I have a P30 LEM V1 and it's great. It's feels like a single action with a long trigger pull. Grip is comfy, the only downside is the price of mags and it doesn't come with night sights because Cuckland doesn't like anything radioactive.

Def get the P30L/SK combo.

>>33863088
Well, sounds like it's time to sell 2 guns for the price of the P30SK and save up for the P30L. Only thing left is to go find a place to rent.

Got a serious hardon for them after seeing the 75+k rounds in under a year on PF.

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>>33862082
Thanks again, pic related
>>33862985
>>33863088
Picking up my P30 V1 in the morning, wish me luck. I thought LEM was the dumbest shit ever until I tried it.

>nice ergos
>ridiculously large grip compared to capacity
>includes cannibalized bits and pieces of decades old designs stitched together in some sort of frankenstein's monster
>Braided, glued in place, and non user touchable trigger return spring

Meh, it's ok i guess?

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>tfw my SK came in today
brb cumming my pants

>>33863191
>I thought LEM was the dumbest shit ever until I tried it.
Me too, anon
But it's fucking amazing
I do not regret getting my P30SK in LEM
>>33862985
>M&P9
>XD
Nothing of value would be lost
Having mags in common is great between P30, and VP series as well

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>>33863516
This is only 12 hours away. I'm ecstatic right now

>>33863516
Only value is the M&P was my first gun, but I'm really not very attached to either of them. Think I'm gonna sell them off and grab some HKs assuming I like shooting the P30 the local range has to rent.

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>15 rounds in a full-size 9mm pistol
>Gay Ray charging tabs
>beavertail rubbed a hole in the side of my thumb's first knuckle (MCP) after 200 rounds
>grip texture was meh, added a Talon grip
>slide and recoil spring sound like an old screen door when racking
>$699 for the LE model that I had

The only two things it did better than my G19 was slow-fire accuracy and sub-200 round ergos. G19 points better, but that's subjective.

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>>33856212

Would you walk into a BMW retailer and buy the cheapest car they have?

VP = Volkspistole. People who can't afford their USP.

>>33863632
>HK grip texture not aggressive enough
>champions glock
wew las

>>33863655

Proves how bad the texture was. Fairly common criticism of the VP9.

>good
>jams cause of rain

>>33863773
t. gay poo poo head

>>33863675
>tfw the grip texture on my Taurus PT111 is better than the one on my VP9

Well, okay, but the VP9 fits better in my hand.

>>33858390
>objectively

Explain then

There's a P30 in my area for a great price, but it's the V3. Are the triggers that bad on them? Seems to be a common complaint.

HK fags think it cheapens the brand. That is literally the only problem they have with it. All the sudden their precious brand became affordable to most everyone and is no longer an "exclusive club". Same reason people shit on luxury car companies that market and entry level offering. see maserati ghibli.

>>33863643
I'd rather have the cheapest BMW than the most expensive honda. This mentality is stupid and basically woman tier.

>>33856212
Its inferior to the H&K p30.

>>33856558
You understand that individual police departments are allowed to chose their sidearms, right? There are tons of Walthers, HKs, Glocks, etc being used on the local and federal levels of the German government.

glockfags really are the worst

Probably because they tried selling a $500 for $650-800 at shops and gunshows for a year. They've gone done near me recently but still around $580-630 in price

>>33857334
I own a VP9. The magazine does rattle just a little bit in the bottom. Unless you're OCD about that sort of thing, you won't ever notice it.

>>33863643
In my country the USP is only marginally more expensive than the VP9. VP9 = 800 mountain shekels, USP = 600 mountain shekels, price of McDonald's Bid Mac = 8 mountain shekels.

>>33865432
>Cops can choose their sidearm
>Still choose a glock

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>>33865432
yeah, and that's what speaks in favour of the Glock you trash heap.

>>33866133
Yeah, and people buy madden every year. What's your point.

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>>33856239
>You traded a PU Mosin for an HK

>>33866176
No kid, I traded the HK for the mosin.

>>33856212
Because it wasn't as good as HK's hammer guns but it wasn't as cheap as the established striker guns from other companies. It pretty much just kinda falls through the cracks.

>>33858603
DA/SA with a manual safety (NOT a decocker) is best. It's the safest, you will always use the same trigger pull outside of second strikes (which you can't even do with striker guns), and it has the best feeling trigger.

>>33864947
>thinking we give a shit about cheapening of the brand.
no you moron, we care cause is just another striker fired jump on the bandwagon attempt, sure glock got the right idea they built what will arguably be seen for net 50 years, BUT HK always went their own way in terms of engineering. the USP, the mark 23 are built better.

>>33866288
>the USP, the mark 23 are built better.

Nein.

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>>33862985
>If you have a P30 v1 (or anything with light LEM) how do you like it?

I actually have 2 of them (but P30Ls), they are my EDC, range gun, nightstand gun, they are all I use.

LEM is my favorite trigger system ever - even when I was an FNSfag I would espouse the advantages and fantastic design characteristics of the LEM module.

Rather than type it all out, I'll let the experts explain it: https://pistol-training.com/archives/8549

>>33866307
Mk 23s are really nice tack drivers.

>>33866399
sure, a 45 the size of a deagle is everything I ever wanted

/sarcasm

I really like the VP9 but am also considering the PPQ, I like the PPQ probably better but the ambi controls on the vp9 really appeal to me as the GF is a southpaw....what do /k/

>>33856212
1. It's HK
2. People watched the MAC video and believed it to be an accurate assessment (fails when wet? kek.)
3. It's the cool thing to do.

Great ergos, great barrel, good trigger for a striker, reliable as a service or carry pistol. Only situation I might have reservations about would be if I were a snake eater crawling through miles of mud (which everyone on this board pretends they are).

>>33866421
The PPQ M1 is more ambidextrous than the VP9, but it looks like shit.

>>33862082
can confirm, great holster. shipping was maybe 2 weeks?

>>33866171
Uh, that people like cops who actually depend on their sidearm still choose glock when there are other options

How dense are you?

>>33863231
>non user touchable trigger return spring

huh? you can do it with a needlenose if you're a masochist, or the HKParts one is like $12

>>33866337
>https://pistol-training.com/archives/8549

Is that Steven Seagal in their banner?

>>33866460
yeah im having a hard time finding a gun shop that has a m1 in stock, im a new gun buyer and i would like to buy one from a shop cuz i have little experience with ffl transfers and what not

>>33866527
Yeah, and cops are all infallible judges of which plastic gun is best. Of course the gun that's marketed out the ass is gonna sell well you stupid faggot. That doesn't make it the unassailable best choice.

>>33856860
>USP
>Trash
Kys

>>33866857

It'll be easier to order one from an online distributor or gun store and then just provide them with the correct FFL holder you want them to ship to. Just find a local gunstore that takes in transfers and ask them how much it'll cost for the transfer.

The m1 while still ships to the U.S. by Walther they will be in limited quantities because the m2 button mag release is so incredibly popular among U.S. shooters.

>>33866417
If you don't have tiny hands it's a great pistol without being gimmicky like the deagle.

>>33856212
Because HK hates us.

>>33857225
>Tactitubby covering your 6
FAGGOT FAGGOT. FAGGOT FAGGOT.
BITE MY BUTT. BITE MY BUTT.

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>>33856558
>german cop, austrian glock
got the rhymes mate

>>33866864
>marketed out the ass

If its a shit product people wouldve stopped buying it back in the 80's

Glock haters really are fucking retarded

>>33867164
>This guy knows the lore

>>33866421
PPQ has slightly better trigger, but also has an ugly ass WALTHER logo on the frame.

>>33867718
The day that came out my cousin got one and I was visiting my great grandmother who was a German immigrant. She didn't even know what a faggot was until we had to explain why my aunt was pissed. She thought it was fucking hilarious. Good times were had.

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>>33856349
>Hans, vhat if we put ze red dot on ze red dot!

>>33864163
You can fix that grip problem pretty quickly with talon grips. Honestly I don't think I've found a gun that comes with a factory grip texture that's aggressive enough.

>t. P-07fag

>>33857334

Clearly the one who has not handled one is you, cause if you did you wouldn't of ask that retarded question.

Has anyone experienced the VP9 trigger pinching issue? After handling one I kinda want it

>>33856212
I've shot a VP9 and wasn't impressed, but wasn't disappointed either. It's decent, but I like some others better and some others worse

>>33860223
>I'm a proud poorfag and Jennings owner
Stop shitting up threads about real firearms.

>>33866133
Police DEPARTMENT, not "cops", you retard. It's all about the money.

>>33868132
Based German immigrants are based.

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>>33863538
Got it

>>33869229
There are alot of departments that allow COPS to choose, you fucking idiot.

And guess what, shit tons of them still choose to carry the glock.

>>33867718
What lore?

>>33866526
I'd you get the .06 or .08 kydex?

>>33869404
>>33863516
I'm
>>33862985
this anon. Turned out I sold my XD mod2 and Ruger LCR for a P30SK and ammo today. Cannot wait to get shooting, the trigger feels pretty nice.

>>33874739
Good on you. When I picked up my p30 v1 yesterday I shot it alongside a ppq and a Daewoo dp51 my friends brought. We all agreed the p30 was great. The LEM almost reminds me of the daewoo's "triple action" if it was every shot.

>>33856558
they blow up you retard

>>33859605

Sure they do. Now go sit in a corner.