Prepper homes

>>33849682
Only applicable if you're building a new house, but my house has a layer of concrete inside all of the exterior walls so bullets can't pass through. The man who built the house originally was a former cop.

>concrete lined walls
>bulletproof glass
>weatherized Level IV armor plate shutters instead of wood, and make them actual shutters that can swing in and cover the windows
>ideally this process would be automated
>small dormer window facing the road you can use as a sniper's nest
>astroturf over punji traps instead of a lawn, with copious "keep off the grass" signs to avoid legal liability

>>33850162
Ok then let's say you are building from the ground up

>>33850382
I don't think the traps will be legal even with the keep off the grass signs.

>>33849682
Basically concealed Home Alone tactics.
>>33850742
Sandbags t. Just in case it floods.

>>33850772
Pest control, wolfs.

>>33849682
This is why you don't buy a house unless it's a bunker or missile silo.
Build a house, make it a proper 2 foot thick concrete walls with 400mm of steel.
Also have an above ground portion.
Other than that find a house like this in your area and if SHTF go there and take it over.
In my area the local ISP and power company has this sort of bunker downtown for emergency situations and there are also ammo bunkers around.

>>33850742
I plan to have a have a 3/4 sunken "basement" that places the "ground floor" windows too high to easily reach, and also just happens to provide a good firing slit akin to a bunker.

For my first floor level I'm going to have medieval style arrow slits, as well as a hidden door per room to satisfy fire code.


Whole house will be built out of ICF, preferably with an extra layer of concrete or brick on the exterior to provide additional shielding.

If I can get away with it I plan to have an escape tunnel. Not sure if I'll be able to manage that in secret (in fact, probably not) but I'd rEALLLllllly like to have an escape tunnel going to a hidden bunker.

As another anon mentioned, good shutters are also a must.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulating_concrete_form

Build your house out of this shit, and follow it up with bulletproof glass in steel frames.

Bam, basketball Americans can now unload a Tec 9 into your house and the first you'll notice of it is when you go outside to get the morning paper and notice holes in the siding.

>>33849682
You can look at this under the OIBUA section and get an idea of how to defend then include them into your design.

https://mega.nz/#!X44nDb5Q!foTtMNZJA_ICRsllY_G7Ww5odzgmrW76B8tARUhtmCk

>>33849682
I literally looked at that house on google 2 days ago with my gf looking up dream houses together lol

just live somewhere where nobody will see your house, I personally live in a converted shipping container. Also if you're in a city, you're doing it wrong.

>>33850162
>thinks bullets can't go through concrete

>>33850742
2 inch steel plates in the walls. Automatic riot shutters in the windows and doorways. Metal door and window jams. Bulletproof glass.

>not wanting your house to look like an autistic doom fortress

But seriously though this topic is comfy as fuck and this thread has potential

Will be monitoring

Do from what I can see the general go to is:

>ICF walls (can be shaped into almost anything you can think of)
>Reinforced/bulletproof windows
>Shutters (also reinforced)
>Escape tunnel
>Basement
>Multiple access for each room (possibly some hidden)
>Don't make it look autistic

Is that generally all you need or am I missing something?

Make sure it's earthquake-resistant, too, guys. Nothing would suck more than coming home to a pile of rubble collapsed on to what used to be your guns or your dog because the armor wasn't designed to resist seismic activity (or buried charges for that matter).

>>33851225
Oh and don't live in a city.

>>33850995
They can, but the plan is to have a wall made out of Siding-Concrete-Gravel-Concrete-Insulation-Drywall

Bottom floor only, but if that's not close to bullet proof I don't know what will be.

>>33851289
Doesn't that only really depend on where you live? Like if I lived in Cali yeah understandable but Alabama? Maybe not.

Also what is the likelihood of coming up against buried charges.

>>33851315
Location can make it more necessary, but you will not regret having a house that is built more stoutly than it actually "needs" to be.

My dad is an engineer and when he went to school at Carnagie Mellon in the 80s the saying was "When in doubt, build it stout, out of stuff you know about"

Back before everything was cheap and underengineered

>>33850382
>>astroturf over punji traps instead of a lawn, with copious "keep off the grass" signs to avoid legal liability
there are no situations where that's legal

>>33851344
Interesting but how would you earthquake proof a home?

Also hopefully not diverging to far from the main topic but what is the best way to protect things like wind turbines/solar panels/ water collection?

Man, I need to get on y'all's level.

I got a couple ARs, some bic lighters, and some extra canned food.

I need to think bigger. Civil unrest is coming sooner or later probably.

>>33850742

Earthship with actual building materials.

Find a hilltop with a south-facing slope. Dig a basement, line three sides with CMUs filled with crusher run. Exterior stone or brick veneer as needed, 2x1s with drywall or other finish treatment inside.

South wall is going to be angled glass, two or three layers. You're going to have two raised beds for planting in between each set of glass walls, they need to be terraced or stepped up to the living space. Last one, build a CMU knee wall, fill this one with rebar and concrete. This functions as a Trombe wall but also provides a raised parapet overlooking your most vulnerable area of approach.

If you want to get fancy, go with a reinforced concrete roof, ideally one that can support both solar panels and a green roof. This adds up to a little more than a normal load on a floor, it will need to be designed by an engineer. Make the roof structurally independent of the three CMU walls.

What you end up with will look superficially like a post-modern house, but will be hardened against attack on all but the front, resistant to radiation (even from fallout on the roof) and will be energy efficient with natural heating and cooling processes.

When you are asking around for engineers and GCs just act like a hippy leftist who's all about the environment man, should throw them off sufficiently to keep them from thinking you're building a bunker.

>>33851225
Grow a hedgerow around a wrought iron wall for an extremely difficult to penetrate perimeter, and have a gate so you don't have to get out of the car to enter the doom fortress.

Also, buy a bulletproof car

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>>33851524
>Bulletproof car

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>>33851524
The Germans had hedgerows, it didn't work out for them too well.

>>33851650
Their mistake was not having the iron fence to go with it... Silly Germans

>>33851368
Additional support beams, using screws instead of nails, steel coupling links between beams at juncture points, use of steel girders instead of lumber for flooring, deeper/thicker foundation/additional foundation pylons, steel door frames, choosing a house design that designates load bearing walls and BACK UP walls that can take the weight in the event of a partial structural collapse.

For additional ideas, look at traditional Japanese home building - very neat solutions to living an area prone to frequent earthquakes

The trick is to make sure that you design a house that is sturdy AND defensible. I wish it would be possible to design a star shaped house/fortress without it being obvious to everyone exactly what I was up to.

>>33852405
*Use of steel girders for joists SUPPORTING flooring instead of traditional lumber joists
I'm pretty sure a steel floor would be fucking expensive

I live in a basement unit apartment that has building security. I also am slowly lining my walls with aircraft armor.

>>33850820
>buy a decommissioned missile silo for a SHTF house
>nuclear exchange happens
>some 50 year old Russian ICBM lands right on your doorstep, following it's Cold War era programming
>you die while the fags in the suburbs are fine

>>33852672
Aircraft armour?
... aluminum?

>>33852844
No I'm an aircraft mechanic in the air force. They have these armor plates that are ceramic on the outside and backed with an inch of kevlar. Whenever the Velcro quits sticking to the armor mats they throw it away. A good buddy of mine inspects and builds them. He tells me when they're throwing them away. I take some shooting sometimes. Haven't been able to shoot through them yet.

>>33849682
3m security film, both sides
reinforced concrete wall with bollards hidden inside, with nice/classy facade
Vestibule for front and back doors
Strobe lights
Well lit exterior
Concrete construction
Scuba gear
Box fans
Battery powered box fans
No flammable things in the rooms leading to exits/entrances
flame thrower
shed/outbuilding that hides a 100,000 gallon water tank
barn/hanger that hides two 300,000 gallon water tanks
Door brace for both front, back, and garage doors (see: vestibule)
A sterling engine generator
Bio-diesel production
A small 2-5 acre freedom garden
No trees or tall/dense shrubbery within 20m of house
Solar near people will get eventually you a visit from niggers, so instead use parabolic mirrors to generate hot refrigerant
residential propane tank inside a well lit/ventilated windowless shed
Steel door frames
Enthusiasts machine shop (lathe, mill, drill press, welding supplies, enough tooling/stock to last several years of repairs)
couple thousand o-rings
Several hundred yards of PVC and black pipe (takes up notably less space than you think)
ton of honey (long ton)
ton of sugar
ton of soap
few dozen size 13 boots and sneakers (sorry, I'm a manlet)
ton of alcohol
lifetime's supply of non-perishable medical supplies
rotating supply of perishable medical supplies
Chicken and fish aquaponics (in a shed/barn)
greenhouse
couple dozen leather hides
bolts of cloth
books
guns
ammo
lead
tin
reloading supplies
flammables cabinet
freeze drier
long term bulk food
storm shutters
spare tires
airgun and handpump (see orings)
several thousand pellets
fertilizer
pornography or women
several hundred terabytes of movies and music
nib hardware
lan games
tabletop games
wood stock
tools
miscellaneous non-perishable commodities (read: not gold)
Not gold
pingpong or something
a book of knots
paper, pens, and pencils
model kits (shit to keep you busy/sane)
radial slide rules
large 6" table radial slide rule for when accuracy really counts
TONS of chocolate

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>>33852672
how paranoid are you mate?

>>33853018
Why scuba gear?

>>33852865
So fucking comfy for an open terrain lookout

filled the walls with 200 pounds of tannerite, if surrounded shoot the hidden spot.

>>33852975
that's fuckin rad.

>>33850995
If you're being shot at with weapons that can reliably penetrate concrete of any real thickness, I would take my chances with just leaving.

>>33852716
Speaking of software updates, in case of a nuclear exchange what are the chances half of US arsenal ends up blasting central Germany and Eastern Euro NATO newfags?

for houses that are already constructed, windows covered with "ornamental" steel bars, doors with a spring mounted framework and hinges on the inside with deadbolts, if you can, a secondary door on the inside as well. generally its to hard to line wall with concrete once they are already up but putting in sheet metal isn't to challenging. that plus creating a garden that allows for plenty of cross fire and the like isn't hard. if anything id make the place look run down and already raided from the outside so people think its not worth it or its already been over while in reality its the hardest fortress in town.

>>33849682
Depending on the scenario leaving is generally your best shot. Anyone can run by and burn your house down, gas you out, or wait until you need to leave to pick you off. Get a group, find a spot with good terrain, and make that your new home.

>>33852405
>using screws instead of nails
Also prevents a squeaky house 3 years after it's built, as well as preventing all those unaesthetic AF nail pops everywhere.

>>33851430
As far as solar panels and water collection, build your house with a Spanish courtyard and have them in there.

There's no good way to protect wind turbines, although you can minimize their profile.

>>33850819
Doesn't matter. In the US traps in general are illegal. I think the reasoning was to protect emergency personnel such as EMTs and police who may come into your home/lawn to help you

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>>33849682

i don't like the idea of being stuck in one place so i would just take my house with me

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>>33855884
>Depending on the scenario leaving is generally your best shot.

Bingo. What do these people think that they are going to defend against. If you're defending against anything more than the common burglar, things are probably so bad that the threats are more than what you can fortify against.

Unless you literally have a farmhouse like OP's pic, surrounded by farmland and terrain that would allow you to defend it well and store your own food and supplies, maybe make your own bunker.

But anyone else? If you're that outnumbered, they're going to get you eventually or wait you out.

>>33855939
A farmhouse would be good depending on the land. Something on a hill with wide open views is great until someone gets close enough, then it be bad if you have no plan to retreat safely. When the war broke out in Bosnia we went into the woods. It was a waste of time for the military to go there due to the rough terrain which also kept bandits away.

>>33855949
>into the woods
>literally innawoods

Did you grab SKS first? or any weapons?

>>33855978
No. We had none to begin with in the first place. You grabbed your most important belongings and left as soon as possible hoping the artillery would land elsewhere.

>>33853027
Honestly? Extremely. Seriously of income live out in a mine shaft and still be able to make it to work on time I would. I have two closets in my bedroom and one of them has a 55gal drum of water and six cases of MREs. Plus my backup/range only guns

>>33856150
*seriously if I could

>>33855993
The only issue I see is if you bug out you have no infrastructure at your new location. Unless you own it in which case you can stockpile supplies and equipment there ready for you. Otherwise you are running off to death.

If you live in a more rural area bugging in would be your best situation, make sure you have good all round visibility, make sure there aren't too many obstacles people could hide behind.

If people are getting close enough to firebomb your house or gas you out you are doing something wrong.

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>>33851344
>My dad is an engineer and when he went to school at Carnagie Mellon in the 80s the saying was "When in doubt, build it stout, out of stuff you know about"
>Back before everything was cheap and underengineered

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>>33849682
Helped my buddy build 2 BBQ areas on his farmland a while back.
Conveniently those "brutalist inspired" concrete and stainless steel BBQs/workbenches:
1) Are pretty bulletproof due to purposeful overbuilding
2) Are pretty innocuous looking and works as you'd expect
3) provide cover for those defending access points, while overseen from the house

There's even what could be either be a firing slit or just an aesthetic gap in the masonry. Tanks are the tall ones and are inset under the BBQ, below ground in a stock standard culvert.

>Pic for ants is related - same general idea of a stand alone permanent BBQ, but different design and materials.

On my own property, we now have some retaining walls that act as reverse ha-has. Rock walls Look pretty and we have seating there, so we made sure we can see the wall side from the house but you can't see that from the edges of the property.

There's berry brambles and some very dense hardy-orange thickets growing around the borders. Berries are delicious, and the oranges are bitter but edible. Good for marmalade. Might be some loose wire tangled up in those brambles, hate to see someone try to drive through it, even though I'd only give them 50/50 odds of making it through just the oranges hedge anyway.

Just some ideas. Increased property value while adding some practical features now, and in any possible future.

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elevated with breakaway walls gives you some protection

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>>33850828
>plan to have a have a 3/4 sunken "basement" that places the "ground floor" windows too high to easily reach, and also just happens to provide a good firing slit akin to a bunker.

Yes. Manning a pillbox with my wife and son against the raider hordes. My body is ready.

>>33850382
traps aren't legal because they are indiscriminate, and can harm first responders (firefighters, EMTs, police, etc.)

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>>33857039
My house has a 3/4 below ground basement. It doesn't go deep because we live in New Orleans, but it's at about perfect level for guerilla tier ambush attack and gives the basement dweller ambush capability.

>>33849682
>Get your own land, possibly what has running water. Build a little how on your land, than dig a deep and wide pond what sorrunds the hill. Make shure there is only one wood bridge is the connection to the land and it can be destroyed in notime. Build your house on the hill, make shure that the house has a fundation of concreate reinforced with metal and it has two level of basement. Use double layer of bricks and reinforce it from the inside with steel. Use buletproof windows. The windows cover can be steel reinforced concreat with ports to shoot. Make an automatic lock function for these. Get a diesel engine what can produce power, make shure you have underground tanks to store diesel. Dig little underground bunkers what house matchineguns fitted with termaloptics. Make little concreat reinforced tunnels to be able to travel to these bunkers underground. Design and produce equipment to automate these, design the softwer to be able to controll these on your pc. Make bunkers with a simple opening hatch, whats hatch opens and clouses by a button click, house automated mortars in it. Finaly get your drone equiped with termals.

Congratulations, only jdm's and arty or tanks can dig you out.

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>>33853621
ever see that documentary "The Transporter"?

>>33849682
keep house stock, just start tunnelling. Maybe some trained attack bees/arachnids to cover your escape

>>33858123
No I haven't humor me.

>>33853621
Because carbon monoxide will kill you just as easily as it will kill others.
(the flames aren't what make flame throwers lethal)

>>33858266
Why not just use an SCBA rig then?

>>33858298
Because that's a better idea and slipped my mind.

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>>33849682
That is my home >>33853027 so I failed horribly at not making it look like an autistic doom fortress. But on the plus side it does have a nice home cinema room and an almost copy of the war room from Dr Strangelove.

It's really large, so takes a lot of time to renovate.

>>33858945
How much did it cost?

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>>33858945
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>>33857419
I had a hard time reading this I'm sorry but unless English isn't your first language please seek help

>>33857145

If a trap was developed, say an automated sentry gun, that had programming that let it distinguish between emergency services and everyone else, would it be legal?

>>33859218
>home invader comes in dressed as a fireman

>>33859231

>spy sapp'n muh sentry!

But seriously, I never said keeping a gun handy would be a bad idea.

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>>33858995
The bunker or the renovations?

>>33859051
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>>33859457
post more bunker pictures please

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>>33859696
Not him but as a /diy/er I have a couple saved from him, I can dump them if you want. It's old content tho

>>33859457
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>>33859753
would be the ultimate DIY project, yeah please do

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>>33859801
Gotcha

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>>33859858
ty
he has a shit-tonne of space, how much help does he have?

>>33849682
I'm gonna invest everything I own in a small thin layered castle, but run outnof funds, then have all my children help me complete it, but instead theyll just fight and make some retarded catapult

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>>33860066
None, I've been at it almost 3 years now.

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>>33860066
He has a couple friends helping sometimes but as far as I remember he does it almost by himself. Guy's talented as fuck. You see some of his tile works and you would think it was done by a pro.

>>33860113
Heh, that is a very old one, before I got the blast doors in >>33860111

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>>33849682
>but I think when it comes to your home there must be a way to make it a doom fortress while keeping things aesthetic
L-plan is always a nice touch.

>>33860123
What the hell was that place before you bought it? underground storage or something?

>>33860196
I think he said it was underground oil storage with access to sea to fill tankers. With the bunker as well.

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>>33860123
dem doors though

>>33860196
>>33860218
Full sized bunker with some radar stuff, wasn't it?
Oil storage was a another one I think

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>>33860196
Air command center during the cold war. This is my mountain.

https://youtu.be/YEVECMUJKg0?t=84

No qt radar operators came with it.

Also got like he >>33860218
said a oil storage facility for cheap. pic of it here >>33821523

>>33860248
Pain to build, but kind of like how it ended up.

>>33850944
Care to share some pics? I've wondered about doing a shipping container home.

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>>33860269
>gif related
every time

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>>33860291
just add crab meat

Basement
Reinforce ceiling
Heavy duty door
Store food, guns, and tools down there along with other stuff

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My house is interesting. It is only 1 story with a 6 ft high attic. The fun part is the basement. Now hear me out. I would rather have a full basement but instead I have a basement covering 2/3 of the house. The otherside is a partially dug out dirt crawl for a sump pump.

With that in mind I bought thick bags and store them with 2 shovels and a pickaxe in the basement with access to all that wonderful dirt. On a huge chunk of the 1/3 of basement that is a lot of soil. While they may not be sandbags they will cover for radiation and other fun. Then place them on the floor or around windows for awesome fun time.

>>33860383
i keep meaning to fill a few dozen sandbags. i wonder if my town has free access all the time or just before hurricanes.

>>33860826
That's not very good advice if you still want to use the house as a domicile.

>>33861498
In all honesty, shit would have to get pretty damn serious for me to go that far.

>>33859898
what are these?

>>33862824
The ovens.

>>33862824
over pressure valves, they slam shut when a pressure wave from a nuke explosion hit so the bunker pressure remains normal

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>>33861498
Pretty good setup really. You just need to have a way to keep it all hidden away until things go bad. I would suggest a few more metal supports on lowest floors. Wood is great and all but becomes explosive under too much pressure.

>>33864412
>Hey Rob... Is that a machine gun nest in your living room?
>No Sam that's the new style of oversized coffee tables, geez get with the times.

>>33864412
Though I don't see why you'd need the extra supports, you shouldn't be removing any walls, you want to keep the rooms separate to prevent fire and give you an advantage if someone does get inside.

The walls will do their job without the added struts.

>>33864496
Additional added supports are needed for holding up the bags on the floors above. Also if bombs do fall they will cause addition stress on the beams. That is seriously a lot of added weight the house was not built for but can be corrected for.

>>33849682

If you're a poorfag than your best bet is to find some asshole that already built one, then pump it full of freon after SHTF and wait for it to air out.

>>33851315
>Like if I lived in Cali yeah understandable but Alabama? Maybe not.

Largest earthquake in recorded US history was when the New Madrid fault busted loose a couple of centuries ago. New England also has some seismic history.

>>33853027
Is this pic someone renovating an old bunker? That'd be awesome.

I wish the government would renovate old bunkers more just for historical preservation.

>>33859457
Wait
Do people renovate bunkers? Is this a thing? That would be amazing.

>>33860113
Do you guys renovate bunkers? That sounds like a dream job.

>>33864658
Flooding and mold will ruin that dream real quick.

>>33860303
Mfw I saw the bunker thread

>>33855799
You realize that's pretty much any rifle right?

>>33864667
Still, sounds like quite an interesting time.

>>33859218
No

>>33860329
That looks really comfy desu

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Would a bunker like this be good enough for long term SHTF?
http://www.risingsbunkers.com/layouts-pricing-bunkers/xtreme-series-fallout-shelter-for-sale-the-commander/

>>33859218
Most state law prohibits any traps in toto. There is no exemption to the law for discriminate weapons, even if the indiscriminate nature of the traps was the original cause of the law.

Separate to its legality as a trap, if it fires more than once it might actually be classified as a machine gun because the user isn't operating each shot "by a single function of the trigger".

>>33864792
Seems fine, I would turn the lowest vault room into master bedroom as well. Multiple families may be a possibility.

>>33864792
why do you need two kitchens and two hidden vaults?

>>33864920
vaults are silly, kitchen is a good idea as backup. or some jackass leave popcorn bag in for too long int the microwave only 1/3 have to suffer.

>>33864920
I'd probably remove the top "living area" and replace it with more storage, for the vaults, a way to store a shit load of valuables or guns

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>>33864954
Naw, leave the living area and move the guns to the work shop for a proper work over.

Bumpn

>>33866745
Why not at least post an opinion of another post?

For example, this post.

>inb4 this post itself is stupid

>>33851491

This. Unnerground is bast

>>33851491
Based post. Would build something like this if I ever have the money and land.

>>33864792
>Hidden door from shower to gun rack
This is a horrible idea and a great way to rust up your guns.

And I thought the people who insisted on putting their closet right next to the shower were nuts.

>>33851015
2" is absurdly thick. A steel plate 8' tall (most houses have 9' ceilings though) and say 16' long to cover the front room of a house would weigh 10,000 pounds. 5 tons just to have one part of one face of one floor of your house covered.