Why are so many knives curved?

>>33848709
A E S T H E T I C

>>33848709
Also why isn't reverse tanto a more common type?

>>33848709
Same reason an axe is curved, to produce a better cut even if the swing or slice only grazes the target.

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>>33848802
#notallaxes

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Bumpin' with more straight axes.

>>33848709
Drop point and American tanto look the best.

>>33848948
>posts a carpenters axe

I wonder why

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>>33849062
Not all carpentry axes are straight though.

>>33849096
That's specifically called a carving axe

>>33848709
>dagger
>sheep's foot
>wharncliffe
Go buy those

>>33849128
Alright, but carpentry axes are also for carving.

Same question, but for axes - why are some axes curved and some not?

>>33849155
A sheep's foot is more often curved in the front and incapable of stabbing.

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>>33849178
What about something like this then? Does someone make a modern style brokeback seax?

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>>33849209
OP here. That's not me.

>>33848709
To add more length on the cutting edge of the blade while maintaining the same blade length?

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>>33849285
> Kris confirmed for best knife?

I imagine this thing would be a bitch to sharpen.

>>33848788
Because that is a garbage knife design
>>33848709
Literally because
>Git gud

>Waah sharpening a knife is hard
Then git gud
>Waah why aren't all knives flat edged
A. Git gud
B. You'd fuck that up too if you don't know how to sharpen a knife

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>>33849332
Why is a reverse bad?

>>33849408
Because american tantos are bad, that knife looks and would perform like shit, and it minimizes blade area within the same length. Sheep foot folding knives also suck for most purposes, which is why on most knives it is a sub blade for specific uses.

is there a retard proof knife sharpener? i cant figure out how to get my knives razor sharp with a wetstone thing

>>33849306
They are cheap at the mall just throw them away when they get dull and buy a new one

>>33849408
rurouni kenshin pls go.

>>33849460
What if you have a really nice one from Indonesia?

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>>33849466
No.

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>>33849332
Not an argument as to why more blades are curved.

>>33849434

I can buy the minimizing blade area somewhat, but "performs like shit" is pretty ambiguous.

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>>33848709
Negative blade curvature (From finger to spine) reduces the surface area of edge in contact with the object you are cutting, at lest on the surface. A curved edge therefor will "bite in" better.

I find my favorite EDC knives tend to have a constant slow curve across the entire edge, but with the point still roughly near center line of the handle.


Why do you not like sharpening curves? At lest negative ones, I agree positive curves (like a karambit) can be a bitch. But I find negative curves almost more intuitive than knives with flat edges. Just rotate the knife with your wrist to keep the edge perpendicular to the stone.

>>33849447
Get like a small sander that comes with guides. Work really well, and retard proof

>>33849528
The curve gives more cutting are per knife length. American tantos have a very fragile tip, and the transition from the first edge to the second has no practical applications. It cant be used to skin, stab, or make long cuts

>>33849563
the only thing I would take out of this picture would be the boker tuxedo

>>33849528
>Draw cut
>Have too much blade in the way
>Knife cuts shitilly
>flat blades work best at an angle like a Jap utility knife: short knife with a flat edge going from the front to the spine

American tantos and tactical bullshit exists only because it is easier to grind an edge on during assembly line construction

>>33848709
because your arm moves in an arc when slashing, and a curved blade will keep sharp parts on the target throughout the arc of your slash.

>>33849408
Its tip has no function, for any stabbing knife you want the tip on the centerline. The strait edge also atops you from being able to make smaller and more precise cuts. The "american tanto" style is pure a e s t h e t i c.

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why dont i ever see people carrying traditional knives anymore? are they worse for some reason or is it just bc of the tacticool meme

>>33849705
Tacticool meme. They work just fine. A lot of farmwrs still carry them around

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>>33849563
Thanks, Namefag, that makes a lot of sense.

I don't like sharpening curves because some of my sharpeners don't really handle them well. I don't think the lansky or diafold handle curves well.

>>33849705
A lot of them are friction or slipjoint, which means you have to be careful with them.

>>33849721
I'v never had a problem with slipjoints. If you use it right it never should have pressure away from the lock.

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>>33849731
A tight slipjoint like a douk douk is amazing, but I've seen a lot of subpar slipjoints.

>>33849705
Because they want a pocket clip, single-handed opening, and a locking mechanism.

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>>33848709
Knives are tools
The tool has to fulfil its function

>>33849721
That's a trap, right?

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>>33849306
Bitch please.

>>33849285
It took 15 replies for someone to finally say this.

Sad.

>>33848788
Because it does nothing a regular drop point or spear point does.its a gimmick.

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>>33849210
Owen Bush
Leo Todeschini
Matthew Parkinson

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>>33849619
Think you are refering to the Work Sharp. They seem like they work well, I've considered getting ones for sword sharpening (I don't trust my cheap 1x30 belt sander with expensive stuff).

But they are far from retard proof. It is easy to over heat the a blade if you are new to it. Also it's easy to take off WAY too much material.

>>33849647
On the contrary, American Tanto's tend (notice I say tend) to have extremely strong tips. They do not penetrate that deep compared with other designs (traditional tanto, dagger, bayonet, ect..) , but they leave a very large entry wound. As far as the "fighting knife" meme goes, they are not as lethal, but more incapacitating.

I agree they are not good for most utility use. And they are kind of a pain to sharpen, and keep that secondary point nice a crisp.

>>33849653
It's one of my favorite knives, I have 3 variations of the Boker Kwaiken (a 4th on order), and the Tux is my favorite. I was lucky and got #0070.

>>33849705
Tacticool meme is a part of it, but far from the main factor. Pocket clips, locks, and easy single hand opening is very useful for a utility knife.

I still carry an Opinel in my bag though for food and "sanitary" tasks.

>>33849721
Most set angle systems should be fine with normal negative curve, in fact having a little curve actually helps keep the angle more constant, at lest on my Wicked Edge. But in general, with a long enough pivot arc length, the difference along most sub 10" blades should be negligible.

>>33850882
>007
nice

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>>33851492
Yeah on the Tuxedo model as well. Jame Bond as hell.

I normally don't care about serial numbers, but I've been lucky with the Kwaikens.

#0219 on my original one. That blows my mind, of all the Boker Kwaikens ever made, I have #0219 of the first batch of the first run.

#0260 on my CF/black wash

#0070 on the Tux of course

And I have the Mirror polish/rose wood Massdrop exclusive on order, all I know is it will be one of the first 400.

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>>33849705
But if you don't have a lock and wave deployment feature and if your knife isn't made out of [insert flavor of the month magic steel here] it's pure trash and you're just going to cut yourself with it even though people have been using knives without all that for thousands upon thousands of years

>>33849705
the sodbuster is my favourite knife pattern desu. a half stop and not being autistic is all you'd ever really need

>>33849178
And you aren't going to be stabbing shit anyway so it doesn't matter

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>>33849178
>A sheep's foot is more often curved in the front and incapable of stabbing.


Which is exactly the point of a sheepsfoot. It is purely utility minded design, and gives some margin of safety for cutting common items (boxes, rope, limbs, garden hose -dont ask)

if I want to get stabby I use a fixed spear point that I hand rolled.

Pic Related is my favorite EDC utility knife

>>33849447
I've used just about everything on the market. Apex, sharpmaker, lansky, DMT, etc. Understanding how an edge works, how you create an edge, and keep an edge is the best method. People try to go fast, fuck up the geometry of the stone on the edge, and end up not sharpening all the way to the edge. Use a sharpie to color the edge and check it while sharpening. You'll see where you're doing it wrong. I use a set of Spyderco bench stones now. About two dozen swipes per side, per stone. Finish up on a buffing wheel with white polishing compound. You'll end up with an edge so sharp that it'll cut 5 minutes off an hour.

>>33851678
As a steel snob, it's pretty ignorant to ignore improvements to material sciences. Otherwise, why aren't you using a flint blade? It was most likely the longest serving blade material in human history. Metal blades are only a few hundred year old trend.

>>33855672
>bronze age
>few hundred years old
I get what you're trying to say but i think you're framing it poorly

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>>33855672
Well except obsidian is still used today for certain knives, such as medical instruments and scalpels as it's far sharper than steel - atomically so. Some can even make decent shavers.

Additionally, before inexpensive stainless steel, glass was used for fruit and cake knives.

And no, metal blades are not "a few hundred years old." An iron blade was found in tutankhamun's grave.

>>33848709
Recurved and drop point a best

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>>33850275
No it's not a trap you faggot. I know she has nudes, but I cannot find them.

>>33850882
Sup Opinel buddy - that's what I use mine for. It just seems like a perfect knife for that.

>>33853677
Are MAMs just knock-off Opinels or are they good quality?

>>33855672
>A hundred year old trend
We've found folding knives from the fucking roman empire

>>33858124
>We've found folding knives from the fucking roman empire

No shit. Metal tools date back thirty six hundred years ago. Stone tools date back 3.4 million years.

>>33856027
>An iron blade was found in tutankhamun's grave.

More due to some guy finding an metor outside his home and working that metal.

>>33856027

Jesus fucking Christ. Don't be so pedantic you literal autist. 3600 years is a few hundred years on a time scale of 3.4 million years. Even five thousand years it's still a few hundred years on a time scale of 3.4 million years.

It doesn't even matter if a manufacturer still make stone knives. The fact that you could go make your own Flint knife in your backyard still stands. The point was it is extremely uncommon for someone to cut their dinner with their own Flint knapped knife. If the original materials are good enough then you might as well go back to Stone.

>>33849705
Because I usually have my hands full and need one I can deploy one handed. MY CRKT Shenanigan has been my best friend for 3 years now.

>>33848709
because you get more cutting edge per length of knife.

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>>33848948
#flatisjustice

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>>33849158
A carpenters axe is used for making flat square objects and surfaces; whether hewing a beam from a log, or squaring up a tenon of timberframing the blade is square to make the flattest surface.

Carving, Felling and Racing axes on the other hand are curved to increase the length and penetration of the cutting edge to help remove wood quicker.

Hope this helps anon

>>33850429
Flamberge a best

>>33848709
Because curves cut better than flat edges. Knives are designed for slicing and curvature of the blade gives more edge to length ratio, which is beneficial for drawing the blade across the item being cut.

>>33860499
>flamberge the best

Maybe for cool factor. With how a zweihander is intended to be used the wave blade design is not nearly as efficient.