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How to defeat a tank squadron

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Hypothetically, how could a militia of 20-30 moderately trained individuals armed with AR-15s, AK-47s, and bolt action .306 hunting rifles defeat a squadron of M1 Abrams tanks, along with supporting forces? Assume the militia is defending a small town in a densely wooded, hilly area, with a handful of haphazard dirt roads leading to and from the town.
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>>33845307

*With roughly a month to prepare.
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They couldn't.

They're vastly outnumbered and completely outgunned and outmatched.
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>>33845307
Play cat and mouse with the tanks until they're stuck on their own or in previously dug traps.
Then shoot the logs guys in the face.
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>>33845307
God-dammit Hans, where the fuck are the rations?"
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>>33845335
>God damn it, you weren't supposed to eat the jews
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>>33845335
"I ate them"
[silently muffled Hans]
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>>33845307
Insurgent tactics. Although desu you will end up Dead regardless, just depends on how many you can take out
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They could not. The best a civilian militia could hope for is a Vietnam type result.
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You don't fight the tanks themselves. You fight their fuel trucks.
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>>33845523
you can fight tanks though. Dig lots of traps, and when they fall in, shoot the guys trying to get the tank out.
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>>33845307
Is that guy that duke faggot who writes for all the gun magazines?
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>>33845539
Yea that too. That town probably has some heavy machinery.

Get gen stuck then thermite grenade. I wonder how much thermite it would take to fuck an Abrams. Is the rear engine area heavily armored?
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>>33845539
see >>33845327
Why the fuck would the tanks even advance on you. You'd be shelled for two days before they waited you out.

How many do you even mean by a squad OP? 4? 9? 12?
Anything more than 4 is completely out of the question.
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>>33845523
This.

Focus on shooting gauges, valves and pressure fittings on fuel trucks. Small individual parts will have a smaller, slower supply chain that'll cause the truck to be out of service longer than outright destruction.
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Go finn style with logs in the tracks ?
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>>33845307
>306
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>>33845307
Unless they can manufacture some decent explosives and have the means to deploy them in a series of traps while also having the equipment to dig up, barricade or destroy every path a tank could use sans a few heavily mined with IEDs.

Even if the enemy force didn't simply discover and disable/destroy most or all of the militia's hidden explosive traps and the tanks somehow couldn't get around a lot of fucked up terrain using their supporting forces, said supporting forces would still probably overwhelm the militia especially if the tanks could still get within range to offer artillery support.

The best likely scenario for the militia to have the highest chance to succeed would probably be to rig the shit out of the town and surrounding area with explosive traps and to use the surrounding woodlands to their advantage, luring the enemy into several prepared traps and ambushes if a small enough group can be separated. With only 30 people though I think the militia will lack enough manpower to be much of a threat after the first few hit n run attacks, if it can even manage to survive the first attempt.
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Are anti-tank rifles still feasible. Just a man portable simple set up. Barell, action, and tripod. Single shot would be the easiest. Any small fast calibers that could stand a chance? 25, 30mm?
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>>33845599
AT rifles weren't feasible in WW2, let alone now.

You could shoot optics and such, but you don't need an AT rifle for that.
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>>33845307
Disguise as civvies, molotov the fucking shit out of them.
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>>33845599
In terms of actually destroying or disabling the tanks no
You could damage their optics, but even then you're probably going to die in doing it unless you get your shot absolutely perfect the first time, from an angle where none of the tanks other weapons nor its comrades can engage you
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I heard some where that if you throw un lite gas at the air intake of a tank the engine would shut down or spin out of control.
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>>33845307

Have a handful of stealthier militiamen sneak into the squadron's camp and cut their throats as they sleep. Alternatively, the militia could rig the town with debilitating booby-traps and make a tactical retreat to the nearest friendly settlement.
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>>33846001
Engines, especially turbines like they have in abrams, don't work like that. Theoretically you could hydrolock or overspeed an engine that way but you'd have to dump a ton of raw fuel into the intake. Like gallons of that shit. You'd probably just make it run super rich for a little bit.
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>>33845567
would molotov cocktails in the engine still work?
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20-30 against a tank squadron AND their support?

They're already fucking outnumbered by the tank crew. They could be overrun with sidearms.
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>>33845335
>"Meh, the STG-44 is superior to this one"
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>>33846221

"That, while true, is pessimistic nonsense and cannot be tolerated if we're going to win this fight!"
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>1 month to prepare

Easy, you kidnap and hold their families hostage.
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>>33845307
Steal a bunch of trucks, build Tim McVeigh bombs, allahu akbar into them around tight street corners

ISIS does it, I don't see why it wouldn't work for you too.
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>>33845307
tanks cant fly, just dig massive concealed pits and let them fall in, then they cant do shit, and leave large boulders everywhere which they cant get past
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>>33845307

They literally can't. Life is not an action movie. You cannot defeat a tank unless you have weapons specifically designed to defeat tanks.
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>>33845307
>Assume the militia is defending a small town in a densely wooded, hilly area, with a handful of haphazard dirt roads leading to and from the town.

assault the enemy fuel supply at night before they attack
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>>33846392
Underrated post. Only ACTUALY way to do it without AT weaponry. Same principle though, you'd need a surprise advantage, because they have the material/prep advantage
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>>33846486
Yeah, what /k/ militia fags don't realize that in suicide attacks are pretty much the only way an insurgency can truly punish an occupying force.

Americans are too individualistic to ever do that.
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>>33845307
100% depends on preparation time
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>>33845318
>>33846660
Sorry didn't see second post
With a month? Yeah they could put up a hell of a fight but will still probably lose
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hide the guns, let them occupy the town, over a period of months you engage in IED attacks, sniping, ambushes of foot patrols, killing collaborators, never take on the tanks directly.
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>>33845307
leave the town and go to the big cities forming small attack cells there.
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You don't. The entire point of guerrillas is not fighting in conventional, set piece battles. You sabotage as much infrastructure as you can and hope to god your buddies can get their hands on proper anti tank equipment and ordinance one way or another.

If you're deep innawoods, tanks are of marginal value. It comes down to the infantrymen, helicopters and planes. Exactly like Africa.

>>33846483
>fighting US military at night

Don't do this. They have a lot more equipment and training for it than most armed forces in the world, much less irregulars.
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>>33845562
well i mean it depends on the mission. if the mission is to take the town you don't she them like artillery lol. then there's no more town retard.
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>>33845307
Huge covered pits, the false ''ground'' should support lighter vehicles and infantry but collapse under tanks. You could just wreck a house with a cellar and then move the debris in to the road, channeling the tank into the ''clear path'' where the house once stood.

Huge IED's.

Re directing steams to create mud

Best case scenario you fuck up a few tanks and then the enemy pulls back to change their tactic and do something else. Like shelling the shit out of you and sending in a bunch of infantry.
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>>33845307

The burger militia would be turned into hamburger meat at the first engagement.
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>>33845307

Wait for the crew or support personnel to get out to shit and then shoot them.

Run away, rinse and repeat until they are all NMC.
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>>33845682
requesting few years ago's bahreini molotov riots against military vehicles
they were deep fried
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>>33845307
You wouldn't win. Never plan your strategy around what you might do to them, as that involves everything going in your favor. Instead, plan it around what they might do to you, as nothing will go in your favor. From there you can proceed with an accurate expectation and assessment of your abilities.
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>>33845331
>>33845523
>>33845539
>>33845560
>>33846458
>>33846483
>>33847930
>>33850562
>>33850540
>The only answers that matter
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Tanks aint going into that shitty forest without some heavy infantry support.

so not much.
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>>33845307
M1 Abrams tanks?
Solely with small arms?
Fuck off
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>>33851003
Plink the optics and run. Repeat. Wait for tank crew to open hatch. Shoot commander and run. Repeat. Essentially wear them down through a thousand cuts. If you're a good shot, try to wound the crew, not kill. It will either enrage or demoralize them, both advantageous to you.
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>>33845307
Make as many of pic related as possible + dig holes + smoke bombs/other types of fire bombs.

Ideally tanks would get stuck on the anti-tank obstacles and in holes then smoke/fire bombs would fill the tank with smoke forcing the crew out.

But yeah even then the odds are in the tank squadrons favor.
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>>33845523
>You don't fight the tanks themselves. You fight their fuel trucks.

Correct. Or even better sabotage the fuel with a nice dose of sugar. Tank destroyed (well the engine and has to be recovered. entire suspect fuel reserve ha to be scrapped) but no suicidal red dawn.

Your other option is remote detonated and zerod homemade 100KG mortars I an 8 way grid but you are doing a lot of work and prep for a limited possibility of a kill and you will not stop them all. Unless they are unsupported in an urban environment which they never will be you will not get near them and even then you nee to beat thermals and top armour.
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>>33845307
Snipe/ambush the crews when they're not in the tank
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Assuming that's all they had, hope you can sneak up on them right before the crack of dawn because some private fell asleep on guard duty and get in to kill the crew silently. Good luck.
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>>33845307
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PL2HFLRMI0
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>>33845307
IMPROVISED
EXPLOSIVE
DEVICES
also, assassinate politicians, police, supply convoys, and family members of the men oppressing you.
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>>33845307
Swap your guns for shovels for the time being.

Anything that isn't in a densely populated area gets fuckhueg trenches (tank trenches were a thing back in the day, let's just try this again)

Then, get your guns and go for >>33845523.
Sugar in the fuel.
Piss in the fuel.
Used motor oil, whiskey, flour, anything to gum shit up and make the crew get out.

Then use some old deer guns and start picking the crew off.

However the real question is why?
I highly doubt the US military would go through with anything that would harm the populace as said populace is their family.

And there really is no instant solution: the methods outlined are as quick as you really get short of just waiting them out.
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>>33845483
Yeah, but the Vietnamese didn't even have pluming or other comforts, they were a hardy people. How many people could achieve what they did today?
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>>33845307
banana in the tailpipe. works every time.
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>>33845637
You can shoot an APC, maybe even some models of IFV.
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>>33854953
The biggest advantage the vietnamese had was the North Vietnamese Army and all that sweet backing the Chinese and Soviets gave them in equipment and training. The vietcong were a fucking meme for catching 5.56 on their spare time
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>>33855117
I mean, yeah. But how many Americans are willing to live in tunnels let alone fit in them
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