Middle East Thread "POST ISIS EDITION"

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ISIS will never be as aesthetic as these guys

>>33832769
It's funny you post about Palmyra now. IS losing in numerous places from Qalamon desert via FSA to Tabqa against SDF/YPG and even some ground around Shaer to the SAA/Russians but around Palmyra?
IS attacked the silos again today and have actually GAINED ground. They are obsessed with attacking the Palmyra silo checkpoint.

>>33835067
Also with the SAA/Russians recent victory at Shaer I have a feeling that's why the SAA advances in northern Hama stalled suddenly. Rebel ATGMs and Russian advisers have convinced the SAA to pivot back to eastern Homs. The SAA feels like they sealed back enough of Hama to keep the rebels at bay and are moving forces elsewhere(my opinion) Hama is a stalemate. Granted it's still very hot on the front line and the Ruaf has not stopped heavy bombing raids .

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dam

>>33835067
Any evidence that ISIS actually took anything? They've been getting less reputable over the last year.

Is have made an attack in northeastern syria, according to SOHR. The target: a refugee camp. 46 dead so far, mostly civilian including 31 women and children.

>>33836715
Only ISIS is claiming it. They havn't even posted pictures of it.

I mean, I wouldnt leave it out of the possibility that they scared away a check point guard or something, but anything major is getting the fuck bombed out of it right now

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>fbi translator travels to syria to marry isis terrorist she had to investigate.
cant make this shit up

>>33839051
Does the Tiger only take manlets for his boytoys?

Do ruskies really use gorkas innadesert?

>>33839875
To their credit, the Ivans are only foreign force keeping the moderate beheaders at bay, when the others are letting these sand niggers run loose, or even enabling them.

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>>33841045
>>33841054
God bless Memri TV

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>>33841087

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>>33837625
Well they did post pictures. IS isn't claiming major advances but points around the silos which is a area they seem to care about a lot.

Instead of focusing on IS, the main theme of my post was the SAA bringing reinforcements to eastern Homs anyway. Pics from eastern Homs yesterday. A few weapons captured and a few dead 5th corp.

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>>33841911

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>>33841923

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>>33841942

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>>33839875
>Russian economy is about collapsed.
Your knowledge about the Russian economy is pretty outdated

some recently released footage of fighting in Damascus.

It's a long video, and there's no subtitles, so be warned, but some of the footasge is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-vYA1HZvY

>>33841029
What MG is that on the top?

>>33842796
PKM

>>33842796
Pkp

>>33843005
you think? It's missing the barrel mounted carry handle, which is why I said PKM

Just in, an explosion was reported in Azaz, in the northern Aleppo province. Little is known about the event or of any casualties, but rebel sources say that a car bomb was set off in the town center.

>>33841076
why does he have a fart deflection panel on his bottom?

>>33843664
This is a foam sit pad, a very useful thing when you want to sit on some kind of stone.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pEuYSa0X2E

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someone explain this lvl of retardation to me please
>http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/investigates-fbi-syria-greene/index.html?sr=twpol050217investigates-fbi-syria-greene1203PMN/ALink&linkId=37098480

>>33844373
sex

>>33844373
women without feminine penises

>>33841911

Is it possible that they have something buried in the area that is important to them, like a secret vault full of valuables of some kind? Something too bulky for them to have simply removed in time?

>>33843664

Actually, that is genius. If it is armor anyway. His job is to look for things in the ground that go bang. Suddently there's this hissing sound and he has three seconds to hit the deck. He'll be face down, his upper body turned away... leaving his butt as the biggest, most likely body part to be hit by shrapnel. Yeah, gimme that that butt plate.

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>>33836723
I've noticed a lot of US vehicles in Iraq and Syria seem to be sporting minigun turrets.

>>33845234
wow these look cool. is there a door at the back of the armored cabin? the back part is just storage or is it?

>>33845325
It's whatever you want it to be

>>33845234

Remote operated roof mini guns. I WANT one.

>>33836723
What Stryker variant is this?

>>33845234
I just want that drivers mustache

>>33845758

Interesting and complex vehicle armor. Is it from a different type of armored vehicle?

>>33844373
dick literally too bomb

>>33845895

Just looks like sheet metal and slats. Not really that complex.

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> acclimatising

http://washingtonhatti.com/2017/05/03/erdogans-top-adviser-hints-turkey-may-hit-american-forces-in-northern-syria-with-few-missiles/

>>33841911
Pro SAA sources report further movement in eastern Homs today with the capture of a montain and several villeges around it adding to my idea the SAA just put more troops in the AO.

https://twitter.com/DefenseLattakia/status/859805092794466305

Quickly running through other areas with new YPG vs TFSA fighting reported near Azaz. SDF/YPG still fighting the last holds of IS around Tabqa. JAI still fighting with Rahman corp in eastern Ghouta as Rahman corp proves once again they aren't bitch made pushing JAI out of some areas, meanwhile heavy fighting with the SAA continues in Qabon. Some minor fighting/artillery plus rebel ATGM strikes around western Aleppo, Hama and Latakia, Daara.

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>>33845067
I have always suspected IS has a base out there somewhere. I mean underground bunkers, stocked up supplies and the whole works. They could be located near the silo area which would explain why they target it everyday.

Lastly a Russian service member has been killed in action marking the third Russian service member killed in Syria during the last 3 weeks.

>>33841109
Drop more moabs :^)

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http://www.newsweek.com/defense-contractor-alcohol-sex-trafficking-iraq-594001

>>33846452

How will Putin ever recover?

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>>33841146

Holy fuck, is that the same captured T-90A from a while back?

It is brutally battered. Looks like the optics are all shot to shit, the ERA stripped off...

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>>33841109
>Native Arab speakers have shittier Arab writing than me.

>>33842104
Oil may be headed back under $40 if the cuts don't get renewed--and Russia's production is somewhat seasonal, so they most likely won't maintain their share of the cuts.

>>33848891
And yet she's still going. Gotta respect the ruggedness of Soviet/Russian designs

>>33843664
>>33845124

It's just a cushion to reduce ass-chaffing when riding on BTRs

>>33846370
When a US PR officer for Syrian ops. says PKK is part of SDF, Turks do have a point that US is protecting terrorists.

>>33849992
>Oil may be headed back under $40
Oil below $ 40 will drop the economic indicators, but it will make life easier for industry and agriculture. Most Russian economists believe that the ruble is gaining too much against the dollar last months.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-07/russia-is-running-on-more-than-just-the-black-stuff

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>this niggah

>>33850097
>When a US PR officer for Syrian ops. says PKK is part of SDF.

>Fucking up this bad at basic diplomacy.

>>33845535

It's 75th Rangers super cool Strykers that we plebeian SBCT nerds will never get.

>>33844373

>batshit crazy

That covers about 90% of women.

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>>33853251
>tfw he go to jail for smoking one (1) cigarette

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what's next?

>>33841076
Could this not-exoskeleton be something to prevent your limbs to get btfo if you trigger a mine instead of a weight-carry helper thing?

Okay, going to list up the ME developments of the day as they have been reported to the moon base. Don't expect too many details or coherence.

- 'Syrian opposition' tells Russian news that they are willing to resume negotiations with Assad.

- Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar has returned to Kabul after a 20 year exile. He claims that now, he 'wants peace'.

- Far away but not unrelated, US foreign minister Rex Tillerson says that USA can 'no longer afford' make human rights a factor in their diplomatic work.

- Iraq Army this morning initiated a new offensive in Western Mosul .

- Iraqi prime minister Al-Abadi is discussing with Trump the possibility of keeping US forces in Iraq after the war with ISIS is over.

>>33855645

China ethnically cleanses the Uighur Jihad niggers.

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>just

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-W9_AxHKng

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so what about ukraine?

Fresh diplomatic development. Russia, Turkey and Iran has agreed on creating four 'safe zones' in Syria


Russland, Tyrkia og Iran enige om sikre soner i Syria to 'help with the humanitarian crisis'. The intention is to reinforce the peace agreements, help refugees return home and get them food and aid supplies.

I can't WAIT to see the map.

Fuck, let me try that again. Why is the posting window so small anyway?

Fresh diplomatic development. Russia, Turkey and Iran has agreed on creating four 'safe zones' in Syria. The intention is to reinforce the peace agreements, help refugees return home and get them food and aid supplies.

I can't WAIT to see the map.

>>33856689
Guess nothing. Syria is the new hotness so unless we get chemical weapons or some other kind of civilian massacre I don't think Ukraine events will end to the news at all. The press caters only what interests the masses. Muh refugees and Assad make people feel more than slavs fighting themselves.

According to SOHR, ISIS has now left all positions in Tabqa today.

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>At Least Seven Daesh Terrorists Killed By US Airstrike in Eastern Afghanistan
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201705041053285092-us-air-force-afghanistan-daesh/

>BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports of 250 US military personnel entering Syria’s Al-Hasakah
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/unconfirmed-reports-250-us-military-personnel-entering-syrias-al-hasakah/

>UPDATE: US-backed SDF denies deal to evacuate ISIS in Tabqa, reports intensive clashes
http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/04052017

>US Announces Formation of Local Council to Run Raqqa
http://www.albawaba.com/news/us-announces-formation-local-council-run-raqqa-970568

>Iraq, US in talks to keep American troop presence after IS
https://apnews.com/fb62782a3d1c467c9f68158ef9ff738b?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

>Netanyahu slams Abbas for telling Trump that Palestinians teach ‘peace’
http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2017/5/4/netanyahu-slams-abbas-for-telling-trump-that-palestinians-teach-peace#.WQtIP-WGPIU=

>Netanyahu Welcomes, and is Happy About, Trump's Aspiration for Israel-Palestine Reconciliation
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201705041053282413-israel-palestine-reconciliation/

>New Israeli stealth fighters operating over Syria?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/229129

>Two Russian bombers escorted by SU-35 fighters near Alaska
https://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/20513/Two-Russian-bombers-escorted-by-SU-35-fighters-near-Alaska

>Thousands of pro-secession Yemenis rally in southern city
https://federalnewsradio.com/government-news/2017/05/thousands-of-pro-secession-yemenis-rally-in-southern-city/

>U.S. Sharply Increases Military Training For Middle East Allies
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2017/05/04/us-military-training-middle-east/#2951753c2ab6

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>>33856689
>>33856954
>No Cash for Fascists: US Congress Won't Fund Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201705041053283419-us-congress-ukraine-neonazi/

>>33858202
>sputnik news

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>>33858202
>vatniknews says something
So when can we expect the first shipment of arms?

>>33858202
hey mandic

>>33859113

What do you mean "first"?

>>33859163
Sht!Be silent!Do you want the goyim to know?

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>>33859144

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but hey yeah this thread is kind of dead so here's some dead ypj K18+ pics
you can even see the pantsu

>>33859225

What we are NOT seeing is any kind of uniform. And since I doubt there has been a post mortem clothes change, you are probably looking at a civilian. Sorry if that kills your boner.

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>>33858188
>New Israeli stealth fighter
>f35

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>>33859550

Oy vey amerigoy!!!

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>>33858188
>New Israeli stealth fighters operating over Syria?
No. I don't who, or why, shills so hard for this rumor that gets circeled for the last month, but it's simply not true. IAF showed impresive resolutes in the past, and managed to field aircraft way ahead of schedule. But this stupid rumor claims they managed to finish developing, manufacturing, installing, testing, fixing all the core electronical systems that they plan for it (they basically bought just the skelton, planing to replace all the insides) and make it operational enough to enter a defended enemy air space- all in the spna of 4 (iirc) months that they had it in their disposal. Talk to me in 6 month, which is about 5 months ahead of their schedulr, and I might believe it.

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https://www.newsdeeply.com/syria/articles/2017/05/03/analysis-the-free-idlib-armys-role-in-the-u-s-battle-against-al-qaida-in-syria

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>>33859856

>>33859800
wtf is that tail art?

>>33859955
A bat?

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>>33859800
all that crap on the wings will destroy the stealth or wont it?

>>33859550
>burger education

>>33860127
>>33859955
It's shopped. The IAF showed interest in "stealth paint" to keep unified look their planes, but dropped the idea when they heard the R&D's estimated price tag.
>>33860127
Fuel goes here. If Israel needs to bomb Iran or somewhere in shouthern Africa, and air-refuel is often not an option, than they need extra fuel tank on them.

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>>33845535
Judging from the raised hull in the back, it's the MEV but with more guns and ammo instead of medical stuff

>>33860634
>shouthern Africa
Please no. I'm down here for work 6 months of the year.

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>>33860846

>More

https://media.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Mosul-airstrikes.mp4?_=1

>>33858188
>>33858202

the south african israeli shill from /sg/

>>33860888

Okay, I will bite. Where in southern Africa could the Israelis even consider making booms, short of resolving a hostage situation including their own citizens? I literally can't see the profit.

>>33861126
I think you misunderstood my post - I don't ever see that happing, but while we're on this topic:

>South Africa wants to sell missiles to Iran
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/203318-south-africa-wants-to-sell-missiles-to-iran.html

>>33861282

Oh, I can see that one happening again - Entebbe isn't that long ago. But other than a hostage situation. Ohh, what is this? Weren't South Africa chummies with Israel, or did that end at the same time as apartheid?

>>33861359
Israel was one of the few, and the very last, country to support South Africa during Apartheid. They helped develop nuclear weapons. Once the ANC came into power the relationship broke down drastically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeYgKl1o1eA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–South_Africa_relations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Alleged_collaboration_with_Israel

A bit of a longer read, but if you're interested:
https://www.guernicamag.com/polakow-suransky_5_15_10/

>>33860888
>>33861126
>>33861282
>>33861359
>>33861425
I didn't mean S.A the country, but the continent. The "southern" part was unneeded addition, however.
Israel (allegedly) occasionally bombes Sudan and other places across Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarmouk_munitions_factory_explosion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Sudan_airstrikes

>>33861359
> did that end at the same time as apartheid?
Yes. Now it's actively hostile (politicly).
Never thought I'd miss the SA apartheid days...

>>33860888
Just notify me when you're there, and I'll make some calls.

>>33861707
Are you an Israeli or dual citizen?

>>33861866
Just an Israeli. If you wander about the time zone, than it's because I working night shift right now.

>>33861885
The South African Israeli from Syria Generals?

>>33862036
Ah, no, not that guy. The counter-intell Israeli from /thg/ and mill-stories.

>>33841076
>ALICE LC-2 Frame
>Russian Camo

Russians confirmed surplus sloppy seconders

>>33841942
Looks like a max-detail RTS screenshot. Any more photos like this?

>>33862166
>counter-intell
Care to elaborate if possible? I'm not the guy you were speaking to, but I've been to Israel twice. Stayed in Tel-Aviv for most the time and really enjoyed my time there. Good people, good food and very vibrant. I enjoyed the 24/7 lifestyle.

>>33855843
It wouldn't help at all

>>33864195
>>33864205
>>33864220
All very pretty, and all very irrelevant. Notice the 2 missing parties from that paper: anyone from any of the rebel groups, who are opposed to the plan and their representatives there to take part in the talks stormed out in a huff, and at the time of signing called it bullshit essentially, also the Assad government is notably absent from there, supposedly they are supportive of the idea, but with neither they nor any of the rebels on board this is an even more useless bit of paper than the ones in the past that notionally had the agreement of everyone (excepting of course IS) and were all routinely ignored by everyone after a week or 2 at most.

Extra interesting is how these safe zones are supposed to work, they're in rebel held territory but if they want nothing to do with this plan it seems a little challenging to actually implement anything meaningful beyond the Russians simply not bombing those areas.

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us response to the astana agreement

>>33850051
He. Soviet/Russian tanks are "boys".

>>33864323
I dont think its irrelevant if it provides (more) casus belli for turkish involvement. In either case the June 4th deadline will be something to watch.

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>>33862916
> Stayed in Tel-Aviv
Our mini-Sweden
> Good people
Warmer blood and local nuances. The people are the same as anywhere else imo.
> good food
The best thing to come out of the Jewish-Arab refugees/immigrants.

> Counter-intell
Just a fancy title for OpSec unit for the most part. 80%-90% of the work is passive and/or revolves around simply enforcing opsec procedures such going around war-rooms and kicking out people with cell phones or issuing computer access cards. The more interesting day-to-day work falls on the "questioners", or however they're called in English, who interrogate people to determine/confirm their clearance level.

Initially, I started in Sayeret Matkal (SAS/Delta Force equivalent), but fell off during boot camp when they found out that I hidden the fact that I have Scoliosis and Flatfoot. The Sayeret is part of the Intelligence Corp, so remained in that frame, and kinda was passed around until I ended up in said counter-intell as counter-cyber NCO. Naturally, I can't specify much about most of it, but the cell-phone and access cards thing can give you the general idea about the day-to-day work. Eventually I got bored sitting in office all day, so I persuaded my officers to allow me to experiment with stuff, so I ended up traveling a lot, arriving to remote bases to make connections with people to strengthen the counter-humint side of things as well as consulting commanders during exercises. That proved to be super helpful during the 2014 Gaza op, especially because I got to see things not only from the blueforce tracker in the a/c-ed office.
If you have a more specific question- I'll gladly answer what I can.

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>The water arrived to the mosque in al-Samra and destroyed many farmland in the eastern suburbs of Raqqa after the blocking of al-Bilekh river by IS

apparently IS is blocking the Euphrates east of taqbah damn and creating flooding because . . . ??!? Idk. There is a joke about arkansas here I am sure. Perhaps flooding the area to make it impassible and ward off attacks from the east?

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>>33864195
>>33864205
>>33864220

safe zone areas

>>33841076
Moscow 2080

>>33865935
REALLY

>>33862817
Hey man if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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>>33864503
cool war stories from gaza? what do you think of trump and his middle east initiative do you give it a chance? you probably cant talk about current stuff (syria)

>>33864503
Unlucky about Sayeret Matkal, but your job sounds interesting still. I won't ask more, because I know it's obviously not safe to share. Thanks "ahi", as you guys say.

>>33864624

Very interesting. Say, is that lowest zone exactly where the US, Canadian and some other Special Forces had a training camp which was attacked by the ISIS just the other day?

Russia just announced that they have stopped bombing targets in Syria, as a result of the safe zone agreement.

I wasn't aware that there even was a brick left unbombed, but hey.

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>>33866778
in the mideast the civilians bombs themselves so its probably alright if the russians take some time off

>>33866916

What the hell happened? Secondary explosion, or snipers?

>>33867270
Middle Eastern film makers having fun.

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The idea of the SAA moving to eastern Homs has panned out. The SAA will attempt to break the Deir Ezzor siege. This is a similar open question I had for Hama asking if they can reach Morek. Can they do it? Regardless this is going to be fun to watch. I love eastern Homs action. The Russians could play a key role. This is their AO.

>>33866091
> Cool war stories from gaza?
Well, I was, what we call, a "jobnik"- an HQ office worker. Closest I ever got to actual "action" was when I went to a staging area to collect a computer retrieved from a med-evaced intell officer, and a mortar (60mm) landed about 15m away from me when I stoped to refuel.
I heard the whistle just in time to jump into prone, but it ricocheted a rock into another's guy leg. I ran to him and held the wound for few seconds until a medic that was nearby came up and started taking care of him.
It was the first time I was in a life threatening situation, so I went into auto pilot and came back only after a few minutes to realiize that the adrenaline rush gave me a slight stiffy.

>>33866091
> what do you think of trump
I don't think that his exact ME plans are fully consolidated yet, but whatever they will be, he's already a breeze of fresh air after 8 years of Obama. Trump will probably try to seem balanced, but I think that he sees the Palis through as the Akbars that they are.

>>33868138
>>33866091
> syria
Business as usual: Syria is still an enemy state that we're at cold-ish war with.
The public's general consensus, believe it or not, is to stay out of the conflict and just wish luck to all sides. The our airstrikes have little to no effect on the actuall fighting because it's a whole different front, where Syria and Hezbollah spend dedicated resources they wern't utilized in their war anyway.
We were ok with Assad: an unspoken agreement made that border the quietest one we had in 40 years (occasional cat&mouse airstrikes aside). While the government's policy was ok with this status quo, this "change in the situation" only benefits Israel: resources that once were used against us (sponsoring terror cells in West Bank and Gaza, sharing intell with Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah, attacking Israeli targets abroad), are now redirected to fights among themselves.
On the more "strategic" level of things, the dissolve of Syria weakens their claim for the Golan, which we officially annexed (unlike the Judea and Samaria) and consider ours. Further more, destruction of Syrian nationality will strengthen a position against the Palestinians (only minor threat, but major pain in the ass) by claiming that their nationality is EVEN MORE artificial.
The nearly one downside to this is that if some Daesh/AQ/Whatever will rule Syria, than we'll have unstable radicals on the border- but it's nothing we can't handle.

Now, how much Israel is involved in the fighting there? Based on my experience and familiarity with some of the bodies that would be responsible for such involvment, I would say that it's minimal. International involvment prevents us from making any influential decisions, and helping one side without insurence that it will win and it won't blow up in our face is too risky- so I believe that we mostly just observe and secure more obscure interests (protecting Druze villages, fighting Iranian footholds).

Seeing we have a Mossad guy among us, and it is frankly a honor, I would like to ask how Israel's relating to Putin and his reign. I have had this idea that what with the enormous influx of Russian immigrants the Bear's influence and the Israeli friendliness toward them would increase, but last time I aired that one in this forum I was told the ex Russians couldn't care less about their ancestors' country. What do you say?

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>>33868527
Mossad guy here. All I can say is Oy Vey

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>>33868138
>The adrenaline rush gave me a slight stiffy

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>>33868527

>>33868629
>/k/ookie monster wall paper at 300x188

anon you make me want to throw up

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>>33867270

White Helmets propaganda production to be fed to Western fake news to support the narrative of barrel bombs and MUH CHILLUNS.

>>33853864
Well, Spicer has pretty much set the bar when it comes to badly formulated..well anything desu

>>33856857
Norsk?

>>33836723
How long til these babies get hit by a Turkish artillery strike

>>33868724

Jada. Det er vel en håndfull av oss på /k/.

>>33868562
געוואלד
>>33868527
I see 2 questions here: general Israeli view/relations with Russia, and Israel's ex-Russians view/influece on the subject.
Israeli ex-Russians:
there are 2 main groups here: the ones who're indifferent twords Russia, and the ones who resent it.
Most Russian "repatriates" that came here in the 90's didn't simply migrated here, they fled here; either because they hated Russua, or because they loved Israel. Additionaly, most of them are Jews, and not actually Russian/Slavs, so have more loyalty to the "father's land" than to "mother Russia". Combine that with classic USSR-inherited education that favors nationalism (bossting the Israeli sense in them)- that's one of more hardcore Israeli sectors. The near only positive sense that they have for Russia, is merly due to nostalgia ("back in good 'ol days") and cultural association,

Will continue when I get home from work.

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>>33832769
>thought the movie was going to be about spetsnaz operatan in Syria
>it's a drama movie

REEEEE

>>33845234
Fucking awesome.

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bumpm

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Thoughts on SAA/Russian "Operation Lavender" to break the Deir Ezzor siege. I definitely expect IS spoiler attacks. The SAA will need thousands of troops/armor/air support clearing out the countryside. The best hope for them is the SDF/US battle for Raqqa puts so much pressure on IS they have to abandon eastern Homs. Khanasir and Jirah airbase fronts come into play as well as Deir Ezzor city itself. Also whatever the FSA is doing in the desert south of Palmyra. IS might attack them in force.
SAA/Russians timing this to go along with the SDF/US battle around and into Raqqa.

>>33870572

You don't think the FSA unit south of Palmyra is a ruse to lure the IS out of their hidey holes?

>>33869099
>>33868527
> Israeli-Russia relations
tl:dr Russia is seen as a rival state- a stage between neutral and enemy.
They supply and support our enemies, but have no personal beef with us. Yet, some kind of diplomatic relation is maintained to keep some kind of influence over their support of our enemies, because it's a powerful country that it's best to be on good terms with and because IL feels (for many years) that Europe abandoned us and grows more hostile each day while Obama destroyed decades of good relations nearly to a point beyond repair. Here, actually, the ex-Russians make into great diplomats, as they speak the language and understand the mentality.
RU, on the other, shows a great interest in IL, because it sees it as the dominant player in the region (even if a relatively passive one) and potential local superpower. From my line of work- RU invests great a intelligence (and not only) effort in IL.

How does this translate to air traffic agreement in the Syrian area? Contrary to what some seem to believe here, it's a mutual-interests agreement, and not one of dominance assertion.
IL doesn't wait for approval to do it's stuff, nor RU adjusts it actions to IL's needs. RU was notified about some strikes (allegedly, and allegedly Israeli) and just didn't intervene, leaving Syrian AA to relay on itself. Other strikes (mainly ones where RU itself was involved) were carried out without notifying RU in ways that didn't brake the agreed upon protocol.
Why does RU tolerate this kind of behavior and, effectively, treats IL almost as an equal in this situation?
A) Because of the political reasons I mentioned in the paragraph above.
B) The IDF/IAF is capable enough to bypass any prohibition the RU can imposes under it's limited capability in Syria, so it's smarter to just make it into an agreement.
C) 1 thing that RU doesn't want, is to get into a stupid skirmish with IL that might snowball into WW3.

>>33870652
I thought they were advancing to clear eastern Qalamoun IS but have advanced deep into desert near Palmyra/at T3. It's a deadly area to be without further plans. Even the SAA could attack them.

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>>33870672

You have been most accommodating. I think I understand more now. If you are interested, I can give you a brief view at how Scandinavia, well Norway mainly, looks at Israel today. Unless you already are well enough briefed.

>>33870820
actually, that sounds interesting. My only interaction with Norwegians in the military was limited to friendly looks exchange with officers from some kind of delegation to the Gaza division, and now it's only religious old ladies in the hotel I'm working in, endlessly barging about how Norway lost it's faith in Christ but they're going to fix it and then everybody will love Israel.

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>https://www.rt.com/news/387306-ukraine-bans-steven-seagal-threat/

So did all the hurr Trump gunna invade Syria threat just poof up?

Was it all a ruse?

>>33870888

I am 49. That means I am old enough to remember the politics of the 80s, 90s, 00s. And there has been a big change in perception, of Israel as a state. They used to be seen as outcasts, same as the apartheid South Africa; totalitarian dominators of the poor Palesitinians who used to have a lot of political support here while Arafat still live. Peace Prize, ahaha. And we had those unfortunate Mossad assassinations of Palestinians. That was in the 70s and 80s. The far lefties would go in demonstrations for the Palestinian cause, while the more centric socialists would be on speaking terms with the socialist party in Israel. The only parties that really supported the Israeli cause, or rather the jewish one, were the christians party and the far right end one. It is also important that we had a few, and very vocally active, Palestinian refugees here. While Israel was represented by one embassador more embarassing than the next.

I think the music changed its tune either when Arafat died and the whole Fatah collapsed, or when 9/11 happened. After that, Israel and the Palestinians became the jews and the muslims. The Hamas were far less palatable to us than the Fatah and the political ties with the Palestinian side vanished. Meanwhile IL got Netanyahu who no one here likes, not even the pro-Israeli parties, but there are no longer demonstrations here when IL builds yet another block on occupied territory.

So now? Hamas has made no friends with us; this might not sound important but back in Arafat's day there were considerable funds going from Norway to Fatah territory. Private, and aid funds. As for Israel? The right wing block and the centrist socialists are allowing more trade and contact than in a long time, even military work. As long as you guys can avoid killing a bunch of genuine civilians or avoid be seeing aiding it, it looks like we can do business. There was a time when you might not want to say you was an Israeli in out streets. (cont)

>>33871133

Today, there's no problem with that. With the born and bred Norwegians that is; we have a muslim minority here. But they are struggling more with fitting in than you would be.

What else is there? Most of the political parties, or about 90% of the voters, are either pro Israel or not particularly against them. Only some very left wing people will still boycott a fruit or product if they see it is made in Israel.

Even Mossad? The worst I can think of people mentioning you these days is that you were involved with the CIA black sites. But so was Norway. Essentially you have managed to remain respected but obscure around here anyway, and what could be better?

Half an hour after the safe zones went active, a huge explotion have been heard north of Homs.

>>33842796
Pfamaskm

>>33871365
It has begun: MASSIVE Russian and Syrian air strikes on ISIS targets all over Syria.

Operation "Lavander" - offensive towards Deir Ezzor to break the siege has begun ,apprently offensive isnt even under SAA command but russian general is leading it..

ISIS targets are being hit all over Syria at the moment by SyaAF and RuAF

>>33871415
Here we go: #RuAF #SyAF airstrikes pounding #EastHoms & #EastHama, especially tanker bases of #ISIS

>>33844373
hybristophilia

>>33859774
For you.