Performance center 327

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Gonna probably wanna find some different grips though.

Not something I'd ever consider buying.

>>33824003
my only question is why you would want an exposed hammer on such a small revolver, it's supposed to be easy to pocket

>>33824003
>snub nose large frame 357 revolver

for what purpose?

>>33824003
>Performance center 327
You're not gonna get much performance out of .357 with a 2" barrel.

And jesus christ that MSRP. You could have bought two really nice used .357s for that kind of money.

Different strokes for different folks and all but I wouldn't waste my cash on that.

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>>33824269
I have the money to drop on one available. Put it on layaway since I'm patient.

I considered the more reasonable 627, but this one saves something line 15oz of weight with the titanium cylinder. I've read that you should stick to 38+P for snubbies, and I know I probably could have gotten one for cheaper, but I wanted an 8 shot that could go both ways.

>titanium

Not even once, I hear constant issues of galling, cracking, etc.

mr1911 did a series on it if you want more info

>>33824003
Good luck if you ever need to sell that gun because you're gonna take a bath on it.. The market for something like that is very small.

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>>33824375
To me the 627 is a much more attractive revolver. The extra .625 of barrel length means 357 will perform reasonably well
(125 gr pdx1 or gold dots all the way bby)

It will also most likely be more durable. If you're carrying an n Frame you're already going to need a good belt and holster regardless of the weight, so the meme materials don't really give you that much of an advantage when carrying

>>33824420
That being said you deserve credit for understanding how awesome 8x 357s are, I just think you chose the wrong one

Does it come with matching hillary hole?

>>33824420
I understand your point of view. I was thinking about a shoulder holster rig, so weight probably won't be much of an issue anyway, but the weight savings are still huge.

I'll do some research on what ammo would be best for it's barrel length, but I think it's more than sufficient enough to do the job at the distances I'm imagining myself being in most probably. This a huge advantage over the shittY LCP I was using prior. I'm redelegating the LCP to backup waistbelt or pocket pistol now.

>>33824519
I should add that S&W seems to come out with different versions every now and then. I may contact them and see if they have any longer (2 1/4 - 2 1/2 preferably) barrels available. The only other one was the 5in model, which was just too big for me.

>>33824519
The 627 with a couple of speedloaders in a holster rig would be an awesome setup. Have you decided what brand to go with?

>>33824568
I'm pretty much decided on the 327, and I read that magnums probably arent a wise decision in it, at least for HD "hallway-distance" ranges, due to flash and kick. I may have more control in a typical SD situation with them.

Most people seem to advice a really hot 38+p, brand wise, I have no clue yet. Gold dots I suppose?

>>33824519
The 627 with a couple of speedloaders in a holster rig would be an awesome setup. Have you decided what brand to go with?

>>33824611
That's an awfully big gun to just be shooting 8 rounds of what will essentially be 9mm

357 magnum even in a snub nose will give you better expansion/ penetration
I'd still go with 125 grain PDX1s they do very well out of short barrels. The whole extraction issue is not a big issue with a forceful smack they'll fly out.

I'd also suggest changing out the wood for pachmayrs - more concealable and more comfortable to shoot

>>33824003
I'd rather buy Winrar.

>>33824649
I'll keep that in mind, thanks. I'm sure extraction won't be too bad.

The grips sure are pretty and all, but they're the only thing I knew would need a change right away. They're a little wide for my liking, but that's probably just because the gun is bigger than my typical carry.

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>>33824003
>buying something because Karl said he carries it

>>33824715
When did Karl say he carried it? I dont watch InRange as much as I should.

>>33824003
You did well. Probably the most capable snubbie on the market and the only one I'd consider as a primary carry.

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>Performance Center
A titanium cylinder 357 with a 2" barrel and an 8 round capacity, weighs almost 24oz unloaded. It's such an awkward ungainly package for CC, and shelling out an extra few hundred dollars for the fancy version that arguably makes it worse?

>>33827002
>awkward ungainly package

For you

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>>33824003
I'd never consider a full-size revolver for serious use that didn't have a full-length ejector rod.

>>33824774
Walther CCP recall video
I'm rather surprised actually

>>33829736
>surprised

I'm not he's a complete autist, of course he carries retarded shit like the ccp and the 327

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>>33829736
I love how he shilled so hard on the ccp and then had to send out a video about the recall

>>33829777
I was expecting him to carry some wheraboo gun than a Smith revolver

>>33829805
Would have been badass if he carried a p38 or something

>>33824003
RIP: The web of your thumb and index finger

>327

Yeah, that's a pretty strange bird as far as revolvers go. You can't shoot magnums lighter than 125 grains in it because they will erode the cylinder, and it has a tiny barrel that doesn't allow you to take advantage of its cartridge's great ballistics. At the same time, it's an N-frame, which effectively precludes the ability to conceal it due to how large it is.

While I do think it looks cool and probably handles nicely, I would rather have purchased a Model 27 or 627 over that one.

>>33829822
Buddy, I shoot pocket pistols with hot loads, it's already numb. The AMT backup I have is particularly painful. It's become a part of shooting to me, haha.

>>33824003
>327
>in .357
what did they mean by this

>>33832681
The 27 means it's a model 27. The 3 in front means it uses an alloy frame.

If it had a 6 it would mean it's a stainless steel frame.

A 5 would mean a blue finish.

>>33833534
Noice.

>>33834658
S&W naming and numbering conventions can be a little complicated, but once you understand it, it does make identifying their stuff a little easier.

>>33834825
>>33834658
Oh, and I should have added that the 3 means a Scandium alloy frame while a 4 would have meant an Aluminum.

i have been wanting one for years.

>>33824221
It's not small or suitable for pocket carry it's on a large frame.

>>33824003
I like it, the people that bad mouth it are repeating memes about cracking etc. It's been in production over 10 years. I have a friend who has one of the first one's and shoots it weekly no problems. It is for a person who appreciates it's special qualities.

>>33824003
>>33824237
This is the real question.

Why?

Unless you see some reason for it, there isn't really a point.

If you want a snubby .357, get a 340 PD

If you want a large frame, get a 686

But a large frame snubby? I just... Why?

>>33830885
Virgil Mcilvaine is that you?

>>33836117
>686
>Large frame
A 686 is a K/L frame which is medium. A large frame would be an N frame which is a model 27 or 28.

>>33836379
Fine, that then.

I'm not a revolver guy. But I'm still quite certain that 327 is pointless.

>>33836808
327 is a weird little niche. Some people might like it, some might hate it. Most guns are about personal taste and this is one of those cases.

>>33836117
I prefer revolvers and specifically wanted a lightweight, 8 shot, carry revolver that is suitable for 38 and 357, this is really the only option I can find that meets all of those. The only drawback is that I would have preferred a barrel half an inch longer, which I might be able to find since s&w has made this model in varying lengths over the years.

The only true negative I see is that the wear on the titanium cylinder can happen, but I'm also thinking that is due to improper maintenance mostly. I'll stay away from high pressure magnum loads to prevent this issue.

>>33837864
I forgot to add that S&W will replace the cylinder if wear becomes a problem. I havent heard of them replacing it with another titanium one, but there are multiple instances of them replacing it with a steel one.

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>>33837864
>I would have preferred a barrel half an inch longer, which I might be able to find since s&w has made this model in varying lengths
I think your only other barrel option for the 327PD is the 4" one that they used to make.
It only weighed 24.3 oz, so still reasonably lightweight for carry.

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>>33839606
>used to make
Wat? They're no longer produced?

>mfw I make my buddies shoot it

>>33839606
I saw that one too. Unfortunately they werent selling that one. Ill see if they still sell barrels, or if I can find one. I know the 327s have a weird barrel lockup that's unique to the gun or something, ill have to see how viable it is for a smith to do a barrel swap in the future.

>>33839665
Of course they discontinued them; why would anyone want an 8-shot .357 that weighs as much as an empty Glock 19?
What possible use could there be for such a thing?
It's surprising they bothered making such a ridiculous gun in the first place.

>>33824003
>no bobbed hammer
see name field

>>33839994
bobbed hammers are virtue signalling

>>33839927
Not sure what you're on about. 8-shot revolvers are great, and there should honestly be more of them. Yeah it's a niche gun for people that swing a different way than most, but there is no reason it's any worse than another revolver.

>>33840261
>Not sure what you're on about.
I tried to lay the bitter sarcasm on thick enough that it would be obvious even in text form but I clearly failed.

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Bretty gud. I still get a chub when i think of the 327 TRR8.

>>33824378
He also admitted that he used a ton of different ammo types in it. I've also read that shooters should stay away from high pressure loads of 357.

S&W also have a killer replacement policy for the cylinders. Need a new one? send it in and get a new titanium cylinder.

>>33830885
>AMT backup
Oh I get it, you like terrible horrible very bad no good guns

>>33824003
Been very interested in one for a couple years now. I'll definitely pick one up as soon as I'm able. If anyone wants to know more about them a YouTuber that goes by TheOl1911 did a few video updates over the course of a year of carrying it. Good info.

>>33840629
You clearly don't own one. There's nothing wrong with one, other than that it seriously hurts to shoot.

>>33840976
The AMT backup is a notoriously unreliable piece of shit. Like much of AMTs shit. I had one, it wouldn't run and ammo whatsoever. At all. Nothing on it was broken, just the gun as an assembly sucks ass. Google Amt Backup and read forum posts. There's few if any positive mentions.