Just try

>>33816759
Magazine is difficult to grasp, the slide is unintuitive, no barrel shroud or rail, limited customization options... you can't even put a proper sight on it.

>>33816759

>Expensive

>>33816759
Single stack magazine

>>33816759
Ammo sensitive

>german

>>33816759
>hideous grip safety

>>33816792

>slide is unintuitive
>slide

I guess toggles are a little too high brow for an American to operate

>>33816759
used by nazis

>>33816863
>toggle
>the most obtuse of all racking mechanisms
Maybe the krauts intentionally designed it so bizarrely to prevent captured lugers from being used.

>>33816759
Grip safety

horrible safety placement

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>>33816759
Not even memeing, but Glocks are better in every way imaginable. Ergos, materials, not ammo sensitive, capacity, you name it. The only thing a Luger has up on it is the collector's value that got artificially inflated by Wehraboos. But as time goes by, the Wehraboos will die out and even the Glocks will be more collectible than this thing is.

>>33816759
overly-complex design

and ugly as fuck

>>33816863
But Lugers do have a slide....

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>>33816759
>posting interarms stamped parts piece of shit
OP = faggot

real luger master race

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>>33818806
>Glocks are better at frag damage

FTFY

>>33819063
I wouldn't limit it to glocks. Most plastic based pistols take your hand when the explode.

When a steel/alum frame explodes it usually just detonates the slide off

>>33816759
"Jams"

>>33816759
hand-fitted parts make them prohibitively expensive to manufacture

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>>33816759
It's scratch

>>33816904
>used by Nazis
>a flaw

>>33819429
Weapons grade AUTISM!

>>33816759
used by a 'thousand year reich' that lasted for nein years

>>33818806
>Glocks will become more collectable than Lugers

What the fuck are you smoking, nigga?

>>33820710
P-08 was Imperial Germany though. 1871-1918. Not Hitler's 1933-1945

>>33816759
>Luger in .45 AARP
Its a Luger that costs a "Million" Dollars
Or you could by a Krausewerks .45 ACP Luger, Actually pretty /comfy/ gun. Mr Krause is a nice dude as well

>>33816815
Use proper ammo and not cheap Tulammo shit and you'll be fine.

>>33819038
gib artillery Luger and snail mag pls

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>>33820769
Now I need a baby luger from him.

>>33820927
If you have 20k to spare he'll make you one. Like I said Mr. Krause is a super cool dude

>>33818806
Luger also has much better aesthetics than a Glock. Not that that's saying much, a fresh squeezed turd looks better than a Glock.

>>33816759
>low capacity
>unnecessarily complex
>maintenance heavy, prone to malfunctions when dirty
>only works reliably with a narrow selection of ammo
>any replacement parts need to be hand fitted
>grip safety is unnecessary and just another point of failure in an already finnicky gun.
>sights are hard to read in low light
>special snowflake toggle means there is no way to charge the gun when your support hand is fucked

It's a beautiful piece of engineering but as a service handgun it sucks a dick.

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>>33821340
As someone who owns one it's fucking impossible to load rounds into the mag by hand

>>33819038
OP's photo is one of the 1907 .45 caliber trials pistols.

>>33816759
The complaints with the trials guns were:

Failure of rust test. The pistol operated but had to be manually cycled.

Final closure of the breech is not performed by positive spring action.

Ammo sensitivity as demonstrated when using Frankford Arsenal-made ammunition compared to the German-made ammo it had been tuned for. This may be less of a concern today as smokeless powder was still in its infancy in 1906 and DWM's powder was not available in the US for testing.

>>33818806
>Not even memeing

But you just did, fagfuck.

>magazines are shit
>grip angle is fucked
>toggle is a meme action
>lol9mm
>the wehraboos it attracts is reason enough to avoid it

>>33816759
As a bit of a Luget nur (one of my favorite guns to shoot) I have a few qualms with it as anything except a target pistol.

The magazine capacity is shit and the sights are meh but that I can look past.

However someone has to modernize and simplify this.
Seriously, it's fucking begging for it.
Double stack mags, cheapened production, enhanced sights.
It could truly be the best handgun on the market.
But nobody wants to try anything but the old browning tilting barrel system sadly...

>>33816759
Pretty much the only flaw is the shitty grip safety your pic has
Without it the luger is pretty much perfect

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>>33823530
>magazines are shit
How
>grip angle is fucked
Its actually the most comfortable grip on any handgun I've held
>toggle is a meme action
Only because people just forgot about it, its a super solid action all around
>lol9mm
Hurr durr muh stopping power
>wehraboos
Better than slavaboos
>inb4 tokarev and mak are gods pistols

>>33823386
If you're a limp fingered pussy
Shove the assist down and pop the fuckers in, all it takes

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>>33821340
>Low capacity
How bad of a shot are you that 8 rounds isnt enough?
>unnecessarily complex
Eh, hard to argue that, but as far as field stripping its pretty simple
>maintenance heavy, prone to malfunctions when dirty
Pure fudd-lore, lugers are fucking tanks and the condition some of the war relics I've used most guns would cease to function while the luger works fine
>only works reliably with a narrow selection of ammo
Depends on the condition of your springs, better conditioned ones run fine with standard 9's, rougher ones need some surplus or +p, which is still not narrow
>replacement parts
I'd genuinely be shocked if you managed to break a luger anyways
>grip safety
Only OP's model has that
>sights hard to read in low light
So us every other non-night sight, if you're that much of a pussy paint on them
>toggle cant be charged one handed
Except it can, the toggle locks open on empty

>>33821142
Wasn't he also planning to make 7.62 Tokarev M1 carbines, or eas that some other German gunsmith?

>>33823643
Some folks experienced finnicky mags that either won't feed properly or would cause a malfunction related to extraction. Also how good is the grip to hold with two hands? I know its designed was meant for the pistol doctrine of its time when officers would shoot it with one hand

>>33818806
>But as time goes by, the Wehraboos will die out
Never going to happen. New Wehraboos are born every day.

>>33824006
I have seen a few where the mags dont seem to age too well and the springs get a little finnicky, but I imagine some oil would fix that right up
Its possible with two hands but it genuinely molds to your hand, its definitely got the feel of old school target pistols
This is definitely just speculation but you could probably get the same group if not better with one hand instead of two with a luger

>>33819038
pls explain lower right

>>33824049
It's a loading tool for the snail drum.

>>33823943
Pretty sure that was Herbert Werel.

>>33824006
The mags can be...troublesome.
It's by virtue of the mag body being slightly weaker than it probably should have been and then made out of aluminum. They'll bend ever so slightly (at least some mags will) and create friction where it shouldn't be.

Just buy them at gun shows and test the mags with some dummy rounds if you can.

And as for the grip, It's actually perfectly fine either way, but know this: picking one up will make you want to shoot it GI stance wether it improves your aim or not.
Shooting it feels akin to having .0005 seconds of a BJ from a Valkyrie whilst your hair and eyes go blonde and blue for a moment.
Lugers are accurate as hell and easy to use.

>>33816759
>Expensive to produce due to many machined components
>Needs relatively tight tolerances
>Ammo sensitive, will not cycle completely with wrong load in ammo
>Does not function well if covered in dirt/mud

>>33816759
Flaws for its time?
Too time-consuming and expensive to produce.
Other than that it was an excellent pistol for its day.

In the modern day?
That, and
single stack magazine
grip designed for an outdated shooting method
no good way to mount an RMR
no good way to mount a light
too heavy
too complicated

>>33819467
Go away /pol/

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>>33824700
Luger magazine bodies are made from steel. They came with tin-plated, nickel-plated and blued finishes on the body and wood, aluminum and plastic bases depending on the year and location of manufacture.

The biggest problem with Luger magazines are the springs. They require exceedingly strong springs to maintain proper function with the steep angle. They have a low tolerance for wear so issues arise once the springs 'break in'.

Here is one of my P.08's with a spare nickel plated magazine with wood base.

>>33816907
That could only stop an actual retard, and even then most have enough common sense to figure it out.

>>33818806
>a gun with almost 80 years of weaponry innovation is better than a gun from your grandfather's last deployment
haha ok

So sexy that it's impossible to focus on firing it when all one's blood is in one's dick.

>>33819038
Honestly though, if one is looking for a shooter isn't an interarms mauser the best option over a mismatched pitted, worn, dead spring commercial in the same price range?

I mean, I could get one for 800-1100ish, or I could spend 1600-2k+ on an S42 that I can ruin the value of if a part breaks.

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>>33828945
You want to shoot it right? Just a get a shooter grade and buy spare parts as needed. Hell you can even get brand new barrels made if you need one.

If you have a cheaper luger you'll still love it and can re-finish/fix it without feeling guilty. I've had no regrets with mine in .30 luger.

You can even still find shoulder stocks for the thing which are fun as hell and quasi-legal to use.
https://www.cmrfirearms.com/product_info.php?cPath=134_135_144&products_id=623

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>>33829683

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>>33818806
>glocks will become more collectable than lugers becuase all the naziboos will die.

wow, >>>/r/eddit go the fuck back liberal scum.

>>33818806
ngr what glocks look like dried hunks of horse shit why in the of god would u even think that ugly mass produced piece of explosive feces would exceed the Luger in value?

>>33829683
Seems like too much of a tossup to me. I'd hate to get one with problems that needs this and that replaced and is just worn out with a pitted bore.

Either way I'm having too mcuh trouble finding any at a good price anyway, finding one at a good price in good shape will be an even bigger bitch. Why is it so hard.

And I just missed an 850$ 4" 9mm interarms because I wanted to see what I could find at a gunshow first. There wasn't a single luger at said gunshow anyway. There's one at a local gunshop. A commercial that was pitted badly enough to need to be buffed, had all the markings buffed off and was refinished, and also has a broken firing pin and the toggle will not cycle back down without being pushed down. And the best part is it's 1200$. This is why I'm timid to buy an older luger when I can potentially get a near new one cheaper.

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>>33830036
Jesus that sounds awful anon.

I got mine from some old guy off armslist for $750 pre-sandy vag. It only had 15% finish left but the metal was good and it's worked flawlessly since then and even works with reproduction mags I buy off e-bay. I get a stovepipe or failure to feed every hundred rounds or so but its a range toy so who cares ya know?

It sounds like you really have your heart set on getting one in good shape with all the proper markings though so if I were you I'd save a little bit more cash and get what I really wanted. Besides anything is likely to wear out is un-serialized anyways. Springs, firing pin, etc.

Just be sure to kill something with it every once in a while.

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>>33830180
>shooting varmits like its 1939

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>>33830216

>>33830180
Is there really anything wrong with Mauser Parabellums other than the fact that they're not historical? I'll likely get either depending on what shows up as a good deal first. A new luger I was watching on GB went for 1600$ recently, so as with every firearm I want, the prices get ridiculous when I start looking for them. I watched several go under a grand over the past year or so. I'm not overpaying this time. I've had a bad history of paying too much for guns because I wanted them hard enough in the past.

>>33816759
Grip safety got caught in my sphincter while dressed as waffen SS from the waist up. ER staff sang the "Springtime for Hitler" song from the producers for me.

0/10 would not insert into ass again.

>>33830460
I'm not really sure to be honest. However, I assume that post war production when they aren't being bombed and materials/skilled labor are in constant supply they wouldn't suck and might even be slightly higher quality.

Somebody told me once you only buy a luger for one of two reasons, the stamps or for the guts/frame.

>>33830230
oh look its the best filename

>>33830732
I bought a Luger because it was a Luger and didn't look back.
>K-date for 1,200

>>33825257
Gas yourself kike

>>33816759
ugly

>>33830230
Pathetic loser killing innocent wild things.
I'm putting you with the Jews in the next race war