How do you think Europe would cope if Russia launched a full

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>>33813264
The Scandinavians would BTFO Russia as they have for centuries.

It wouldn't work like that. A large conventional military cannot build up for an invasion without flagging up some major red flags.

Would the US troops stationed in Europe be withdraw before hand?

>>33813264
Russia is currently poorer than Italy, how can they afford to take and hold so much land?

>>33813322

US isn't taking part so it would be up to European intelligence agencies and European satellites to spot Russian troop build ups. Which European leader is going to give the order for a preemptive strike against Russia?

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Europe would fall quickly.

European armies are in a sorry state and quite small.

Russia is ready for war.

A couple of nukes and Europe would quickly surrender.

>>33813264
Considering the current and past nature of the Russian navy, so long as my nation's air-force hold on we would be fine.

>>33813408
>Russia is ready for war.
lol

It doesn't have the ability to mount offensive operations on such a wide front.

>>33813408
>a couple nukes
Sure buddy.

>>33813287
>The Scandinavians
What Scandinavians? Those countries are full of Somalians and arabs now.

ITT: People who are pretending that it's still 1914. Europe then isn't Europe now.

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>>33813575

They have a standing army far larger than anything Europa have. They are upgrading it. They also have a superpowers worth of nukes.

>>33813601

Without the US backing us, yes. Nuke a capitol or two and Europe would surrender or get flattened.

>>33813264
The Russian military is just as shitty as ours, nothing to be afraid of, they'd probably get stuck before the first river with destroyed bridges

Why is it that Europeans seem to be incapable of learning anything from the immense death and suffering that happens every time they underestimate Russia as a military opponent? Did not quite enough of Napoleon's troops freeze to death on the retreat from Moscow? Did not quite enough of the Wehrmacht bleed out in the mud of Kursk? Why do you never learn this lesson?

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>>33813616
>ITT: People who are pretending that it's still 1914. Europe then isn't Europe now.

<<< back to your Russian propaganda hugbox board

>>33813264
European combined air forces and navies are several levels above Russia's. Ivan would be kicked back to Moscow very quickly imo.

>>33813408

>lifeinthezone.jpg

>>33813667
Because those armies attacked Russia.
Unless the europoor are planning in taking over Moscow there's no need for a military buildup.

You are a child

All they would do is open up banners saying welcome.

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>>33813616

>Full of Somalians and Arabs now

So Russia gets to deal with insurgency. The glass is half full, anon.

Finland and Poland fight to the death.
Meanwhile germany, after much discussion, decides to enact moderate economic sanctions. Both left and right wing extremist criticize the decision, stating that russia had been provoked and should be met with tolerance and understanding.

Russia would win many battles but not the war.

>>33813765
And Czech president sends to the Kremlin a letter of concerns, and reminder of partnership between the fellow Slavic nations

>>33813620

Forgetting Europe has nukes and would most likely retaliate quickly. If Russia doesn't care then it carries on allowing it's cities to be glassed while it tries to capture its neighbours.

>>33813874

France and GB have some nukes, nothing against full russian arsenal. Russia is to big to really notice.

>>33813862

This. Russia steam rolls a few nearby countries and gets bogged down somewhere between France and Belgium.

Meanwhile China is grabbing the popcorn.

>>33813264
Good question, but you're not going to get a decent answer on day/k/are

>>33813902
> France and GB have some nukes, nothing against full russian arsenal
Retard.
The only scenario where having thousands of nukes versus a few hundred is a clear advantage is in a counter force first strike.
>Russia is to big to really notice.
Double retard.

>>33813620
It might be larger, but think about logistics. Many of their units have trouble conducting exercises outside of their immediate garrison area. Look how they performed in Ukraine, artillery units had trouble firing in support of the rebels while still remaining in Russia. Not to mention their Air Forces and Navy leave much to be desired. The likelihood of being able to interdict shipping, transportation and the logistical points behind the lines is low.

>Without the US backing us, yes. Nuke a capitol or two and Europe would surrender or get flattened.
They retaliate with their own nukes, then nobody wins.

>people actually think Russia could win a war against the combined economic and industrial might the E.U

All jokes and memes aside Russia isn't the military powerhouse it used to be during the days of the USSR. It does not have the economy, industry or population to successfully launch an invasion on the EU. You can say, "Oh but russia has thousands of nukes" Yes and while that maybe true the EU still has hundreds of their own and you do not want a war with any country or union of countries that launch several nukes back.

>>33813340
They can't. Russia won't even be around much longer.

How I know someone doesn't know shit about politics or economics: they think Russia or China is stronk.

>>33813902
>Number of nukes matters in anything except a counter force scenario
Both the Uk and France rely on a counter value strategy, the explicit reason they have nuclear weapons is to deter nuclear attack by having a means to cause maximum civilian suffering in the countries that attacked them

>>33813616
surprisingly, this does not actually negate >>33813287 statement. both groups have actually proven capable of resisting Russian aggression.

admittedly they both do it in completely different ways, but they still do it.

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>>33813264
The UK alone has a bigger defence budget than Russia. Add France and that's more than twice their budget. Add another 20 odd nations and you get the picture.

There's also no way for a large scale invasion to have any surprise in the 21st century.

>>33813322
>It wouldn't work like that. A large conventional military cannot build up for an invasion without flagging up some major red flags.
Not really true, or rather you don't need to build up for an invasion if the focus of your military is already in one location.

The main interest point of Russia is it's western front.

If the Russians were constantly moving their support logistics around and now and then moving a combat unit in the field in the west given enough time Europe would ignore them as nothing has happened.

This is hard on gear but it's also a good way to filter out junk equipment that would have failed within a few days anyway.

When it's time to attack you activate everything at once and hit a semi ready defensive force with a combined land air strike.

You can only sit at a defensive war status for so long before your commanders and troops lose interest.

It would take russia months of mobilization to get ready for any kind of invasion.
There is no way whatsoever that it would go unnoticed. The invasion would grind to a halt in Poland.

>>33813287
>he doesn't know about the great northern war

>>33813264
>I think Russia would win some stunning successes

Russia can't even win completly in Chechnya and have not made any progress in more than 2 years in Ukraine, they would get their shit pushed in by the Poles alone nevermind the rest of the Euros.
Don't forget that Russia is still stuck in the cold war in many regards, this goes for large parts of their military as well, just look at how fucking clumsy their psyops is.

>>33816260
>ukraine
oh boy here we go

>>33816342
inb4 "was getting bogged down in a low-intensity conflict sucking away resources you can't afford to spare a part of your plan?"

>>33816382
not even close

>>33813287
>Scandinavians
Muslims and Africans don't know how to fight you retard.

>>33816777
someone already posted that meme, slowpoke.

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>>33816802
>meme

>>33814923
>UK
#1 name is Mohammed.

>France
whites are already a minority in 18 and under age group.

explain to me why these two countries would go to war against Russia when they're facing insurmountably internal demographic and cultural destruction?

>>33813287
>The Scandinavians
>Posts a Finnish band
No.

>>33814348

secondly why the hell would you nuke a country and then send troops in? Unless you want radiation poisoning out the ass and the place to have no economic value.