What is this?

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Other side.

>>33812177
Looks like a jambiya (jam-bee-yah). When daggers were common, they were easily found in turkey, Iraq, and other parts of the Arabian peninsula. They were also commonly carried by Kurds

>>33812273
Huh. Neat. I'm guessing this one is pretty new. The blade is dull and some of the color has worn of to silver in small areas.

Now I just have to find someone to read the script. Think I know a guy for that.

>>33812177
Looks like some sort of dagger

>>33812273
Still pretty common to see in Yemen.

Does it always glow like that? If so, an angel might have dropped it. standard issue for angels who come to earth on business from heaven, all their shit glows like that.

>>33812433
Whelp. Looks like someone gave me a +1 holy weapon. /tg/ might be able to give me more info then.

>>33812177
Which is worse, making an old weapon functional again or fucking with its historical value by doing so? Let's say in this case it would be sharpening OP's dagger.

>>33812478
A weapon's soul aches for blood
There is no harm in sharpening an old blade, just don't go too far and create an abomination out of a functioning weapon

Looks like a Kirpan (sp?) which is a ceremonial dagger Sikhs wear/carry whenever possible. It's to signify their place as an "Army of God" and that all Sikhs are prepared to do violence, if need be, in the name of justice.

Mind you, these are the people who routinely fought off Muslims as a hobby back in the day and died in droves during the partition of India while defending villages against uprising and attacks by Muslims. Fair point, they also fought Hindus who were intent on fucking up Muslims though that was to a far lesser extent.

Pretty /k/ religion to be honest but I think it's a Sikh ceremonial dagger

>>33812273
Jambiyas were wider blades, and they tended to have a metal rib up the middle to reinforce them

I have one just like OP's, Soft brass, made in a backyard, purely meant as a tourist souvenir. Don't bother with any sharpening.

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>>33812177
It's a kindjal, I found one just like yours on some foreign website while looking for a good example to post. You could probably stab somebody with it but it's pretty much a decorative piece.

>>33812177
Having been to the middle east ive seen a few of them. Now im not saying its worthless, because there ARE real old daggers like that floating around. Buuut... the locals know foreigners go gaga for old shit and are incredibly good at making fake artifacts and selling them to white people.

In afghanistan they would try to sell you a khyber-pass 45-70 knockoff made last week that I wouldnt even try to fire for fear of an explosion, and this old guy would insist up and down it was a hundred years old.

Ditto in kuwait, there was a junk-shop owner who made bank selling fake reich-marks and nazi memorabilia. He also had piles of "antique" daggers and swords that he would insist were 600 years old. Special price! $100! (only because he likes you of course!)

>>33814745
Thanks anon.Since its decorative I'll just put it on my desk or something. I'll thank my mate and buy a functional dagger later.

I dunno what it is, but I can confirm it got a +3-9 light damage per hit and +1 light radius enchantation. I can say from the light effects in the pic and for having seen quite a few enchanted daggers in my time.

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>>33812177
>>33814745
>kindjal
No, a Kindjal is a caucasian dagger, what you got there (both of you) is some northern African souvenir dagger/letter openenr. Likely Morocco or Egypt and worth absolutely nothing.
>pic related, real Kindjal

>>33812177

It's decorative trinket, nothing more. The metal is very soft and would be unusable for a real weapon.

>t. fellow owner

>>33812177
>>33812273
>jambiya (jam-bee-yah).


It is a piece of tourist junk shamed like a jambiya. Hideous bring back from a sun holiday somewhere like Tunisia

>>33814745
>kindjal,

It is NOT a kindjal it is a tourist souvenir in the rough shape of a jambiya

>>33816738
>No, a Kindjal is a caucasian dagger, what you got there (both of you) is some northern African souvenir dagger/letter openenr. Likely Morocco or Egypt and worth absolutely nothing.

>>33816795
>It's decorative trinket, nothing more. The metal is very soft and would be unusable for a real weapon.


Agree. Own real Kindjal and jambiya and this is

>>33816974
>It is NOT a kindjal it is a tourist souvenir in the rough shape of a jambiya

^This

>>33814793
this. still a cool item. The real ones tend to be beat to hell, and not overly decorative.

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>>33818130
>this. still a cool item. The real ones tend to be beat to hell, and not overly decorative.

Untrue. Nello enamel is the hallmark of good kindjals, genuine jambiya have very functional blades but silverwork and decoration on the sheeth and handle are expected.

The shit out of Pakistan, mass produced north african tourist junk and pakki/indian crap is easy to spot compared to the real thing. The idem is sadly not cool. It is pure tourist trap junk. If you want the good quality items you are either buying via a specialist dealer with Saudi/Yemeni connections or from European dealers, particularly French and Spanish as they were the former north African colonial powers.

Good powder flasks can also be had but again not while on holiday in these pieces, where fake powder flasks are sold.

Pic related

Fine Moroccan Koumaya / Jambiya Dagger with Rhino Horn Hilt

OP the thing is that is not even a fake, it may as well be an ashtray as be called a weapon

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Caucasian kindjal / qama dagger, early 19th century, steel, silver, niello, gold, L. with sheath 21 in. (53.3 cm); L. without sheath 19 15/16 in. (50.6 cm); L. of blade 15 in. (38.1 cm); W. 1 5/16 in. (3.3 cm); D. 1 1/16 in. (2.7 cm); Wt.13.5 oz. (382.7 g); Wt. of sheath 8.5 oz. (240.9 g), Met Museum.

OP here. Now that I know exactly what I'm dealing with (basically a toy), I'm pretty sure I could find something in a similar style that's actually... real.

>>33819598
>OP here. Now that I know exactly what I'm dealing with (basically a toy), I'm pretty sure I could find something in a similar style that's actually... real.

Its more a decoration

They used to make decent stuff up to the 1950s and then realised that tourists to Morocco/Tunisia/Syria/Algeria/Lybia etc would in fact buy any old shite so they stopped bothering.

I guess the making out of brass maybe helps sell them as they can't be construed as anything more than decorative at all.

A real kindjal will be expensive, a Jambiya less so. They are interesting because they have many forms as you go from north Africa to the middle east and yemen. You should be able to find one from 1870-1950 fairly easily and as long as I is not rhino horn and silver it would be representative. They still make them and while a bit garish a modern one is probably button money. The older ones have quite well made blades though.

You want the koummya Jambiya

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Antique 19th century silver mounted Islamic, North African Maghrebi, “Arabic Moroccan dagger Jambiya Koummya”. A superb quality curved tapering double - edged steel blade cut with fullers, a wooden grip of characteristic waisted form, a silver ferrule, and a peacock's tail pommel, engraved in foliate in its solid silver scabbard, chiseled with expanded flower heads and scrolling foliage.
This dagger is better quality than average Moroccan koummyas with an extremely fine quality steel blade hardly ever seen in this type of jambiya.

REFERENCES: A similar Moroccan Jambiya is published in the book, “Islam: Les Armes Blanches de l'Atlantique à l'Indus” by Alain Jacob on page 9.
Please see the picture of the page attached to the listing.
Since the market is flooded by tourist souvenirs, reproductions of Moroccan dagger Koummyas with crudely made blades and mountings look the same as the authentic objects for inexperienced collectors, we would like to inform our clients that this is genuine authentic antique koummya jambiya and not a tourist souvenir.

eBay item number:

112317816570

Is a fair representation of a handmade tourist grade item. It is a fair representation and its 28 bucks

Anything 19th century or fine will be 100s if it looks to good to be true then it is, there are a lot of fakes out there. A decent 19th century one will be 300-1000

A lot of the 40-200 price range are actually tourist GI bring backs from north Africa in WW2 and after but *some* of them are not awful

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it is a blade of sacrifice , some one hates you.
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