M1911 vs Glock 17 go

Glock is lighter weight, more reliable, more capacity and cheaper.

Hard choice right ?

XD

>>33804929
Neither, both are good.

>>33804942
WTF I hate 1911's now

>>33804942
WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS

>>33804982
1911s are fun but for practicality and objective usefulness Glock dominates them.

>>33804929
Why are we comparing an entire brand name to an individual gun?

> comparing one gun made by many companies to a gun company

the 1911 has much higher damage, but the glock has a higher clip capacity and critical hit ratio.

always found the 17 kind of pointless. If i want a full sized 9mm handgun weight is the least of my concerns. I want something that's ergonomic and has a nice trigger and nice sights, none of which glocks have. I'd only buy a full sized glock in .40, .45 or 10mm. otherwise I'd go with a Sig or a Beretta. Yeah I know I could rice out a glock but it ends up costing more to do so then just getting a gun with 3 dot sights and a not shitty trigger.

1911 guns are the most unergonomic guns ever designed. It's like holding onto the side of a picture frame. Totally impractical.

>>33804942
Don't forget more options in terms of calibers and magazines, as well as a metric shit ton more aftermarket parts.

1911's are reliable,beautiful,single stacked for lighter frame and have a powerful round.

Glock 19's are accurate,have a larger capacity,more modern and cheaper.

It really just depends on what gun you need for the job. A tactical infiltration will use a Glock 19 but home defense a 1911. There's really no need to compare these guns since they both serve their own purpose.

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>>33805171
>I can't hold handguns because I have small hands the post

>>33805223
Different guy but I have big hands and the 1911 feels like shit to me, I don't get why people love it so much, the grip-safety is superfluous, the slide release is tiny

>>33804929
M1911

+easily can be field stripped with no tools involved
+plenty of aftermarket parts
+iconic
+feels good in the hand
+fairly cheap
-expensive if it's a specialty item
-generally single stack
-the ones that are double stack tend to be pricier than double stack Glocks
-not exactly fun to CC
-slide stop on the left side
+-heavy, sufficient for smacking someone over the head
+-exposed hammer

Glock

+cheap
+huge aftermarket parts and guns
+generally double stack
+can come in double stack
+generally more reliable
-plastic
-uncomfortable at times
-kinda ugly
+-light
+-hammerless

Here's Hickok45's opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly5UnR7pPtk

>>33804942
From a purely tactical stand point, glock wins. The only real advantage the 1911 has is a larger caliber. However, the 1911 is a proven platform, and depending who you ask, looks better.

>>33805282
Why do people keep posting Hickock like he's some arbiter of objective truth? He has been objectively wrong on at least one occasion I can think of off the top of my head and he doesn't even legitimately review firearms.

>>33805270
The 1911 safety feels just about right for me.

The slide release isn't so much tiny as it is so forward that you have to squeeze your hand into the grip to release the slide. It wears on your hand (thumb muscles especially) unless you can shoot left handed or ambidextrously.

>>33805270

>grip safety is superflous
>trigger safey isnt

Glockfags please.

>>33805293
The same reason we use Ian for historical stuff. He's kind of the universal grandpa who'll tell you stories, and is somewhat comfy.

He's also pretty tall, if that helps any.

>>33805270

Also, glocks have the ergonomics of a plastic 2X4. The 1911 is at least somewhat refined and customizable in terms of grip panels, backstraps, etc.

>>33805324
Trigger safety is just a drop safety.

>>33805331
Ian is actually pretty knowledgeable on historical guns though.

>>33805343
The trigger safe blocks the hammer from moving with sufficiently. Stop shitposting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJhv0ttFXs4

>>33805392
Why did you link me this retard? All I said was the Glock trigger safety is a drop safety.

>>33805337
>>33805324
I never defended the Glock or said it was amazing, I dislike it's trigger a lot. I don't really like the trigger safety they do, but it's a viable way to have a safety.

I just feel that having more than one safety is just superfluous, grip safeties are for open bolt subguns.

>>33804929
A glock has never shot down a plane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_J._Baggett

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>>33805413
In retrospect, I just realized how stupid my post was.

>>33805034
He clearly said glock 17

I have freakishly large hands, so the 1911 is my choice.

>>33805458
It takes a real man to admit he was wrong on a nameless Korean art forum

>>33804929
1911 is an antiquated design. glock is objectively better.

good job with you graphic though. sorry there is no real debate here.

If only there were a high capacity 9mm with a safety and hammer.

Then we could stop having this debate forever.

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>>33805502
Maybe?

>>33804929

This thread again?
It'll likely not come to a decisive conclusion, just like Sega Genesis vs SNES, because there's fanboyism on both sides (among other things, lack of experience and personal preferences included). Both guns have their upsides and drawbacks, just depends on what you want/need.

>>33805489
>1911 is an antiquated design
Explain.

>>33805518
There are like 20 games maybe for the genesis that you need to play
Glock is better than a 1911, but that doesnt mean there arent much better guns than it

The fact we're having this discussion 106 years after the invention of the 1911 means the 1911 wins

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>>33805484
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but thanks anyhow.

But take this link as a sigh of gratitude.
imgur com/a/ZD4mf

>>33805619
Fuck that photo set was hot

>>33805510
Maybe.

>>33805083
>clip
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>33805673
>>33805619
Does anyone have a link?

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>>33805723

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>>33805619
good lord.

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>>33805547
really, does this need an explanation?

>>33805806
Yes, explain your statement. i'd be interested to hear why.

>>33805836
Not that anon but here i'll help
>fullsize pistol
>poor ergonomics
>Holds 7 rounds
There you go

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>>33805836

>an·ti·quat·ed
ˈan(t)əˌkwādəd/
adjective
adjective: antiquated

old-fashioned or outdated.

we are all aware of the, "quirks" of the aging 1911 platform, and that you have to put about $100 worth of perts and gunsmitithing into an original GI style gun in order for it to run fast and reliable like a modern pistol. they are typically only available in .45, and special snowflake calibers that reduce the reliability. they are heavy. they have shitty sights. can you even get night sights? the list goes on. don't get me wrong, i love the history, and the form factor as much as the next red-blooded american, but the just cannot compete with a modern pistol in a practical sense.

>>33804929
92fs

:^)

>>33804942
>cheaper
That depends on what 1911 you get.

>Wants a gun that explodes in hand
>Needs 13+ rounds to hit a target
>Shitty trigger safety
>Wants tacticool


Tell me again, Why glock?

>>33805968
Pretty much only 1911s consistently cheaper than a Glock would be something like RIA.

>>33804942

>Glock is lighter weight,
More recoil

>more reliable,
I can post plenty of videos of 1911s beating Glocks in reliability tests

>more capacity
Double stack 1911s exist, and have more capacity than Glocks

>and cheaper.
Incorrect

>>33805619
thank you for your cervix

>>33805990
>double stack 1911's exist
you must me new

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>>33805970
this bait is bad, and you should feel bad for posting it.

>>33805990
>Reliability tests

1911s are not going to last the round count a Glock will without way more spring maintenance and other issues.

>Cheaper
>Incorrect

Bullshit. No good reliable 1911 will be as cheap as a Glock.

>>33805952

Not sure if you're trolling, or really dumb.
There's some major overlap in the two categories in this subject.
Please reply, so I can more accurately gauge which one it is.

>>33805214
1911s are reliable but honestly I wouldn't say they're more reliable than a glock.

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Just get both.

>>33806049

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJlinv3XAhI

scroll through the comments a bit, and you can find some legendarily buttblasted glockfags

>>33805682
It fits 18+1rds flush nigga.
Even an old Smith & Wesson 5900 series 9mm can fit 17+1rds flush.

>>33806076
Is that the miispec 1911?

>>33806107
Yeah it's the 1911-A1 spec.

>>33806004
>what is Para Ordnance?
>what is SVI?
>what is RIA?

>>33806124
>what is a hi power

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>>33806141
>13+1
>magazine disconnect

>>33806141
with a shitty grip safety and worse ergonomics*

>>33806141

A gun vaguely related to what JMB designed to get around 1911 patents.

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>>33806120
Nice! I have the same one. I just bought another 1911 and hope the compare the two at the range tomorrow.

Still I enjoy the glock but I personally like the heaviness of the 1911.

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>>33806157
>magazine disconnect is just a plunger with a spring that can be easily removed

>>33806157
see
>>33806165
Grip safety is complete cancer, slide release is as well. Magazine disconnect is removed more easily than your sisters virginity
>>33806166
>jmb designed to get around patents he owned
Ok buddy boy.

>>33806180

>jmb designed to get around patents he owned

I guess you didn't know that Colt owned the rights to it.
How embarrassing.

>>33806180
>>33806173
I notice you don't address the low capacity.

>>33806044
what can i even say? you are obv an idiot.

>>33806180
JMB didn't own the patents, he sold them to Colt and they developed the 1911 we know today.

>>33806198

I'm still not sure.
You seem mad, but it might just be further bait.

>>33806192
>guy who argues for 1911
>cries about low capacity of a 13+1 gun
Kek
>>33806190
>>33806201
https://www.google.com/patents/US984519

Hmm.

Sure smells like fudd.

>>33806172
Yeah there's just something about the weight of an all metal gun, feels more dependable. Nice Colt, i'm looking to replace my mainspring housing with one that's similar to that. The curve on the A1 is a bit much for me.

>>33804929
>pistol designed/adopted in 1911
>pistol designed/adopted in 1980's

Hmm I wonder which weapon has the advantage of developmental progress.

Be better to compare period correct weapons, i.e. "1911vsP-08" or "G17vs92FS"

>>33806225

Do you actually think that google link in any way contradicts anything we told you, or somehow proves your point?
Just go back to google and looks it up if you want. JMB sold the rights to Colt, and had to work around the 1911 patents when making the hi power. It's a well documented fact, that you should easily be able to find.

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>it's another /k/ pretends to be arfcom thread

>>33806225
>>guy who argues for 1911
You sure are making some hot assumptions here.

>>33806234

The only "disadvantage" the 1911 has is being overbuilt due to metalworking and hardening processes being shit at the time.

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>>33806234
Tee-hee.

>>33806253
Colt had the rights to produce it for the military, fudd.
Not the patent.
>>33806266
>we are on the same side dumbo
Anyone who carries anything less than 17+1 in a fullsize is either a pussy or retarded.

>>33806270
:O
But it's newer, so it has to be better!!!

>>33806274

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power

>FN commissioned John Browning to design a new military sidearm conforming to this specification. Browning had previously sold the rights to his successful M1911 U.S. Army automatic pistol to Colt's Patent Firearms, and was therefore forced to design an entirely new pistol while working around the M1911 patents. Browning built two different prototypes for the project in Utah and filed the patent for this pistol in the United States on June 28, 1923, granted on February 22, 1927.[5][6]

>>33806292
>Still an outdated shitty pistol with 7+1 poor ergonomics and a pointless grip safety

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>>33806192
>13+1 is low capacity

>>33806311

Thanks for admitting defeat and saying that you were wrong and I was right.
Enjoy the rest of your night being mad at how wrong you were.

>>33804929
1911 has a better grip but worse sights browning high power is better than either

>>33806321
>being wrong that the 1911 is a 7+1 terrible ergonomics terrible grip pointless grip safety gun
I'm not though, you just picked some random fact of fuddlore that no one cares about that I didn't know about and presumed that because I didn't know about it that somehow makes the 1911 not a piece of shit compared to modern handguns.

>>33805990
>Glock 17 is lighter so it has more recoil than a 1911

>>33805990
>1911 has lighter recoil than a 17 because weight
>what is bore axis
>what is lighter round

Sad you've never shot a G17 desu.

>>33806362
The glock has a snappier recoil imo. Cycles faster so it's harder to compensate for it.
You can develop a flinch shooting the 1911 tho.

>>33806390
Glocks are one of the least snappy guns, sure you didn't fire a hi-point?

>>33806479
I'm sure, maybe snappy isn't the right word for it?

>>33806479
I found the Daewoo DP-51 more pleasant to shoot than a Glock 19.

Wouldn't shell out cash for either.

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>>33806274
Keep desperately throwing out assumptions, my preferred carry is a 5906 with MecGar mags.

>>33806835
>5906
>ok
I carry a M&P9 FS(now a 2.0) if you care at all.