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Bigger is better edition.

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>>33749755
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>>33794089
Anybody know a good heavy use bowie knife?
Im thinking of getting the svord von tempsky
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>>33794170
naw get this
>https://www.amazon.com/Condor-Knife-Moonshiner-Handle-Sheath/dp/B00I5T2IJE/ref=pd_sbs_200_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00I5T2IJE&pd_rd_r=7YX8F9025JWBYWQTGMDP&pd_rd_w=T07qJ&pd_rd_wg=RtZcp&psc=1&refRID=7YX8F9025JWBYWQTGMDPs
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>>33794170
The boker arbolito is a solid knife. Both the small and huge version.
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I love American fighters. They're pure sex.
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>>33794210
The Hudson Bay is way better.
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>>33794438
>Hudson Bay
hnnnnggggggggggggg
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>>33794438
is this a good knife how much abuse can it take??
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Why do I find this type of edge cuts so well >>33794414
But this type, not so much ? >>33794089
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>>33794089
Hey /k/nife general, i'm looking to get a good bowie knife, but i've been out of the loop for three years. What is the best bowie for $150 and under?
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>>33794988
It's the way you cut.
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>>33795711
To clarify, You typically cut whatever it is by sliding your knife all the way across it, the short curve upwards on the Op's knife doesn't play well with this style of cutting.
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>>33794601

It's meh. Some guy on /out/ broke his batoning some wood.
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>>33795830
do you recommended another knife that is similar but stronger for the price?
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>>33795732
is there a video of this knife in action?
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>>33795732
is that a fucking folding bowie
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>>33795830
>batoning
There's your problem.
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>>33795845

I'd still go for it and get it. I had it and used it for lighter bushcrafting and I loved it. Ended up gifting it to a friend who didn't have a knife. If you were to baton with it, depending what wood it was, I'd only do stuff like 3 to 4 inches thick, any thing else I'll use a small hatchet.

I like Condit Hudson bay, esee 5, bk5, bk9, esee Junglas (that's more of a short sword, with like a 11 ish inch blade)

Hell, even the bigger schrades have not been that bad, you can get a pretty big hefty ones for cheapish.
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>>33795909
You must be new. Welcome.
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>>33795944

Nothing wrong with batoning if done right. People just get carried away with it, try doing it on pieces of wood that is to knotted or to thick. Or using a knife that doesn't have the tang strength needed for that.
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>>33795985
>>33796048
i just want a knife that is big n thick that wont break for less than 100 shekels

Ontario Knife 6526

Hudson

or

ese
wat do
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>>33796108
Old Hickory butcher's knife
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>>33795903
Not this one, but same action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vIA2j3IRhg

>>33795909
Yes
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>>33795732
>pakistan
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>>33796108

Esee izula and a hatchet. Now you got all your bases covered.
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>>33796208
and?
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Guyz. Hay guyz.

I'm seriously tempted to pick up a Wicked Edge soon sometime. It's so much money but I want to learn and be able to give all my knives better than factory edges. Those mirror edges that cut hair that I see. I thought my factory edges were sharp, and my ceramic honing rod/strop was keeping them sharp, but I am missing out on another level.

Which one should I get? I'm thinking about getting a basic one and then getting the 1000+ grit stones that come in the expensive ones separately. I want that mirror edge.
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>>33796108
Lurk on the Himalayan Imports subforum for an AK bowie. They occasionally have some for $100 + shipping.

I had one and it was ridiculously overbuilt. It was nearly half an inch thick and almost 2 pounds. I don't think I could have broken it without intentionally trying to, and even then I'm not sure if it would break.
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>>33796268
I think you need to stop being an autist who turns basic tool maintenance into an overblown ritual.
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>>33796292

Don't judge my hobbies. I like my sharp knives.
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>>33796335
Well have fun turning that disgusting BS edge into a recurve.
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>>33796215
poo
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>>33796335
>folding knife
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>>33796557
I don't remember saying it wasn't
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>>33794089
keyboard warriors better watch out
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My most recent knife acquisition. Condor Garuda. I love the fuck out of this knife.
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Does anyone in here like Benchmade?
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>>33796273
>Himalayan Imports
ok well how about the Kukri Knife they make? found one on ebay for 30 bucks
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Is there irony in Germany making FS daggers?
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>>33797227
>ok well how about the Kukri Knife they make
75% of what they make are kukris. You'll have to be more specific.

>>33795664
Not many good options for $150. I'd go with the Svord bowie.
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>>33797157
i had a minigrip (gave it away to a good friend) and currently have a 531 which I carry more often than not. Looking for a reason to pull the trigger on a 940 but I've heard they're releasing a smaller version of the crooked river so I'm also tempted to wait for that.
I have a few life things that need paying for and it hurts to not have money for hobbies..
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>>33796335
I started with a lansky system and chose to pick up some decent whetstones instead ($200 worth) and after taking knives to them five or six times i got the hang of it. If you're willing to learn I'd pick up some stones, even a cheap king combo to start. It's faster, more satisfying, and you're not putting down nearly as much money. In about 15 minutes i brought a dull opinel to 6000 grit and stropped such that it can split hairs at a fraction of the cost of that system.

needless to say the wicked edge will give you the same results every time and requires no thinking so it's no surprise why they're so well reviewed.
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>Smith & Wesson 1st Response SW911B M.A.G.I.C. Assisted Opening Liner Lock Folding Knife & Rescue Tool

Just got it. Not super impressed. Feels flimsy.

>tfw Jake Gyllehall calls it a "Spyderco Tactical knife in End of Watch
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>>33794170
the Western W49 I have is pretty nice.
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>>33797157
I found pic related on the floor at my work, sent it to the company to have the blade replaced, got the knife back and only had to pay shipping. It's my daily carry now.
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>>33798639
Fucking nice man! You scored big time!
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>>33798332
I bought a bunch of those s&w knives and they're pretty much all like that. I like a lot of their guns but they make some shit knives.
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>>33797157
>fifth knife from the left is a boker kalashnikov plus
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>>33797803
ok i dont know... can you please sugest me a big and strong knife that is less than 100 bucks and make it unbreakable... prefer us or eu models...
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>>33798680
Good eye man. You're the only one that spotted it
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>>33796793
>fat baby hand with autistic bracelet.
Typical knife enthusiast.
>>33797038
>cheap ass chink velcro holster
I fucking hate it when decent knoifs have shittiest holsters possible. Not just because of the looks, but having a velcro holster is asking to loose the tool.
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>>33798277
Thanks. Yeah the ease and consistency are what makes me think it's well worth the price. I want to get into stones like you did eventually but still want something that will give the same results without worrying about fucking up some of my 100-1000 dollar knives.
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>>33798668
Thanks m8, I really dig it. I've always carried around old fashioned Case knives but my benchmade hunt has definitely converted me
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i am looking for a strong knife that can chop; and be a good knife that is super strong help me?
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>>33797463
That is not an FS (Fairbairn-Sykes) dagger. It's the improved AF (Applegate-Fairbairn) dagger.
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>>33798770
I recognize that coating anywhere.

Too bad the 35 dollar S30v autos are illegal in california.

Nice collection btw.
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Does CRKT have any good models? All of their stuff looks ugly as sin and is produced overseas...
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>>33799060
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Would I be set with a junglas and an esee 4 or is that too much? I dig big knives
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>>33795944
>hasn't been /out/
there's your problem.
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>>33800391
Largely depends on what you're doing with them. I'm picking up an esee 4 as a back up camp knife to my bravo 1 lt soon as payday rolls around.
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Opinions on buck knives?
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>>33798699
Just get an Ontario SP10, m8. It's a big slab of steel for under $100, you won't regret it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1RgAc-vxaA

I can't wait for this to be finished
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>>33802123
overpriced. but that could be said for Sog, Gerber and Tops.
you're buying the brand name
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I flipping love this thing. First flipper.
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>>33802123
Great knives, the Bantam is huge value, ever better than the KaBar Dozier. The plus to the Buck is that if you use it a lot, it sharpens extremely fast, extremely easily, and it's back in action. The aus8 Dozier, when it gets full, you're going to spend a lot more time trying to get it sharp again. I'm perfectly fine with Bucks 420hc or whatever it is. Some people think it's garbage, but those are mostly knife collectors with white collar jobs and Hard Use is cutting a package from Amazon
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Are these any good or are they just a meme? my local Academy Sports & Outdoors® has them on sale
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How hard would it be to make some jigs that replicate a Wicked Edge kit? Price blows my mind, its a vice with a couple clamps and rods.
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>>33803075
How much?
Get 3 Moras instead.
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>>33803075
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>>33794089
That's quite literally the first result for "pioneer saber m53" on the Internet. Sauce?
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>>33802123
I've had Buck folders for years and never been let down yet.
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>>33803075
hot garbage
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>>33803611
I think I got it off some auction site a while ago. I don't even know if the M53 means anything, it was just part of the filename.
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What was the point of a seax?
I don't understand why someone would make a shitty design for years and years when a few minor improvements that nobody did would of just made it all around better.
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>>33803819
>What was the point of a seax?
The end opposite of the handle.
>design works for hundreds of years
>shitty
What did he mean by this?
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>>33796268
Great sharpening system
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>>33803819
They're not quite all the same.
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>>33803819
Cheap effective killing weapon, requiring little training that's suited for primitive euro tribes from those centuries. Full on war weapons are not cheap, require lots of training, and not easy to carry around when they're not being used.

It's like, why were flintlock pistols around When muskets were all around superior
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>>33803011
What size is that? There's like 5 similar ones right?
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>>33804143
>require lots of training

While my dabbling around in HEMA, kendo and whatnot may not be terribly exhaustive, it's at least something, and base don that I don't see how a common knife, large or not, would be any easier to use than a proper sword, a spear, or some other "weapon of war". Axes might be a bit less forgiving, but I haven't tried anything such at all, so heck knows.

As for flintlock pistols, those could be proper weapons of war too, for the cavalry.

The seax is a family of blades covering a range of sizes and uses, from everyday working knives to swords with no purpose but murdering your fellow man.
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My svord boner, this is what I carry innawoods and it would be the knife I would take if I could only take 1 knife for whatever reason. If you get a svord first thing you should do is sand off the handle coating and oil it otherwise you will get hotspots and blisters.
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>>33804407
>svord boner
had a giggle
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>>33804229
You think a sword is equally as easy to fight someone as a large dagger or knife?
I don't want to see you post anymore. Come at me with a claymore and I would bet my life I could stop your weak untrained scrawny ass and jab a Texas Toothpick in your neck, or easily turn a big sword against you. Sword gives a lot of leverage to counter against
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>>33804462
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>>33804596
I will fuck your mouth hole
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I see most of you people have multiple knives. Do you have an absolute favorite? I'd like to have a solid EDC. Easy to clip on, discreet, lightweight, easy to open, sharp. Not picky. It seems people buy knife after knife and nothing perfect for their needs. Need to upgrade from peasant meme knife
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>>33804602
You couldn't afford it.
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>>33804624
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>>33804624
Spyderco Endura. Been carrying it for the better part of a decade now and I just haven't found anything else that's as fucking handy.
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>>33803841
>>What was the point of a seax?
They didn't use it for stabbing though. It had no hand guard for stabbing. It's like a western version of a katana but shittier in every way.
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>>33803952
Sweet. The blade type might differ a bit but werent handles practical all the same sort of like that one country still does it in modern times. I don't know why the name is slipping me but they all have the same type of handle but someone richer just uses nicer material but the design still probably sucks. Yemen maybe? I know it's not sihks since they tend to go for functional blades from what I heard.
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>>33796709
Opinel bro!
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>>33805133

Do you think there was some kind of martial doctrine for peasants using large blades? Get real!

The seax would have been used in whatever way the situation presented just as a knife is used today if your trying to kill somebody. You can slash with a dagger and stab with a machete, do you think in a fight you are going to hesitate and say "hurdurhur I cant slash with this dirk". The seax is very similar to a bowie shape... the bowie shape as you know it predates the sandbar fight by many years so large clip point/abrupt drop point knives nearly identical to the seax are continuously used and refined in design even today.
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>>33794438
I used mine to chop some thin trees, and chipped the blade. It's meh but for the most part it's a good chopper.
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>>33804624
Zt0450. Most fun you'll ever get out of a knife: titanium framelock with stainles steel insert, ballbearings, s35vn steel, aftermarket options for pocketclip, hardware, scales etc. + awesome customer service (the one on the bottom)
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>>33804407
looks like a kitchen knife DESU. pic related or my TOPS BOB would be my choice for a 1 knife
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>>33805272
>Do you think there was some kind of martial doctrine for peasants using large blades? Get real!
No. I kind of figured it was for the lowest class peasants with no doctrine about fighting. Basically a retard, and only a fucking idiot would go for one and argue about them being useful since there is no doctrine.
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>>33805548
>No.
Actually I meant, Yes.
Yes. a stupid sharp blade. Okay it was like a bowie sure. Let's talk about bowies and not retard peasants and their stupid shape blade they didn't use like a bowie knife.
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>>33805272
Please tell me all about those bowie knife fights the seax was in.
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>>33794089
>Bigger is better edition

Well I find my self posting my this knife too often
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>>33796268
If you are still here, let's have a talk... I've been using mine for 4 years.

Spend as much as you can possibly afford up front.

You, if you are anything like me, will end up with a complete (and then some) set up, and the more you buy upfront, the less you pay.

But if you can't buy like the Gen 3 pro ($900 somthing) up front, at lest save up for the Pro Pack 2 ($450ish).
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>>33806011

I'm still here. Fuck dude. $900 I can do, but that is an awefully lot of money towads a Rockstead Tei, the next "nice" knife I want to buy.

$450 still hurts, but that seems to be well worth what it does from my research. If I were to get the Pro Pack 2 and wanted to spend some extra $$$ to get some extra sharpness what would you recommend first?

>>33806055

Fucking loving my 940-1 as my EDC. The weight, blade size and action make it perfect if you aren't doing anything crazy, otherwise I take my S110V PM2.

I love the PM2 and had to get the 940-1 after holding it and feeling the lightness of it and wanted to compare the two, as they are always two sides arguing which one is better. To me you need to have both. They are different enough.

>pic related, my benchmades
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>>33806286
It's almost half an ounce lighter than the Spyderco Manix 2 lightweight, which doesn't even have a steel liner. It's just a beautiful peice of hardware. For all the cardboard cutting and letter opening I do it's all I need, and I get to enjoy it every time I use it.

I'm also looking for a guided sharpener. Don't know what to get.
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>>33805133
>They didn't use it for stabbing though. It had no hand guard for stabbing
Do you think something needs a hand guard to be able to stab?
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>>33805595

The "bowie" knife by name didnt exist until the sandbar fight. Their were large frontier knives with clip points and drop points that were what we would call a bowie today. You think Resin Bowie invented that style of knife for his brother? There are knives older than the sandbar fight that look like modern clip point bowies and Jim Bowies knife did not look like that. No, its a fucking seax and it never went away it was just brought back into promenence by a catchy name change and embelishment. Large knives in the anglosphere have always been around and always will be. You fucking knife geeks have to overanalyse and add folklore and mysticism around a tool dont you? Fucking queercunts.
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What does /k/ think of my new knifeu?
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>>33796268
You don't need a guided system to get extremely sharp edges, as freehanding can obtain results just as sharp.

Instead, the questions you need to consider in choosing between purchasing a guided system and learning to freehand are whether you would rather spend the time to learn up-front and then be able to sharpen individual knives quickly, or not have as much of an up-front learning curve but take longer to sharpen each knife.

You also need to consider whether you are willing to spend the money on a guided system.

That being said, I would recommend an Edge Pro Apex type system over the Wicked Edge type systems if you do decide to go for guided.
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>>33806911

Nice seax.
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>>33803245
>whimpering
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>>33806286
Yeah I understand, Rockstead is an awesome company, I dream of having one some day to.

The Pro pack 2 is solid, my only gripe is, it could be a bit cheaper if they gave you the Paper stone base option.

Also you WANT the gen 3 jaws, it's a night and day difference, it saved me like 5 min per knife when I up graded. Unfortunately it's a $200 upgrade plus $70 if you want the .25" adapter.

For reference I started with a Pro Pack 1, and now am almost up to the Pro Pack 3, minus some of the fancy stuff (like the granite base), the low angle adapter (not my thing), a few of the stones (I'm fine with a high mirror polish for now), and the carrying case (going to buy one soon).
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>>33806927
> can obtain results just as sharp
I agree with most of what you said, but in my experience, you are looking at many years of decently intensive free hand to get the results I can get with my WE after a year or two of practice. I'm still not close to my WE with my free hand, even at higher grits (8,000), I can not get a hair whittling edge with out microbeveling yet. And I started free hand 12 years ago, but to be fair I stopped 4 years ago when I got my WE, and only started it in a more disciplined way about half a year ago.

Regardless the method, sharpening in general takes a lot of time and experimentation to fully grasp and become experienced at, in practice.
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Any opinions on on wetstone wheel systems? I kind want one, because of how much more versatile and fast they are than just freehand or the WE, but haven't actually been able to find someone who has one.

>>33796268
Email the owner if you're prior service or LE for possible 30% off.
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>>33807327

So if I am reading this right, the Gen 3 jaws are available only in the $850 version?

Fuck. Yeah I might just dive in and go all out on it. Probably will wait until end of summer once I have added to my disposable income quite a bit.
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>>33806927
>>33806286
Oh and I should mention one thing.

>to sharpen individual knives quickly

This is true. Most guided systems go for precision over speed.

On my WE, a touch up is like 5-10 minutes (+5 if gen 1 jaw), general resharpening of a knife I've done before is like 10-15. And a full repofile can take from 20 minutes to hours depending on the steel and profile. But to be fair profile time is not much different from free hand.

There is an exception though. The Tormek, particularly the T8. It is easily as fast, if not much faster than free hand. And it will gain similar results to what an experienced free hand sharpener can yield in that 5-10 or so minutes.

It's on my list, because that kind of work flow and quality level actually makes a lot more sense for the kind of customers I have. It would pay for it's self with in a year, if not sooner, because I could take on way more customers.
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>>33806456
Yeah. Mostly.
>>33806829
Resin? Did he make up his own name or did his parents find that somewhere in the bible?
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>>33807466
They have a $550ish version with it, but lacking a lot of the stones. It may be worth it to go for that.

You are going to want the 100-1,000 diamond, first level of ceramic, and the 5 and 3.5 micron strops at lest to get a good mirror edge.

The .25 adapter, idk if it comes with it, if you have some thicker knives. If you do have thicker knives, the 50-80 stones are nice, but be careful with them, they leave deep cuts, and may take more than that sharpening to fully remove the scratches from the grind to bevel.
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>>33807497

Have you used the Tormek? If so, how would you rate it for things like axes, and tool sharpening?
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>>33807466
I got to go now, I'll be around tomorrow or so, more than willing to answer any questions I can. These kinds of things are big investments and are worth a lot of research.

>>33807579
No, I've never handled one in person, but I've talked with a few owners.

I think they have a bunch of jigs that will accommodate larger things like axe heads. One of the reasons I'm looking into it, other than fast kitchen knife sharpening for all my chef clients, is tool sharpening. I want something a bit more precise than my 1x30 beltsander, and a bit less worry for over heating. For large things, like axes (big enough to not worry about heat treat if comfortable to touch), I would sharpen on the Tormex and then blend the bevel with the sander for the convex advantage.
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>>33807547

The thickest knife I have is a Cold Steel Oyabun. Not quite a 1/4"

I want that mirror edge, so I want those strops. If I don't do thick knives do I need that $200 jaw like you said?

I am able to keep my knives pretty sharp between getting them sharpened by a guy, ceramic honing rod and a strop + compound. They will easily go through phonebook paper with a pushcut, my good ones, but they will not whittle hair or have that mirror polish. I guess what I am trying to say is that I probably won't be using the coarse stones much. I will be taking sharp knives into really sharp knives the most.
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>>33797157
That's the most boring BM collection I've ever seen
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>>33798677
>but they make
It's pure chinesium. Only the branding is S&W.
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>>33808048
Why do you say that?
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>>33796268
youre not learning to sharpen on those things. you want to really learn, go freehand. its way cheaper and just as effective
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>>33797157
not anymore since 2 out of my 3 BM's broke. bad!
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>>33804624
This.
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A friend wanted a good cheap knife, got him this for 13,80€.

I can't think of anything better for that price.
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>>33804624
izula.
ive bought many knives in the last 3 years, but i am still going back to the izula after a while everytime.
still my favorite edc blade.
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>>33805973
>skyline
>paramilitary?
>victorinox
good taste
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>>33809782
i carry that daily, a spartan if im not wrong, it was a gift given to me a while back, blade is great and being a uk fag it doesnt scare people and its legal.
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>>33805548
>only a fucking idiot would go for one and argue about them being useful since there is no doctrine
>>33805562
>Let's talk about bowies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlV_5_d75Vo
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>>33804624
endura 4 or paramilitary2. both are solid, one fits into other price ranges better than others, but the additional money for the pm2 gets you a beefier knife with a stronger steel, not to discount vg10 or the midback lock. both are excellent and FFG makes for an excellent slicer even when its getting dull.

>>33807400
i dont disagree with most of what you are saying, but learning to freehand to a mirror/razor edge isn't something that takes years on years of practice. using a decent grit waterstone and a strop can achieve excellent results in a reasonable amount of time. then again it does depend on steel to an extent.
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>>33809782
>knives
>bottle openers that are also screwdrivers
>corkscrew
>that marlin spike thing that actually picks cheap locks like on MacGyver
ya did good anon
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>>33799331
Ironic
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new beauty
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>>33812142
boker makes some damn pretty knives. fan of the vox rhino. wish they made a bit more of a high end version than just the stag handle.
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>>33803052
This guys on the right track
I've got a buck quickfire and I've taken it on the job for construction, depending on the day I did notice it get duller, but only once was it painfully dull (throughout an entire two story house) you just have to remember that at the end of the day, to hit that bitch on stone, I used a cheap 600 grit a lot.
My Benchmade cpm m4 would have lasted a lot longer in steel, but eventually I'll have to sharpen that too. You're also less afraid with the cheap buck hah


On another note, the plastic handle on the quickfire feels fine, but it's cracked in one spot and chipped in the other. Just out of the blue, still works but not as pretty.. That said, a work horse doesn't have to be pretty.
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>>33803245
>but mom
Idk why in Fuck I thought it was someone's wife
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Any recommendations for a bayonet?
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>>33803245
Oh man that's a laugh riot from the moment you see the knife snap.

>>33812359
For what exactly? If you're looking for something modern that will attach to a gun that you likely own then an M7 is probably a good option.
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>>33812498
Something of decent length and strength that I can put on my belt and use innawoods or in theoretical close combat

I don't own a modern gun btw, t. yuropoor
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>>33812544
most yuropoor countries have some tight laws against knives without a purpose. if you have a specific gun as a yurpoor, go for a byonet for that gun, if you just need a woods knife, go for a mora, an ontario or something of that nature.

moras are usually cheap anywhere, ontarios are a less expesnive esee, esee have a retard proof warranty. becker makes some good ones.

if your hooked on getting a bayo, go m7 or enfield.
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>>33812569
> if you have a specific gun as a yurpoor, go for a byonet for that gun

I have a hawken great plains rifle for shtf purposes, unfortunately there are no bayonets around for it

Thanks for the advice, M7 looks nice but a bit short
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>>33812544
>Something of decent length and strength that I can put on my belt and use innawoods or in theoretical close combat

Then you don't want a bayonet. Bayonets in general are shit utility knives.

What's your budget and is there any kind of blade type/length restriction where you live?
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>>33812625
>hawkens great plains rifle

dude, forget my other recommendations, get a damn cavalry saber.

if the m7 is a bit small, look up becker, more specifically the bkt 9 and bkt 7.
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>>33812691
Hm you have a point there

My budget is up to 100€ and the length restriction for carrying is 12cm
>>33812711
Fucking hell I just checked the length and ithe blade is actually even too big to carry it legally wtf it looks really small

Fuck my country

Ty man, already have a saber though kek
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>>33812754
with the m7 it looks smaller due to the length of the handle

>12cm

go for a mora for cheap and reliable innawoods.

boker also has the arbolito line which works as well as the nessimi and the trigonaut.

esee has the 4 and the izula, and i honestly forget what the hell ontario's equivalent is called, but it exists.
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>>33812754
spyderco also makes a few, as do most knife companies, but i don't know the equivalent value in eurobucks as an american.
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>>33812814
>>33812826
Thanks a lot guys!
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>>33812754
>12cm
>4.7"

God damn.

I suppose pic related or a Mora or an Ontario M2.

>>33812814
>arbolito

Seconding this and the ESEEs.
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>>33812861
Thanks man!

Yeah the arbolito looks good, will probably go with that one
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>>33803245
this is fake and gay
whenever i baton my knife into a log of wood with my hatchet this never happens
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>>33813646
you say this like the bear grylls knives/some gerbers don't have issues.
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>>33811442
I like his videos but if there is no evidence a thing was used a specific way when it was a very prolific item it's pretty safe to say people didn't use it. Even if it seems very obvious and evident to us modern people. If there is no manuals, writings, or tapestries that's a lot of conjecture. Just because we can do it doesn't mean people use to.
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>>33813701
What are you buying some katanas or something that it breaks if you hit it with an axe? I hit mine with axes all the time. Why would you even buy a knife if you couldn't hit it with an axe? If I'm out in the woods and NEED some wood I'm sure as fuck going to baton that axe over my knife to get it if I have to. I'm not playing around when it comes to survival I'm going to do what I gotta do.
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>>33813779
not too sure what you're going off about, but i don't buy an outdoor/woodsman knife that i cant baton with, which is why i don't buy bear grylls line.
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>>33812142
have fun never using it.
>look guys I got this carbon fiber power drill
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>>33813732
We know people used seaxes and we know people used Bowie knives. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
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How shitty are mtech USA knives?
My friend found this randomly
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>>33814224
i mean they function. one of the folding knives nearly took off my finger, while a different one has proven reliable for a lot of things.

Their fixed blades, the non-mall ninja ones, will ususally return the amount of money put into them, work wise. the one you have pictured will likely work fine for many things, but likely has a slim rat tail tang that goes 3/5ths the handle length.

tl;dr, it'll work but its nothing fantastic.
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>>33814224
Very, but it'll cut stuff and if you don't put it under too much stress it ought to be fine. It's certainly better than no knife.
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Looks like United Cutlery has made the supreme meme affordable.
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>>33814918
>making a knife that deadly more affordable
what were those madmen thinking? don't they know it takes a team of surgeons to close those wounds?

does look better without the retarded screw in sheath though
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>>33814224
Stainless steel knives I have had like that don't hold an edge well but mine always spring back into shape if I try using them as a pry bar. Edge wears off quick and doesn't sharpen great but still a bit of a cutting edge if you force it right.
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>>33814918
Not much finger protection for a thrusting weapon.
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>>33815792
Having a handguard on everything isn't nearly as important as the internet might have led you to believe. Many knives lack one for the sake of concealability.
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Hey /k/. What are some good quaility, cheap, throwing knives?
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>>33816060
I'm not talking about everything. I get that makers design knives with functional edgess without guards (and even tactical knives) to keep it from snagging on clothing among other things, but that's just a dagger without a guard and tactically your choices are limited to it's design.
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>>33816369
Generally speaking, you want a knife that weighs one ounce per inch, and 10" is about the minimum for a decent thrower.
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>>33817211
>your choices are limited to it's design

Yes, one generally stabs with the tip and such.
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>>33794089
my defense and shtf knives. obviously the emerson is the self defense. i use a cheap kershaw flipper as an edc for cutting shit.
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>>33817713
emerson karambit and a Kabar D2™ Extreme™ Fighting™ Knife™ btw.
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>>33817713

Nice. The Emerson Black Talon Karambit is by far the best self-defense knife. I have a commander version myself, all my buddies have the one you have. Want one myself still. Should have got it when they were selling for $180.00. Right now I won't get one unless they upgrade the steel to at least S30V for their price.
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>>33817713
>using a meme for self-defense
>using a ka-bar for anything
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>>33817426
Nice letter opener.
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>>33817995
Beats the pants off an F-S any day of the week.

I'm surprised more of the MUH FULL TANG generation doesn't dickride the Ek.
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Who else likes brown knives? Just ordered pic related.
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I'm in the mood for something cheap, serviceable, pointy and choppy. Anyone got hands-on with either of these OKC pieces?

Ontario SP43

Ontario SP50
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>>33818223

Got it to go with my favorite knife.
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>>33817883
I mean, it isn't the only knife I own or carry. I used to carry my little ESEE Izula. Hell I used to carry my Buck 110. I've successfully defended myself when I carried a benchmade auto before, and I figure the karambit won't let me down either. If push comes to shove, against a normal aggressor, I'm sure I will fuck them up. The Kabar...I just like Kabars. What's wrong with a Kabar, besides having a fake full-tang?
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>>33818336
how is the southard? ive only heard good things, but it doesnt appear to offer much in benefit over the mantra 2.
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>>33817883
Besides, I never said I was oper8r...
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>>33818423
DELETE THIS!!!
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>>33818183

What do you think of the new KA-Bar Eks? I've got one of the daggers and it seems pretty boss.
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>>33818413

It's awesome, but the clip is horrible. Replaced it right away. Other than that I love everything about it.

It's a knife that I like purely on it's looks. Something about it is so eccentric and strange but it appeals to me in a viseral way. That's why I like it over the Mantra 2. It also has a corrosian resistant CTS 204P which comes razor sharp. It's one of the sharpest factory knives I've ever got. In the top 5 for sure. The quality all around on it is amazing. I really like how the stonewashed titanium is silky soft, the G-10 is the perfect roughness, and the blade and spidy hole are rounded in such a nice way that I can't keep touching it. I guess that is the best part about it. It's so much fun to touch, flip and hold; just as much as it is to look at.
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>>33818223
I do. $60 for pic related seems a bit steep since it's Boker+ but I really like the blade shape and how the knife looks in general.

>>33818390
Every day of the week then, whichever.

>>33818446
They look great but I don't have one yet. I'm waiting for them to put out the boot knife as a normal release.
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>>33817883
I'm all about the memes.
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>>33818446
I gotta have that.
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>>33817772
>The Emerson Black Talon Karambit is by far the best self-defense knife.
nah
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Get a Terävä Jääkäripuukko 110 and never worry about a knife for daily innawoods use, ever.
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>"tactical" knives without a proper finger guard
>"tactical" knives with sawteeth on blade
>"tactical" folders
>"tactical" sub-15cm blades
>"tactical" knives with exposed tang grip
>"tactical" knives with finger-grooved grip
>"tactical" knives with unorthodox blade geometry
>"tactical" knives designed for cutting rather than stabbing
Why is any of this allowed?
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Are karambit a meme?

I can't see them being more useful than a regular knife for pretty much anything, including self defense.
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I'm going to be working in a real shithole area soon, what's a good legal knife to carry in the UK for self defense if I get set upon by chavs?
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>>33820119
Not every knife is supposed to be tactical nor does every tactical knife share the same design principles. Stop being autistic.
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>>33796709
>>33805256
Opinel master race
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>>33797157
Found one in a literal pile of horse shit, cleaned the rust off and now it's my daily
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>>33820473

Why did someone put a knife in horseshit and why were you looking in on?
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>>33820431
The designs I listed are objectively shit (apart from exposed tang/side only grip which I just dislike).
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I'm not allowed to carry a gun in my country, and for knives I'm pretty much limited to folders.

Which one would be the best for self defense?

Requirements:
Blade of 11 cm or under
Single edge
Non auto
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>>33820803
carry a telescopic baton instead
you'll get killed if you draw that puny folder (or any knife), too easy to get punched/kicked/grappled and lose the weapon to the attacker
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>>33820842
Baton is illegal here as well.

Honestly I think the knife would be good just for the intimidating factor.

I'm trained in MMA but I am by no means a big guy, I could take down a regular punk but I'd rather not take the gamble if he pulls out a knife.
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Daggers without handguards must be one of the most retarded things in existence. Stab a motherfucker and you have couple of cut tendons in your hand. Even today that means a good chance of lifelong impairment or loss of function or even amputation.
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>>33820861
If he pulls a knife then reaching for yours is a big fucking gamble.
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>>33820803
Knives are always lethal, so make sure you wound get that motherfucker as much as you possibly can. Some sort of karambit or the lil matriarch from spyderco would be the best you can do.

If you just want the scarefactor, literally every flip knife will do that. Even better if you get something with a wave feature. Cold steel, spyderco, fox knives etc. Wave mods can also be done by putting zipties on the spidyehole
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>>33820876
>he doesn't know how to use a guardless knife without getting cut
git gud
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>>33818532
This is, probably, the most aesthetic knife I've ever seen. I bought it just now on looks alone. I hate myself
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So /k, how is my oldfag, folding, knife collection looking? My gf gave me the Douk Douk for my burthdah.

Still need to get a Higonokami, the African ring knives (cant think of the name atm), and what else you think?
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>>33821145
That's a tanto in Shirasaya dress. That's just how they are stored, its not intended to be used that way.

Most tantos did have at lest a slight tusba, not to mention the wrapped handle gives a lot more grip than bare wood.
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>>33820404
Everything is a meme, including that question.

Karambits are SE Asian utility knives that were adopted by the martial arts of the area because lots of people had one. Some people will tell you that they're mystical ninja shit meant to cut tendons and pierce the skull, those people are retarded. Other people will tell you that karambits are useless for anything but cutting your wrists, those people are also retarded. It's just another knife.
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Good purchase for 13€?

Stainless steel blade.
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>>33822117
If you're going to get classic knives from different countries, something I'd like to do, get one of this.

Made in Albacete, handle is made from bull horn. Can't get more Spaniard than that.
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>>33820119

m8
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>>33818446

For the price of that shit you can get a real old school EK knife

FAGGOT

You're everything that's wrong with the knife world
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>>33822143
It's a Mora, what more to be said? They are pretty much the only recommendable /out knives for less than $20ish
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>>33794089
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>>33817883
>not using memes
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>>33821145
I don't disagree with the point you're making but like the first dude said that's not usually how you'd see such a blade mounted when carried. Many tantos had no guard but also like the first dude said many had at least a minimal tsuba. Kaikens specifically have no guard.
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>>33822117
>african ring knife
Okapi. The one cold steel makes is called the kudu and that has got to be the awkward action of any knife I've ever seen. Every time I close that knife I feel like I'm gonna break it and/or slice my thumb off
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>>33816369
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>>33816369
claymore is your best choice desu
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>>33796676
i the loo
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>>33821758
I's buy it too, if some utter dickhead hadn't put a giant hole right through the most stressed part of the knife.
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Bros where do I get a belt sheath for a folding knife
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>>33794089

Taiwanese aborigines Edition
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>>33822809
Other Taiwanese aboriginal knives
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>>33822779
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>>33822779
custom order one from a leather worker/ holster maker etc. they are pretty cheap
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>>33818487
She is a damn pretty blade and the look is enticing. Was wondering if there were any inherent benefits, thanks.

>>33820803
Spyderco offers a bunch if shit that works around most Euro laws. If nothing suits your needs, Mora small Or crkt spew
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>>33822770
Well, I won't be doing anything heavy with it so let's hope the guy I stab in self defence isn't made of iron or something I guess
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I've never owned a pocketknife and would like to start carrying one around.
What would a decent entry level one be?
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>>33795732
why even fold...
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I got a Kershaw Cryo last night. How badly did I fug up?
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>>33823280
>8cr13mov
need i say more
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>>33823198

>How much money
>Tasks you are going to perform
>Fixed or Folder
>Blade lenght
>Blade Style
>Blade Steel
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>>33823280
You should have got this.

http://www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-folding-knives/pp_218906.html

Same shit but cheaper.
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>>33823425
>How much money
up to $75
>Tasks you are going to perform
light cutting like fabric/plastic, also gutting fish
>Fixed or Folder
folder
>Blade length
around 4 inches
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>>33823813
You'll forget you had other criteria
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>>33794089
I want pic related real bad
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>>33823813
Spyderco Endura if you are ok with 3.75in, cold steel has some nice stuff to, but i'd go for the cts-xhp versions they might be a bit pricier though
if you can go smaller check out Ontario RAT Model 1 with D2 steel or the Spyderco Tenacious. just avoid brands like gerber, crkt, sog, any gun brand, no name stuff, safetybeltcutter-tacticool shit, the cheap boker stuff basically anything they try to sell you as "cool" or "new" or anything like that.

The simpler the better
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>>33822779

What kind of knife?
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>>33794089
Biggest knife I own.
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>>33796292
>I think you need to stop being an autist who turns basic tool maintenance into an overblown ritual.
this.
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>>33820404
>I can't see them being more useful than a regular knife for pretty much anything
It has a ring.

The ring lets you use your hands to do other stuff without having to drop the knife.

>>33823813
Spyderco Pacific Salt

Edge retention isn't great in plain edge, but for all intents and purposes, it's rustproof.
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Curious
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>>33824178
I wish mora had handle options like this instead of fuckhuge only
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Why do wicked edge etc. Cost so many money's? I have the lansky but its no where near a wicked edge.

How often do you sharpen your knives? I usualy sharpen the 5-6 i use on a regulae basis and then use them one by one untill they are dull
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>>33810421
How do you carry your izula? I had a folder almost take my fingers off so im looking into small fixed blades.

The izula seems like a good choice, but how do i carry it without scaring normies?
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>>33794089
Are K-Bars a meme?
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>>33832811
Everything's a meme. I'm a meme, you're a meme. We're all memes.
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>>33826758
reminds me of a leuku
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>>33830801
>I had a folder almost take my fingers off
Did you try to cut with the wrong side of the blade?
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Yugoslavian AKM bayonet. Very dull because I'm too poor to sharpen it. Maybe this month.
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>>33822167
I'll look into it, thanks!


>>33822417
Yeah I know about the Cold Steel ones, but I figure I might as well look for one made in Africa. Not to mention I hate Cold Steel's 4166 steel.

>>33830450
Yes they are very expensive, partly because the precision of the machining, and partly because of how little demand there is. It's a novelty item for most people. I had no problem spending $400 something on my WE years ago and putting more than $600 more into it over the years, because I was making a lot of money with it. Next big buy will be nearly $950, a Tormek T8 system.

As for how often I sharpen; Once I fully sharpen a knife, I normally just do a few passes on a strop before I put it away at the end of the day. After a few weeks, maybe a few months, depending on the steel/use I'll microbevel. And then do the same cycle again but with a slightly thicker microbevel. In reality I only need to fully resharpen any given knife every few years since I rotate my EDC.

>>33830801
I kind of have to agree with >>33833412, if you are putting that much force on the back side of the blade, you are doing something grossly wrong. I have only ever had one lock failure that lead to stitches, and it was because I was being really dumb.

In normal use, any half way decent lock is good enough, all it's there for is to prevent an accident (like you hit the back of the blade against something), or to stop it from closing if you are trying to stab something, even still you should try to stab in a way to put the force on the stop pin, not the lock.

>but how do i carry it without scaring normies?

Where do you live? I carry plenty of folders that look scary, like my Brous Blade Sniper (pic related)for example, and as long as you aren't swinging it around in front of people, no one cares. I live in the cuck state of Nj, which is very anti-knife, and I'm fine. And when I'm in Maine, no one looks twice if I have a 7" (blade) fixed blade on my belt.
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>>33814918
it's a knockoff of the Fagdcommando by Microdick

speaking of such things... where's MT Guy?
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>>33819093
i have a clinch pick and i just don't like the way the blade is sharpened. it feels counter intuitive to me and i feel like i'd just cut myself with it.
i feel much better about pic related as a defensive carry blade.
at .25" thick, the blade is not going to break eiither
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>>33824226
>avoid brands like gerber,
I just inherited one of these
what makes you reccomend avoiding them?
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>>33833935
Meh. Mainly the chinesium steel. I also dont like to recomend cheap knives becuse i'm gonna be the one that gets shitted on if it fails/breaks.

Rather get something to solid than something not so solid.

Dont get me wrong i have 2 gerber knives myself and i could probably use them until i die and most guys do exactly that. Same With crkt and other "cheap" brands.
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>>33833935
I had some QC issues with my mini Covert. Maybe I just got unlucky cause their American stuff seems pretty decent. Honestly every company has their good and bad models, you just got to know which ones to look for.
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>>33798277
This.
I actually never bought a new chef knife for this reason. I buy a banged up completely dull one at some thrift shop for 5 bucks (a good one with a good weighty handle of course) and in half an hour I make it extremely sharp, sharper than the edge I would get with a new knife from the store.
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Are ghurka house kukris any good?
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Can I get a recommendation for stilettos or Italian stiletto switchblade companies to look into? I just want a genuine Italian stiletto for the memes
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>>33803245
vid with sound?
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>>33798277
I agree except for;

>more satisfying

More satisfying is completely subjective. I do mostly Wicked Edge and belt sander work, but I still do a fair amount of free hand work. I find getting a good edge is always satisfying, regardless of the means to get there.

>It's faster

Not always, if you are making a direct comparison, putting the same identical edge via the two methods, then the cutting speed of the stone is more important. With free hand, it is easy to cheat a few degrees, with out a lot of practice, which drastically reduces the sharpening time, but leaves you with a different edge. Of course guided systems require time to clamp the knife, this varies greatly by set up, my WE with the gen 3 vice and angle cube, takes about 2-3 minutes. Then again, the same argument can be made for some free hand, I always soak my Water Stones for 5-10 minutes before use. For reference, on my WE, it took about 10 minutes to take a factory Opinel No.9 Carbon down to 16dps mirror polish.

> you're not putting down nearly as much money

Once again, depending on the set up. Yes a Wicked Edge is pretty much one of the most expensive rigs, but something like a fully spec'd out Edge Pro, is as expensive as a high end free hand set up, i.e. 400-6,000 Naniwa Chosera stones (my favorite), some DMT (or such) diamonds for rough work and lapping, and a large strop.


>>33833935
Yeah I would not recommend Gerber, they used to make a lot of great knives, but have really went down hill in quality. Some of there American made stuff is still half way decent, just make sure to watch reviews first.

CRKT however, they have a lot of really cool designs, they can be very hit or miss though. I would, and have, bought CRKT's before, just very important to watch reviews or try to get one in hand before buying.
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When buying a cheap knife (10-20 bucks), what difference can I expect from something like a Kershaw Chill and a chink knife like Sanrenmu o Ganzo?

I'm just paying for the brand, since the cheap lines are made in China?
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>>33836619
You may consider something like an Opinel, they are the most usefull I've handled for sub $20.

As for modern knives though. With Kershaw you are at lest getting a solid warranty, and a doing business with a company that will answer your emails, and give you a US shipping address. And some of the money will be going to the actual designer, if that means anything to you.

I have a Chill, it's a nice knife, at lest for $20.

But really, at lest in most cases, I don't see the point in buying really cheap knives, when the Kershaw Leek/Skyline/Link are really not THAT much more expensive, and just leagues above.
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>>33837266
do you guys own any nice knives or are you all just poorfags?
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>>33794089
>Bigger is better

Okay. (That's a double bed btw)
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>>33837390
holy fuck thats big, what is it?
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>>33837495
Some kind of tourist blade from the early XXth century I thing, never was able to find exactly what it was.

Obviously it's absolutly un-handy but it has some nice etchings.
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>>33837313
Well depends what you define as "nice". No Rocksteads, Marfiones, or Todd Beggs... But a hand full of ZTs and upper end Spydercos.

But I think it is deceptive to imply you can't get a "nice" knife for $50. There are plenty, just obviously not as refined.
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>>33837390
>>33837495
Well if we are talking swords now.
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>>33837632
ok anon
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>>33837642
Fuck I need to take a picture with all my shit on it as well.

What is the longsword ?

>vietnamese saber
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>>33835780
Any opinion on stilettos branded Coltellerie Mantago Italia? This seems to be what I'm looking for but I'm hoping an anon here has insight
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>>33837728
I got it a few months ago. It's a Valiant Armory Rhinelander. I really like it, well worth the wait.
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>>33837771
Nice !
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>>33804407

This! I've got a Svord drop point hunter and have done something similar.

Sanded the varnish off, smothered it in sno-seal boot wax and left it in the oven at about 100c for a while to get the wax molten and allow it to seep into the wood.

Favourite knife ever. Use it for all camping/hunting tasks and keep it razor sharp with a diamond paste impregnated leather stropping block. Pic related.
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>>33833795
Busy probably.
He has only been here like 3 times in the past few months.
Probably still pissed about getting banned
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I'm working on my first original/custom knife design.

What steps should I take to patent the design? I already have the designs drawn out and dated. How strong/extensive are my intellectual property rights? How expensive is it to make a patent? I live in the US.

I made a design I'm very proud of and hope to sell temporary rights to the design in exchange for royalties in the future. Similar to how SOG pays Brous for the Growl, or Emerson royalties for the wave feature, etc.

Nobody, not even custon makers, are making this knife yet, and I need/want to get every penny out of it I can. I spent several hours just drawing it up and making plans with a friend to produce prototypes so far. I really want to see this seed bear fruit.

Should I wait until I have solid steel prototypes before going public? At all? Or should I go public with my design/plans immediately and start a gofundme/kickstarter?
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>>33839721
how useful is your design? it's pretty hard to reinvent the knife. Criss Reaves did it with the frame lock, you mentioned the wave feature, any bearing joints are already produced and mastered. blade geometry is completely charted. other than cool design it would be difficult to come up with anything new that hasn't all ready been invented.

invention is born out of necessity. look at the bark river EDC, it's the most perfect knife made today because of how simple it is.
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>>33839721
second part: How easy will it be to get your knife known?

Here is the H&K 14460 Nitrous Blitz, perhaps the most overlooked, lightest weight, ingenious spring assist ever made. Yet nobody has ever heard of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dkySBZxf4g
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Once again, another potentially great design by Spyderco utterly ruined by a BIG GLARING HOLE in the blade.

Fuck Spyderco and fuck spyderfags with their "super" placebosteels hoarding 12 versions of the same knife just so they can look pretty in a drawer, never cutting anything tougher than paper

I say this as a (reluctant) Spyderco owner
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>>33839721
Last part: People follow crowds. you see so many people post their spyderholes, but did you know an arguably better, lighter, stronger, similar knife has just hit the market? for the same price?

Nope, just spdiefans with the status quo ultimate knife meme
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>>33840288
sigh... what could have been
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>>33837266
Honestly, I just love the simple design of the Chill.
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>>33840204
>tip down
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>>33841239
>tip up
I'm holding mine in my hand right now, I can honestly tell you the thing would burst open in your pocket/hand if it was tip up.
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>>33841239
most spring assist blades are tip down
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>>33840288
>just so they can look pretty in a drawer, never cutting anything tougher than paper

What ever makes you happy bro.

>>33841128
Yeah R.J. Martin is a great designer. His son, Matthew Martin is also a good designer. The pen I normally carry is made by him. A 400 series in Carbon fiber and Titanium.

>>33840298
There are plenty of knives that fill the same roll. Probably the lightest EDC I have is an A.G.Russell Featherlight in VG-10, I highly doubt many people have heard of that. But that's not the point, Spyderco is a reliable company with a strong reputation. They are the kind of company a Knife Enthusiast would recommend to a non knife enthusiast just looking for a tool.

Just as a gear head may drive a 80's E30 BMW, but would recommend a Toyota to family members who just want a reliable, proven, tool.
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How are bearmoo whetstones? I need a new set, not sure what grits are needed for super sharp. Was thinking of getting the 1k/4k stone and the 3k/8k stone.
Will not pay more than $50 for two stones. So don't suggest wicked edge for me
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>>33822170
I'm sure you operate real hardcore with that... in the kitchen.
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>>33840096
>>33840204
>>33840298
Fine. Guess I'll just come out with it. Not like it'll get popular here. You guys fancy utilitarian functions more anyway.

These are the cardboard cut-outs I made so a friend can trace the outlines to steel and get a look at how I want the grind work done.

Essentially, it's a karambit/wharncliffe fusion, so I named it the KaramCliffe Apache (because it sort of has the silhouette of an apache helicopter without rotary blades).

The handles are nearly identical. The blade lengths are 3" and 4".

Compare the measurements/features of my Karamcliffe design to the following:
Kabar TDI Hinderance
Benchmade Aezir
Spyderco Ronin 2

I designed it because all the knives on the market are missing at least one if not more of the key features I put into this design.
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>>33840298

>those colors

<3

>>33840334

The whole is functional and gives them character. There is something endearing about the hole. Its like it gives the knife eyes and makes it cute; but it's a knife.

One thing I say about the spyder hole is how sharp the edge on it are. It cuts the shit out of your thumbnail after a while. The best spyder hole is on the Southard. It's got a nice chamfer or rounded stone wash finish to it. Even though the hole is a little small it feels so much nice on your finger than the sharp ones, and it still gives you good grip.
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>>33841884

Rad knife, bro!
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>>33842008
dont be mean
>>33841884
it looks great man. it'll be fun to watch it turn into steel here on /k/. good luck
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>D2
>liner lock
>FRN handles
>flipper
>3" and 3.5" blade versions
>$40~

Seems decent.

>Cutjack
>RAT-1
>Avispa and Zancudo
>Byrd Raven 2

The $40-$45 range is looking pretty good these days.
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>>33842078
>dont be mean
"rad" is something the kids say, it means "cool" or "awesome". its a good thing.
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>>33841884
The design is slightly reminiscent of some of Robert Carters work, particularly his more recent stuff with CRKT. What is the intended function? Here is some constructive criticism.

First issue I see, at lest for general utility, is how far the finger guard is below the edge. Even on knives like the Kershaw Skyline where their flipper is less than a .25 inch below the blade, it gets in the way while cutting on a surface.

This problem is only amplified by the fact that it has no belly, only the point will be able to be used on flat surfaces. Having a slight belly and sweeping back the point slightly, like the ZT 0770, Sebenza Insingo, Kershaw Link, greatly improves utility performance.

The concave slope of the the spine of the handle is questionable. Notice how most knives known for ergonomics have handles that curve from spine to edge; Kershaw Diskin Hunter, most Spydercos, Hinderer does it really well. I have some knives with straight handles that just are not that comfortable for this reason; Ontario SK-5 Blackbird, Cold Steel Recon Tanto.

The little bump where the handle transitions to the spine of the blade. Depending on hand size that could fall in a bad place, for example I have a CRKT Shenanigan with this problem. However it can be done right, like on my Ganvko T-rex.

How far the guard goes into the Ricaso. I notice you have a decent looking sharpening choil, but the guard looks like it could be in the way even for free hand, and definitively for a lot of guided systems.

Also what is your intended stock thickness and geometry? That can make or break a knife. Pic related are my two Gavko, maybe two of the most functional knives I own.
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>>33841884
Oh yeah, I also plan to get a form-fitted kydex sheath made for it that the blade/handle would ride fairly deep in the pantline with a steel iwb belt clip.

TDI's handles are too short, no ring, no guard.
Ronin 2 has no retention ring, and I prefer physical guards to deep finger choils. The sheath is also made of cheaper plastic than kydex, and the belt clip is made of that same cheap material.

All those iwb conceal carry knives come a tad short of what I want/expect from such a knife. This design will have all my criteria for a defense blade. It can be held reverse or forward with or without a finger in the ring.

Also, wharncliffes are easier to sharpen than karambits.
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How often do you guys cut yourself with knives? I pride myself in not cutting myself at all to the point of blood in probably a decade until last night. Cut my thumb pretty bad on the Military pictured. Accidentally brushed my finger across it reaching for something. Feels bad man.
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>>33842201
Criticism is welcome. And yours would be completely on-point if I didn't design this as a weapon first and foremost. The grind from choil to tip will be hollow. The other grinds will be mostly flat but taper towards the tip. The thumb groove will probably need a bit more tweaking, yeah. One is a weapon for on the field, the shorter being a weapon for civilians in public. I may even decide to give them chisel-ground edges, because I intended these to be either sharpened free-handed, or on a modern belt system. Yeah, the design wouldn't take well to lansky guide systems, but I'm good with free hand and 1x30 belt grinders in 400-1000grit and leather strop belt. The guard shouldn't interfere with those sharpening forms.

I'm following the same philosophy as Michael Janich did for his Yojimbo2/Ronin2, but with twice the retention, and a little Emerson wave theory for the guard (the original reason he made the wave was to act as a catch/guard, not for auto-deployment). Watch Jaenichs video on Yojimbo 2, and Emersons interview on how/why he made the wave feature.

The guard will prevent slipping onto the blade, and in certain grips it should act as a catch/control or blunt punch stud. The thumb ramps are a work in progress. I won't know the thickness until I finish a few prototypes.

The reason the handle archs in reverse was to better suit a left-handed reverse grip. The guard will be formed as we grind away excess metal. The skeletonized platform should be suitable for whatever handle material a person could want. Even a paracord wrap.
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>>33841884

Here I am going to help you out bro. Those handles are going to be way to uncomfortable to use. Also that bolster/edge guard is pure edgelord and isn't going to be comfortable either. This is the profile you should go for. It's will make it feel much better in either grip style.
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>>33841338
Are they? Every assisted Kershaw, Benchmade, Bear and Son I've seen have a tip up option.
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>>33842423
I'll take that into consideration as we grind out the prototypes. Thank you.

Saving the pic for reference. Idk about doing it precisely the way you outlined, but I was thinking of making the guard shorter, yeah. Still want a bolster/guard though. Similar-ish to the one on the SOG tsunami before it was discontinued, except maybe putting the cut-outs on the top side rather than bottom. Idk yet. It's all a work in progress until one piece of prototype steel out-shines the others.
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>>33794089
/diy/ here, I'm hoping to make a small diving knife out of work hardened cupronickel in the coming week or two. Pic related
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>>33839721
You're not going to get a patent unless you invent some kind of mechanism or something actually innovative.

>>33841884
You just put a ring on a wharncliffe, so yeah, definitely not going to get a patent. As other people have mentioned, the guard is way too big and pretty redundant assuming you're using the ring.

If your plan is to be able to use the knife without the guard, then the rest of the handle is too cramped and the finger grooves don't match.

>>33841884
>and a little Emerson wave theory for the guard (the original reason he made the wave was to act as a catch/guard, not for auto-deployment)
Actually Emerson made the wave because the group that commissioned some knives wanted a bottle opener in the knife. The wave deployment was found by accident.

>>33842788
>Similar-ish to the one on the SOG tsunami before it was discontinued
You're not secretly SOGfag are you?
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>>33795664
Size? Steel?

Anyhow I'd say a OKC SP1. Good steel, good looking bowie design, great price, brand is known to be pretty high quality.
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>>33797157
They used to be the best brand for balisongs. But over the years they made folders and stopped making good balisongs, stopped caring about quality control, started using cheaper/lower end materials while simultaneously jacking the prices and marketing to different demographics using marketing ploys. The only real reason to buy a BM is Osborne designs and the warranty
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>>33797463
It's as ironic as the Filipinos issuing .45 acp and 1911 to their soldiers and policemen, and their firearms industry making 1911 clones.

It's also as ironic as the Japanese using M1 Garands as their drill rifles.
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>>33798332
You got ripped. Should have done your research before buying any gun-brand marketed knife. Most of them are shit-tier, unless it's the discontinued rebranded Benchmade/H&K's, which are still of questionable quality because they're Benchmemes.
>movies screwing up names
This surprises you? Kek
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>>33798677
>>33808266
>>33843548
>>33798332

Blade HQ had this on sale for 60$ Picked it up because I was curious about Smith and Wesson's few American knives. It's a pretty solid auto, well worth the $60 or even $100 non-sale price. Too bad they don't carry the drop point version there.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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