/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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>>33790640
If you want a good career after the military I'd suggest Navy. There is so much technology being developed for/deployed by the Navy that defense contractors will happily hire you once you finish your college degree.

>>33790760
But im not gay

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>>33790927
You will be, you will be...

Are non-issued patches allowed in the military? As in, besides your unit patch, flag, etc.

>>33790760
Im about to go to navy recruiter in an hour. Tell me more please.

>>33791037
Of course not.

>>33791264
Really? I distinctly recall seeing some BDU from Desert Storm at a museum with some non-regulation patches on it. I was in DC.

>>33791049
Go intel

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Feel free to ask questions here, but go for the jobs that appeal most to you. Every job in the military has a purpose, and you will find yours as well. Good luck, everyone.

>>33791049
Basically anything that uses technology systems like radar, aegis missile type stuff, IT security. Anything that you could imagine requiring engineering or computers to work. People love to hire ex Navy guys at places like where I work.

do STG's in the Navy hate their lives?

>>33791396
Excuse me, you're doing it wrong:

>HUA IF YOU AINT INFANTRY YOU AINT SHIT FUCK POGS FUCK NONNERS I LEAVE FOR BOOT CAMP IN 2 MONTHS

>>33791457
beautiful. spot on. satisfactory performance.

Royal air force is a 12 year commitment
What's life on base like?
What happens if I fail a fitness test after I'm in?
Are my friends for the next 12 years everyone on base?
Can I get a house outside of base?
If I land an aircrew role how often should I expect to be flying?

>>33791821
>Royal air force is a 12 year commitment
Holy hell Bongland, get your shit together.

>>33792241
>job security for 12 to 20 years
Yes please

>>33791037
They are out of regulation. Wearing non-issued patches in a major garrison exercise is begging to have problems.

A LOT of stuff you commonly see deployed guys wearing is not allowed. The depths of military uniform regulations are truly breathtaking. In garrison you have to follow the fully autistic regulations. On deployment, things are looser because you're away from a busybody command group (unless you work out of a major FOB, in which case it's a no-fun zone.)

>>33792301
It's extremely uncommon to be denied reenlistment in the US military. You have to be a *big* fuckup, because it's better to retain people than it is to train new recruits.
I can't imagine being locked into the service for 12 years. Life changes so much in 4, let alone 12.

How does one get to be an officer in USAF OSI counterintelligence? Do officers get to hunt for spies?

>>33792395
What can I do? Ya know
At this point in my life, its this or its nothing.

I've gone to college for 2 years now. I've pretty much hated every second of it. I think a career in the military is a viable alternative to this. Dad, grandpa, and great grandpa were all navy. Any thoughts or recommendations?

>>33792692
Go navy I guess
Its just 4 years innit

Should I go into infantry if I've been depressed for years and was just going to abuse drugs and kill myself anyway?

>>33792751
yes; you're exactly what they're looking for, and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>33792751
No, fuck off. I don't want someone like that watching my back.

>>33792851
I may want to kms but I still have camaraderie!

>>33792751
No. It won't help and you'll get someone else killed, not yourself.

>>33792954
If civilian life is too hard for you, how can you expect to handle combat?

If you want to kill yourself, just do it, don't put other lives in danger.

>>33792999
>>33792985
I'm enlisting purely out of spite now

Is a 77 on a practice ASVAB ok?
Obviously if I was to take it for real I'd study for it first.
Should I just commit sudoku right now for getting such a shameful score?

>>33793075
your real score will deviate upwards anywhere from 5-15 points. that's not a bad score at all.

>>33792471
>Do officers get to hunt for spies?
L O L

You look at CP all day.

>>33793075
It's OK. Not really noteworthy, but it is fine.

You'll probably qualify for most, if not almost all jobs.

>>33793104
Who does get to hunt for spies?

>>33793124
Counter Intelligence maybe

>>33792340
I figured. As I said in >>33791350 I went to a museum with Gulf War/Desert Storm era military displays and saw a BDU with what looked like a Punisher patch.

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>>33793104
Is CP that popular among airfags?

>>33793185
Why do you keep posting Scotty Kilmer?
Anyways, no, it's just that OSI is the AF equivalent of the FBI, so they handle things like CP and drugs within the ranks

They're basically upgraded cops, not counterintelligence.

>>33793087
>>33793113

Neat. Thanks anons.

>>33793151
The further a soldier is from prying eyes, the more they can get away with that stuff. It also helps if you have discretion and don't make an ass of yourself; a problem squad is going to get a lot more shit taken away than a squad that always takes care of the important stuff.

Even in garrison a lot of cool guys are forced to play the part and follow regs. If you ever see pictures of Special Forces guys leading a shooting course or something for a line unit, they usually wear the Army standard, regulation IOTVs. Also notice those IOTVs are usually sparkling clean because public interaction like that with the big Army is the only time they ever pull them out.

>>33793251
USAF actually rolls law enforcement and counterintelligence into a single agency and that's OSI. I can't speak for how much of either they do because I don't know but that's the mission description.

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>>33793185
Have you seen the average air force male? They look like stereotypical child sex enthusiasts.

>>33793136
USAF OSI does counterintelligence. Presumably they also employ officers. Am I missing something?

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>>33793522
>USAF actually rolls
Yeah, bread rolls

>>33793591
The Air Force actually makes the tape test part of their PT score. The test greatly benefits underfed skeletals more than anybody. I had a buff Air Force guy once complaining to me about it, since his muscled core made his stomach too thick according to the test.

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Let's say I wanted to join the military just to turn sandniggers into bloody piles of flesh and ribs preferably using a .50 BMG. What would be the best branch and MOS

>>33793573
>>33793591
>>33793185
Here he goes again...

>>33793616
18X. Specifically 18B

>>33793591
>42 in
That's a fail.

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>>33792751
Im in the same situation. Ive gone to college for one year, Im about to transfer but I already know that its not going to work out. Its just a shitty institution and all colleges are the same. Theres nothing really wrong with me but I crave the discipline/ experience. What are the chances I would actually see combat if i joined the army?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKxRT1v8V4I&feature=youtu.be

normie humor but I kek'd

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Will a sonnenrad tattoo on my shoulder disqualify me from military service?

No other tats.

>>33793786
>air force
Just give him a waiver

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>>33793998
why did you have to get an ideological meme tat BEFORE enlisting my man?

Also i'm starting to pursue officer packet right now. My recruiters offered me the pathway since I had a very high GPA and all that apparently. Did i goof? I hear its more responsibility but also more fringe and real benefits.

>>33794714
What branch?

>>33794776
Navy

>>33794714
It depends on what you want from the military. You probably have more fun as enlisted but obviously more pay as an officer.

>>33794714
If you have a degree, being an officer is no goof.

Looks better on resume, more money, you don't get harassed by salty SNCOs, etc.

Yeah it's a bit more responsibility, but if it's too much you can tap out at 4 years and look pretty darn good.
Most O's I've talked to who were separating weren't as worried about the stress as much as they weren't interested in the military any longer.

>>33794813
Depends on your definition of fun.
Getting harassed by shitty NCOs who have just put in the time is not "fun" imo.
As enlisted I had much more leeway and shit kinda didn't really affect me, if that makes sense.

Air Force is good for jobs after you get out right? What kind of field?

It's not that I want to be extremely rich, but I'd rather go Air Force + some college into a decent job > try to just compete for jobs via GPA solely college.

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>mfw no one here knows anything about the french foreign legion

>>33793579

They do CI, it's just the hurr durr chair force circlejerk at it again.

Also even if you specialize in CI you'll be working a lot of non-CI cases. For every Chinese or Russian spy ring you roust there will be a few CP cases, a couple of murders, and a dozen Airman fucknuts selling weed out of the barracks cases.

>>33794833
>As enlisted I had much more leeway and shit kinda didn't really affect me, if that makes sense.

This is what I meant by more fun. More hands on and not as demanding. You're always going to have shitty bosses. Junior officers get chewed out by senior officers. I hear officers also have to attend a lot of formal events and brown nose important people.

>>33794885
>You're always going to have shitty bosses
Look at it this way:
As an O-3, you're really only going to be worrying about O-4s and above, who are generally too few, and too busy to be getting up into your shit.
As an E-4, there are plenty of E7+ retards who take some sort of perverse joy in making things difficult for other people.

If you're looking to make a career of the military, you do need to brown nose at some level as an O.
If you don't care, then don't bother since you're leaving anyways.

If you have a degree, you're really selling yourself short to be enlisted, unless you only care about doing the job and revile everything else.

>>33794835
Cyber/Intel will net you a T/S clearance and 6 figure contracting jobs out the gate.

>>33795029

Man, you have not paid attention to how hard O5-6's fuck with O1-3's, or how every fucking stupid thing some E3 dipshit lands on some unlucky Lt or Cpt's table.

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>>33794861
mouth full of rocks

>>33795064
>how hard O5-6's fuck with O1-3's
Not sure what branch/command, but that shit doesn't happen here. When you're commanding a squadron you don't have the will or time to harass LTs about shit.

> fucking stupid thing some E3 dipshit lands on some unlucky Lt or Cpt's table
That's basically because official punitive actions aren't allowed to be dished out by NCOs. An officer has to sign off on extra duty/A15/admin demotion, etc.

Basically what I'm saying is that as a college grad, you probably going to enjoy life more as a junior officer than junior enlisted.

>>33795179

Oh, definitely. But it's a burden in a lot of ways.

>>33795041
When you say out the gate do you mean after 4 years or more? I imagine I at least need an AS degree but do I need the bachelors too?

>>33795493
People get contracting positions all the time with no degrees, just certs, clearance and experience.
You have to "check the boxes" so to speak.

Bachelors is only going to net you more money, no reason not to try and get it.

>>33795582

I've worked for a contractor before. They required a bachelor's for even entry level stuff as far as I knew. That degree is one of the boxes.

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>>33795602
There are tons of contractors, who need to fill tons of positions.

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i dont know what this pic is lol

>>33795582
>>33795602
>>33795657
I appreciate it my main dudes
I'm gonna try for cyber/Intel, already have high EST. Am I gonna want to kys myself though?

>>33795690
I'm cyber and enjoy my job.

>>33795284
Yeah all that extra pay sure is a burden on your wallet

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>>33790640
I will be going into the Army, aiming for Rangers or to get into Special Forces.
I do not want to be chair force and I will go as an officer, I need advice on what job should take.

>>33795920
Are you sure you're in college?

A lot of what you said was really fucking retarded.

>>33791440
The only rates that have justifiable self hatred are nukes, and seal/swcc

STS is a cake sub rate so STGs probably play videogames all day

>>33795937

Shhh. The Air Force doesn't need dumb officers, and if he's dumb enough to buy into memes aimed at high school kids then let him take what he gets.

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>>33795920
Wanting to be an officer in special forces and you aren't even in the service yet isn't exactly realistic. You need to be several years deep into your career and show great proficiency

would i be able to join the army? half of my righthand is paralyzed

Alright, here's the deal. I was misdiagnosed with Asperger's syndrome back in middle School. The doctor was a quack and I've since gone to one that's removed the diagnosis after testing. Would this count as a previous mental health issue, and should I even bring it up?

>>33795920
11A or 18A

For 11A realize that some officers are required to be Ranger qualified before they are eligible to apply to the Ranger Regiment.

But that is what you want

>>33796214

Don't bring it up. If they bring it up say that it was a misdiagnosis and that you've had it documented as such so you didn't think you needed to bring up a misdiagnosis.

Also finding your medical records is harder than you'd think.

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>>33796214
Assburgers isn't a real condition you obnoxious cunt.

You are a fucking autist. You have autism. You are a genuine retard.

Don't get mad at me for calling you a retard. Check the DSM V which is the supreme authority on mental diagnoses. You have AUTISM.

Surprise!

>>33796214
I should clarify, the doc said I never had it to begin with and struck it from my record. My current physician has nothing on my record about it, while my old pediatrician (who I switched from before I got the diagnosis reversed) has it on there. I only ask because the DD 2087- 2 asks for the name of your previous physician.

>>33796214
>In the new DSM-V, the diagnosis of Asperger's Disorder no longer exists and has been absorbed into the diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)

Holy shit, anon. You are officially retarded. And not in the funnyhaha way.

>>33796271
>>33796261
Literally stated I was misdiagnosed and have since gotten it reversed. Wasn't my fault some pill- pushing quack gave me a shitty meme diagnosis.

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I just got back into the gym in late January. I want to enlist towards the end of the year.
Fully rested I can do:
maybe ~30 pushups
probably maybe ~ 20 sit ups
run like 3/4th a mile before breathing hurts (8 years of smoking)
1/2 a dead hang pull up

I just started running/brisk-walking today.
Also I'm 6'9'' weigh like 215~220lbs. Is cardio going to be the death of me? I feel like I can lose maybe 5 more lbs but shit dude all my weight is in my fucking legs. You should see my thighs. I really need to see a recruiter about my height anyways, I feel like I'm gonna default regardless. Do they even make AR's in my size?

>>33796246
Thanks anon, do you think the DQ me for ever having been diagnosed, or would they understand the misdiagnosis?

>>33796325

Don't bring it up. If they bring it up say that you have it on record as being misdiagnosed. Afaik misdiagnosis shouldn't hurt you.

>>33796309
Don't ever mention it, there's plenty of socially quirky people in the military so it's not like you're going to stand out. Only thing people care about is if you do your job and follow the rules.

>Iraq and Afghanistan are on
>Fucking active gang members are getting into the military
>They cool down
>Now if you've smoked pot you might not be able to get a waiver, and cannot if it was "habitual"

Christ.

>>33796464
Those gang members were losing limbs "fighting" in relatively pointless wars. Don't envy too much

Also weed is for niggers

>>33796100
can anyone help me? i can move my thumb index and middle finger ok but ring and pinky i can barely move

>>33796464
You too could play war hero if you weren't a fucking disgusting degenerate

>>33796502

Errybody smokes though, rich or poor. Particularly in college.

>>33796560

Even the CIA lets you in if you've been clean for six months. I don't smoke though, but it just seems ludicrous to me.

>>33796578
>Errybody smokes though
no

>>33796525
The Army should let you in if your thumb and trigger finger work, I from how I understand it. I'd recommend talking to a recruiter about it though.

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Dumb boot here, im going on a month long FEX/FTX soon. Any tips for boring ass pit watches and embracing the suck?

>>33795920
That goal's not exactly realistic, but go for it. Don't be disappointed if you don't get to it, however. You're probably aware of the low acceptance rate into both the Rangers and SF, and you shouldn't be too discouraged if you don't cut it. Just remember, if you're not the 10 out of 100, there's 90 other guys that are just as disappointed as you.

>>33796641
thank you friend i appreciate your help

>>33794874
That sounds really boring. Is the FBI the best way to do proper CI stuff?

>>33796878

No. You're in the same boat. CGIS is pretty fucking solid though, look into that. They can do way more legally and logistically than the other CI services within the military.

Also most things are boring. OSI is probably pretty cool more often than most jobs.

>>33796648
Nah your corporal will help you lol

>>33796578
>Even the CIA lets you in if you've been clean for six months.

No. You need to re-read the application requirements.

>Automatic disqualify if use is within 12 months
>Any use beyond 12 months will be addressed on a case by case basis

Leaf here.

Im about to finish high school with good grades and I want to join the military doing either Medical Technician,Weapons Technician or just infantry.
I will most likely do military as a career as I have no other aspirations and nothing holding me back from joining.
Ive been getting in shape for the past 3 months and its going well,I can definatly pass the minimum requirments with ease at this point but I dont want to be the guy who barely passed so Im still working on it.
First thing I did when I was 18 was get my pal and rpal to practice weapon skills and its goin well too.
Anyways,any other leafs here that can give me advice before I see a recruiter in 3 months?Any is welcome,thanks.

>>33796648
Pack:
>Cohgan's Multispice container
>Polymer camping plate
>Polymer/lightweight camping mug capable of holding hot coffee
>Small containers of sugar/sweeter and powdered creamer of your choice
>Quality flip-flops
>Headlamp with a red or blue filter
>Electric light stick
>Stuffsacks to organize your clothes better
>Multiple $10 bills
>Folding camp chair or stool if possible

This is a starter list to keep you comfy on retarded FTXs.

You guys ever work with non-military agencies? Opinions on them?

>Foreign Service/State Dept
>IC
>Treasury
>LEOs

For my own part I've liked most of the IC people I've met. Only met one guy in the Foreign Service and he was dumb as shit, I think his parents helped get him in because they were well connected.

does anyone know any information on the 35t mos besides from the army website. I know its op-sec, but are there websites that talk more about it. also what is the possibility of getting a contract for 35t and then getting a nice job after my contract is done?

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>>33797055
thanks anon, also gonna stock up on tobacco (both for myself and to sell off in the later half of the exercise)

>>33796464
>2008+9
>still smoking weed
Are you 14?

>>33797147

I don't smoke, it just seems arbitrarily silly.

>>33796312
google c25k for running halps

Do advance studies count for relatively related jobs in the army? For example, would someone with a psychology or antrophology background would have better chances to become an 37F (Or 37A) than someone without it?

Im starting college soon but i plan to make a military career, so i am willing to chose a fitting field if it would give me that advantage.

Still undecided between army/marines.
I've met a handful of marines and have gotten along pretty well with all of them. Never met any army dudes.

I'm about to finish my associates in computer languages.. basically fucking nothing. I just want to hold a rifle. What do?

Anyone have knowledge of current GPA requirements for amry/marines? I did pretty bad but I went to a top 50 school.

I've talked to a Marines recruiter who said it didn't matter too much but I just don't want to get my hopes up then get denied passage to OCS. I have incredibly high standardized tests so I'm hoping it'll compensate for my shit academics.

>>33797446
If you're going infantry, not much is different. They both suck.

For anything else, you should probably stay away from marines.

>>33797506
Basically I'm considering whether or not I'm better off waiting for the next recruiting surge, so I don't get denied at a time when my chances might be nill, but if I've got a decent shot now I'd rather enlist soon.

>>33797369
>Do advance studies count for relatively related jobs in the army?

No. Unless you're doing direct accessions because you're a medical doctor or a lawyer and you're just getting a commission so you can be a military doctor or JAG. Otherwise the military is going to teach you to do things the way they want done. It doesn't matter if you're a published PhD in psych or what the fuck ever, if you try for a commission through OCS there's a not insignificant chance you end up being a logistics or admin officer.

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Will I be able to masturbate in peace at any point in my 9 weeks of training?

I don't think I can go that long without release

>>33798092
Just do it in the showers. It's only gay if someone watches.

ROTC or wait until after I get my bachelor's? I'll be in sophomore or junior year when I finally get the chance to go somewhere with a ROTC program, if that makes much of a difference.

>>33798850
ROTC, don't wait. Scholarships are starting to come back. If you wait post graduation you'll have to do Basic and OCS

>>33798865
Thanks. I figured that was gonna be the answer, but it was worth asking.

>>33798872
You could go do both...you could get an SMP contract which is kinda cool but you cant get scholarship. But you do get time in service and drill pay. By my senior year with rotc stipend and E-5 drill pay I was making 700 bucks a month with my reserve forces scholarship paying for school.

>>33798888
You can't get an active duty scholarship***

>>33798913
You lucky fuck. I suggest looking at your college rotc page they should give you a decent run down.

heres a random one I pulled that does a good summary.

http://natservices.norwich.edu/army/scholarships-and-contracting/#smp


>>33798925
SMP does not exclude you from active duty atleast when I went through. I had to deal with obama era financing so I had a GRFD scholarship which did exclude me from active duty.

Upon accession in Rotc you can get accessed into active duty. You are non-deployable cadet while in SMP but...you'd be anyway since you'd be college and not technically in the army.

>>33798092
You'll probably find yourself unable to get hard for a decent amount of basic. Don't worry this is normal and caused by a combination of stress, physical activity and potatoes.

>>33798945
Gracias, anon. I appreciate the spoonfeeding.

>>33798969
Its all good I've been down this road and pretty much stumbled through it. I got you.

>>33798984
So, accession is essentially graduating from your ROTC program and getting sent down the pipeline to the Guard/Reserves/wherever? And you can choose Active Duty assignment at that point?

>>33799002
I guess I'm asking how exactly it works. They present all your options at that point, or you make that decision at some point during ROTC?

>>33799002
>>33799006


During your senior year. ROTC is basically just waiting for you to finish your degree at this point.

So ROTC puts your packet into HRC. (Human Resources Command.) You're ranked based upon multiple factors GPA, APFT score, how well you did you at camp, sucking your ROTC instructors dick. (Not kidding.)

When they put it in you're also able to put in your dream sheet. Which basically says what you want. Doesn't mean they'll give it to you. But they do consider it. This includes what component you want: Active, Reserves, Guard, your branch (Infantry, Field Artillery, Aviation etc.), Duty Station which is basically where you want to live. Don't worry about duty station so much you can switch this later at your officer training course. I had a few friends who were able to trade assignments at our officers course.

You can also put in an ADSO (Active Duty Service Obligation.) Which means you can add on extra years on your contract for certain things if they give it to you. Including active component and duty station.

>>33799036
Huh. That seems alright. How'd your dream sheet turn out? Get most of what you wanted? And what's considered a good GPA/APFT?

Nice. Perfect thread to ask, been on my mind for the past few weeks now.

I'll just keep it tl;dr, but basically 6 semesters in college, studying IET (IT), and really hating the academic environment/procedure. Leadership is academics is lacking amongst other various problems like degree bullshit, really not enjoying myself.

Been thinking heavily about joining Navy and continuing to pursue my IT career goals from there given that Navy is huge on IT related stuffs.
Ok physical condition, but nothing really to look at.
Part of a SaR team so I'm good and familiar with group/teamwork in the field
Also really, really tired and fatigued all the time, 4chan probably being one of the sources, amongst the several I suspect.

What do?
I guess to better clarify my wants and goals, I've always wanted to end up working for an IT contractor for the military or government, being stationed around the world fixing various problems. Is Navy a good path branch for this goal?

>>33799036
Usually you put in your packet for accessions around September and find out around October-December of your senior year.


I don't remember what I wrote. My dream sheet was totally inconsequential. I was a GRFD scholarship, I knew where I was going. I signed away active duty for free college. I commissioned into the guard and hate my civilian life/job. Thankfully Trump opened active duty applications to current guard and reserve officers. So I'm hopefully gonna get good news back. If not I'm going to a cool guy course in July so that'll be fun.

As far as APFT goes get above 270. GPA just depends on everyone else. But minimum is a 2.5


>>33799059
For IT yes but idk I'm army.

>>33799085
Damn. Sounds like APFT is going to be the tough part, then. I only started running two or three months ago, and I never did anything before then. I'm still just getting myself to the point where I can run 2 miles without having a heart attack.

At least I'll be set on GPA. I have somewhere around a 3.6 right now, and I can probably keep it there or get it higher.

I hear recommendations are good for college option officers. Are recommendations good for the packet you send to HRC?

>>33799115
We're the exact opposite from 19-23 I could run a 14:00 two mile with zero prep. Now I have to train up because I lift and don't run ever.

You don't have the option to send LORs with your packet to HRC.

It sounds like you'll be fine if you start lifting and keep running.

>>33799134
Thanks, anon. This is a lot more information than I had an hour ago. Feels a lot more solid now.

I can chat up my friend in Navy Basic if I want some PT tips, or check the pastebin for /meg/, so I'm gonna go pass out. Thanks for the help.

Currently at air force ots.

ama

>>33799627
11FX? Can you choose your AFS or is it a dice roll?

anyone have experience with RAAF airbase protection?

>>33798948
This is accurate. I didn't even get horny for 8 weeks, but once I got to A-school, i nearly shot a hole through the ceramic toilet tank.

>>33799627
How do application packages work? Do you apply for a job slot, and if you get it, you go to OTS, like the enlisted system?
Does this all work with the same enlisted recruiters, or are some for officers?

what are the chances of there being deployments in the next two years?

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Is it hard to become a mustang?

>>33800050
>I want to be an officer
>But I'm going to enlist first so people respect me

I want you to think about how retarded that sounds

>>33800050
You won't. Enjoy your time in the enlisted corps.

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>>33800297
>>33800263
Why does it have to be this way?

>>33800435
If you actually wanted to be an officer you would have already gone through ROTC, a service academy, or you'd already be in OCS. Instead you are the kind of fag who talks about it all day instead of just doing it. And you'll do the same shit tomorrow. And the next day.

>>33800537
I'd like to go through ROTC, but I can't go to college right now.

>>33797530
even if you get denied I think you can reapply.

Is the air force selfish?

I'm big on camaraderie. I take pleasure out of helping others and doings things as a team. I want to work as a team and work with people I trust and rely on.

What branch has this the most?

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Did anyone on /k/ watch Billy Lynn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmy4pyPpv8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiHgX_WFAMc

>>33801053
Probably the marines.

I will be graduating from college with a bachelor's in health science this week and have been heavily considering the air force as a career option. Does anyone has experience with healthcare jobs in the air force or any other branches? I want to go to Physician assistant school and the air Force reserve seems like a great way to help me pay for it.

>>33800871
You can always enlist, do your minimum of four years and then get out and use the GI Bill to go to school. After you get your degree, if you still want to be an officer, then apply. You'll get to see life on both the civilian side and military side before you make a larger commitment.

In reality it is much easier to get out and go through OCS than it is to try to do OCS while still in the military.

>required to ruck around in German basic with a backpack stuffed full of unnecessary shit
>explanation given is "to get you used to the heavy loads you'd be actually carrying in battle, since we can't just load you down with all that gear right now, you fucking retarded boot"
>mfw I'm struggling to think of shit I'd lug into battle with me after removing all the retarded shit in the backpack

Just what the fuck do they expect me to do in battle? Actually use that entire change of clothes they make me lug around? I considered changing my underwear on a three day field excercise but decided against it because
>German forest
>undressing even in a tent
>tickseverywhere.exe
Like, what kind of fucking contingency are these nitwits planning for? What do you guys actually load into your rucks?

>>33801053
Coast Guard

Sorry about the late reply, I'm sure you guys understand, considering.

>>33799676

Dice roll

>>33799961

You take the afoqt and assemble that with the rest of the package. You put down five jobs and they choose one for you based on the needs of the air force - you go to OTS after that.

The academy application is a different process that I know nothing about.

Enlisted people take the asvab and put down ten jobs with one open category if I remember correctly.

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Out of curiosity, what are the physical requirements for each of the branches?

Can presently run a mile in 7:49, can do 7 unassisted pullups, 12 chinups, 50 pushups.

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Will gaining the uniform increase the chances to get qt3.14 gf even if i am a total sperg?

>>33803064

If you're fucking, then you're probably fucking. If you're not fucking, then you're probably not fucking.

>>33801848
idk how it works for officers (assuming thats what you wanted to do) but i remember those being difficult to get. my recruiter told me the only way i would get one would be to go open general

>>33803026
youll need to run more than a mile for every branch. also whats your situps like

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>>33803100
No problem long distance, I do lots of backpacking and hiking. Also 50 situps in a minute.

My mile and a half time is excellent but I'm only probationary on pushups and below probationary on curl ups. If you request a bad day PRT what are the odds they give it to you, is it automatic? I might need another week of training to get my curl ups up to probationary

>>33790640
>want to enlist
>have had asthma since childhood
>wat do

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What do y'all think of my brand preferences? Think they'll notice I picked all six combat arms as my first six haha?

>>33803094
Would asvab score make a difference? I got a 96 in high school and recruiters wouldn't ever leave me alone

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>>33803090

>>33803218

Just start fucking, then you'll probably be fucking.

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What's the best place to get stationed in the coast guard?

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Which military job will result in me being surrounded by the most obnoxious cunts on Earth?

>>33803368
Navy

>>33803026
This is the kind of shit you should be able to find out on your own man. Literally google what you posted and you'll find the reqs.

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German Bundeswehr reporting in

How you doin anglofags?

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I'm going to college in the fall, is it too late to sign up for ROTC? I'm looking to go 11A after school

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>Its a "Black SNCO tells its life story about "escaping frum duh hood" and how being a SNCO makes him a success"
>he thinks he's inspiring anyone with this

Do senior enlisted genuinely believe anyone sees them as an "inspiration"?

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>>33803500
biste zeit oder berufssoldat?

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What's wrong with nukes?

Future nuke here awaiting ship date

Dat bonus

>>33803158
Withhold and then die while at boot camp

>>33803709
Protip: there's a reason they have to give people bonuses to take those jobs.

>>33803673
Zeit, offz

du?

>>33803737
But there's always the thing with the educations, career opportunities after, working on a fucking nuclear reactor. Being around like minded nerds, and that fucking extra pay

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>>33803764
bin kein deutscher, habe aber vor meine grundausbildung zu machen.
pic related

>>33803836
topkek ihr habt eine armee die mehr als ein meme ist?

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>>33803879
Luxemburger Armee:
-Besatzungsmacht in Deutschland
-Einsatz im Koreakrieg
-Einsätze im Kosovo
-Afghanistan seit 2001

>>33803979
Ich werde hier nicht erwähnen, wie oft ihr von uns besetzt wart aber zumindest habt ihr die besseren Gewehre

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>>33803505
>ROTC
>11A

>>33804031

Not that anon but goarmy.com says its entry level? Whatever that means.

I am considering 37A also with ROTC... am i fucked?

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>>33804027
das g-36 ist doch ganz ok?

>>33804161
Schon aber die AUG ist definitiv besser - außer vllt in der Nachladegeschwindigkeit

"Großherzoglicher Operator" klingt außerdem ziemlich badass lol

>>33804264
g36 wird bestimmt früher oder später durch das HK416 oder HK433 ersetzt

>>33791049
If you're smart and they tell you to be a nuke, don't be a nuke. The money isn't worth it according to my nuke buddies. If you want to make rank and get paid, don't be an HM unless you're abso-fucking-loutely sure you'll be hot shit 100% of the time. If you like free time, being treated well, and don't want to be blasted with maximum pain pepper spray during A-school, don't be an MA. If you want to be treated like a real sailor and don't want to be doing bitchwork most of your career, don't join any rate in the Supply division (i.e. LS, CS). DON'T EVER BE UNDESIGNATED. If MEPS tries to screw you and say that's all they have, tell them to fuck themselves and come back another time. No one will give you shit for it.

Basically, go Combat Systems rates. ITs (satellite comms and keyboard monkies), ETs (wire biting electronics monkies), and ICs (fucks with radios and telephones in a ship) are the way to go. I can really only vouch fully for ITs because I am one. If you go IT, ask for a fucking C-School god damn it. You make E4 right off the bat when you get to your real command and you're more likely to get put where you want to go.

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>>33800263
This is fucking recruiter bait the steer people away from OCS/OTS, I've heard it several times.

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What's it like as leg infantry in army during peacetime

>>33802319
Just what the fuck do they expect me to do in battle?
Kill the enemy

>>33804865
Aw man, I forgot my meme arrow

>>33796100
no

Can someone type out what it's like as a Air Force cyber/Intel? Most of the jobs I'm going to try to enlist as are in this category.

Is it a bunch of nerds? Is it white and male dominated or female and non-white dominated? Do you consider your job exciting, are you in it because you like tech or because it will get you a good contracting job later on?

Don't know if thread is dead now or not, but someone please respond.
>going into senior year of HS
>could start basic a year early for ANG
>could easily ROTC
>almost poor family, so need cheap-free college
>Want to be civilian physics/math PhD
>Dream of being in DARPA
>can run 2 mi in 12 minutes, 30 sit ups, and can do 30 push-ups rested
WHAT DO PLEASE HELP SENPAI

>>33805230

I have been told that it's about 50% chicks, but that might not be true.

>>33805251
>almost poor
What scholarships/grants have you put in for?
>UH UH
Stop typing and start Googling, you cunt.

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>>33805262
Ah shit I'm not joining to deal with fucking woman problems. Where can I bro out with other men in the Air Force?

>>33805251
Other than the run are those physical results supposed to be impressive?

>>33805267
Recommendations? That's why I considered ANG, for free schools in OH.

>>33805286
No, just want to know if i'd die in basic

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>>33805279
>men
>air force

Enjoy your wide hips and high estrogen levels

>>33805279

The other half is super nerdy, and that's just what I've heard. Idk if it's true.

I feel like I'm doing the crunches for the Navy wrong, I keep failing out at like 30

>>33805330
no, strength to weight ratio just goes down the toilet compared to 16yr old you

>>33805373
I'm only 20. Pretty fucking nervous desu, got into NUPOC a couple months ago and I was in horrible fucking shape, still in bad shape and I have a PRT this week. If I fail I think it's a other than honorable and my life would basically be ruined. It's obviously my fault for joining the program when I was in bad shape but I'm nervous

>>33805279
in the marines

or the army

even the navy

hell anywhere but the air force

>>33805653
you get that sort of discharge for poor behavior, not being a fat turd. you'll be fine when they kick you out, don't stress.

What's an aviation officer doing most of the time? I assume you won't be flying, but is it really just endless paperwork or some shit?

>>33805846
officers ride desks. if you want to fly as much of your career as you can, go warrant.

>>33805844
i'm only barely over the minimum weight, i just have never worked out before. I really want to serve so if I got kicked out I'd keep training until I was in better condition and then enlist.

thanks

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>physically fit
>122 IQ
>looked into army. no
>looked into marines, maybe
>looked into air force, meh
>looked into navy. fuck yeah
>denied all
>asthmatic since infancy despite it being controlled
>fuck me

perhaps in another timeline, as they say.

>>33805896
Well, that blows. Is it possible to transition from O to WO?

>>33805967
O1 through O-3 flies missions. O-4 is where it all stops but by then you'll be mid-30s.

>>33805949
Join the Border Patrol, obviously.

>>33805782
You sure there's not one field in Air Force that's dominated by men?

>>33806008
That doesn't sound awful.

>>33806114
pj's, maybe.

>>33806123
it doesn't sound like you really want to fly.

If I waxed my facial hair before basic, would it take some pressure off of my morning routine for the first week?

>>33806114

In life you're going to be dealing with women. That's just a reality. Get used to it sooner than later, and develop skills needed to work with them while you're young and flexible enough to learn.

Also there are no women in SOF in the Air Force yet.

>>33806153
Yes. I've even considered laser removal.

>>33806139
>>33806183
You're right, I knew that. Thanks

>>33806152
I do, but it isn't really life-defining.

What officer specialty has the least amount of paperwork?

>>33806870
none

>>33806870

>officer
>avoiding paperwork

I have bad news for you son. Officers are all inherently administrators, and as such they have to do paperwork.

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What's up with protein in urine?

I know there's a test at MEP's but I bought my own test and some days I have none at all, and others my urine has kidney failure levels of protein in it

>>33791440

STGs are cheesedick as fuck. STS here, we have to be proficient in both maintenance of the system and operation of it. Not difficult really, but STGs specialize in one or the other. I've met first class STGs who have never sat at a stack at any point in their career, they just did maintenance on the systems and that's it. Met a few who did the complete opposite.

Surface sonar is pretty lame but it's whatever. If you choose it, just remember any US sub you ever see is only being seen because it is allowing you to see it.

>>33806957
Dehydration can cause this

>>33804450

What this guy said regarding nukes. Submariner here, half of our boat is nukes, every one of them is miserable. Nobody, I repeat, nobody gets any sort of satisfaction out of being a nuke. The guys who aren't absolute autists (probably only two or three who could pass as normal in all of engineering) have a unique ability to block out suffering and just grind it out until the next day. Some guys show up normalish but become autistic because you're surrounded by autism. When all faggots do is talk about WoW and pokemon go all day long that faggotry is gonna rub off on you.

Nukes do more bullshit work, are scrutinized to a ridiculous extent, work longer hours, and coners will pretty much never respect you because you are forever the dumbest person in the world the second you sign a nuke contract.

The whole "highest suicide rate out of any job in the military" thing is not a myth btw. Nukes very regularly off themselves, especially while in the training pipeline once they realize there is no light at the end of the tunnel for nukes. At all.

AE3 in the Navy here
I have an associates degree in IT and 2 years left before I'm out.

I have the intent on commissioning to be a pilot but I'm going to be 27 in 2 years. The officer ascension instruction says that's the age limit with a 24 month waiver for prior active duty. I would be pushing that when I finish my bachelor's.

What are my options to make this easier or what tips should I know going forward?

>>33806183
Speaking of Air Force SOF, is that just a meme sold to high schoers? I know there are six of those jobs, 3 of which require ridiculous 500m swim times.
Are SOWT, SERE, and EOD also memes and impossible to get into?

>>33806888
Are officers on submarines the same way? They sell it as having more operational stuff

>>33799963
Ask /pol/

>>33807610
According to pol war with Korea is perpetually 12 hours away

>>33807655
they believe anything that is pro-Russia/Syria or means war is coming soon and ignore everything else

Recruiter sent me the pre asvab test thing, scored an 85, went to meps to verify score, had to retake whole test, scored a 64. I was wanting to get combat engineer for my mos. Should I be good or am I fucked?
GT was 112, don't remember CO but it was pretty high. This is for the Army btw

Guys I have this fear that I'm going to do poorly on the ASVAB, I did 74 on the practice version at recruiters office. I feel like if I get anything below a 90 I won't be eligible for the jobs I want.. halp

>>33807792
Study

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Are Forward Observers 13F or 19D? Is there a lot of difference between the two?

>>33804152
What that anon is saying is that 11A is rare for ROTC. A large proportion of 11As come from USMA because a certain percentage of male USMA graduates are required to branch infantry (IIRC around 60%).

Getting 11A active duty is going to require both it to be available and you be very near the top of your class because someone else commissioning in the same cohort as you is going to pick it if the other choices are finance, admin, and logistics.

Can a foreigner get a US citizenship throught service in the US military?

Hey guys, got a question.
What's the easiest way to deal with an ingrown toenail without seeing a doctor? I took someone's advice to cut it, then found out that was probably the worst thing I could've done, and now it's growing back into my toe.
I ship out for boot camp in a little over a month

>>33808991
Yes, i think trump enabled that or there was talks about it recently that i remember

Did you get assigned where you wanted to on your Dream Sheet?

Or was your heart broken?

What branch/mos for a really sucky 4 year long primitive camping session with guns and the lads?

>>33809218
marines, 0311

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>>33808952

Interesring, thanks for the insight.

How hard is it to get into 37A? If you dont mind me asking. That would literally be a dream job for me.

>Anthropology
>Psychology
>Linguistics
>Military science
>Useful in peace time

I want it so bad ;_;

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Just saw Sand Castle. Any other movies out there about Military Intelligence?

What exactly determines if you're in the 10% that pass ranger/sf training? Is more physical endurance? Mental endurance? Or both?

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>>33807319
>Are SOWT, SERE, and EOD also memes and impossible to get into?

No SOWT is relatively new and it's been difficult to find recruits

SERE, there's a tripfag in the gear queer threads named GarandThumb who is active duty sere ask him

AF EOD, from what I've heard AF EOD is currently reforming how they train their people, the Navy seems to have the premiere EOD teams though

>>33809367
>Any other movies out there about Military Intelligence?

Are we thinking of the same movie? Because the synopsis of Sand Castle doesn't seem to have anything about MI in it.

>>33791396
THIS, FUCK POGS

>tfw waiting 2-4 years before enlisting
>tfw you'll be really out of shape and have to work extra hard to get back in shape

daniel u stoner stop play guitar hero

>>33791821
Aircrew you will be expected to fly on average 3 times a week. You will meet and work with different people throughout your career. You will take 20 months of training for aircrew roles such as Weapons Systems Operator and will qualify as a SNCO once you begin actove service. You can stay in RAF barracks, off site or subsidized accommodation or your own home provided you are close to where you are stationed.

>>33810141
Do you just sit on your fat ass and eat muffins al day?

>>33803500
>G36K
>K
>obviously the long, regular version
Wot?

>>33809459
You have to be pretty damn fit as a borderline requirement, but more importantly you have to be really fucking mentally tough. The kind of person that can keep going even when they really, really want to stop.

>>33809333

You can't branch directly into PSYOP unless you're going into the guard/reserves. You have to apply for it at a certain point in your officer career.

>>33793695
bullshit, 18x will send you down a 2 year training pipeline not including basic, airborne, and sopc. If you want want to turn sandniggers into mush ASAP you should join the muhreens or army infantry. You probably wont get your hands on a .50 bmg, but you can easily cut people into bits with a 240 or ma deuce.

>>33809467
Do you have any further information on SOWT? Looks like a great off your ass intelligence job.

I told my recruiter I'm busting my ass running and swimming and I'm gonna take the PAST, he was more than overjoyed and said there were jobs available for people with the drive to get them.

>>33810849
The only thing I really know about them is that they provide weather info to pilots and rest of military when radar site and other tech can't be set up. They also do really deep reconnaissance

>>33811562
Would you say the job is too hard for a person who is just enlisting, assuming they have average athletic endurance and strength? I'm just not sure what you mean by deep reconnaissance

>>33790640
Had a guy in boot camp with me who the drill sergeants used to pick on constantly, with insults based around his mother. They would do it because it would get a rise out of him then they would beast him into nothing.

He left one day after a break down and was med discharged from what I heard because unknown to everyone his mother was killed by a drunk driver 1 year prior. The Drill Sergeant in question also disappeared from our platoon not long after.

I say this because I heard on Facebook the guy punched his own ticket because he didn't make it in the forces.

>>33812164
Boring. Enlisted personnel have fucked up backgrounds and are mental fuckups, more news at 11.

>>33809467
>AF EOD, from what I've heard AF EOD is currently reforming how they train their people, the Navy seems to have the premiere EOD teams though

All the branches get the same training and go through the same dropout tests to get EOD qualified. AF and Navy techs get qualified with identical EOD knowledge.

Navy EOD guys get dive qualified as an additional part of working in their position, but it doesn't have anything to do with their ordnance knowledge.

Navy and AF have different priorities in their post-EOD course training based on how the different branches use their forces. Navy EOD guys get more shooter and expedient oriented training, AF get more technical courses. Both branches get a little of the other kind of training, but that's the general division of training.

It's less about "premier" and more about focus; Navy EOD guys often have trouble performing missions that require more technical finesse and knowledge to identify ordnance or use dedicated tools. Other the other hand, the Navy guys have more mark & bypass training and are outfitted to go fast.

>>33793998
Hopefully

>>33812164
I went to Marine officer school (didn't end up commissioning after I graduated) and we were constantly getting sergeant instructors plucked from platoons in our company for doing fucked up shit like this.One was directly responsible for the fall of a candidate during a night ruck where he fell face first on to some rocks because the SI was jerking back and forth on his pack. Stupid nigs can't control themselves

>>33812084
>Would you say the job is too hard for a person who is just enlisting,

Like all of AFSOC, the job and training seem to be just as physical as they are academic, don't forget SOWT are meteorologist.

Deep recon means going far into enemy territory and gathering intel often with no support at all.

>>33803026
You blow the AF fitness standards out of the water. 33 push-ups, 46 sit-ups, and like a 13 minute mile and a half. That's the minimum. Oh and 0 pull-ups I fucking shit you not

>>33803663
I mean, it is kinda inspiring

>>33805279
Join AF as security forces. Also it is about 10-15% female, not 50. But most of the guys are nerds, weebs, or autists. Not all but most.
The Army or Marines would be better if you are looking for an abundance of future hunting/drinking/fishing/camping buddies

>>33812164
Seems to be a common theme, had drill sergeants rotate like a revolving door during basic because they would do some of the most twisted shit. One read out a recruits letter that he was sent about his grandmother dying and did nothing but make fun of him for it for the whole week.

>>33812423
Security Forces sounds decent. What is that, basically police/armed guard

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>>33812594
Welcome to your life for the next 4 to 8 years.

>>33812621
Its Air Force dude, not like the other enlisted jobs or any more worthwhile.

>>33812594
They do a lot of different jobs. Like, you might end up being the equivalent of a mall cop checking IDs and patrolling the base for drunks, and then a month later you're performing prisoner transport as a sky marshal. You will deploy a lot, and have a wide variety of base options. It's a pretty nice job, you get to carry a gun, and it's not impossibly difficult. You will have exciting times and boring times.

I'm not an expert on some of the special duty type things that SecFo does, but I know you can get assigned to RAVN, CATM, and I think dagger(?)

Basically it's a respectable career choice for someone who wants to carry a gun and shoot bad guys but isn't stupid enough for the army or marines. Of course, you won't do nearly as much shooting of the bad guys as those other two branches of service.

So ya, basically police/armed guard/ mall cop/ toll booth attendant/ sky marshal/ SWAT

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>>33812621

>>33812662
>Basically it's a respectable career choice for someone who wants to carry a gun and shoot bad guys

Oh lordy, this is what Security Forces actually thinks? This is worse than Army MPs' idea of themselves.

>>33812594

They're everything from base guards who are just base guards to base guards who deploy as elite counter-sniper teams at "austere air fields" before returning to their duties as gate attendant. It runs the gamut, but the cool guy elite stuff is highly competitive and only open to people at AFSOC bases afaik.

Do you get homesick at Navy RTC? Also what if you don't sleep very well?

>>33812686
I'm not SecFo, I'm just trying to be fair and objective

>>33812686

I've been told by people who have deployed attached to both SecFo and Army Infantry that SecFo were preferable, largely due to not being literally retarded.

>>33809496
They were Civil Affairs so it's real loosely MI, but it got me thinking

>>33812594
SecFor can do a lot of different things in their career like PHOENIX-RAVEN, DAGRE, and CPET

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Need help on making choices and making plans.
Ok so I want to join the Army, but I am having a difficult time picking MOS and coming up with strategy to get /fit/ af and tough af for SF/Rangers. Out of these MOSs which is the best?: 11B Infantry, 12B Combat Engie, 35M HUMINT,

>>33813302
>Out of these MOSs which is the best?: 11B Infantry, 12B Combat Engie, 35M HUMINT,

it depends on what you personally want out your career

>>33813336
Which one would be most helpful in training for SF?

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>>33813363
probably 35M, since they have a lot of language training

>>33813302
Well when you fail selection, which do you want to do the most? 35 series is comfy with opportunities to do some operating even after you fail SF selection, so I'd do that one. You'd have to work to get yourself into school and positions to do that 35M operating, but they are there.

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I'm currently signing up for a buds contract and would appreciate any advice to prepare.

>I used to work with a supply guy for team 5 after he got out, met his friends from work when I helped him move to a different state, they happen to be instructors and we chatted and they convinced me to go and gave me their numbers.

I looked at the website and I'm reading as much info as possible, what's the best workouts to improve scores? I train 6 days a week, and shoot once a week.

>>33813336
Thats a good answer. If you want to cut grass, rake rocks, and get divorced 4 times, join the infantry. If you want to get skills to be a contractor (a builder who makes front porches, not PMC) be a 12B. If you want to have a nice white collar job where you can make good money with benefits, be a 35 series.

>>33813456
>I'm currently signing up for a buds contract and would appreciate any advice to prepare.

swim.

>>33813456
Learn to chip paint off of boats really well because when you ring that bell and you become a BM, thats gonna be a large part of your responsibility.

Seriously man, get a smart person job. Theres a reason they let so many dorks get BUD/S contracts and its not because we have thousands of active SEALs.

>>33813495
The Navy can set you up for a great career in the civilian world if you play your cards right. Statistically speaking, you will not become a SEAL. So if its just a passing fancy or whatever, I'd encourage you to take a different route that will serve you better than being a fucking BM. And be honest with yourself about how committed you are, because you'll feel like a clown when you tell everyone back home how you're "really okay with being a BM, seriously". If you are one of those real few who are serious contenders for BUD/S, go for it my man. Godspeed. But if you're a dude who runs like 4 miles every other day and can do some pushups and pull ups and you think you're probably hot shit, I'd encourage you to have a long, hard think.

>>33813531
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>>33813456

All in all, I'm not trying to be a douche by casting some doubts, but genuinely trying to give you some advice. I've known a lot of guys who tried to be operators cause it sounded cool and they really weren't cut out for it and they got stuck in a shitty, fucked up job as a result. Where they would have been much happier and successful in a less badass, but very good MOS or rate that would have set them up well for life after the military.

>>33813456

Can you easily run three miles continuously in a decent time? How do you compare to your former high school's cross country and track teams? The swim team?

If you can run about as well as those guys and swim more than passably then it's just a question of willpower and technical aptitude which are big factors as well.

>>33809134
Looks like you have to get a green card before enlisting

>>33813572
three miles is nothing man. You should be ashamed if you can't run 3 miles continuously in at the absolute bare minimum a 9 minute mile pace. Thats just as a normal fuck.

Competitive Marine OCS guys should be able to run 10 miles, with their mileage times increasing greatly as you dip further below 10. I don't know anything about BUD/S but I would hope it'd be more intensive than OCS.

>>33813531
This isn't a passing fancy, I moved to the area specifically to meet team guys and get as much knowledge and information as possible, meeting those guys from 5 wasn't on accident. I don't think of anything else, and while I've already got good info from them, if you guys have some insight I'll take it.

>>33813635

>should be able to run 10 miles

Now you're overdoing it. Three miles is good enough to say "I'm in okay shape" for an adult and if you can make time then it's good enough to meet reqs. Ten miles is college cross country tier, but you don't have to run marathons to qualify for this.

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>>33813456
learn some construction skills, about 1/5th of the other seabees in my A-school where BUDS or diver school drop outs (but really if thats what you want be committed and good luck)

>>33797446
If you're looking to go infantry the biggest difference is that the army will give you more opportunities for cool schools & promotions. The Marines also derive a lot of their pride from the corps as a whole while the army comes more from MOS & unit.

Generally the army is the better option

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Best means of studying for the ASVAB?

Haven't solved an equation since High School 6 years ago.

>>33815088
>Best means of studying for the ASVAB?
Ask your recruiter.

To the dude who was worried about failing the PRT, you'll probably do better at the actual event than your practice runs since you're gonna have adrenaline running through you and if you fail pushups/curl ups then frankly your partner or CFL are just being dicks

unless you're just a fat cunt, the CFL doesn't want to fail you esp. if it's not a failure that will get you admin sep'd because it means more work for them since you enter FEP

I start basic tomorrow lads

I'm scared

>>33815775
pluck your facial hair, then you'll have an extra minute to shower instead of shave

>>33815876
How often do they make you shower because I hate it, I only shower like once a month atm

>>33815965
not in military but I can't imagine it's any less than once a day

>>33815965
don't be this person

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>>33815088

I am on the same boat, only that i graduated from highschool 10 years ago... to be fair, American educational systen seems laughtable as far as i have seen (at least from what the asvab questionnaire portrait)

If i get my english vocabulary right i should be way more than fine.

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Can someone tell me about Air Force SOWT? What's their job like? Training? How easy is it to get a SOWT contract as prior service? Thanks in advance.