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China launches 2nd aircraft carrier

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-military-carrier-idUSKBN17S06B

>China launched its first domestically built aircraft carrier on Wednesday amid rising tension over North Korea and worries about Beijing's assertiveness in the South China Sea.

>State media has quoted military experts as saying the carrier, China's second, is not expected to enter service until 2020, once it has been kitted out and armed.

Inevitable comparisons to US/UK carriers aside, how should this compare with their first carrier?

Still seems based off the Kuznetsov design of the Liaoning, so what (if anything) is different?
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A FUCKING RAMP
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>>33768295
No, the first one had that too.
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>>33768280
It rooks wicked
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>>33768280

The only thing that matters on a carrier is total capacity... and this carrier fails at it. Sortie rate and sustainment is a meme.

Who gives a shit about how capable your aircraft are this is why we shouldn't have shit like the f-35b/c having 100 f-18 or f-14 will always win in a fight from numbers alone. Having our America class so small makes them shit and embarssing...
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>>33768280
This and their current ones are light carriers, at most they will use it to defend their home territory, no more

2021's type 002 is what I'd be interested in, and 2024's type 003
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>>33768280
>liaonings mess hall
>has the same pictures and aestetics of many chinese buffets.

Pretty cool. Do they eat better than the army? Army cooks all they had were tons bricks of dried noodles and old cauldrons.
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Pretty much just an updated design of what they had already to save time. Still inferior to anything Nimitz/Ford, QE, CdG and maybe even Cavour.

We'll see what they do with the next one which should be a completely new design.
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>>33768280
trump: chyna get bent
china: i got you senpai
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>>33768280
Its a missel battelship with carrier abiletys. Pretty gud.

It can stand its ground on its own.
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The Type 001A Carrier (this one, believed to be named Shandong) is a slight improvement over the Type 001 Carrier (Liaoning). The Ramp is angled 12 degrees rather than 14 degrees like the Liaoning allowing for better take offs. The Soviet obsession with antiship missiles on carriers was removed making space for about 8-12 more J-15s (once again, Flanker knock-offs based on a T-10K-3 Su-33 prototype bought from Ukraine). The Tower was redesigned for better angling of the AESA radar. Probably some improvements here or there to the propulsion but really it's an incremental improvement. It should be ready for service late 2019 or early 2020.
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>>33768379
You thinking about original Admiral Kuznetsov.

Chinks cut out missile launchers and turn it into normal light carrier.
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How many aircraft can carry?
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>godless heathens built a thing
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>>33768280
>2017
>Earth bound warfare
When are we going to space to at least fight some Ayys?
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>>33768449
Probably not more than 36.
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>>33768280
Why the fuck does it have a ramp?
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>>33768349


Yeah, because launch system is irrelevant and aircraft capacity of fuel/munitions is irrelevant. Also aircraft type. Also AWACS not being airplanes but helicopters, de facto limiting your sight in open waters to 300km rather than 800km.

The 45k ton De Gaulle is pretty much the best Aircraft Carrier Class after the Nimitz (and well Ford) simply because it is CATOBAR, which means fixed wing AWACS, fast launches on 2 catapults and hugely increased payloads.
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>>33768280
I'm going to laugh so hard if China tries to discipline North Korea so we don't get involved and NK sinks this thing.
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>>33769390
>I'm going to laugh so hard if China tries to discipline North Korea

That's extremely unlikely. If it comes down to military action, they'll probably just use their massive army to seal off the borders and prevent Nork refugees from spilling in. We're more likely to start shit at this point, and even then it's a longshot no matter what the media tries to sell us.
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>>33769390
>China tries to discipline North Korea so we don't get involved and NK sinks this thing
That would never happen.

NK won't bite the hand that feeds it, they like making noise to get attention but if they push it too much, China would just replace the regime.

China wouldn't actually intervene militarily with a carrier, they'd do just the same thing as CIA, engineer an internal crisis then orchestrate a coup. If there was to be a military intervention, which is unlikely, it would be infantry. Their planes wouldn't even need to launch from a carrier, they could just use land bases right next door.

And Chinese subs are likely decades more sophisticated than NK subs so it's not getting sunk anyway.
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>>33768280
Is this actually intended for operations or is it just practice/training/development like the one they bought from Russia
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>>33768295
Fuck me, its Sherlock fucking Holmes.

what incredible powers of observation you have.
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>>33768280
They seem to have added some flags.
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