Let's have a thread about ekranoplans and their usage in hypothetical warfare. Image is of the soviet MD-160, a Lun-class ekranoplan
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This is way too cool and interesting for modern/k/ and I worry your thread isn't going to get a lot of attention, but I digress.
I wonder if there have been any ground effect torpedoes? Wouldn't they be faster than comparable ones in the water without the expense and difficulty of hypercavitation?
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A little info about the MD-160:
>cruising speed of 280mph
>range of over 1200 miles
>as long as a football field
>can carry 1000 marines
>flies just above the surface of the water and cant be found on radar
>can carry 50% more weight than a plane of equal size using 50% less fuel
>>33765095
So why don't we have a network of these for transatlantic cargo?
>>33765244
it can't take off in choppy water
>>33765172
Oh great.
It can do what a sub can do, but worse.
It can do what an amphib can do, but worse.
Uhhhh.
>>33765340
can't Wing in Groundeffect over anything other than light seas.
>>33765405
This, otherwise would have been a big threat to carriers.
>>33765179
>Needs a co-copilot to push all the levers forwards
>>33765583
flight engineer
>>33765095
How does it take turns?
>>33765919
Well it takes right ones, and it takes left ones
>>33765172
Less insulting answer:
It would need smooth water to function, and would probably need to be launched from the surface.
>>33765172
>I wonder if there have been any ground effect torpedoes?
I mean, at what point does it just become a missile though?
>>33765535
it WAS a big threat to carriers when it was built. It exploited the vulnerability of contemporary carrier radar being hard-pressed to ID and track a very fast object flying very low. The idea was that it would sneak up to you and slap your ass with Sunburns before you really had any time to respond.
>>33765226
>MD-160
>cruising speed of 280 mph
>top speed: 340 mph
>range of over 1200 miles
>weight: 286,000 kg
>combat load: 24000 kg (6x SS-N-22 )
>Tu-160
>cruising speed of 600 mph
>top speed: 1375 mph
>range of over 6800 miles
>weight: 110,000 kg
>combat load: 45000 kg
What went wrong with ekranoplan?
>>33765244
>1200 miles
>transatlantic
Gee, i wonder why...
>>33767714
>has 50 km weapons range
>top speed of 340 mph
>is somewhat threat to CBG with Aegis, E-2 and F-14
And this is why the US never bothered with them.
>>33765172
>This is way too cool and interesting for modern/k/
It's only interesting as an example of spectacular craft design failure.
It never had even a remote chance of being useful at all, but the absolute madmen still went ahead with it because the byro liked hueg things.
>>33766612
The idea would be that it's a torpedo that can't be detected by sonar, and a missile that's very hard to detect by radar. I don't know if Aegis can deal with a missile flying that low.
>>33767865
Turned out we never hit peak oil and fuel efficiency wasn't nearly as important as people thought it'd be. These were produced at the same time as the Geo Metro for reference
>>33767865
Flying at 4 meter above the water one wrong maneuver and you're minced meat
>>33768409
>ekranoplan
>fuel efficiency
Pick one.
>>33765095
Damn. It pretty crazy that back then Russians could create entirely new type of aircraft.
But now they struggling with creating new fighter.
>>33768422
...no? One of the big points of ground effect vehicles is that they're fuel efficient. They go twice as far carrying twice as much as a comparable cargo transport on the same amount of fuel.
I've wondered about their use as aircraft carriers. Could they effectively launch or land any type of plane (except helos) with no runway?
>>33768548
>They go twice as far carrying twice as much as a comparable cargo transport on the same amount of fuel.
What ekranoplan does that again?
>>33767892