Middle East General / Syria war

>>33756570

It makes more sense that the RuAF would focus their resources in Hama/Idlib/Daraa as of present, they have the head choppers on the run.

SDF seem to have things under control with IS in the north with US assistance so I don't see why the Russians would get involved.

So US backed factions are going to take both Raqqa and Mosul? That has to be some sort of moral victory; we might have cocked it up every chance we got, but we're still capturing the big objectives

>>33756570
Does the SDF have any media of getting close to Raqqa? Also do they have the strength/logistics to carry out a sustained siege? From what I remember the SDF was always one of the least well-equipped factions in the Syrian Civil War.

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In Iraq, the furious boar killed three militants IS.

>>33756628
I still doubt it. Raqqa is large and at this point well fortified. I mean they just don't have the material and especially manpower that was thrown in to capture eastern Aleppo or especially Mosul. Just letting the USAF level the place would work I guess but I doubt they're willing to go that far.

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>BRTTTTTTTTTTTT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl5Kc6paPbs

>>33756628
>SDF
>poorly equipped
>2017
I don't think so Tim. Trump has diverted all the arms shipments from jihadists to the SDF

>>33756570

The imminent threat to the Syrian state is lawless province of Idlib run by garden variety Jihadists and criminals, and being flaunted by the Anglo-Zionist agents of regime change as an argument against the legitimacy of Assad's rule. Of course, they ignore than over 80% of the Syrian population is under Assad and largely support him.

So Idlib must be crushed and the Jihadists routed, and the Western proxies operating alongside Nusra Front destroyed and executed or exiled.

Once this threat is eliminated, they can pick off ISIS at their leisure.

>>33757566
I want this to be the truth; do you have sources?

>>33756593
All part of Trumps 30 day plan to defeat ISIS. Nobody knows when the first day of the plan is though.

what happens once isis is defeated? does the sdf and friends move west?

>>33757905

They become the security forces of the Kurdish autonomous region in Syria.

Friendly reminder to keep the the thread on topic about weapons, developments and tactics.

Mods have had to delete the threads a lot recently due to them developing into /pol/

>>33758358
>arabs
>capable of tactics

>>33757565
>wait for the BRTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>no BRTTTTTTTTTTTT
wtf i hate russians now

Not sure if this has already been mentioned. A splinter group of Paki Taliban blew up a minibus in northwestern tribal Pakistan with an road bomb. 14 dead. The newslet did not mention if the target was military or civilian.

Also, SOHR claims TurkAF killed 18 people in strikes in Syria. The targets were, quote, 'kurdish militia' in northeastern Syria.

>>33758358

>Being a timid lil' faggot

Why don't you simply migrate to Reddit? Take the cuckold mods with you.

>>33758436
>cuckold mods
haha! what a good meme you posted there
i love memes too

>>33758436
I'm trying to help keep the threads up instead of being deleted so that we can continue to enjoy them.

Meanwhile, you're contributing to the problem. We were consistently enjoying good threads until the cruise missile attack brought and influx of /pol/ and the quality of the discussion dropped dramatically.

>>33758475
>I'm trying to help keep the threads up instead of being deleted so that we can continue to enjoy them.


No, you're trying to enforce faggotry. Be advised that homosexuality, Kike-propaganda and cuckoldry are poorly tolerated here, no matter what the mods think.

>>33758505
nice more me-mes
post more

IS executed 15+ people in Mosul today.

>>33758505
Whatever you say, Cleetus

>>>/pol/

>>33756628
>do they have the strength/logistics to carry out a sustained siege?
They'll go for as much of an encirclement as they can get, but for the time being I don't see IS being quite weak enough to let themselves get entirely cut off there yet. It's not like it's a city they consider theres so they don't need to even try that hard to take it at all, they're mostly fighting there because the US is pushing for them too, to earn good kid points with Assad for the negotiating table at some point down the road, and of course a bit because they do hate IS as well. As far as the wider picture is concerned they're doing enough simply by being there creating another front IS have to think about and commit resources to defend, keeping them from being elsewhere and having freedom of movement.

>>33757905
As it stands there's not really much they can do, unless there's a breakout by the "moderate" headloppers from Idlib the only 2 entities they could head west and have a front to fight would be the Turks or SAA. Whilst I'm sure they would both love to go fight the Turks and could fuck their shit up a fair bit at least for a while, giving Erdogan a nice excuse to go full retard on them would be a bad move They would also lose the vast bulk of the US help they get at present because as much as Turkey has done a great job pissing everyone off it's unlikely even Trump would want to entirely alienate a country that still occupies a strategically important spot. Fighting the SAA again would be an even worse move, the Kurds only hope long term of any kind of 'state' as a semi-autonomous region of Syria will come from the negotiating table once other business is concluded, going on a full scale offensive against Assad would scupper any chance of that ever happening, not to mention ultimately being another fight that they'd be likely to lose in the long run.

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I incurred the wrath of the vatniks after posting multiple ATGM strikes last time in a failed rebel attempt to slow down the large Russian backed SAA offensive in northern Hama but that said their volume of ATGM use was and still is relevant.

The first are the current one's outside various outskirts around Halfaya and Lataminah with Lataminah being the focus of the SAA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTChP27upQ
Bulldozer was the target.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL9jgRt-h4g
T-72

Now rolling back to early yesterday on of the most devastating TOW strikes I have seen on infantry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fFezK_fCsk

I can't even begin to understand the stupidity of this group of soldiers walking down a road in board daylight with no clear dispersion.

>>33758941
>I can't even begin to understand the stupidity of this group of soldiers walking down a road in board daylight with no clear dispersion.
Arabs.
I especially liked the 2 at the front who appear to just stand there like "shiiiieeeeet" afterwards rather than any attempt to take cover or anything.

>>33757837
>That delusional confirmation bias.

Nigger, OIR has been doing its magic since the Kobani siege in late-2014.

>>33759093
>rather than any attempt to take cover or anything.
Or help some of their mates that are lying on the ground heavily wounded. Many of them should've survived the initial blast.

>>33758358
Mods have nothing to do with this thread dying regularly. Interest simply dropped off sharply after the hysteria of the Tomahawk strikes deflated. Not to mention most of the attention has been redirected to the Norks' nuclear sabre rattling for about a week or so.

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>>33758941
Step and a rebel group claim heavy fighting/counter attack on checkpoints in this area tonight. VBIED plus artillery have been used along with continued heavy airstrikes.

Also heavy SAA shelling in western Aleppo and Al Eis. Possible night fighting by both sides.
Should be a interesting morning coming up.

Pic is DIY anti material rifles for sale in Idlib by a custom rifle maker as a new twitter has been posting market prices of various arms floating around Syria.

>>33758941
Kinda makes me wonder how many bodies a TOW warhead could blast through....

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>>33758358
>>33759175
I diagree with both of you. There's simply nothing going on worthy of discussing anymore. The threads were very active with Aleppo going on, and there was a decent surge of activity following the Hama offensive, chemical attack and tomahawk strike, but right now Assad is just slowly grinding out rebel pockets.
Once things start heating up and larger pockets start collapsing the thread will become more active again.
And there's always more crossboard traffic after major media events, the thread turns to shit for a little while until the retards get tired, and then things go on as before.

>>33758941
Most of the ATGM-tapes are by rebels and IS-like factions, right? Are there any clips showing them being used on the US/Iraqi front?

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>>33759203
Babbies first cannon

>>33759267
IS has used a ton of ATGMs on the Iraqi army. Is this babbies first mid east thread?

>>33756570
Oh wow you sure got them mister 4channer!

Let's wait till the Kurds actually make it to Raqqa before we start LE YOU GOT PWNED NOOBBB HEHAHA

>>33759257
why do you think these threads are only about syria and assad? go away

>>33759268
Lmao suicide bomber in 10 years

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>>33759268
ASG-17 on the market. New out the box. Ammo is probably costly though.

>>33759284
Yeah should have specified a bit. I've seen a lot of attacks against Iraqi forces, them being incompetent and all that. Was more curious about ATGM attacks against the US forces in the area. Haven't heard about any such incidents or attempts so far, but i'd imagine IS would want to try it if they could

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>>33759350
More the everyday man weapon, a Papa shah for sale cheap , 250 $.

>>33759350
>New AGS-17: $ 1500
>Ammo: $200 per box
>Losing it to rebel forces on the first day: Priceless

>>33759303
These threads are de facto about Syria. One in 50 posts are about Iraq, and one in 1000 or less about yemen/egypt/libya.

>>33756570
Is it bad if I ask for a short fill-in for what happened since the chemical attack thingy? thanks

>>33759445
SAA cucked the Rebels in North Hama.

Rebels responded with TOW spam.

4 town agreement occurred. SAA honored their side of the agreement.

Nusra VBIED'd the shia civilians and killed 130 of them LMAOOOOOO HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHHH and only the Pope cared in Western media

SAA minor gains in the Ghouta pockets.

Minor Mansoursh FSA gains in Daraa

Minor FSA gains against ISIS in southeast Syria


Minor Kurdish gains

Shenanigans between butthurt turks and kurds

>>33759246

If it's a direct hit it's one person and anyone directly behind the plasma jet. Otherwise just burns and deafness.

What's hilarious is that ATGMs have been around since the 70s and the SAA have been fighting for 6 years and they have not come to understand how these things seem to work or even make any vague attempts to develop countermeasures or tactics.

>>33759502
>Nusra VBIED'd the shia civilians and killed 130 of them LMAOOOOOO HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHHH and only the Pope cared in Western media
how old are you? serious question, no need to lie

>>33759592
While nobody knows who actually bombed the Shia buses HTS is still a suspect being there was some rumbling on the non IS rebel side of being at the whims of Qatar. I do think IS was more likely but to count out Nusra is being blind to their sneaky and brutal tactics.

>>33759592
I'm laughing at how Western media practically completely ignored something objectively worse than the chemical attack.

>>33759555
To be fair, neither does anyone else in that shithole

>>33759767
i didn't ask you that

>>33759802
20.

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>>33759793

Muslims are so fucking useless and fatalistic. They make no attempt to survive or become more effective because of their stunted religion.

>>33758559
They're really trying to get in as many of those as possible before that little pocket still left in Mosul is splattered, aren't they?

American authorities have now voiced "deep concern" over Turkish AF attacks on kurdish targets in Iraq and Syria.

Anyone else doubt Erdogan will have trouble sleeping tonight?

>>33759767
What western country are you talking about? BBC and my home news network had massive coverage of this

>>33758394
They could have waited for a real bus and killed hundreds, perhaps thousands.

>>33760005
it's beginning to look like he didn't consult America at all before doing this. SDF are now making noises about halting Raqqa operations if Turkey strikes again. Trump needs to give Erdogan a spanking.

>>33760331

Hard to say what the point was. The newsline I quoted was only one sentence long. Maybe the bus was full of cops or local militia, or tribal leadership. Pakistani taliban are pursuing entirely different goals than the afghan ones, and are directly at war with the Paki govt. Even blowing up the school bus would have a point if it was aimed at terrifying the locals.

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>Dem slippy nub feels!

Palmyra silos

http://video.amqagn.at/v/fts25042017.mp4

>>33760338
Come to think about it, would booting out Turkey from NATO actually lead them to align to Russia in exchange for unrestrained Russian naval movement to and from the Black Sea?

>>33763138

I am not sure Russia is all that eager for Turkey to join them. For one thing Erdogan's greatest goal is to take back northern Syria. For another, Turkey are still EU members and if that breaks apart as well, then Russia will itself busy right and left sorting out all the refugee and economy woes Turkey has.

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>Hurricane north ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG68xrKy1II

>>33756570
do westerners who go to fight in syria get war brides? i can't get a girl in canada but i'd be willing to try my luck in syria

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>>33763897
nah

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>>33763878

Holy crap. Obama's Jihad-niggers got absolutely BTFO by Suheil and his Tigers.

Impressive application of firepower and maneuver.

>>33763897
>do westerners who go to fight in syria get war brides?
no, most are ugly as fuck from inbreeding. 90% of pretty eastern women have been shaved and plucked to near death. But also no, because i dont think you have much time to fuck around with them and if they fucked around with you they would get stoned to death.

but when they are pretty they arent middle eastern, they are Caucasian or Mediterranean.

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>>33759679

>While nobody knows who actually bombed the Shia buses

Only an actual dilettante or a pro-Jihad propagandist like yourself would make a breathtakingly stupid comment like that.

It's perfectly clear what the purpose of the attack was. Which group is entirely meaningless, since the entire Idlib salient is a hive of extremist, Wahhabite villainy and scum that any civilized nation would seek to exterminate. The stupid acronyms you swear by and use to feign some sort of insight are meaningless and change by the day. Most of these are just criminal rackets that show up for US money to fight Assad and then fuck off and sell the weapons.


The attacks on the civilians in the buses were an expression of frustration by the Idlib Al Qaeda at the fact that fighters were willing to make deals with the government, seeing it as legitimate organ to deal with if not having love for it.

ISIS rekt by boars: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/04/25/wild-boars-overrun-islamic-state-position-kill-3-militants/100876844/

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>>33766352

>>33756570

Probably because they want to keep their forces intact for the inevitable conflict against "moderate rebel" groups that don't want to disband after the conflict with IS ends.

>>33763215
>Turkey are still EU members
Not true, they're part of the wannabe club loitering on the fringes, although how much they even want in any more is itself doubtful. A big part of the deal to get them to do anything at all to secure their borders and slow down the flow of refugees was the 'restarting' of the process for them to work towards joining which had all but died, and frankly is still entirely dead because nobody except the most extreme left wingers wants them in the EU and all the reasons for anyone to consider it in the past have evaporated.

>>33759679
If IS committed the bombing they would had gleefully declare that they did it within a couple of days after the bombing. But we got dead silence, which would be more in line with HTS' more snake-like demeanor.

>>33763215
People have pointed out that Russia's half-assed about their commitment in Syria. Just about the only strategic importance in Syria for Russia is coastal naval port access to the Mediterranean, and that stake would be rendered pointless if Turkey offers free passage for the Black Sea Fleet through the Bosporus in exchange for closer ties. That way Turkey gets their roach way with Syria, and Russia wins easier naval access to the Mediterranean.

>>33767111
Russia already has a free passage because of Treaty of Montreaux. Imo it's about Assad saying no to gas pipeline from gulf states to europe.

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Sources: Russian ground troops are ready to enter Syria&waiting for Assad's permission

>>33760058
>massive coverage

I saw exactly one short story on BBC.

Oh, and American news. Didn't see one story on tv
Only the Pope crying about it.

>>33767111
>>33767260
>partially correct answer
>meme answer

The reality is that Russia is doing its intervention on a shoestring budget.
98% of the reason it intervened was to make the US butthurt and to increase Russian geopolitical influence in the Middle East.

>>33760005
No, he is doing what he should have been doing for months now. If US isn't going to give a shit about Turkish concerns he shouldn't give a shit about American ones ether. Turkey should focus of decapitation strikes against YGP in Syria, target leaders, bases, key infrastructure. I mean WTF is US going to do? Express deep concern. Obama fucked up and now Turmp has to clean up his mess, but I don't see a way he can do it.

>>33767821

Yep.

Pope was the only notable figure in the West dedicate even 5 minutes to it.

All of the other treacherous media are following the regime change (((narrative))).

>>33763897

The version I have heard is that if you are with the kurdish YPG, the first thing you are told is to stay away from kurdish women. Not that I can think of any muslim group whatsoever anywhere that welcome western and/or christian men into their family ranks. It never seems to be an issue the other way, somehow.

>>33768439
I'd love to go out their with my western training, strong jawline, great accent and amazing body to show up all those mudslime mustache wearing savages
Then I could make all the kurd bitches get that cotton fever and lust after the stronk smart white man
Then I'd go home and have non homosexual sex with a man because I hate women

>>33767821

Here in Scandinavia the story had top billing in media for several days. I guess it cooled down fast mostly for lack of anyone to blame it on.

Media in general. Used to be the news outlets all had journalists running around with cameras around the Middle East. Then they donned helmets and vests at some point, and got fewer. Now I am hard pressed to think of ANY major western news organisation reporting from the fronts. I guess it simply got too expensive to keep the teams moving, after the security minimum went beyond a handful of lightly armed local mercs.

My PERSONAL idea of when it really changed, was was when a group of 'journalists' were allowed to make a TV interview in Afghanistan with one of the North Alliance leaders - and the big camera turned out to be full of C4. That interview blew, to put it carefully. If you are somebody who matters on those front lines, what journalists or their armed guards would YOU trust?

>>33768329

Funny you should mention it. Today was reported that Turkey has arrested over a 1000 Gülen-supporters over the last few days.

>>33768469
Fucking source that sounds retarded, why would they want to assassinate their ally at the time?

>>33768452

Heh. Hate to break it to you but the Middle East is not lacking for handsome men. And they have universities there too. The issue you should consider is being alone and naked in a building with people who might consider your life a sellable asset. Mind you, I would sleep like a baby surrounded by YPG fighters knowing I was a political and marketing asset to them. But the kurds have no less a sense of family honor than the rest of the middle east. And hey, if you thought their religious convictions were strong you should try fucking around with someone's daughter.

I generally like middle eastern people. There is strength there, in many areas. And weaknesses, by all means. Don't underestimate them just because their armies are weaker than ours.

>>33768480

I guess I should have mentioned that the journalists were taliban. The North Alliance fought them tooth and nail.

Here's the actual story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud#Assassination

>>33768523
I'm surprised this anon doesn't know. AQ was actually said to have a hand in the bombing; the timing of the killing was also deliberately set a couple days before 9/11 in an attempt to tie up loose ends before the anticipated America-led invasion into Afghanistan.

>>33767821
And i saw a bunch. Not sure what else to tell you, but that thing dominated the news for quite a few days here.

>>33768539

In this case I am honestly not sure. This was back when taliban, AQ, Paki ISI and other groups were working toward common goals and did each other favor and coordinated things.

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>>33768474
US commander with HPG( armed wing of PKK) commander visiting the place Turks bombed. US honestly doesn't have a lag to stand on to bitch to Turkey about being a good allay.

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>>33768768
Proof of PKK

>>33768768

Did I understand that correctly? A US commander visited sites IN Turkey with PKK/HPG? The US visiting anywhere with PKK - whom they have declared as a terrorist organization iirc - is of course a story either way.

>>33768842
The bombing was in Syria. But It's the same fucking guy.

ISIS - Palmyra Silos

Killed 10, 3 captured, 2 captured are child solider, one 15 years old.

Turkey is on the verge of invading north Syria. Things are popping off today. It's time to see how the US reacts to Erdogan's aggression. The next couple of days will be big.

>>33769362

That's a pretty bold prediction. What are you basing it on?

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Hopefully I won't incur the wrath of vatniks as I see mostly good signs for the SAA in eastern Homs but still posting one ATGM strike in northern Hama as the line is about the same. Rebel counter attack was repelled last night. Since then both sides are shelling each other plus airstrikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5IX4Pv__7k
Northern Hama TOW , fuel tanker target. I would be sweating balls if my job was to drive a fuel truck thru TOW alley, that's just me.

On to the biggest advance where the SAA took back Shaer gas field after IS control for over a year. Finally it seems the SAA is able to conduct multiple offensives and take back a long held IS trophy.

Lastly increased fighting between the YPG and TSK around Darbasiyah as Turkey escalates strikes on YPG/PKK targets.
Pic is a YPG ATGM about to hit a Turkish army tank
>YPG ATGMs MATTER

>>33769490
It may be a bit hyperbolic, but Turkey started firing much more artillery all over the border today. This is on top of the airstrikes. They also reportedly told the US to move 30 km away from the border. How the US responds or doesn't respond will be pretty important on what happens to the Kurds at the very least.

>>33769961
ATGM vs ATGM action with a TOW strike on a SAA ATGM position in the small village the rebels tried to overrun last night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iudwlF8jwno

kurds and turks starting to go apeshit at each other and this general is still in coma? Get it together

SAA trying to push into the FSA gains against ISIS east of Aleppo in the desert

>>33770193
Latest CENTCOM tweet saying allied forces were bombed. I mean it is serious but I don't have much else. Personally I have always talked about these forces coming to blows since Turkey invaded to defeat "dash"

https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/857276525330255873

>>33770300
peshmerga in iraq too? geez

>>33770193
then contribute you parasitic puke

This is different. Ten Iranian border guards have been killed real close to the Pakistani border. My source quotes Fars, who claim the guards were attacked by 'terrorists'.

I can't even begin to guess.

Also, Turkish forces have clashed with kurdish ones today in northeastern Syria today. But I may not have been the first to forward that.

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apparently you can't stay fit while fighting a war

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dead YPG? not sure
but dem hips and tummy though

>>33770983
Both Pakistan and Iran have been loosing men in Baluchistan for years now. There are strong indications that those groups get support from Israel. So its nothing new.

>>33771432

Could be YPJ. YPG is men only. Although I can't say it for certain any more. Things are getting fluid.

>>33771491

Or, it could be just a civilian that got caught up in the war. Damn shame either way.

>>33771491
>>33771655
i seriously considered fapping to that picture since those hips and stomach made me a bit horny (and now i even noticed those pink panties)
but i don't know man... that's a bit too much even for me, i can find other pics to fap to i'm sure

Turkey and Gulf states will shut down American airbases soon, US loses its grip in the middle east.

>>33771712

Where are these airbases anyway that the US still uses? Jordan and Israel?

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Today Saudis have had a deal with Russians... Saudi FM visited Moscow

>>33771712
Kuwait and UAE

US doesn't use Israeli bases for offensive missions.

Jordan has always been a good lap dog for the anglos but now they are blocked by Russia in the north.

>>33771712

Why would they do that? Certainly not the Gulf states. US support is literally an existential matter for those kings and despots.

Busy day in Turkey. They have suspended 9000 police for having connections with Gular.

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Finals season has ended and I feel a bit lost when it comes to catching up on what has happened in the middle east.

Can someone give me a really brief TLDR? Or more importantly, can someone explain to me why the SDF managed to acquire TFSA territory in north Aleppo?

>>33773104
why when and how****

>>33773104
good to see you back

>>33772389
do you think he does international shipping?

>>33771655
All those civilians on the front line. Just like that kid isis killed at Palmyra silos.

>>33773253
Thanks, things have been busy with finals and setting up a Model NATO club at my uni. But now that it's summer I'll try to get back into researching.

Do any of the atgm systems in circulation in syria have the capability to be used at night? I've only ever seen videos of daytime strikes.

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>>33774632
some do. It all depends on the optics package that they got. TOW 2's with the ITAS opitc set have night vision capabilities, same for the Konkurs, which has a night vision "click on" optics, same as the MILAN. Just about every kind of missile that was produced in the 90s onwards has some kind of night vision. The thing is that all these come with the ability to add night vision equipment to the regular optics.

That being said, usage of ATGM's at night has been uncommon and irregular. Many of the ATGM's in Syria have been seen without the night vision equipment. It might be that they're saving the few add ons for emergency, or simply that they simply do not have them for one reason or another.

I haven't seen any TOW's in Syria have the top optical add-on that is used for night vision. Pic related will show the TOW-2 with its full optical package. The regular optics serve are beneath the thermal/night vision optics which rest on top of it (pic related)

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>>33775721
now compare the optics in the info-graph to that of the TOW that the syrian fighter is using. You'll notice that the thermal/night optics package is missing. I have found rare cases of some Syrian TOWs having the night optics package, but they're more the exception rather than the norm. As already stated, it is most likely that they were not given any night optics or the few they have are not used frequently (same applies for other missiles i've mentioned).

So in brief; they do have night optics in some of the missiles, but they are a rarity. The norm i've seen is that most ATGM's are used in broad daylight.

>>33771245
>apparently you can't stay fit while fighting a war
They must have to eat all the food aid from charitables for starving kids before they are killed.

>>33771779
>Deal
The talks between the Russians and the Saudis always like a conversation between the blind and the deaf

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Israeli's just nuked Damascus International Airport kek

Also, what goes on here?

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>>33777426
It's been reported that they struck Hezbollah arms depots in the airport. Israel hadn't commented on the bombing, but apparently five targets were hit. No word on casualties yet.

Israel has always been antsy about weapons transfers to hez, so this airstrike doesn't come as a surprise. Though what'll be interested is to know the exact reason why they struck (I.e. they were shipping high tech rocket arty or something similar).

Pic is apparently from rebel positions that were able to see the explosions

>>33768566
Where is "here"

There wasn't even a story on Fox until the Pope started crying

>>33773104
Subhuman arabs with air support and tanks are still worse than LARPing commies

People avoid the obvious explanations out of political correctness.

>>33777426
Future hospital bakery school

>>33767260
>muh imaginary oil pipelines
fuck off, idiot.

>>33773104
>more importantly, can someone explain to me why the SDF managed to acquire TFSA territory in north Aleppo?

They didn't. They were not prepared to deal with Turkish force until the SAA, Russians and Americans offered to set up buffers to stem the TFSA tide from around Al-Bab and Jarabulus. Since then the only force looking to take territory there is the TFSA trying to chip into SDF ground around Manbij.

>>33769961
>On to the biggest advance where the SAA took back Shaer gas field after IS control for over a year. Finally it seems the SAA is able to conduct multiple offensives and take back a long held IS trophy.

Jesus fuck, they did it. They took years to do it, but they did it. Holding it would be another matter though. That said, once they widen the salient they should link up to Ithriya to the north to surround the IS pocket to the west. I doubt they can pull it off effortlessly, but it's a logic step ahead.

Their willful support for the "moderates" and headchoppers is a given but have the roaches ever did anything worth a damn to deal with ISIL? It's like everything they do indirectly emboldens ISIL.

Even when ISIL was fighting at Kobane, they just stationed tanks at the border and watched while OIR fighter planes provided actual help for the Kurds.

>>33777426
How many times has Israel bombed that airport?

You'd think by now the weapons shipments might go somewhere else

>>33775789
is there a point giving them night/thermals on ATGMs if the rest of their forces typically lack night fighting capability?

Hospital bombed in Idlib today. 19 dead so far, according to SOHR.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/patriot-missile-intercepts-drone-over-golan-heights/

New from YPG. A kid Turks killed yesterday wasn't a solider, he was just wearing a YPG uniform for a gathering. Just more proof of Turks killing kids.

https://twitter.com/EzidiPress/status/857618619169210369

>>33779621
They were offering to kick ISIS out of N. Syria and build a safe zone since 2014. US refused to provide air support.

>>33781057

I can think of lots of reasons to dislike Erdogan's guys. But if you are in a plane and you see someone in uniform you are kind of excused for thinking it is a soldier.

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>>33779583
Yes it's a good victory for them. I can even see the SAA going toward Arak or at least it's possible. IS being hit from all sides in eastern Homs.

Daily TOW strikes. All attacks repelled by the SAA in northern Hama. Rebel ATGMs have taken a toll on the SAA or the SAA is paying the TOW (heh). Stalemate in northern Hama. Heavy Ruaf airstrikes continue.

First a BMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOzjW6WHEfI

Second is claimed ATGM seen from the SAA side on a technical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pny07Cpl2jU

3rd is tank that just came out from today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE3lLgdt0g0

Whatever happened to the captured t90 that was roaming around for ages, did they bomb it finally?

>>33781148
Holy shit kill yourself, they shouldn't be bombing them in the first place

>>33781465

For sure, but I was not commenting on the legality of Turkey operating in Syria was I. Only on the fact that it's hard enough to tell kids from adults from a plane, if they aren't both wearings uniforms as well.

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>>33781332
HTS pulled a lot of their assets out of the front line of Hama including their T-90 apparently. HTS has slowly started to re appear recently in the failed Massasnah village attacks.

Last TOW strike I am posting today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D92aqt3GwM
BMP target

Grumblings of YPG/TSK border fighting and JAI started a new offensive in eastern Ghouta. Lastly more SDF advances in Tabqah city.

>>33779583
IS only had the gas fields for little more than about a year at most though. It's still comparatively slow for the SAA to take back that position though, I'll say that.

>>33781076
The Turks had their chance in 2012-2014 when IS was still in the process of growing. The boat sailed as soon as IS started to threaten the West and the US led the fight.

>>33771705
go to life of debaucery
search happytobehere16
all the naked dead chicks you could want
happy fapping

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>>33768768
>>33768771

Butthurt Kebab detected. REMOVE.

HPG≠PKK

>>33781544
The editing they put into these videos is impressive

>>33782541
This has to be bait but still.

HPG is the military wing of PKK. Like US army is military wing of US government.

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Yo, are the Turks straight up preparing to invade Northern Syria (for real this time)?

They are removing sections of the walls and everything

>>33771779
>not knowing how much the Saudis fucking hate the Russians cuz >muh mujahideen
>Not knowing how much the Russians hate the Saudis for spreading Wahhabi Islam to Russia

leave the thread, idiot

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I hear things are cooking off all long the Turk-YPG border areas. If so, why would Turkey be attacking YPG now instead of waiting for them to finish off ISIS? Or is YPG to blame for the escalation?

>>33783237
>>33783657
Hopefully there will be happenings instead of posturing like the other times, now that Eroman has strengthened his power we need a war to make sure he stays on for life.

>>33783657
Kurds overplayed their hand. PKK has stepped up its attacks. Explosives and bombers came from Syria. All the while Syrian Kurds thought that US would force Turkey take it. Now it seems Turks are calling the bluff.

>>33771779
Since when has Richard Hammond represented saudis??

>>33783657
Also western love for YPG and looking the other way with YPG not PKK has pushed a lot of nationalist Turks towards Erdogan. MHP is dead and now even CHP is going to have to back Erdogan.

I know quite a few Turks from my uni days, both die hard Ataturk/ Erdogan sultan crowed and they are all pissed. Probably saw 50 fb posts about this >>33768768

They all want Erdogan to move in on YPG, PKK and what ever other name they use. If its Apoist they want it dead.

>>33783693
I think it will just be exchanges of fire and no significant push by either side. For awhile anyway...

I am curious. How much PKK/HPG action has there been on the Turkish side of the border the last few years anyway? I can barely recall any events this side of the whole ISIS brouhaha.

>>33783657
>why would Turkey be attacking YPG now instead of waiting for them to finish off ISIS?
If anyone finishes off IS then how can Turkey go "lol guys look, we're helping against IS" whilst initiating full blitzkreig on the Kurds? It's the same line they keep using, it's bullshit and everyone knows it, but it still provides a veneer to allow the rest of the world to pretend they don't know what's really going on.

>>33783982
The ceasefire that had more or less been holding was ditched and they went back to bombing and shooting one another heartily again, most media ignored it harder than everything else in the area of course, because 'muh valuable allies'.

Not going to make a habit of quoting Foxnews, but this article peeks into how the US forces handle the ISIS gear they get hold of. Most of it is in the Captain Obvious area but it's worth the read.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/27/isis-weapons-being-captured-by-canadian-woman-working-to-disarm-terrorists.html

>>33783837
The Turks are not helping either by leveling entire Kurd-majority towns to catch a few snakes. They keep forgetting that Kurds make up a good chunk of southerneastern Turkey, and collective punishment is simply going to rile up the nest even more, whether or not the PKK is wrong to stir shit.

If the Turks are going to use force, nothing short of a genocide on the Kurds would make a difference, but then they would have opened another can of worms. Coincidentally it would be a century since the Armenian Genocide.

>>33780411

>Hospital bombed

Was it the last working one in the city?

>>33781179
>3rd is tank that just came out from today.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE3lLgdt0g0 [Embed]

At first I was like "Kontakt did it's job"... nope.

>>33786932
>>33781179
Do you think the syrians have discovered wet storage? Or is there another reason for such a delayed burnout?

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>>33783693
turkroach kebab detected. REMOVE

>>33785879
Yep just about this. Also this song just about sums it up well.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPLxVeLkpY

>>33788672
Erdo is the most interesting thing to happen to Turkey since cyprus, I also have a soft boner for the ottoman empire and definitely wouldn't mind them starting a war and being kicked out of NATO. I demand entertainment!

>>33786737

No idea. I quoted the entire newslet.

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russian muslims (former airborne soldiers) join the battle against assad and russian mafia, in syria

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=ADw8ShONQGA

>>33790225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADw8ShONQGA

>>33790229

Ow. Russians fighting russians is one thing. Russians packing Stey AUG's are something else.

>>33790377
Nothing out of the ordinary. When you choose to fight for your "Muslim brethen" your nationality stops mattering and you start using anything available to you, even NATO hardware dumped to "moderate rebels".

>>33790426

Yeah well. About that. Those guys seemed very well equipped with gear for being rebels. Who have they been actually fighting so far?

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>>33790377
>>33790426
WTF how do you not know steyer where sold to tunesia? quit /k/ and never come back
Tunisia AUG was chosen since 1978 to be the Primary weapon of the Tunisian Army, The first regular unit to be issued with the AUG A1 was the GTS, later on, the leadership started to arming the National Guard with Sturmgewehr 58 (FN FAL) and the Army with the AUG A1/A2/A3 variants, including the Army's Special Forces.

>Turkey: Maroon Berets and Police Special Operations Department.

>>33790594
>Those guys seemed very well equipped with gear for being rebels.
under which rock do you live?

>>33790599

You forgot Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Oman. Anyway it was more puzzling that a Russian would use a 5.56x45 weapon while the others in the unit - that I could see anyway - were using AKs. Or maybe they get their ammo flown in as needed by the USAF?

>>33790604

You see a lot of other rebels in the area run around with helmets?

>>33790677
Its the same old story of rich immigrants pushing up prices for regular locals.

>>33790229
>Grenade goes of
>"Working!"

heh

>>33790692
HTS, ISIS both widely used helmets and still do

>>33790677
>You forgot Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Oman.
do you even know where syria is?

>>33790725
>heh
I wondered the same. but mkay. as long it does the trick mkaaaay lets say: bratwurst!

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hey gunnuts. you love guns. but when you see what guns do, you run away?!

people like me love guns and what guns do. why is this thread not on page 1?

The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) is investigating 45 claims of chemical weapons being used in attacks in Syria between the middle of 2016 and today.

With 192 member states, the OPCW is no obscure group. They got the Nobel peace prize in 2013, although I have to say as a Norwegian that the then prize leader is a major asshat. They got trouble with USA when they wanted to do investigations of wmds in Iraq when the US wanted their war. My issue with them butting in this time is that their leader is Ahmet Üzümcü - a Turkish career diplomat. Which makes the OPCW's activities in Syria more than a little questionable, and I don't know if they deserve that.

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>>33790594
The HTS' Quwwat al Nukhba and ISIS' "special forces" were equipped with similarly operator-like gear presumably acquired through the black market, looting or "aid" from the West, although the real quality of their gear can be questionable and tends to be used more for propaganda ops.

>>33790599
Read again. I never said all their equipment were exclusively acquired through Syria's rebel factions. It's not impossible for a handful of would-be jihadists to simply bring in weapons from countries with NATO weaponry if border control is lax.

>>33791677
>"aid" from the West

And allies of the West like the Gulf states and Turkey, in addition to Iran.

The usual daily TOW strikes from the same front in northern Hama.

Target :ATGM set up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbB7iqBEwQ0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmq5JZ3SkFA
Target: group of soldiers and another example of stupidity. Let's just silhouette ourselves in a meeting after tens of ATGM strikes.

After this the biggest news of the day is JAI attacking and killing many Faylaq Rahman rebels during the middle of a large SAA attack on Qabon. This has to be especially sweet for SAA supporters after a joint rebel offensive in Jobar a little while ago had killed quite a few 4th division SAA. JAI is a bigger force while Al Rahman has better fighters. Eastern Ghouta has never looked this close to breaking.

>>33791984
>Hey Achmed, how about we move 50m down behind that building.
>No its better we stand at the top of the hill 20m away from the last rebel ATGM hit

>>33791984
This fucking loonie toons war, i swear

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Russian Tigr-M was hit
Crew survived

Fighting between 'various rebel groups' near Damascus. More than 40 dead. According to SOHR.

>>33793975
How many of these have the Russians lost so far?

Dead weekend bump

>>33793975

Hit by what?

The daraa 'offensive' seems to have died down. Now with the infighting in ghouta and recent advances in north hama and around palmyra, it seems things are looking up for the saa.
I wonder how long the rebels can keep up this atgm spam.

>>33794196
Nobody knows because the Russians wont release casualtie figures, which usually indicates more than they'd like to admit.

>>33779814
A lot.

Assad/Iranians really have nowhere else that's secure to bring in heavy supplies. The Russians restrict the airspace and cooperate with Israel on what it can and can't bomb. They let Israel do this.

>>33795998
Krokodil

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>skirts getting caught on tights?

Word is the US is moving forces to act as observers in the border regions between Turkey and the YPG.

>>33756628

Trump is equipping them and they have MARSOC and US SF support.

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Any news about ISIS assault on the Aleppo highway near Khanasir ?

Both sides claim to have killed 30 enemies til now...
ISIS claims they captured positions, the SAA claims to have repelled the offensive.

i really wonder IF the SAA finaly got its shit together and was able to repell an attack.

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taliban spring awakening

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>>33800487

>>33800280
whats going on with them? love? cuckish.. das boots!

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>>33800487
talibs now with ATV's

>>33800487
so what's the final bodycount of the attack on the barracks? I read somewhere it was 203 dead or something, insane

>>33799926
>>33799911
Hope they don't shoot themselves.

Can't believe the fucking rangers had a friendly fire incident.

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classy rebel operator, damascus 2017

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Coastals remove assadists with AGS
https://youtu.be/dDUQvOgGbaU

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Is pic related going to be ISIS' last victory?

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>>33801147
> implying Issam would let Deir fall.

Discarded

>>33801099
I haven't seen an AGS in action til now, russian capture?

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what's this? rpg-26?

>>33800867
Nah that's bullshit.

http://taskandpurpose.com/rangers-reject-pentagon-friendly-fire-afghanistan/

>>33800063
>i really wonder IF the SAA finaly got its shit together and was able to repell an attack.
Almost certainly not. Its not SAA protecting the road, its NDF. Those guys run when they see their own shadows; however as soon as the SAA combat forces come from both north and south all ISIS gains will be reversed.

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>>33801215
he'll personally shoot every last ISIS shit should it become necessary

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>>33801537
GRAPHIC: Corpses of Daeshbags filled the battlefield after they were repelled by #SAA


from today

>>33802015

Couple of ten year olds at the end?

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https://media.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Bombs-land-on-Kafr-Zita.mp4?_=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJNGboMwXfk

>>33802069
could be
ISIS has been using more child soldier lately

Another 4000 officials fired in Turkey for being pro-Gulen. 1000 of those were in the army, 1000 in the department of justice. With today's firings, more than 100.000 have been fired or suspended since the 'coup attempt'.

>>33802178

Entirely possible. Another theory is that this was a civilian populated area. If so, it's hard to say who was IS and who was living there at the wrong moment. But I guess the picture was originally followed by some text that said more.

>>33802015
because of angle probly

Taliban bigwig Maulvi Mohammad Daud was shot and killed in Peshawar, Pakistan last thursday. ISIS have claimed they were behind the assassination.

Another US servicemen died outside of Mosul today. Is ISIS actively trying to pick US troops or does this shit just happen by chance?

Where did the tunnel bombings go? 1-2 years ago there were some spectacular tunnel bomb videos. Did both sides figure out how to counter them somehow?

>>33802521
i remember seeing some footage of some frontline in east ghouta that had been stable for years, the SAA dug 5+m deep trenches there to prevent tunneling. I assume similar measures are taken at all stable frontlines when ressources are available.

In addition to that it's really hard to dig tunnels.

>>33802503

probly not , they are operating on the very frontline ,anything can happen there ,this is totally normal

>>33802521
Well, with the city of Aleppo taken, there's not many more urban centers with as many financial, human and military resources.
Tunnel bombs were arduous, expensive and time-consuming that required a good deal of expertise to pull off
Either the experts died, the resources arent there, and/or there isnt the practical need for them

This one sounds bad. Eight White Helmets have been killed during an air attack at a White Helmets center in Hama. No info on who conducted the attacks.

>>33783754
Top kek lmfao thank you for this post.

>>33790725

"Working" in the way that Russian used it means "open fire"

If you watch any of the Ukraine conflict videos, you'll hear it a lot... especially the video of them shooting the howitzer at the Donetsk airport tower.

>>33791984

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmq5JZ3SkFA

> H..h-how could this have h-happened?

SOHR claims that 'a US-supported rebel alliance' is making progress in Tabqa.

I wonder if Luke Skywalker is involved?

>>33808366

US supplies rebels/jihadists with tons of TOWs
its effective , pretty cheap and easy to supply ,also very effective in countering syrian government which uses a lot of armor

since they have a low of TOWs ,they often use it on soldiers/soldier gatherings which ais inefffective but can score few kills if gathering is really large

>>33806952
Who are these fine gentleman ?

>>33811472
russian SOF on their way to Afrin I believe (yesterday or day before yesterday)

A little bit of nice news from Iraq. 36 yazidis, men women and children, have been liberated from ISIS after 3 years captivity. No info on where, when, or what forces freed them.

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>>33806952
>vodka bottle in chestrig
classic

>>33812862
I recall reading there's some ruskie flare or grenade that looks very similiar to a bottle top like that, so it's not necesarilly vodka. Another thing is it looks a rather small bottle to last long in the hands of a Russian, better to fill the smoke/chaff launchers on the vehicle behind with larger bottles if you're going to go that way.

Hehehe. US forces have been patrolling Syrian towns near the Turk border this weekend, the vehicle columns flaunting US flags - side by side with YPG flags. In an interview, Erdogan is pissed off by this to no end and is 'saddened' by the sight..

>>33813070
Slightly disappointment that the Turks can't deal with the bullshit PKK has been pulling, but that's nothing compared to the fact that Erdogan has been consolidating too much power, rallying braindead nationalists to prop him up, adopting collective punishment, and ordering strikes across the border like he owns the place. That puff face Sultan needs a couple of good dick slaps in the head from both the Americans and Russians.

>>33812862
>vodka bottle in chestrig
Nigger, you blind.

>>33813237

Nothing lasts. His time will end eventually, one way or another. Dictators seem to live to old age in our day and age though. But I really do wonder what will come after him. The kurds are predictable to some degree, but how big the the Gulen thing in reality? Beside a frothing-at-the-mouth president, what's holding the country together?

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Guy from /k/ near the Taqba frontlines.

>>33814115
Woah so this is the power of memes..

>>33814115

....and so a hero is born.

Unexpectedly well informed Foxnews article.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/30/turkey-threatens-further-strikes-on-us-allied-syrian-kurds.html

>>33816078

Duh. I should have noticed before I posted it. It's an Associated Press article. No wonder it is decent.

>>33774508
>now that it's summer
uhhhh

>>33814488
Maybe they're trying to avoid direct confrontation now that they're losing land? Certainly odd since Israel has been treating wounded SDF/FSA for a while now.

>>33814115
>>33813856
Just for reference.

>>33813323
That's the issue. Erdogan spent a good decade or so snuffing out political opposition and buying influence to the point that it's hard to rally the majority to move away from the neo-Ottoman posturing he built up. You's might see some form of continuity post-Erdogan, although it's doubtful if successor has the level of influence Erdogan command.

And if he runs the country long enough, we may see a major political vacuum in Turkey if he is forcefully disposed or dies.

>>33816512
Also, the SDF is really barreling through Tabqa now.

Yeah, about Tabca. WHat happens next time Erdo wants to spray some rockets around the territory, and manages to fry a few US butts beside the SDF ones? Oooh me bad?

>>33816890
I would actually love to see that happen just to gauge how Trump would react.

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>Mostly Russian unit in East Homs
https://twitter.com/delfoo/status/858815890971926531

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>wouldnt mind ypging that ypj

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protests against Jaysh al-Islam today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDKC-Sw8Xnw

>>33819105
so rather than repaint a lot of vehicles they just mud them the fuck up?

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>>33814488
"Blacked out in Israeli media". Again with the agenda derived misinformation- the quote was discussed and posted in all major and small media outlets, with high ranking ex-military commentators arguing weather he meant that IS were sorry because they got bombed hard as response or because he IDF maintains a "don't fuck with us and we won't fuck you up" type of agreement with the various organizations it's likely to come into contact with. Even the "Israel actively collaborates with IS" claim was discussed in some places, but unanimously deemed a "wishful thinking by anti-Israeli conspiracy theorists".
Any how, regarding the airport bombing, looks like Israel returns to the "opaqueness" Policy by making no comments.

Ok, clearly Captain Obvious have come to town but this is bigger than it sounds. Hamas has removed the 'work for the destruction of the Israeli state' in all their new official paperwork. While it is a goal as realistic as ending capitalism, it has been a cornerstone of their political views. This is according to Reuters.

It's going to be a hard blow to the Hamas hardliners, but also slightly inconvenient to Israeli hardliners who loves shit like that for keeping the walls higher and the sanctions deeper. I wonder why it comes right now. Has some hardliner boss died in his chair and made room for a more practical leader? Has Israel made some nice promise in exchange for a situation with more possibilities for negotiation, or was Hamas the one making the promise? Or are Hamas simply building a thicker wall between themselves and ISIS who have been making progress taking over Hamas territory in the Palestinian refugee camps?

>>33816098
Care to explain?

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>>33813070
Here are Russians on the Afrin side. The YPG has both the US and Russian armed forces backing them. Who is going to fuck with them other than IS? Not Turkey.

I can't recall in recent history any non state/rebel group securing the backing of both the US and Russia in any conflict. I'm impressed.
Other than that after skipping the weekend IS is about to lose Taqba. Report of them negotiating a surrender.

>>33823107
nevermind, just realized. I should have phrased it properly; im out for summer break from uni

>>33823515

Great pic. Let see, russians with red berets... is this that 'military police' force there was talk about?

Imagine for a moment that the YPG could keep their shit so well together that they actually came up with a peace plan for after the warfare. They'd be the best internationally supported national rebuilding organization since world war 2. But much as I have been impressed by the kurd forces, I can't recall them ponying up much in the way of infrastructure building.

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Men in the village in the northwest of South Africa suffer from the attacks of a large baboon homosexual.

As the sources of the South African edition of «Morning Post», monkey first deals with men petting, lapaya them in indecent places, and then forced to have sex.

Baboon attacks exclusively on men. Only last week six people fell into the hands baboon gay. On their terrified victims of a huge monkey attack from the tree and then applies them to sexual violence, and ending, he flees into the jungle.

Gay baboon terrorizes the inhabitants of African villages, raping men

>>33823950
Sometimes I wonder if Mandic really has brain damage.

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>>33824180

>slow news day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ7_3fc-dcs

>>33823515
New report from Taqbah city. Negotiations broke down after a group of IS refused to withdraw while others were willing to go. IS last stand coming. I'll roll back in next time.

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>>33823573
>I can't recall them ponying up much in the way of infrastructure building.
https://twitter.com/ThomasOz_/status/853691279426957312

see pic related for an example of the progress in infrastructure in Kobani too (might not look impressive but look at some pics from the battle of Kobani and compare). Rojava is doing very well with what they have considering they're blockaded from Iraq and Turkey

>>33825959

Looks good. Infrastructure rebuilding is one of those things we don't normally get to hear much about. Except in one case: Journalists kept telling that one of the reasons ISIS managed to get in with local tribes and so on, was that the first thing they'd do on arrival was to get water and electricity going again - stuff that previous local govt had given less priority.

As for the whole kurd thing I am not sure how it works out these days, in Syria anyway. The YPG and the SDF takes territory, but who takes charge of work and local govt afterwards; those two military entities, or the political parties behind them?

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>Choking the turkey